TrueNigerian300:


At the bolded, rich Nigerians and rich people across the globe do not have problem migrating to anywhere they choose to it is only poor people and Nigerians included that struggle and even kill themselves to migrate to anywhere in the world. With less than 2m dollar you can become an american citizen with easy but many Nigerians pass through shit to get this because they are poor. Madam no place like home and no matter how reach you are you will always be a second class citizen in a whiteman's land. It is easier for you to make name for yourself back home if you are rich. The same Otedola you are talking about who give a Bleep about him in abroad, who knows him?? What about his daughter why can't she stay abroad and build her career there? She is home and doing well to the best of her ability in naija but in abroad who give a Bleep about her

Go and check only poor Nigerians go to school abroad and never return home because of fear of poverty. Dangote's daughter all manage their father's business here, mike daughter's as well, Tinubu's son and lot of others. Mind you Seyi Tinubu did all his education abroad and has the opportunity to live there even large enough than most british but he chose to return to Nigeria. He is the CEO of his own company imagine he lives in the UK where he has to struggle to get contract because of his skin colour. Nobody will give a f**k about him there but here in Nigeria he is a boss that controls hundreds of people. The sh**t most Nigerians pass through abroad is all because they are poor and never want to return home because of poverty if you are a rich person with dignity and know your what you will never want to take those sh**t hence many of the rich Nigerians will prefer Nigeria only to go abroad for holidays.

If you have experienced what it means to live large in Nigeria or you have live closed to people who do so you will know that your abroad is trash and that is the bitter truth. How many Nigerians are head of big corporation abroad?? How many Nigerians are what 5m dollars abroad
From my interaction with people here in abroad I have come to realise that whenever i tell people that Nigeria is better when you have money the only people that disagree mostly are people who back in Nigeria the only thing they know is poverty and I cant blame them for it. It is a very bad experience to be poor in Nigeria and Nigeria is hell fire if you poor.

The guy said he is looking for more money and here you are sweet mouthing abroad for him. How many Nigerian earn above 50k dollars per annum, how many earn 100k dollars p.a in your so called abroad. The funny thing about most you is you encourage Nigerians to come abroad and when they get there to even offer help as small as it could be becomes problem. Some will even switch off their phone so the person cant reach out to them. Some are ashame because of the mess they live in after all the I live abroad gra gra.

At OP I wish you well in your decision life is all about risk the bigger the risk the bigger your success and the worst your failure also. If you allow people who live in cubicles abroad and the only things they know back home is poverty decide your future. If allow people who work in factories, people who are educated but are doing unskilled jobs make decision for you. If you allow people who have no value in their place of work as compare to you that is well respected in your place of work decide for you. If you allow someone that is sharing an apartment or who has 2 bedroom flats with 3 kids decide for you.If you allow people who wish they had the kind of job you have right now to decide for you. It is your life and i wish you well that is all I can say.

Lol. All this rant for on top another person's money? How much do you have yourself? See as you dey mention people name as if dem be your papa.

TrueNigerian300:


At the bolded, rich Nigerians and rich people across the globe do not have problem migrating to anywhere they choose to it is only poor people and Nigerians included that struggle and even kill themselves to migrate to anywhere in the world. With less than 2m dollar you can become an american citizen with easy but many Nigerians pass through shit to get this because they are poor. Madam no place like home and no matter how reach you are you will always be a second class citizen in a whiteman's land. It is easier for you to make name for yourself back home if you are rich. The same Otedola you are talking about who give a Bleep about him in abroad, who knows him?? What about his daughter why can't she stay abroad and build her career there? She is home and doing well to the best of her ability in naija but in abroad who give a Bleep about her

Go and check only poor Nigerians go to school abroad and never return home because of fear of poverty. Dangote's daughter all manage their father's business here, mike daughter's as well, Tinubu's son and lot of others. Mind you Seyi Tinubu did all his education abroad and has the opportunity to live there even large enough than most british but he chose to return to Nigeria. He is the CEO of his own company imagine he lives in the UK where he has to struggle to get contract because of his skin colour. Nobody will give a f**k about him there but here in Nigeria he is a boss that controls hundreds of people. The sh**t most Nigerians pass through abroad is all because they are poor and never want to return home because of poverty if you are a rich person with dignity and know your what you will never want to take those sh**t hence many of the rich Nigerians will prefer Nigeria only to go abroad for holidays.

If you have experienced what it means to live large in Nigeria or you have live closed to people who do so you will know that your abroad is trash and that is the bitter truth. How many Nigerians are head of big corporation abroad?? How many Nigerians are what 5m dollars abroad
From my interaction with people here in abroad I have come to realise that whenever i tell people that Nigeria is better when you have money the only people that disagree mostly are people who back in Nigeria the only thing they know is poverty and I cant blame them for it. It is a very bad experience to be poor in Nigeria and Nigeria is hell fire if you poor.

The guy said he is looking for more money and here you are sweet mouthing abroad for him. How many Nigerian earn above 50k dollars per annum, how many earn 100k dollars p.a in your so called abroad. The funny part about most you is you encourage Nigerians to come abroad and when they get there to even offer help as small as it could be becomes problem. Some will even switch off their phone so the person cant reach out to them. Some are ashame because of the mess they live in after all the I live abroad gra gra.

At OP I wish you well in your decision life is all about risk the bigger the risk the bigger your success and the worst your failure also. If you allow people who live in cubicles abroad and the only things they know back home is poverty decide your future. If allow people who work in factories, people who are educated but are doing unskilled jobs make decision for you. If you allow people who have no value in their place of work as compare to you that is well respected in your place of work decide for you. If you allow someone that is sharing an apartment or who has 2 bedroom flats with 3 kids decide for you.If you allow people who wish they had the kind of job you have right now to decide for you. It is your life and i wish well that is all I can say.

LOL... seems your circle is made up of struggling immigrants who live in council houses and claim benefits therefore please always put a disclaimer on your write-ups to let people know you are speaking based on your limited experience with the kind of unambitious friends you keep abroad.

Please realise that you and your kind are in the minority.. Forward thinking, well educated Nigerians I know here in the UK have left toxic communities such as Peckham, Woolwich etc.. moved to other parts of the country and are doing exceptionally well in thriving careers.

There's no excuse for those who choose to rot in poverty abroad when there are numerous opportunities available to you (of course with the exception of those who haven't attained papers).

Kenn55:


Lol. All this rant for on top another person's money? How much do you have yourself? See as you dey mention people name as if dem be your papa.

Haha. Only those with poverty mentality talk like that.

sexylassie2:


Not true, people with high income are always given visa and it is not only Europe or america, you can travel to for holiday, south africa, cape town, you will have a good holiday.

Always? LOL. Don't make blanket generalisations ma'am.

sweetmelanin:



LOL... seems your circle is made up of struggling immigrants who live in council houses and claim benefits therefore please always put a disclaimer on your write-ups to let people know you are speaking based on your limited experience with the kind of unambitious friends you keep abroad.

Please realise that you and your kind are in the minority.. Forward thinking, well educated Nigerians I know here in the UK have left toxic communities such as Peckham, Woolwich etc.. moved to other parts of the country and are doing exceptionally well in thriving careers.

There's no excuse for those who choose to rot in poverty abroad when there are numerous opportunities available to you (of course with the exception of those who haven't attained papers).

It is not about circle of struggling immigrant it is about reality I have people doing well for themselves and i dont think i know anybody that is living on government support as far as I can tell. Read my post well and dont be emotional about it. Just so you know I work in one of the 3 largest tech companies in the world. So I have seen Nigerians living large here and i have seen people struggling as well.
With available data that over 40% of americans cant cover $400 emergency expense in your delusion those americans are all lazy. The guy we are talking about here is not a struggling guy he is living better than most Nigerians abroad.

At the bolded why are you deceiving yourself Let start from salary what is the average in your so called UK? How much money do you make with all your mouth?? Can you show the guy if not us your salary and your apartment to tell him how large you live in the UK. How many of you in the UK earn 50,000 pounds p.a You can argue all you want this guy lives a better life than most Nigerians in the UK. Your type are people who the only thing they know back home in Nigeria is poverty you can dispute my claim with your payslip back home in Nigeria. . You are advising someone that lives as a freeborn in Nigeria and in a nice apartment to come and join you in your cubicle in the UK. SMH!!! My friends are all doing well trash you are talking about how many make 50k pounds p.a How many Nigerians do you know and have you met in the UK with all your noise?

You guys will never tell Nigerians all the shit you passed through and are passing through everyday you only sweetmouth for them in your illusion of living abroad.

Kenn55:


Lol. All this rant for on top another person's money? How much do you have yourself? See as you dey mention people name as if dem be your papa.

Will you keep quiet in your cubicles there
Most of you are deluded and can't comprehend simple thing the guy in question said he wants money he didnt mention sanity or good health care. And the next thing you all preach to tell him is to move abroad. Even the not too wise Nigerians i have met all agreed that making money in Nigeria is easier than in developed countries. I dont care about anybody's wealth i only buttressed my point by mentioning their name to a deluded fellow like you. And she started with the name first.

TrueNigerian300:


Just so you know I work in one of the 3 largest tech companies in the world. So I have seen Nigerians living large here

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Erm, this is highly unlikely and most probably a lie - especially with the way you rant so aggressively about poverty and money

Keep talking about "cubicles" there.. LOL. won't be surprised if you live in one.

sweetmelanin:


Erm, this is highly unlikely and most probably a lie - especially with the way you rant so aggressively about poverty and money

I have nothing to prove to you it is not my problem for whatever you choose to believe ;
Your problem is that you lived a very poor life before you left Nigeria and that is why you are so obsessed with your UK. You think your UK is paradise!!!

Gshun:
Ask me why u shd do this? For your unborn child. U can start the process and secure the move then relocate when u are ready. Believe me i knw people who earn far more and are ready to buy their way out of this shit hole. Your kids would be forever grateful

When people say they have to leave this country for the sake of their unborn children i just laugh.

Whose children are those shouting black lives matters all around USA?

Or whose children are those that get killed everyday because they are black

I guess the parent of damilola taylor will be glad they took him to london afterall

Pls use your head and stop saying trash

boyo123:

When people say they have to leave this country for the sake of their unborn children i just laugh.

Whose children are those shouting black lives matters all around USA?

Or whose children are those that get killed everyday because they are black

I guess the parent of damilola taylor will be glad they took him to london afterall

Pls use your head and stop saying trash

Very wise observation I laugh at them too honestly. You can give your kids better future if you are rich in Nigeria and all you need to do is to send them to good schools abroad. Some rich family send their kids to school abroad from primary to university and they come to back to Nigeria to be directors and managers. Who will make your black kid director in a company abroad immediately after graduation?? Even black americans still struggle to get to the top of the corporate lader. All i see with all those kinds of people is low self esteem they believe so much in the whiteman's country that they hate themselves and their country. Fine, Nigeria is hell fire if you are poor every wise person knows this but that does not mean people are not living good life in Nigeria as opposed to what our abroad advocate wants us to believe.

The OP already has a wrong mindset about moving. It's hard to give an advice based on his reason i.e. to make more money. What will now happen if you do not make more money than you currently make in Nigeria?

Abroad levels people. They try as much as possible to create an equal society. A right balance between capitalism and socialism.

- What Canada can guarantee you: Okay/high standard of living.
- What Canada can't guarantee you: More money.
Canada can't even guarantee if you would make more than minimum wage in your first 3 years in the country.

TrueNigerian300:


Will you keep quiet in your cubicles there
Most of you are deluded and can't comprehend simple thing the guy in question said he wants money he didnt mention sanity or good health care. And the next thing you all preach to tell him is to move abroad. Even the not too wise Nigerians i have met all agreed that making money in Nigeria is easier than in developed countries. I dont care about anybody's wealth i only buttressed my point by mentioning their name to a deluded fellow like you. And she started with the name first.

Cubicle better sef. Na for under bridge i dey knack sleep

Bros don't get emotional, most of these threads are lies. People just wan steer useless arguments.
You are right. There is no way someone who makes 800k a month will migrate just for the purpose of making money.
Anyway, na people wey get time dey do stupid argument sha

deleSayo:


No mind am
TrueNigerian300 na confam money-miss-road. Poverty stricken fellow

No i am poverty stricken my Oga I am not just obsessed with abroad and I am a stronger believer that you are better off in your country if you are rich and Nigeria is not an exemption. I have the opportunity to go the US in my final year as one of the best student in my class for exchange program and I did not take it serious. So only poor Nigerians are obsessed with abroad.

salford1:
The OP already has a wrong mindset about moving. It's hard to give an advice based on his reason i.e. to make more money. What will now happen if you do not make more money than you currently make in Nigeria?

Abroad levels people. They try as much as possible to create an equal society. A right balance between capitalism and socialism.

- What Canada can guarantee you: Okay/high standard of living.
- What Canada can't guarantee you: More money.
Canada can't even guarantee if you would make more than minimum wage in your first 3 years in the country.

Very wise input this is kind of advice the guy needs but our abroad advocate started sweet-mouthing how everywhere is gold and honey. I am yet to see anybody that dispute this assertion - that it is easier to make money in Nigeria than in abroad. And funny enough none of them said what he will do or how he will make the money when he get to the almighty Canada of gold and honey. The business he can do there nobody said anything about that only come come come gold and honey are flowing everywhere you go

TrueNigerian300:

No i am poverty stricken my Oga I am not just obsessed with abroad and I am a stronger believer that you are better off in your country if you are rich and Nigeria is not an exemption. I have the opportunity to go the US in my final year as one of the best student in my class for exchange program and I did not take it serious. So only poor Nigerians are obsessed with abroad.

Your debates lack credibility because of statements like this which makes you sound poor, narrow-minded and uneducated.

Kenn55:


Cubicle better sef. Na for under bridge i dey knack sleep

Bros don't get emotional, most of these threads are lies. People just wan steer useless arguments.
You are right. There is no way someone who makes 800k a month will migrate just for the purpose of making money.
Anyway, na people wey get time dey do stupid argument sha

You are right as well but some could be true you can never say I personally know of a person in Canada that earn around that range before he left Nigeria. I am not emotional about bro the way she talks like as if she and all her friends live king in the UK. And to be sincere if the OP is not lying he is most likely living a better life than her

TrueNigerian300:


Very wise input this is kind of advice the guy needs but our abroad advocate started sweet-mouthing how everywhere is gold and honey. I am yet to see anybody that dispute this assertion - that it is easier to make money in Nigeria than in abroad. And funny enough none of them said what he will do or how he will make the money when he get to the almighty Canada of gold and honey. The business he can do there nobody said anything about that only come come come gold and honey are flowing everywhere you go

Why is everything about money to you? Money that can't buy you sanity and peace of mind in this jungle called Nigeria.

TrueNigerian300:

You are right as well but some could be true you can never say I personally know of a person in Canada that earn around that range before he left Nigeria. I am not emotional about bro the way she talks like as if she and all her friends live king in the UK. And to be sincere if the OP is not lying he is most likely living a better life than her

Are you living like a King?

deleSayo:


Your debates lack credibility because of statements like this which makes you sound poor, narrow-minded and uneducated.

I pity you anywhere you are!!! SMH!!!
So who are those Nigerians that kill themselves to go abroad
Who are those Nigerians that see abroad as paradise??If you have problem with that statement you need to be tested for malaria
Please answer the question.

deleSayo:


See this ODe. Are you living like a King?

Your brain must be very far from you i never said so it is you and your people that are making it look like abroad is paradise and you all live like a king there.
What a very unwise guy that can not comprehend simple sentences!!!

Where do you work? I'm in my final year and I will be need job immediately I leave school...I wish you can connect me

Scaredd:
I've noticed on similar threads seeking migration advice to Canada that almost everyone advises leave the country and I'm like "is it so good in Canada?

The only reason I want to travel to Canada or any other high profile country is to make far more money than I make in Nigeria.

Now, by the Grace of God I earn over 800k monthly with promising potentials for more. I'm 32yrs and planning to settle down next year, but with so many advises saying "leaving the country to Canada is the best choice", I'm so confused right now as per what's the best choice for me. I even watched a video where a guy living in canada said he spent upto 400k monthly on expenses.

So, I want to ask and need advise from anyone living in Canada. Would you advise someone earning 800k monthly in Nigeria to leave for Canada?

Your input is highly appreciated.

There is nothing factual about your story... I don't know why a grown man will come online to brag about money he doesn't have.... What kind of person makes 800k a month and even here on nairaland seeking travel advise... 800k in any country is a baller income giving how tough things are economically across the globe. Stop deceiving yourself and get a life

lorenzos1:
Guy, you are making a lot of money already in Nigeria right now. You can comfortably save 50% of your salary. You might not be able to save a lot here in Canada, but your standard of living and cost of living will be higher. So if you want more money Nigeria might be good but what is the value of this money with inflation catching up. Lemme give you my experience

The Big question is not about what you earn now, but the value of what you earn in a few years time. In 2015 USD was N160, i was planning to do an online MBA course which was about 45K USD then it was just 7.2m, i got the admission and deferred the program for a year. By 2016 exchange rate was now 360 and the program would now cost me 16.2m, i clearly could not put that kind of money on some MBA (not like i had it anyway). I started thinking of investing in property instead and i noticed I didn't have enough to get a good property (was earning 500k per month). In the end i decided to ask myself why did the exchange rate depreciate so badly within such a short period of time and what are the chances it will get better (Balance of trade, Import driven economy, over dependence on oil (monoproduct economy), extreme corruption, myopic leadership, lack of basic amenities to support economic growth) have this things changed since then, the answer is no, currently Naira is still depreciating as if we are the only ones affected by covid. As of 2017 IMF stated that if the Naira was actually flexed it's real value to the dollar was about N520 to a dollar, then i read about Venezuela a country very similar to ours their currency is now so bad, they can't afford a lot of necessities (drugs,food et all). May things never get that bad for Nigeria.

Our leaders are not visionary people, things will not get better unless there is a big change in our system of governance. Nigeria is currenly the poverty capital of the world. When you have so many poor people around then the rich will not be safe (so you migh want to consider security)

Basic Amenities : You won't fix the roads, and power is still a big issue.

I completed my Master's in Canada in December, I got a low paying clerk Job in January and had to stop due to Covid, but i still purchased a 2015 SUV without taking credit, but my wife has been working for over a year now, she was recently approved for a mortgage and her pay is not even fantastic. I have peace of mind, I see people doing what we call odd Jobs living well. In conclusion, just look at the pros and cons and make your choice Canada also has its ills, there is racism, your kids might turn to drugs, LGBT thingy, distance from family, bad weathe, high bills & taxes, little savings etc. But ask yourself How was Nigeria 10 years ago compared to now as it progressed. And like someone said You can't be a lizard in Nigeria and suddenly become a Crocodile in Canada. If you have what it takes to succeed you will succeed anywhere.

Thanks for your advice, I'm really delighted with this.

TrueNigerian300:


Very wise input this is kind of advice the guy needs but our abroad advocate started sweet-mouthing how everywhere is gold and honey. I am yet to see anybody that dispute this assertion - that it is easier to make money in Nigeria than in abroad. And funny enough none of them said what he will do or how he will make the money when he get to the almighty Canada of gold and honey. The business he can do there nobody said anything about that only come come come gold and honey are flowing everywhere you go

Having lived in Canada for a while and now a citizen. Worked survival jobs and professional jobs. I atleast know what happens around here.

Interestingly, These types of questions are common on Quora where I am also active. People earning descent income in their countries trying to make a move to Canada. Some eventually do, and they arrive with big expectations. When some of these new arrivals with big expectations can't land an ordinary $15 per hour job within one year of landing, they start cursing and swearing at the Canadian government. Bitter about losing the career/money they left back in their home country. Some even ask how to go about sueing the government believing they have been duped by the hype. Then, you now start wondering where Canada ever promised them a job at a level equal to the job they had in their home country.

It's just wrong to base immigration decisions on potential earnings or income.

salford1:

Having lived in Canada for a while and now a citizen. Worked survival jobs and professional jobs. I atleast know what happens around here.

Interestingly, These types of questions are common on Quora where I am also active. People earning descent income in their countries trying to make a move to Canada. Some eventually do, and they arrive with big expectations. When some of these new arrivals with big expectations can't land an ordinary $15 per hour job within one year of landing, they start cursing and swearing at the Canadian government. Bitter about losing the career/money they left back in their home country. Some even ask how to go about sueing the government believing they have been duped by the hype. Then, you now start wondering where Canada ever promised them a job at a level equal to the job they had in their home country.

It's just wrong to base immigration decisions on potential earnings or income.

People on the thread keep on talking about businesses but is Nigeria the only country in the world to be an entrepreneur? Is it illegal for immigrants to become entrepreneurs in Canada. I see a lot of successful indian businesses in the west. Why do Nigerians believe a Nigerian can only be successful in business in Nigeria.

Scaredd:


Anyway I am a business man

oga scared can I pm you? Looking for a lucrative business to invest in abeg

tensazangetsu20:

People on the thread keep on talking about businesses but is Nigeria the only country in the world to be an entrepreneur? Is it illegal for immigrants to become entrepreneurs in Canada. I see a lot of successful indian businesses in the west. Why do Nigerians believe a Nigerian can only be successful in business in Nigeria.

I do not believe that you can only be successful in Nigeria. You can be successful anywhere in the world if you have a great business idea. E.g. the owner of World remit was a refugee from Somalia that made it big in Britain.

Irrespective of wherever you came from, there are many succesful and failed entrepreneurs/businesses in the west, just as there are in Nigeria. Heck, some refugees that came in from war torn Syria are making it big in their own businesses in Canada.

salford1:

I do not have an answer to your last question.

However, for the first question, irrespective of wherever you came from, there are many succesful and failed entrepreneurs/businesses in the west, just as there are in Nigeria.
Heck, some refugees that came in from war torn Syria are making it big in their own businesses in Canada.

Seriously it's so annoying hearing them saying there is money to be made in Nigeria. if you can succeed in doing business in Nigeria, you can literally succeed anywhere in the world. A friend of mine relocated to the states and started a part time E commerce business. Her first month she had over 20000 dollars in sales. She says doing business over there is so easy because people have so much money to spend. The same business here in Nigeria was generating peanuts.

Business everywhere is difficult but there's more chance for business success in a country where there's infrastructure, rule of law and most importantly the populace who can afford to purchase your products and services.

tensazangetsu20:

Seriously it's so annoying hearing them saying there is money to be made in Nigeria. if you can succeed in doing business in Nigeria, you can literally succeed anywhere in the world. A friend of mine relocated to the states and started a part time E commerce business. Her first month she had over 20000 dollars in sales. She says doing business over there is so easy because people have so much money to spend. The same business here in Nigeria was generating peanuts.

Business everywhere is difficult but there's more chance for business success in a country where there's infrastructure, rule of law and most importantly the populace who can afford to purchase your products and services.

I modified my answer above abit. See example of world remit.

I agree, the ease of doing business overseas is great as long as you have a solid business plan and idea. Westerners have much disposable income than Africans plus they are not plagued with the issue of power supply. There are high speed internet connections available too.
All these factors offer great quality of life.

Scaredd:
I've noticed on similar threads seeking migration advice to Canada that almost everyone advises leave the country and I'm like "is it so good in Canada?

The only reason I want to travel to Canada or any other high profile country is to make far more money than I make in Nigeria.

Now, by the Grace of God I earn over 800k monthly with promising potentials for more. I'm 32yrs and planning to settle down next year, but with so many advises saying "leaving the country to Canada is the best choice", I'm so confused right now as per what's the best choice for me. I even watched a video where a guy living in canada said he spent upto 400k monthly on expenses.

So, I want to ask and need advise from anyone living in Canada. Would you advise someone earning 800k monthly in Nigeria to leave for Canada?

Your input is highly appreciated.

As per this thread before it's derailed, the bolded is high expectation. Such mindset is not the best when thinking of migrating to Canada or any western country. Another wrong mindset is from those that convert CAD to Naira and vice versa.

However if OP migrates to Canada with an open mind, with enough dose of patience. Things might greatly work in his favour, or he might not even make anywhere close in equivalent to what he is earning in Nigeria, but Canada would definitely give a 2nd chance to live in a sane society. A society that offers descent living with high quality of life. Even the air we breathe here is less polluted and much cleaner lol.

My Take:

You have got a good job, with 800k monthly you are living large but Nigeria is a very unpredictable country.. anything can happen.

My advise is this, for the sake of your unborn kids, secure a plan B now that you can.

Your kids will forever be grateful to you!

If you're looking to make more money... it's not assured but Comfort, peace, security, access to best health facilities, education etc. All this you will have