IamMichael:

Remember that being stubborn, rebellious, a glutton (someone who eats a lot) and drunk( someone who drinks a lot) does not equate to commission of crime.

Dtruthspeaker:


See why knowledge and understanding is very necessary?

You do not understand that at that time the Adults understood and agreed to the Abolition of All evil in their families and where Cleansed From it.Therefore, it is" their children" who shall now be doing wrongs and evil, for Evil now would have to move from them to their children. And if not "those children" then the children of the children and so on

Hence the Law!

Seek knowledge and understanding, it would prevent you from asking stupid questions which "appear" sound and reasonable and good to your foolish heart.

Maximus69:

Please if it will be thoroughly implemented, i will advocate for such law!
Let's see who will embezzle public funds in our society, perhaps most of you don't realize that greed didn't just emerge but grow little by little, if the law says kill the greedy ones amongst you, i will stand up for such a law to be thoroughly implemented Sir!

Ola17:


Is greed and drunkenness a crime?

Maximus69:


Little drops of water makes a mighty ocean!

So a stitch in time saves nine!

Our society is like this today because greedy ones got public offices!

Our banking sector, education, power, road, housing, health, security are nothing to write home about, the economy is so bad that majority of our youths are into ritual killings and prostitution.
All these are the result of what the greedy ones in our midst caused.
Oh YES Sir!
Greed is the greatest crime against humanity! Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9

Ola17:


More like cutting off the head to cure headache.

Greed in itself isn’t a crime, but when someone out of greed engages in acts that hurt others and the society at large; that is a crime.

Dtruthspeaker:


See why knowledge and understanding is very necessary?

You do not understand that at that time the Adults understood and agreed to the Abolition of All evil in their families and where Cleansed From it.Therefore, it is" their children" who shall now be doing wrongs and evil, for Evil now would have to move from them to their children. And if not "those children" then the children of the children and so on

Hence the Law!

Seek knowledge and understanding, it would prevent you from asking stupid questions which "appear" sound and reasonable and good to your foolish heart.

petra1:


It was necessary that time because there was no solution to demonization . You have to terminate the virus .



It’s not for this dispensation . God won’t give such instruction . Now we can cast the evil spirit out Christ has given us solution

1 John 3:8
. . . For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

IamMichael:


But, the passage never mentioned they committed a crime.

Even amongst my people here in the past before the coming of the British, once you commit a crime, there are remedial means from mild to severe. Why would a god advocate for stoning of children simply because they eat a lot and drink too much?

IamMichael:


Who created the universe and everything in it?

Maximus69:

Please if it will be thoroughly implemented, i will advocate for such law!
Let's see who will embezzle public funds in our society, perhaps most of you don't realize that greed didn't just emerge but grow little by little, if the law says kill the greedy ones amongst you, i will stand up for such a law to be thoroughly implemented Sir!

IamMichael:


There are Laws in place against crimes in Nigeria. If an individual decides to go against them, and they get caught, they are prosecuted. If found guilty, they face their punishment accordingly.

All the people who have been stealing and looting the national coffers from independence till date are both christians and Muslims...Let that sink in for a minute, because you are part of the christian community, and you have stated that you are not different from other Christians.
• That Nigeria is bad today ==> christians and Muslims.
• That Nigeria is the poverty capital of the world today ==> christians and Muslims.
• That the the national coffers get stolen and turned to personal milk factory==> christians and Muslims.
• That Nigeria has continually endorsed corruption in government==> christians and Muslims.

The only thing Religion is serving in your lives is to justify your lack of self control and intellectual growth while filling up your heads with mediocre and irrelevant things. I mean when one looks at the irrelevant things that comes out from you lots, and the irrelevant and pathetic national discussions that emanate from the religious infested successive governments, it is no wonder why the country is where it is today.

Religion is the reason why you are here advocating for the murder of children because they ate and drank too much. SHAME ON YOU, YOU MURDEROUS RELIGIOUS EXTREMIST WHO KILLS CHILDREN TO APPEASE THEIR GOD...A VERY BIG SHAME ON YOU!

• If a child fails to leave up to expectations and behave and be productive positively as a good member of the society should, then the parents and the entire society have failed that child.
• Every child is a product of their immediate environment and society. Every society has a central organ that helps as a working machinery to help everyone be happy in the society by creating access to things that will help members be safe and gainful.
• In Nigeria, that organ is the government. This government in Nigeria is filled up with people who subscribe to Christianity and Islam.
• This people each have been continuously growing in their religion alongside their country.
• When you look at their country, all you see are the fact that Religion is the only reason they're where they are because it has redirected their mind from things that promote advancement, civil rights and vibrant economy to irrelevant things like pilgrimages, building of gigantic worship centres, favouritism, nepotism, religious tribalism, religious centred affiliations, constant religious motivated killings, unending discrimination on religious grounds, religious terror groups, politics based on religious affiliations...the list is endless!

It is from this sort of religious bigoted system you came from, and it continuosly keeps showing that you are a murderer, and have sworn to advocate the killing of children for drinking and eating too much. After raising children up in a bad environment, you expect them to be different. A snake will always give birth to a snake.
Anyone with any sense of common morality knows that murdering anyone for any reason whatsoever is the worst thing anyone can do... But here you are, advocating for the murder of children. I don't blame you because you are a product of your religion, just like the rest of your lots. It's safe to say that in the country, you Religious lots lack the capacity to see how shallow and archaic your line of thoughts are... like 5000yrs ago archaic!
Until you take the next step further and be free of Religion, all the petty irrelevant things i listed above and archaic thoughts will continue to be the recurrent things in your life.
You will continue to limit yourself within the dictates of your outdated false religious books!

Regards!

petra1:


Tell us pls

onlyfacts:


Parents held a sacred position is God's eyes, they were to be honored. Such honor was indirectly a way of honoring God. Dishonoring ones parents, was also dishonoring God. Such acts held a death penalty by the law code. For the parents to come forward to the judges of the land, such delinquents were already past the point of reasoning, they were rebellious. A delinquent and rebellious person was never a law abiding person and a threat to society.

Maximus69:


Most of this so called ATHEISTS advocate for the system implore by the orients, whereas amongst the orients a fraudster must be executed!

I sincerely do not have an answer to that. I’ve spent some time in the Orients but have not come across any country there whose punishment for fraud is execution

Please tell me is it not greed that leads to such acts?

IamMichael:


So, going by your argument, therefore they should be murdered for drinking and eating too much?

bigname23:
Bros u get time to answer dis people..how many christains do u still se answering dis guys..na person wey never know dem dey follow dem dey argue..normal person just wake up in d morning go root out old Mosaic law wey christains nor dey use ...just to look for argument..ask am if he don ever go one church one day wey pastor preach dis nonsense...

Maximus69:


I've told you several times but you don't want to learn!

There are misinformed atheists claiming believers and their are misinformed believers claiming atheists!

For your information, there is no single Christian in Politics throughout the world!

IamMichael:


Well, according to a 2011 survey by Pew Research Center, there are 2.18 billion Christians around the world in 2010.

"According to official statistics, worldwide attendance at the 2018 celebration of the Memorial was about 20.3 million." I know you know what that is.

In other words, a christian sect with about 20.3 million active members always goes about disclaiming the remaining 2billion+ brethrens as not being true christians. That sounds like an internal issue to me though.
I mean, your sect is not the only one making same claim that others are not the actual christians. I mean there are Catholics, Anglicans, Methodists, Protestants, Mormons, Baptists, Lutheranism, Calvinists, Presbyterians, etc. I mean the list is endless.

• When it comes to the numbers, your organisation ranks low on the list.
• When it comes to least numbers, your organisation also doesn't rank on this list since 20.3million is a substantial number.
•Your Organisation is just one among many seeking for the favours of all your central deity of worship. However, the problem is that most of you are suffering from an unseen daddy issue, so you all are trying very hard to continuously outsmart each other by proposing all your various doctrines as the correct one.
• For us who are free of such irrelevant things, we continue to laugh at how much effort people are putting into making sure their fantasy imaginary daddy is pleased with them.
• We are the neutrals telling you all that you are all doing it all wrong. Religious sects doctrinal advancements are like two people fighting over right to a spoilt bread. While you guy's are busy fighting which part of the bread is still edible and which is not despite it being clear to others that bread is actually a spoilt bread in its entirety.
An outsider will casually tell you if it's worth bothering about the bread seeing as it is spoilt, and that the health risk of consuming any part of it far outweighs any nutrient you will gain if you insist on eating the rotten bread.
•Religion is that rotten bread. No matter the part of it you decide to eat, it doesn't remove the rottenness from it, it just transfers it's rotten nature to a part of you it can hook onto and grow from there.

I hope you learn from this simple analogy!

IamMichael:


Wow!!! I didn't know they transferred evil from father to children and vice versa like files on Xender.
We learn everyday anyway!

Ola17:


Concluding that Only greed is the cause of fraud and other associated societal ills is being too simplistic IMO. Covetousness, poverty, lack of self discipline and empathy could lead one into fraud don’t you think?

The laws in Deuteronomy 21:18-21 may be necessary in ancient societies because they couldn’t come up with a better way of addressing such issues.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes, Evil is a virus and a Hereditary Disease like Sickle cell, Aids and all the other hereditary diseases you know. Hence the need to Strongly contain and curtail it like your Corona Virus by Strongly and Violently prevent its Doings, Effects its Everything.

But you have all failed to stop it so now Evil Has Houses in Many Countries and Nations and Many Souls Just-Like-You!

bigname23:
oga analyst u nor go go do beta thing with ur life dey dere anylise people life...people wey e be say alot of dem dey live beta life Dan u wey dey eat beta bread ...u dey eat beta bread na pepo nor know u...Bros abeg go sleep ..u need it

onlyfacts:


A drunk and a glutton were just two examples out of many scenarios. A drunk/glutton combination is a terrible combination. A drunk was not fit for work as his senses were never complete, a glutton on the other hand like to eat good food in large quantities which would cost a lot. A combination of not being fit for work and still liking the best of foods in large quantity breeds a lifestyle of crime.

IamMichael:


So, going by your argument, therefore they should be murdered for drinking and eating too much?

IamMichael:


Well, according to a 2011 survey by Pew Research Center, there are 2.18 billion Christians around the world in 2010.

"According to official statistics, worldwide attendance at the 2018 celebration of the Memorial was about 20.3 million." I know you know what that is.

In other words, a christian sect with about 20.3 million active members always goes about disclaiming the remaining 2billion+ brethrens as not being true christians. That sounds like an internal issue to me though.
I mean, your sect is not the only one making same claim that others are not the actual christians. I mean there are Catholics, Anglicans, Methodists, Protestants, Mormons, Baptists, Lutheranism, Calvinists, Presbyterians, etc. I mean the list is endless.

• When it comes to the numbers, your organisation ranks low on the list.
• When it comes to least numbers, your organisation also doesn't rank on this list since 20.3million is a substantial number.
•Your Organisation is just one among many seeking for the favours of all your central deity of worship. However, the problem is that most of you are suffering from an unseen daddy issue, so you all are trying very hard to continuously outsmart each other by proposing all your various doctrines as the correct one.
• For us who are free of such irrelevant things, we continue to laugh at how much effort people are putting into making sure their fantasy imaginary daddy is pleased with them.
• We are the neutrals telling you all that you are all doing it all wrong. Religious sects doctrinal advancements are like two people fighting over right to a spoilt bread. While you guy's are busy fighting which part of the bread is still edible and which is not despite it being clear to others that bread is actually a spoilt bread in its entirety.
An outsider will casually tell you if it's worth bothering about the bread seeing as it is spoilt, and that the health risk of consuming any part of it far outweighs any nutrient you will gain if you insist on eating the rotten bread.
•Religion is that rotten bread. No matter the part of it you decide to eat, it doesn't remove the rottenness from it, it just transfers it's rotten nature to a part of you it can hook onto and grow from there.

I hope you learn from this simple analogy!

IamMichael:


@bolded, that's not correct and a very limited narrow thinking path.

If the ancient societies couldn't come up with a better system to address erring members of the society, doesn't it tell you that the religious god in question is also limited in Knowledge?

In other words, you are saying the said god isn't intelligent enough to devise better means and direct his worshipper's accordingly? So, he is not all knowing? Weren't he the one that gave them the laws?

IamMichael:


So, going by your argument, therefore they should be murdered for drinking and eating too much?

onlyfacts:

Refer to my previous post. Thanks

Ola17:


Take it easy bro.

Read my submissions on this thread thus far and point out where I claimed what you wrote above.

IamMichael:

I was referring to the post i quoted specifically... I'm not attacking you o please... Just reasoning along that post and it's implications.

IamMichael:


It's a simple yes or no question. Neither the post you are referring me to and your subsequent post provided any answer of any sort. Don't know why you are referring me to it.

Don't know what's with the avoidance of giving a simple direct answer!