IamMichael:


It's a simple yes or no question. Neither the post you are referring me to and your subsequent post provided any answer of any sort. Don't know why you are referring me to it.

Don't know what's with the avoidance of giving a simple direct answer!

IamMichael:


Holy mother of fück!

Look at what a JEHOVAH WITNESS is saying. We will take up this case... Religious Extremist detected!!!

IamMichael:

I was referring to the post i quoted specifically... I'm not attacking you o please... Just reasoning along that post and it's implications.

Ola17:


Your earlier reply gives off vibes of someone with a preconceived mindset(I could be Totally wrong). You kind of went on a tangent, it is easy to read from my contributions on this thread that I really don’t hold the part of the Bible in the op as the direct word of God.

It is a common practice in earlier civilizations for the leaders to make laws and claim them to be revelations from God, this may be the only way you can get the common people to maintain social order as they haven’t developed the system of policing we have now. People’s consciences were mostly their police.

onlyfacts:


The Bible quotation isn't relevant to the questioned you asked. You wrongly directed it at CHRISTIANS.

There were three different laws given to servants of God in the bible at different time intervals. The patriarchal law, the mosaic law, and the laws and principles governing Christianity. These laws overlap in some places but are hugely different in other places, hence their clear distinction in names.

The patriarchal law was for the likes of Abraham, Isaac and jacob etc(they are the forefathers of the nation of Israel). It was the foundation leading to the mosaic law which would officially be given to moses at Mount Sinai.

The mosaic law was for the nation of Israel, it was a temporary law that foreshadowed that which was to come after it, after which it was to be fulfilled, which marked it's ending (which includes the law found in Deuteronomy)

The Christian laws and principles were for both Jewish christians and gentiles christians(which includes Christians around the world). It is that which God is using NOW in directing his people.

So I wasn't evading your question by not answering YES or NO as that LAW IS NOT APPLICABLE TO CHRISTIANS, I wrongly assumed you knew. I was simply explaining what that law in Deuteronomy meant to the israelites who observed it. As a Christian Jesus didn't make that law applicable to us and many others under the mosaic law and neither did his apostles under the Christian law and principle. So your answer is no.

IamMichael:


I like your well articulated points and reply.

However, have you also contemplated in anyway that the Bible which you are explaining in this well articulated manner is just a guide book formulated by early Israelites to use and control their own people? And to enforce discipline by assigning a figurative authority (god) into the equation to give it legitimacy?

In some African traditions, some things are given reverence highly so that people respect it or don't abuse it.
• Fear of the dark gave rise to certain nighttime stereotypes. It is still this nighttime stereotypes that make some christians believe nighttime is the best time to fire, kill and destroy evil spirits and demons.
Fear of the dark motivated all evil related stories because people are ordinarily afraid of what they can't see, which is what the dark times represent.

• Stories of Miss KoiKoi, Willie Willie and the rest were told to students and children as deterrent mostly so that they avoided going out alone( to avoid kidnapping or being captured for rituals, etc).
The way it is told, the people that are telling it and all the made up sightings are just there to reinforce that belief.
That's exactly what the Bible is.

In your right up, you made mention of three specific laws god gave to the Israelites. This is to tell you that the Israelites made the law up and backed it up with a god's command to give it legitimacy.
However, Israelites are not part of the christian laws you are talking about seeing as Judaism is what they Practice.

Just like Israelites used a god to give legitimacy to their laws and orders, the people who founded Christianity used the same format, and cherry picked some laws in the Torah to give it legitimacy and spread it. This is also the major reason why there is a lot of contradictions between the Torah(alleged old testament) and the christian books(alleged new testament).

Maximus69:


The law says
"Honour your father and mother, so that you may live long" Exodus 20:12
It's the first law that comes with a promise "if you keep this one, you will live long"
So God made the people to know that even the least form of disobedience is enough for the parents to get rid of a child who chose to become a rebel in the family!
That's the import of what you're quoting!

Ghostrye:

So basically you are supporting abortion because an unwanted child is in essence rebelling against the wishes of it's mother and therefore deserves the death sentence right.
Me, you, same page.

Maximus69:


Abortion is depriving someone of his right to live!

So it's a totally different case Sir!

The rebellious child has tasted life and know the one responsible for his birth, but pregnancy is like a child whom you can't phantom the attitude or behaviour the child will develop later in life!

Ghostrye:

A child that won't flush out when you ask it to is definitely going to be both stubborn and rebellious, if you ask for my half-hearted opinion, it's better to just have the abortion before he commits any greater crimes when he is born.
Like those Aki and pawpaw kinda kids.