proudly9ja:

A few weeks ago, the world woke up to protests in Tunisia fuelled by an act of self sacrifice by a University graduate fruit seller who set himself on fire after being harassed by the police. Thousands of youths organised themselves via social network site - Facebook to protest against the high rate of unemployment and economic downturn in the country. The protests moved from the internet to the streets as youths and opposition leaders joined forces to wrestle government from the hands of Ben Ali who had been ruling since 1987. Within days Ben Ali abdicated the seat and fled to Saudi Arabia, the Prime Minister took over and is now working towards a new government.

Fast forward a few days.

Again the world woke up to similar protests but now in the cities in Egypt, from Cairo to Suez, youths gathered together again using the power of the internet to join forces to protest against misrule and government's insensitivity to the plight of the people. Like it happened in Tunisia, Egyptians are asking that their leader Hosni Mubarak, who has been president since 1981, to step down and flee like his Tunisian counterpart. According to the NewYork Times,

"Protests led by young people entered a third day in Egypt, where Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel laureate who has become an outspoken opponent of President Hosni Mubarak, returned in hopes of galvanizing the campaign. The Muslim Brotherhood, long Egypt’s largest organized opposition, ended days of official inaction and said it would join the Friday protests, declaring “a day of rage for the Egyptian nation.”

As this is going on, Yemen a country close to Egypt has also gone to the streets today. This time, the protests are not orchestrated by youths but by the opposition leaders. However, the demand is the same, a change in government and an improvement in quality of life. Again quoting from the NY Times,
“To Jidda, oh Ali!” some shouted, in reference to the city in Saudi Arabia where Tunisia’s president fled this month. “The people’s demand is the fall of the government!”

“We are telling them either he delivers real political reforms or we’re going to deliver him out of power,” said Shawki al-Qadi, an opposition lawmaker and organizer of the Yemeni protests. “He’s closed all the doors of hope. The only glimmer is in the streets.”

I am glad that youths and generally, the so called masses in these countries are rising up to their responsibilities and knowing that we all are a part of government and we have the power to oust any government at the polls.
I await for the days we Nigerians will remove religious and ethnic sentiments to fight against oppression. The day we will wake up from our sleep and openly speak against government's insensitivity.
In Egypt, Christians and Muslims are gathering in mosques and churches. They are JOINING FORCES. They are no bickering against each other neither are they fighting each other. This is key. Question is, when will we as Nigerians get to this stage?

DeeJay20:

DUDE GO BACK TO SLEEP ! U DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN NORTH AFRICA, DECEPTION AND COVERT OPERATIONS HAVE JUST GOT MORE SINISTER!!!

blacksta:

If you have nothing to post  - read and move on  - The above makes no sense at all  - what deception or covert is going on.??

Kobojunkie:

^^^ Like someone said earlier, it is probably OK that you stop responding as you are still not making sense. Much of the news you get are from those sources, so what are you yapping about?

1) Are Egyptians not rioting in the streets of Egypt?

2) Are people not being injured by the police and calling for freedom?

What exactly is are you trying to deny is the case here?

@Poster, like someone said, More Nigerians would rather make excuses and create reasons for why inaction is the best action for Nigeria. It seems only muslims willing to die in the name of Sharia do the fighting in this country. Everyone else seems more in the business of producing excuses for why nothing of the sort should happen in Nigeria.

Kobojunkie:

  Is this by any chance BecomeRich or his brother?? anyone?? 

proudly9ja:

Elrazur,

Im not even talking about anyone 'dying' for Nigeria. It doesn't have to be violent protests. What intrigues me about the examples above is that in no way have we heard of Muslim or Christian or ethnic issues. Noone is saying they want to remove Mubarak because he is a muslim or Ben Ali was removed because he is from a certain part of the country.

When will we as Nigerians wake up and work together against these people who call themselves our leaders? Elections are coming and all I hear is, bakare is a pastor, Buhari is a Sharia proponent, Goodluck is South South?? I mean
Will we ever come together and say NO to corruption and go to the polls, vote for the right people and DEFEND our votes?

ikay88:




This week in Jos, we all saw women protest against the army and recieve gun shots in the process so never say nigerians "no get liver". The situation dictates the play. After all a rat is most dangerous when cornered.

ElRazur:

I came across a mantra of "change" the other day and from the top of my head,  it is split into three levels (1) Those who are ready to make changes and will go to the extra mile to make it happen. (2) Those who want change but are not willing to pay the price. (3) Those who are not remotely bothered to even think about change.

After reading that piece, I am of the belief that Nigeria is made up of most people with a mindset from (2) and (3)

Ikengawo:

You people are dense.

We as a people are quick to look at any situation in any part of the world that differs from our own, and because it's different assume it's better for reasons that are beyond me.
Nigerians believe foreign languages are 'better' then their own (how a language is better then another is beyond me, it's all speech)
Nigerians believe foreign peoples are better then their own
Nigerians believe, for reasons that are again beyond me, their country is the absolute worst in the world and this is where the trend of millions of Nigerians flooding into places like Chad where they starve and burn in the heat before even giving Abuja or Lagos a try comes from.

[b]This is the new own that puzzles me. Nigerians now think what is happening in Tunisia is comparable to their situation and is what is 'needed'. [/b]All of these examples of total confusion stem from 1 source.

Nigerians have a flair for citing problems and a total inability to understand or explain them.

Any nigerian can make a 10 pages list of the problems in Nigeria, few can tell you why these problems exist and what the cure is since the cure comes from understanding the cause.

So let me explain things for you. The problem in Nigeria isn't the government. It's the people. The Nigerian government has the task of running 150 million of the worlds more stubborn, defiant, corrupt, egocentric, materialistic and unpatriotic citizens that i personally know,

DeeJay20:

U GUYS SHOULD JUST KEEP your MOUTHS CLOSED AND WATCH A  NEWS VIDEO
ON THIS ISSUE, LOOK FOR THE SIGNS OF DECEIT

US urges reform in Egypt hmmmm o.k,

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmEcQMwprIo[/flash]


AND BY THE WAY NORTH AFRICANS (ARABS) AND SUB-SAHARAN (BLACKS) AFRICANS DO NOT HAVE
THE SAME IDEOLOGY, LEARN ABOUT A PEOPLE BEFORE RUNNING YOUR MOUTH IGNORANTLY,

ElRazur:



With all due respect, do you really feel pushing your views on to people will get any where?

So far most have ignored your post, and the few who replied, you seem not to even take on board what they are saying. 

Smh.

DeeJay20:

Dude i do not post for peoples hand-clap and i do  not push views on people, i just state the obvious!

ElRazur:



With all due respect, do you really feel pushing your views on to people will get any where?

So far most have ignored your post, and the few who replied, you seem not to even take on board what they are saying.  

Smh.

DeeJay20:

Dude i do not post for peoples hand-clap and i do  not push views on people, i just state the obvious!


THE MAINSTREAM NEWS ARE CALLING THIS PROTEST IN TUNISIA & EGYPT
"THE JASMINE REVOLUTION", O.K

HMMMM

1 - Serbia - Bulldozer Revolution (2000)

2 - Georgia's - Rose Revolution (2003)

3 - Ukraine's - Orange Revolution (2004)

4 - Lebanon's Cedar Revolution (2005)

5 - Kyrgyzstan's Tulip Revolution (2005)

What do they all have in common,

An election was held and the Incumbent Won or refused to step-down, was accused of Fraud and the West Agreed, so they cheating Incumbent must go,

Hmmm a certain West African country comes to mind, Ivory Coast

Only that in Black africa the people cant protest and over-throw a Leader by Protest (I guess their Minds
are not ready for the Organisational skills to see it through), so the west call for the only instrument
the people, know works - Military Option, The collateral Damage Option!!!

ikay88:

i think if we have the kind of Buhari's leadership we had in the 80's, we could achieve the kind of system we want.

Alot of the corrupt elite (in police, phcn, civil service, FAAN, customs, prisons, etc) for the last 30 years have had the backing of the presidency and his friends. Removing the factor of a corrupt president and cabinet would allow for a cleansing of the system. I know if this happens the positive effects on the masses would be near instantaneous.

This years election is an opportunity we have to install a corruption fighter now, democratically, and so I don't see violent protests as necessary right now. I feel that should happen only when necessary.

This week in Jos, we all saw women protest against the army and recieve gun shots in the process so never say nigerians "no get liver". The situation dictates the play. After all a rat is most dangerous when cornered.

ElRazur:

I am not sure there is anyone here who post just for an ovation either.

Dude, your views are not saying anything not known already. Some even pointed out it was irrelevant to the post at hand.

All you appear to do is just ignore what's been said and try to post something else.


Let me ask you this, do you think the situation in Nigeria is the same or similar to the events leading to protest in the aforementioned nations?

Do you think the people in Nigeria are able to stand up and unite and demand the resignation or stepping down of those in power without letting tribalism or religion bigotry play part?

DeeJay20:



NOTICE HOW NO POSTER SINCE THE THREAD STARTED HAS MENTIONED THE BROTHER-HOOD,

IGNORANT OF THE CORE DYNAMIC SHOWS WE JUST POST OPINIONS WITHOUT TESTING, WEIGHING
AND VALIDATING THEM,

OH YEAH BY THE WAY,  I HAVE TUNISIAN AND EGYPTIAN FRIENDS AND WORK COLLEAGUES, 1ST HAND INFO!

DeeJay20:

Dude the Social Cohension and group dynamic in Nigeria is not strong in any Political sense
at the grassroot/Base or at the top, and the running elite in Nigeria ie the Military Elite  a.k.a Nigerians
shadow Goverment know this,

The case is totally different in North Africa,

Look at my Last Post, digest what i am saying and then get back to me,

ElRazur:


This is my last attempt of trying to reason with you.

This thread is about trying to ask if Nigerians can unite and demand change.

You on the other hand are just providing answer to a question no one is asking.

Brotherhood or no brother hood, that has been mentioned already on several news channel, however it is not relevant to this debate.

Finally, having Egyptian friends and what not means what exactly to the thread at hand?