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Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Mariangeles(f): 3:56pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
[s] MinorityOpinion:[/s] This is the most ridiculous piece of sh!t I've ever read in my entire life! Outrageously ridiculous! 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by gregyboy(m): 6:38pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Sofistcatdmoron: Speak for yourself oga wazobia only exist in nigeria, beyond nigeria there is nothing like wazobia but there are names like edo, benin city known to the world.... It is painful to accept but still its the bitter truth Wazobia only exist in nigeria Odion ighalos is not know as edo but wazobia right Mumu man |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Sofistcatdmoron: 6:45pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
gregyboy:That is in your pocket,, Wa zo bia is known everywhere. Even if it's only in nigeria, are u not a Nigerian 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by gregyboy(m): 7:42pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Sofistcatdmoron: Wazobia exist everywhere..... Lol my kidney...... You have never left the republic of your wazobia Outside nigeria benin is more known than wazobia, did you watch the oba coronation compare the dignitaries with that of the ooni of ife coronation, you will see that a tribe 40 million only existed in nigeria and it was graced by few nigerian dignitaries compare to that of the oba of benin While that of benin was graced beyond nigeria dignitaries European dignitaries and American dignitaries Make you dey there dey sleep, in self dilution shouting waZOboa, and be feeling no one knows Edo, while a country was name after it, and two African universities took upon the name university of benin in an honor of the Benin Empire *University of benin (togo) which is now recently university of togo. *University of benin Republic *University of of benin, benin city I know you intended to spite we benins by calling us minorites but little did you know you will meet your waterloo 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Podakejol: 9:55am On Jul 01, 2020 |
gregyboy:Benin’s are minority so stfu. Are you more than ijaw, tiv, igala? 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Ojiofor: 11:07am On Jul 01, 2020 |
Edokingdom: The person grabbing you is your Edo brother or can't you see his name? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by gregyboy(m): 11:35am On Jul 01, 2020 |
Podakejol: Pained.... Yeast I see you lack reasoning capabilites Edoid sub group like my colleagues said earlier is bigger than those tribe you mentioned You know when minorites like us, hit you guys so hard, you all turn to tell us we are minorites, Out of the non related argument on ground thesame minorites you are calling us bleeped your ancestors in the past and ruled over them, What was the eccence of you been a majour tribe in the past And What is the essence of we being a minorites in this discussion? Or do you feel if both tribes were armed today for a war there is a possibility benin would loose because we are minorites? Or because we are minorites we should keep quite on our rights because we are arguing with ibo a majour tribe abi, igbo man Mumu man, Mugu wen you be I bet odion ighalo and victor osimen shouldnt play in Manchester united because he is not from wazobia he is from Edo a mimnor tribe lol" You be mugu big mugu, and a coward for bringing population into this discussion... Pained iyamiri, how wish your ancestors were strong enough to defeat benin a minority tribe like you said we wouldn't be having this discussion Osagyefo98 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
gregyboy: You didn't make any sense.. I have always acknowledged Edo yoruba ties. This argument is not necessary again. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by gregyboy(m): 12:19pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Osagyefo98: Tell that to your brother I acknowledged edo, yoruba and ibo ties we are the foundation of the two
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Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
gregyboy: There is no correlation or any historical ties between Igbos and binis, anything been paraded online are just invented history that has no back up. Meanwhile looking at Edos and yorubas we can see that in names Obafemi, Olusegun, Rotimi, Abidemi, oba, Tope etc...shared names, titles and anything to name it. Such can't be said of igbos. History is not hearsay but rooted that even after years evidences of it can be seen and not just mere look at this, look at that... The only authentic history remains Edo-yorubas history and with over hundreds of evidence even written by binis themselves. Truth remains the truth. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by gregyboy(m): 12:34pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Osagyefo98: Lol We have names like amadi, okoro, okuta, osakwe, ise From both igbo and edo 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
gregyboy: The meaning are entirely different. Before I wrote that I know of all these but the meaning to these ones are different unlike the yorubas that has same meaning with Edos. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by gregyboy(m): 12:44pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Osagyefo98: Yorubas has no same meaning tell me one I want one to play the game you're playing i pray you dont loose igboman |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
gregyboy: Not at all...Won't lose.. I am only enforcing new norms and order. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by valirex: 11:36am On Jul 02, 2020 |
Edokingdom: Who's this one |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Shiver99: 3:04am On Jul 04, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion: It's when I read some Nairaland posts, I come to the conclusion that there are some folks here that are mentally ill. First of all, why do none of you mentally-ill folks ever argue with the Senegalese or South sudanese when they say they have a lot of dark skinned people? Why do you keep coming for igbos to try and dispute what even a blind man can see? What is it with light skin that makes folks like you tremble? It's so weird for an Igbo person to see posts like yours because lightskin is just something common they see everyday. Anyways, the lightskin of Igbo people comes from an Ancient gene that is shared only with the Ibibio group. All other south south groups are known to be near jet black with some brown people in the mix unless they were known to be heavily admixed with Igbos/Ibibios in the past several centuries. For instance, compare the natives of Yenagoa to the heavily igbo/ibibio admixed people of okrika/kalabari and Bonny. This unique gene is why you see several igbos with olive skin and hazel eyes, etc, ect as well as the famous golden skin that many non-igbo nigerians seem to covet. Don't hate. It's God that cause am. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by davidnazee: 1:14pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Shiver99: okay so igbos are half-castes.. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by gregyboy(m): 7:47am On Jul 08, 2020 |
chiefolododo: Coming from chief-olodo..... Tell me why would i take your moniker speaks otherwise |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Yujin(m): 4:30pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
gregyboy:@Gregyboy, the osagyefo you've been quoting is not Igbo but fulani. He always pretend to be Igbo just so he can cause confusion. Do not take anything he writes about Igbos seriously. Now unto the topic of the thread properly, the observation of the OP is somewhat correct. The Edo people have the semblance of both the Igbos and the Yorubas and it can be considered because of the history of the ancient Empire they ruled. While Igbos settled greatly in the eastern flank of the core Edo areas the Yorubas are found on the Western flank. When you see the Esans and the eastern part of the Binis, you see great resemblance with the Igbos.Settlements in present Edo state like Ekpon, Inyelen and a few others show that Igbos truly had flourishing communities closer to the heart of the capital. I believe a good number of the Igbos who today talk about being from Benin actually moved from these areas back into deep parts of Igboland. Most people from Nigeria don't understand how empires operate. I have much respect for the political maturity of the Binis who ruled that empire. They incorporated lots of other tribes into their political control without suppressing their individual identities. Every tribe could contribute to the advancement of the empire and that was why she really grew. Someting drastic happened to Benin that led to a massive emigration of Igbos from the areas they occupied closer to the Edoid people and since then the empire started to decline. The Ezechima story is very credible. The Igbos of his clan moved from the Benin politically control area and moved into the present Anioma area while some crossed the Niger into present Anambra area. Notice that more Igbo clans and towns in Anioma are not descendants of the Ezechima story. This shows that they were originally settled there and a good number of them never had kings until the late 19th century. These clans were not politically under the Benin empire but were heavily influenced by it nontheless. Onitsha is exactly a perfect example. After emigrating out of Benin politically controlled area, passed through the rest of the Anioma territory and settled on the other side of the Niger. They tried to create a system similar to what they learnt from Benin but never had any political connection with Benin again. Other Edoid people fleeing Benin after the empires decline moved out both towards the west and east of the empire. The Edoid(mostly Binis and Esans) migrants settled in mostly Ika and Aniocha parts of Anioma. The Ukwuanis had very little influence from the Binis because they're farther from the centre of the empire than the other Anioma clans. Let me stop here. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by gregyboy(m): 3:49am On Jul 10, 2020 |
Yujin: If that is truly is an hausa he is going to regret it, i hate anything north.... I pray he his not Modified And he is not is an igbo man who supports Buhari he still not free anyone who supports Buhari is from the norh to me |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Yujin(m): 5:56am On Jul 10, 2020 |
gregyboy:He certainly is not Igbo. The Igbos are their worst nightmare hence they always seek to cause diasffection between Igbos and other tribes in the sout just the weaken the south. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 7:01am On Jul 11, 2020 |
Yujin gregyboy Two men gossiping Lmao Custodians of who is igbo and who is not. Deciders of who fulani Ndi ala |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by bigfrancis21: 4:35am On Jul 12, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion: Igbo yellowish skin goes way back in time. During the transatlantic slavery period of the 1600s to 1800s, Igbo slaves were noted to be of yellowish skin tone. This was written down by a few white slave masters. Igbo slaves were often yellowish that other tribes nicknamed them, ‘red ebo’, a phrase which has stuck in Jamaica today and in the US has become ‘red bone’. This is proof that some Igbos have always and originally been light-skinned and not as a result of some recent admixture. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by bigfrancis21: 4:41am On Jul 12, 2020 |
gregyboy: There’s Igbo influence on Bini as well. The influence between edo and Igbo wasn’t one way. It went both ways. The bini people use the 4 native Igbo market days of Eke, Orie, Afo/Aho and Nkwo introduced by the Nri people which are Eken, Orrie, Aho and Okwo respectively in Edo. Your Oba uses a word, ‘Uku’ which is the same as ‘ukwu’ in Igbo that means ‘great’. Talk about, Ogwashi Ukwu, Ubulu Ukwu, Afara Ukwu (in Abia state) etc. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by AreaFada2: 5:29am On Jul 12, 2020 |
bigfrancis21: Benin & Igbo linguistically belong to same language branch. Precisely East Kwa/ Volta-Niger/West Benue-Congo branch of the Niger-Congo Group of languages. Same as Yoruba, Nupe, Idoma, Gbagyi, Ewe, Fon and several other Southern West Africa languages. So not surprising that certain archaic or proto root words used before divergence remain in their modern forms. Some words may have been previously disused and then re-absorbed from its use by neighborly dominant culture at a particular time. Or always remained in use. The meaning or use of a word may even change as society evolves. The story of four mysterious visitors visiting Nri king without giving their names, but the king cunningly found out anyway is a good legend. But that cannot stand any scientific scrutiny. In Benin, the week days represent the FOUR cardinal points of East, West, North & South originally. Benin has had a royal guild of astrologers for a very long time. It was one of about 35 guilds. Including Royal Guilds of Physicians/surgeons (Ewaise), of Wood workers (Igbesamwan), of Bronze Casters (Igun), public order/police (Isienmwenro), of Leather workers (Isekpokin), of Bards/poets/composers (Ogbelaka), of Pipers (Ikpakofen) and so on. Nothing was left to chance. These days were also dedicated each to the King and some senior chiefs for their palace activities/appearance. Although they became popular as days when markets with a royal charter/approval are allocated to trade. Before Christianity, Eken became the preferred day of rest and to worship to worship deities. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 9:47am On Jul 12, 2020 |
AreaFada2: It is only a mad man with believe the trash at bolded and your first paragraph. Igbo-bini story is a concocted myth. Not of such exist. The only verifiable story is Bini-Yoruba Story which have strong backing from all angles. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by AreaFada2: 10:12am On Jul 12, 2020 |
Osagyefo98:Well, well. As a veteran of Aro and the longest resident of YL, you will sure be familiar with why people believe it. Chai! Too many pained people. If you were a serious a person I would have invited you to see these things physically. Because they are still exist. Virtually unchanged. All still play their roles till today. More ceremonially in some cases. Like the Europeans documented them and brass plaques and woodwork depicted them centuries ago. The bronze casting district is a UNESCO World Heritage site. Clearly marked there by UNESCO. Go see for yourself. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 10:26am On Jul 12, 2020 |
AreaFada2: Nobody believed such rather you guys always try to propagate such to no end. How can someone clearly see Bini-Yoruba history and have the temerity to doubt even what is visible as at today 10-7-20. Distorting history to suit projection can only do harm to you guys.. When talking about people history it is outrightly baseless to call Bini empire a kind of govt and aggressive one to say. Govt has no link to people's culture but rather outrightly political issues. That been said, nothing on ground has ever laid credence to bini-igbo analysis. It is always weak analysis compared to Bini-Yoruba that has vast documented history and wide projections...the oluseguns, rotimis, obasekis, tundra, Topes didn't fall from tree...all arises from direct link and same lineage as Yorubas. Your oba sharing same with Yorubas is not a coincidence but a more solid link to yorubas.. In Igboland what exist is Obi, Eze, Igwe, Okpala-ukwu..not the other way.. Stop arguing something that is weak. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by AreaFada2: 10:32am On Jul 12, 2020 |
Osagyefo98:Your commitment to Benin matter shows you are have a complex. Outside Benin and Yoruba issue, I have no stake and no interest. So there is something special. Only something special attracts so many detractors. Benin has been X rayed by detractors who claim it is not important. They are all getting bald head about it like a bald eagle. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 11:03am On Jul 12, 2020 |
AreaFada2: As far as that myth stops circulating we are okay. Such creations are harmful to the future and future country and must never be allowed to breathe. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by AreaFada2: 5:56pm On Jul 12, 2020 |
Osagyefo98:We are saying thing o. It still confirms the obsession we are talking about. I do not for example care about details of Jukun or Kanem history, legend, myths or whatever you choose to call it. Of course like all of world history I would read it to keep expanding one's horizon. But that is it. People like you show that this generation is more bigoted than the previous generations. You dispute something but yet living evidence is there for you to see. They should disconnect all these Yaba Left internet connections with alacrity. I cannot imagine you being head of FESTAC '77 allowing the world acclaimed face of Queen Idia of Benin Empire to be its symbol. Simply because its Benin. Not from so called majority tribe. You would have concocted a mediocre WAZOBIA symbol that nobody could identify with. Just because of envy and bigotry. At this rate Benin matter will just give you heart attack one day and Benin will continue to wax ever stronger. |
Re: Why Do Edos/binis Have Yoruba & Igbo Looks by Nobody: 6:39pm On Jul 12, 2020 |
AreaFada2: Not interested in your WAZO. But any analysis Eastward shouldn't breath. |
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