orunto27:
JESUS IS THE BLUE PRINT FOR CHURCHES AND CAN NEVER FIT INTO CAMA ADAPTED FOR RIFA-RUGA ISLAMISATION FULANISATION AND ANARCHY.

helinues:
If the churches are not ready to abide by the law of the land, they should be deregistered

donnie:


Do you think the government is in position to oversee church income at this time, given the level of transparency wrt government funds.

helinues:


Should that be the right question to ask at this time...

Let's see how they will oversee church income and then we can determine the level of transparency.

No going back about this...

donnie:

BISHOP OYEDEPO: Church is run according to the pattern received from God.

donnie:


Don't you think they should put their house in order first and have some credibility?

helinues:
If the churches are not ready to abide by the law of the land, they should be deregistered

helinues:


This may be a start for them to test their credibility starting from religious houses...

Except if Both Pastors and Imams would also be in partner in discrediting the scheme...

CodeTemplar:
Corporate Affairs Commission registration doesn't connote business. It connote corporate affairs.

paxonel:

S C A M

donnie:


Are the churches not organized corporately? Okay, let's assume that they aren't. They are rigistered as Charities right? Shouldn't there be some sort of supervision to ensure that funds being collected are used for the said charitable purposes?

Don't you think this will keep business men posing as priests or pastors away from "minstry"?

donnie:


I have asked what that pattern is, no answer as yet.

donnie:

Interrsting. Did he give church leaders this blueprint?

orunto27:
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HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. THAT IS THE BLUE PRINT.

paxonel:
the pattern he is referring to is an autocratic system where pastors spend church money without the church members or the government questioning them. Is that suppose to be a pattern from God?

donnie:
Is CAMA antichurch?
What is the Church?
BISHOP OYEDEPO: Church is run according to the pattern received from God.
Question: What is this Pattern?

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helinues:
If the churches are not ready to abide by the law of the land, they should be deregistered

CodeTemplar:
Corporate Affairs Commission registration doesn't connote business. It connote corporate affairs.

donnie:
Are the churches not organized corporately? Okay, let's assume that they aren't. They are rigistered as Charities right? Shouldn't there be some sort of supervision to ensure that funds being collected are used for the said charitable purposes?

Don't you think this will keep business men posing as priests or pastors away from "minstry"?

CodeTemplar:
Funds are not collected but donated. damaged willingly. The donors are continually donating knowing what the funds are used for so what is the role of an uninvited third party - the government?

donnie:
I have asked what that pattern is, no answer as yet.

paxonel:
the pattern he is referring to is an autocratic system where pastors spend church money without the church members or the government questioning them. Is that suppose to be a pattern from God?

donnie:
Hmm

orunto27:
JESUS IS THE BLUE PRINT FOR CHURCHES AND CAN NEVER FIT INTO CAMA ADAPTED FOR RIFA-RUGA ISLAMISATION FULANISATION AND ANARCHY.

donnie:
Interrsting. Did he give church leaders this blueprint?

orunto27:
HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. THAT IS THE BLUE PRINT.

donnie:
We're talking about people's money, you're saying WAY TRUTH AND LIFE.

paxonel:
S C A M

MuttleyLaff:
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There is nothing like covenant prosperity principles, as taught by Oyedepo. It is a sham, all na wash.

Please Ranch\hoddas, tell me what director or CEO of any company has Oyedepo ever being, lol?

My guy, abeggy, no one is shifting any goal post anywhere, the truth be told, Oyedepo is prospering on the back of the sweat, tears, blood and guts of suckers, dangling a carrot, tied to a stick, and stretched out in from of them, lol.

It is Oyedepo plc, that is prospering, and if we are not going to deceive ourselves Ranch\hoddas, we would admit that not even up to 5-10% of Winners Chapel's congregation are really and truly prospering.

That percentage is me, just being, kind and generous

donnie:


Are the churches not organized corporately? Okay, let's assume that they aren't. They are rigistered as Charities right? Shouldn't there be some sort of supervision to ensure that funds being collected are used for the said charitable purposes?

Don't you think this will keep business men posing as priests or pastors away from "minstry"?

paxonel:
the pattern he is referring to is an autocratic system where pastors spend church money without the church members or the government questioning them. Is that suppose to be a pattern from God?

CodeTemplar:
Charitable is different from Charity plus the govt could have made a religious organisation status available instead of forcing the church to be registered under the forced category of "charitable organisation". It makes no sense.

CodeTemplar:
Did Jesus render annual account to his followers with what Judas kept as treasurer?

Didn't Jesus receive gifts? Didn't Paul receive gifts?

By the way, no one is forced to belong to any church so if you do not agree with how funds are spent, you can always leave instead of talking all deranged.

donnie:


The same is obtainable in other more developed countries.

CodeTemplar:
Did Jesus render annual account to his followers with what Judas kept as treasurer? Didn't Jesus receive gifts? Didn't Paul receive gifts? By the way, no one is forced to belong to any church so if you do not agree with how funds are spent, you can always leave instead of talking all deranged.

CodeTemplar:
You mean countries with homosexuality laws?

donnie:


Why not? So the the bible must write it first?
Judas must have kept records and provided same when required, reason he was TREASURER.

Tell me, was MESSIAH's group registered under government? Did they have the freedom to operate like today's churches? Did MESSIAH receive money from millions of members like we see today?

We're not even talking about the young upcoming pastors everywhere whose goal in life is to have money like Pastors Oyedepo or Oyakhilome or Adeboye. Many don't even keep records, they wire the money directly into their bank accounts or put the tithes straight into their back pockets.