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Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Philipponzaghi: 7:26am On Oct 06, 2020
Eriokanmi:
Another lagos slave spotted. Read the below and the empty promoses since 2019. Una eyes go soon clear. Noworry grin

https://www.channelstv.com/2020/09/14/ASUU-nasu-members-lock-lagos-state-university-gate-over-minimum-wage-payment/amp/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/09/lagos-agrees-to-pay-new-minimum-wage-to-lasu-laspotech-acoed-workers/amp/

https://punchng.com/lagos-promises-to-pay-minimum-wage-october/?amp=1

That’s for tertiary institutions.

Don’t you read the link you shared?

Go and read the link and you will see it stated clearly in all
Three that it is tertiary institution alone.

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Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by juniorstar(m): 7:27am On Oct 06, 2020
anonimi:


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Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Unclefemzylee: 7:35am On Oct 06, 2020
Common man can not benefit from the house ... Na man no man people fit enjoy d benefit ...
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Eriokanmi: 7:52am On Oct 06, 2020
Philipponzaghi:


That’s for tertiary institutions.

Don’t you read the link you shared?

Go and read the link and you will see it stated clearly in all
Three that it is tertiary institution alone.

Not only tertiary. LASU staff who were among the civil servants of the state used the opportunity to stage a protest when asked to resume after covid-19 on the resumption day. Minimum wage is a law. No state can approve a different wage for a different ministry in their state. It must run across board. LASU Staff are under ministry of education and the staff with the lowest cadre in every ministry would get same approved wage. The 35k would be enjoyed by all the civil servants in all ministers not only LASU that's the Labour law.

Same sanwoolu promised lagos civil servants (including state owned tertiary institutions) last year but never fulfilled it. He even approved 30k back then before increasing it to 35k. When did he commence paying the minimum wage naw? February this year, covid-19 came and march, there was lockdown which caused governemt parastatals to work part time, living on half salary. Meanwhile during the same period, obaseki paid the 30k promised, in spite of the lockdown.

My problems with you people is, you're in perpetual suffering, you even know it but would never agree.

Start reading from here when the promise was first made late last year.

https://businessday.ng/uncategorized/article/lagos-begins-payment-of-new-minimum-wage-november/amp/

https://m.guardian.ng/appointments/lagos-approves-n35000-minimum-wage-for-workers/


https://guardian.ng/news/lagos-labour-sign-new-minimum-wage-agreement/amp/

Then here when there was protest on resumption date after the covid-19 lockdown was eased...

https://www.channelstv.com/2020/09/14/ASUU-nasu-members-lock-lagos-state-university-gate-over-minimum-wage-payment/amp/

We are seriously praying for you guys because this isn't normal. How can over 20m population be under a spell but still feel comfortable?. We're praying that the juju used on you lagosians become ineffective so you could be set free.

Una mumu never do.
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by rahymrafiu(m): 7:57am On Oct 06, 2020
All thanks to the Lagos State governor, Gov.Babajide Sanwo Olu.
The housing scheme will actually increase the growth and development of Lagos State and it will be of benefit to the people.[color=#006600][/color][b][/b] cool cool

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Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 8:17am On Oct 06, 2020
ekaette1621:





oya Oga Titus,

tell us wetin you sabi

Oga pessimist, where were you when allocation of homes under LAGOSHOMS schemes made frontpage of Nairaland

Na only to shout audio audio u na sabi. When the news about lagos awarding beneficiaries of this scheme makes it out now, your type will be nowhere to be found.

If government do, na audio. if dem no do, dey're incompetent. Do you want a government to do and not do at the same time.

Na wa for you critics ooo
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 8:21am On Oct 06, 2020
Eriokanmi:
lolz. Lagos can never be edo and edo can never be lagos of course. The 30k minimum wage sanwoolu said he would start paying last month had since been implemented by obaseki in February and edo civil servants had been enjoying this ever since. FYI, there are housing projects going on here too, which nobody is making mouth about. Las las na Tinubu's owned hitech go do the job at ridiculously inflated cost, if true. Una mumu never do.

You're just a critic with nothing meaningful to contribute if not you wont sprout this nonsense angry

Lagos has been doing home schemes since the time of Fashola and we have been seeing the results. Oya show us Obaseki's own, make we see

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Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 8:21am On Oct 06, 2020
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 8:23am On Oct 06, 2020
mamaafrik:
Lagos have no business of constructing Houses ,they want to "Maradonna us" and build for houses their cronies again.
Just provide enabling infrastructure like road,Transport and pipe borne water,we have water, lagos is a cluster water distribution won't be as expensive as other states with less Population density ,call in Isrealis to Build water works near sea desalinate ,treat and distribute to house holds.
Awon arindin deede

You are the arindin here. If you don't understand the essence of the housing schemes Lagos started, why not ask and be educated instead of wailing ignorantly.

See the reasoning of someone who may probably have an opportunity to be in position of authority someday.
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 8:26am On Oct 06, 2020
dival247:

I hate when leave the fact. This housing of a thing , do u have the ideal cost of the apartment 85M AND 135M.

Oga there are also houses of 3M and 5M sold. It depends on the location. How do you expect a house built by the government in high brow areas to go for 1M because you want it to be available to the poor masses? How will the government get their gain and plough back into the system to build more houses?

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Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 8:27am On Oct 06, 2020
adewad13:
like the one they've delivered in time past....A housing scheme that a common man cannot benefit from is not regarded as mass housing.
until the lowest rank civil servant can benefit from such then it can be regarded as housing scheme.

Who are they building them for!

Oga, the past housing schemes that have been launched have been bought by other common men.

And what do you mean by the bolded

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/sanwo-olu-hands-over-492-homes-promises-affordable-mass-housing/r96wwmn
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by mamaafrik(m): 8:42am On Oct 06, 2020
Ajibel:


You are the arindin here. If you don't understand the essence of the housing schemes Lagos started, why not ask and be educated instead of wailing ignorantly.

See the reasoning of someone who may probably have an opportunity to be in position of authority someday.
I guess you are educated,oya enlighten us why Housing is better than that which i stated above.
Let's see what you are made of upstairs.
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by DaCharis2016: 8:53am On Oct 06, 2020
How can we apply?
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by miketayo(m): 8:55am On Oct 06, 2020
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Fejimummy: 9:08am On Oct 06, 2020
Philipponzaghi:


This is one of such estates that Sanwo-Olu commissioned sometimes in May this year.

https://www.nairaland.com/5888702/sanwo-olu-commissions-264-units-flats
were you abi to afford it? did they make any open offer for everyone ? last last na party members go get am
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 9:12am On Oct 06, 2020
miketayo:


Seems u don't know ur gov

Then please tell me

This mindset you're having is very wrong.

So should we now stay without a government because we don't believe they can get anything done right?
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by CertyAgroAllied: 9:12am On Oct 06, 2020
Having impact on the citizens is the major concern. Kudos to the Government
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 9:14am On Oct 06, 2020
Fejimummy:

were you abi to afford it? did they make any open offer for everyone ? last last na party members go get am

Yes they made an open offer to everyone because they have a dedicated website to it.

https://lagoshoms.lagosstate.gov.ng/

Or twitter @LagosHOMS
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by lmm4real: 9:19am On Oct 06, 2020
Philipponzaghi:
Lagos is not Edo.

God bless Sanwo-Olu for the impact he is making in Lagos State.

May APC rule Lagos for 600 years!

They are all Fashola's project. Mr governor is sha doing fantastically well.
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ken91(m): 9:40am On Oct 06, 2020
highup some weed the fucking bitches niga it could had look good, if only it was not audio
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by miketayo(m): 11:25am On Oct 06, 2020
Ajibel:


Then please tell me

This mindset you're having is very wrong.

So should we now stay without a government because we don't believe they can get anything done right?

Name one thing they have done right
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by chaloskyx: 11:36am On Oct 06, 2020
LIAR 2,268 HOUSES LIKE SERIOUSLY IF WE WERE DOING THIS EVERY YEAR WE WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HOUSING. ALSO THESE HOUSES ARE USUALLLY BOUGHT UP BY CORRUPT GOVT OFFICIALS AT EXORBITANT RATES AND RENTED OUT AND SOLD FOR PROFIT AT RATES THE AVERAGE MAN CANT AFFORD
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Bifrost: 11:54am On Oct 06, 2020
The governor of Lagos is confused.
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by adewad13(m): 12:31pm On Oct 06, 2020
Ajibel:


Oga, the past housing schemes that have been launched have been bought by other common men.

And what do you mean by the bolded

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/sanwo-olu-hands-over-492-homes-promises-affordable-mass-housing/r96wwmn

I need some detailed explanation on this...pls how can someone who earns between 30-40k monthly afford a house of 2-4 million. How please?
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 12:42pm On Oct 06, 2020
adewad13:


I need some detailed explanation on this...pls how can someone who earns between 30-40k monthly afford a house of 2-4 million. How please?

Via mortgage. They spread the payment for about 5-10 years. You don't need to pay at once. Just maybe a 15% down payment then you'll pay the balance for a certain number of months till you complete it. That's what LagosHOMS is all about
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by rafcrown(m): 12:50pm On Oct 06, 2020
I believe him only when he is pointing at something or raising his hand.
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Eriokanmi: 2:45pm On Oct 06, 2020
Ajibel:


You're just a critic with nothing meaningful to contribute if not you wont sprout this nonsense angry

Lagos has been doing home schemes since the time of Fashola and we have been seeing the results. Oya show us Obaseki's own, make we see
Obaseki own na the real housing scheme with 24-hour power supply, unlike what you had in place. This had been in place since early this year and the project is ongoing already, not to talk of those he started last year.

Fashola even tried and it was because he didn't agree with tinubu on many terms, the decision which made tinubu try to prevent him from doing 2nd term but failed cos lagosians had been expecting him to defect to another party and that would have been the end of tinubu in lagos because they were planning to vote him overwhelmingly, had tinubu dropped him. This got him scared and made him leave fashola alone. He hated fashola so much that he didn't want to nominate him as minister but baba said he preferred fashola to work with him. Obaseki housing scheme no be the one hitech go take siphon money from lagos pocket all in the name of providing affordable housing by building a housing unit at the cost of 3.

Edo's project na robust one as it includes an industrial park. It is ongoing already. The popupar Emotan Gardens is one of them. Come and see for yourself obaseki no dey make noise, 18 of such estates in Benin alone with each having over 700 units. All when put together would surpass what sanwoolu is shouting upandan about . These poppets are jokers

Oya, read the below...

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/05/obasekis-affordable-housing-plan-opens-edos-real-estate-sector-private-developers/amp/

http://www.edostate.gov.ng/obasekis-affordable-housing-emotan-gardens-first-phase-of-86-units-ready-by-year-end-edpa-boss/

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/03/27/obasekis-housing-reforms-edpa-iron-projects-seal-deal-for-18-unit-luxury-housing-devt-in-benin/amp/
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 3:17pm On Oct 06, 2020
Eriokanmi:
Obaseki own na the real housing scheme with 24-hour power supply, unlike what you had in place. This had been in place since early this year and the project is ongoing already, not to talk of those he started last year.

Fashola even tried and it was because he didn't agree with tinubu on many terms, the decision which made tinubu try to prevent him from doing 2nd term but failed cos lagosians had been expecting him to defect to another party and that would have been the end of tinubu in lagos because they were planning to vote him overwhelmingly, had tinubu dropped him. This got him scared and made him leave fashola alone. He hated fashola so much that he didn't want to nominate him as minister but baba said he preferred fashola to work with him. Obaseki housing scheme no be the one hitech go take siphon money from lagos pocket all in the name of providing affordable housing by building a housing unit at the cost of 3.

Edo's project na robust one as it includes an industrial park. It is ongoing already. The popupar Emotan Gardens is one of them. Come and see for yourself obaseki no dey make noise, 18 of such estates in Benin alone with each having over 700 units. All when put together would surpass what sanwoolu is shouting upandan about . These poppets are jokers

Oya, read the below...

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/05/obasekis-affordable-housing-plan-opens-edos-real-estate-sector-private-developers/amp/

http://www.edostate.gov.ng/obasekis-affordable-housing-emotan-gardens-first-phase-of-86-units-ready-by-year-end-edpa-boss/

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/03/27/obasekis-housing-reforms-edpa-iron-projects-seal-deal-for-18-unit-luxury-housing-devt-in-benin/amp/


This is a nice development from the Obaseki-led Edo state government. And this isn't different from LagosHOMS. So I don't understand why tackle Lagos scheme and praise Edo's scheme

The problem I have is that some of you folks on this thread will want me to believe Edo's scheme is the real deal, while that of Lagos is not, simply because you dislike Tinubu. Someone has even said the housing delivery is audio meanwhile they won't call Edo state's own audio.

I understand the bias. It's Tinubu that is the problem. So even if Sanwo-olu delivers 50,000 housing scheme before the endo of 2021, u an go still call am audio grin

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/sanwo-olu-delivers-1576-new-houses-promises-affordable-mortgage/jkqvfec
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Eriokanmi: 3:45pm On Oct 06, 2020
Ajibel:


This is a nice development from the Obaseki-led Edo state government. And this isn't different from LagosHOMS. So I don't understand why tackle Lagos scheme and praise Edo's scheme

The problem I have is that some of you folks on this thread will want me to believe Edo's scheme is the real deal, while that of Lagos is not, simply because you dislike Tinubu. Someone has even said the housing delivery is audio meanwhile they won't call Edo state's own audio.

I understand the bias. It's Tinubu that is the problem. So even if Sanwo-olu delivers 50,000 housing scheme before the endo of 2021, u an go still call am audio grin

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/sanwo-olu-delivers-1576-new-houses-promises-affordable-mortgage/jkqvfec

grin Not so bro. Am sure you saw where I praised Fahola. He did well, likewise ambode. May Pa jakande's legacy never die, the man who could have afforded a private jet and established a company to siphon lagos money in his time, given his brilliant achievement but never did.. No governor in the history of Africa had beaten the set housing record till date. I was raised in lagos so I know. You must do your best by resting Tinubu's political relevance in that state else, nothing much would be achieved and that's the truth. I wouldn't blame those calling the housing scheme audio because the puppets at the helms won't be allowed to achieve anything meaningful in lagos by the godfather. They must take instructions from tinubu and that's where the problems lie. They called it audio because several initiatives of such had been launched since sanwoolu took office but were later abandoned. Go to the lagos waterways transport and see if it's functional, despite all the noise made by him when he csme, even invited media to cover it and it was in the news for weeks. Those local canoes and archaic ferries wouldn't stop wasting people's lives in various routes on lagis ocean.

Last year, sanwoolu said he was ready to pay the 30k minimum wage from November till now, nothing had been done. He even increased it to 35k... ati 30k oo, ati 35k oo, nothing was fulfilled. Just last month, LASU staff blocked the entrance of the institution in protest of non-implenentation of the minimum wage...just last month when he asked LASU to resume. Meanwhile, obaseki had been paying his civil servants the 30k since February this year, not minding the covid-19 pandemic lockdown. Check it bro. That's why people also see this as audio. Ambode, because he resufed to share lagos money, was able to achieve so much in almost one and half years of his administration. Sanwoolu can't point to one single achievement he had made in his almost one and half years in office. This time during ambode's administration, roads had been constructed, bridges including abule egba millennium ridge had been delivered ahead of schedule, etc. All we see in this govt is demolition of lekki and Allen round about monuments all in the name of beautification just to embezzle. Same sanwoolu claimed his govt was spending btw 100k and 1m naira to treat just one covid-19 patient daily grin. I wonder which drugs and manners was he giving them.. fight for your right bro. Lagos can be free.

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Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 4:20pm On Oct 06, 2020
Eriokanmi:
grin Not so bro. Am sure you saw where I praised Fahola. He did well, likewise ambode. May Pa jakande's legacy never die, the man who could have afforded a private jet and established a company to siphon lagos money in his time, given his brilliant achievement but never did.. No governor in the history of Africa had beaten the set housing record till date. I was raised in lagos so I know. You must do your best by resting Tinubu's political relevance in that state else, nothing much would be achieved and that's the truth. I wouldn't blame those calling the housing scheme audio because the puppets at the helms won't be allowed to achieve anything meaningful in lagos by the godfather. They must take instructions from tinubu and that's where the problems lie. They called it audio because several initiatives of such had been launched since sanwoolu took office but were later abandoned. Go to the lagos waterways transport and see if it's functional, despite all the noise made by him when he csme, even invited media to cover it and it was in the news for weeks. Those local canoes and archaic ferries wouldn't stop wasting people's lives in various routes on lagis ocean.

Last year, sanwoolu said he was ready to pay the 30k minimum wage from November till now, nothing had been done. He even increased it to 35k... ati 30k oo, ati 35k oo, nothing was fulfilled. Just last month, LASU staff blocked the entrance of the institution in protest of non-implenentation of the minimum wage...just last month when he asked LASU to resume. Meanwhile, obaseki had been paying his civil servants the 30k since February this year, not minding the covid-19 pandemic lockdown. Check it bro. That's why people also see this as audio. Ambode, because he resufed to share lagos money, was able to achieve so much in almost one and half years of his administration. Sanwoolu can't point to one single achievement he had made in his almost one and half years in office. This time during ambode's administration, roads had been constructed, bridges including abule egba millennium ridge had been delivered ahead of schedule, etc. All we see in this govt is demolition of lekki and Allen round about monuments all in the name of beautification just to embezzle. Same sanwoolu claimed his govt was spending btw 100k and 1m naira to treat just one covid-19 patient daily grin. I wonder which drugs and manners was he giving them.. fight for your right bro. Lagos can be free.

Yea I saw where you praised Fashola, BRF na baba, no be there mate. But sanwo-olu has continued from the legacy of BRF. Many people don't notice that because it's overshowed by the hate they have for Tinubu. You can't on one hand say Sanwo-olu is doing nothing meanwhile you've either blocked or you're not following the state's government's handles on social media.
Personally because I want to stay informed and not be misled by trolls like anonimi, I created a twitter lists for all lagos state MDAs to get updated on what the state is doing and boy, they're doing their best! https://twitter.com/i/lists/1313354512820842497

I don't agree with the part you say you have to wrest political control from Tinubu. There was something Fashola said one time when he was asked the secret to his success while In office, and he mentioned that he focused on governance while Tinubu, his mentor helped him handle the political affairs. And this is the truth, most governors are distracted today from the affairs of governance because they're also neck-deep in politics. Government policies mostly have political repercussions, that's why someone like Tinubu is still relevant in the affairs of Lagos, but note this, Tinubu is nothing without his followers. They trust his judgments, they listen to him and he also listens to them (that's why Ambode isn't a governor today). Of course, I don't always agree with his style because he doesn't seem to respect that every tribe has their cultural peculiarities, that's why he made that bad move of granting the press conference before the edo election.

Now, you made some untrue claims. There hasn't been any of the housing schemes that has been abandoned by Sanwo-olu. I think you're not properly informed that's why you have made this submission. He has launched some schemes and like this thread has reported, he plans to launch some more before the end of the year. I don't see how that should be called an abandonment.

Ahh, the lagos waterways transport is very functional now. Please go to twitter and visit the handle @Lagferry, they're very updated there. You can see, this is another misinformation I'm referring to here. The local canoes and ferries are operated by the private operators. The ones you see in this thread created by naptu2 are operated by lagos state https://www.nairaland.com/5669189/sanwoolu-launches-lagos-ferrys-commercial and their activities are being regulated by Lagos state waterways authority @TalkToLaswa is their handle on twitter and they're active.

As per the minimum wage own, honestly i cant make a comment on that because I don't have much info on it.

Sanwo-olu can point to some achievements during his 1year + as a governor. His main focus has been completing all inherited and abandoned projects in Lagos. I can see you're not aware of the huge amounts of projects he inherited. Would you advise a progressive governor to leave the projects he inherited to start a new one so that he can be seen as having an achievement? Should he abandon the red line and blue line rail and start a purple line so that it can be seen that he started and completed a project C'mon!
Re: Sanwo-Olu: Lagos To Deliver 2,268 Housing Units From 7 Schemes This Year by Ajibel(m): 4:23pm On Oct 06, 2020
Unclefemzylee:
Common man can not benefit from the house ... Na man no man people fit enjoy d benefit ...

That's a lie, read this

https://thenationonlineng.net/allottees-hail-lagoshoms-initiative/

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