https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ljFFokh4U

Published on Jan 15, 2019
Watchtower prohibits all manner of practices, customs and holidays for Jehovah's Witnesses, claiming that these practices have "pagan" origins. However, there are many things that are clearly "pagan" (non-Christian) in origin that Jehovah's Witnesses are permitted to engage in. Here's my top 5 "pagan" things Jehovah's Witnesses actively engage in.

rottennaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ljFFokh4U

Published on Jan 15, 2019
Watchtower prohibits all manner of practices, customs and holidays for Jehovah's Witnesses, claiming that these practices have "pagan" origins. However, there are many things that are clearly "pagan" (non-Christian) in origin that Jehovah's Witnesses are permitted to engage in. Here's my top 5 "pagan" things Jehovah's Witnesses actively engage in.

THRASHY thread.
Marriage originates from Jehovah.

Rott Wailer is so deluded
That's akin to claiming that because Egyptian temples had ornaments , for your deluded mind, the use of ornaments in Jehovah's temple amounts to idolatry
Bros, you get SENSE?

Rott Wailer loves pagans so much and he's so deluded to believe that use of ornaments is the exclusive preserve of his pagan friends.

Janosky:


[s]THRASHY thread.
Marriage originates from Jehovah.

Rott Wailer is so deluded
That's akin to claiming that because Egyptian temples had ornaments , for your deluded mind, the use of ornaments in Jehovah's temple amounts to idolatry
Bros, you get SENSE?

Rott Wailer loves pagans so much and he's so deluded to believe that use of ornaments is the exclusive preserve of his pagan friends. [/s]

The video above listed 5 Pagan Practices adopted and used by JWs.
- Exchange of Wedding Rings
- Wedding cakes
- Flowers on Graves
- Wind Chimes
- Watchtower Logo
If JWs were to apply the same justifications for forbidding Christmas, Birthday and New Celebration to the above practices, JW members would not be engaging in them…

Fallacies
When presenting an argument, one can do so in an honest, principled and genuine way. On the other hand, there are dishonest, unprincipled and artificial methods of argumentation. A fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning or wrong moves in the construction of an argument. It is a reasoning that is logically incorrect which undermines the logical validity of an argument and is recognized as unsound.

I want to take a look of some of the common fallacies and how you use in this post…

The Red Herring Fallacy.
In this fallacy, the arguer tries to sidetrack his/her audience by raising an irrelevant issue and then claims that the original issue has effectively been settled by the irrelevant diversion.

Example:
Someone employing this fallacy says that “there is a good deal of talk these days about the need to eliminate pesticides from our fruits and vegetables. But many of these foods are essential to our health. Carrots are an excellent source of vitamin A, broccoli is rich in iron, and oranges and grapefruits have lots of Vitamin C.”

This is red herring. He tries to sidetrack the audience from main issue by raising irrelevant issues. Plans to eliminate/reduce pesticides probably don’t entail stopping the production of common vegetables: the arguer’s suggestion that they do is an irrelevant red herring.

The Strawman Fallacy
In this fallacy, the arguer distorts/caricatures an opponent’s arguments or views, and then attacks the weakened version rather than the real argument.

Example:
Margaret says: “We have to do something about greenhouse gases. The government should raise vehicle fuel efficiency standards to cut down the amount of CO2 we release over the next 20 years”.

Roger Says: “Margaret’s solution would be a disaster. It would kill the economy. How would people get to work without cars?”

Roger reasoning is fallacious because he claims that Margaret is proposing measures that would eliminate cars. Margaret has not said anything equivalent to that but rather improving on standards of vehicle efficiency to cut down CO2 emissions which would come at a price for the manufacturing company. This is a strawman argument. Roger misrepresentation Margaret opposing arguments, in the place of the real point at issue.

The Ad Hominem or ‘At the Person’ Fallacy.
In this fallacy, the arguer rejects the opponent’s argument by attacking the person rather than evaluating their argument on its merits.

Example:
Someone Writes to the Editor of a new media, “Dear Editor, The current campaign against combining drinking with driving is terrorizing law-abiding people. Many law-abiding people are cutting their alcohol consumption because they are afraid of being caught by random breath testing. But research shows that the average drink-driver in a fatal accident has an average blood alcohol level of more than twice the legal limit. The current campaign against drinking and driving is failing to achieve what should be our top priority; getting the heavy and hardened drinkers off the road.”- Douglas Myers. CEO, Dominion Breweries.

Another Writes to the same Editor “Dear Editor, I read Doug Myer’s letter yesterday but he is the CEO of a major brewing company! He has a vested interest in keeping alcohol sales up, and the anti-drink-driving campaign threatens to reduce alcohol sales. We shouldn’t take any notice of his views about drinking and driving”.

The above illustrate the seriousness of this flawed reasoning. If Myer has given arguments in favour of his view, it should be evaluated like any other argument – are they valid? strong? sound? cogent? – rather than writing them off because of facts about him.

Faulty Analogy
In this fallacy, similarities exist but not the kind needed to prove the conclusions argued for.

Example:
Someone says: I need a new car. My last three cars have all been reliable, and they were blue. So, I’m going to buy a blue car.

A letter to the editor following a report someone had been turned away from an after-hours medical clinic because she couldn’t pay for treatment for her feverish, vomiting child: “Why do people attend private clinics for medical treatment with insufficient funds to cover fees? Do these same people go to the petrol station, fill up, toss $5 out the window and say “I’ll be back with the rest later,” or perhaps after dining out one evening, pay for the meal and promise to return next week, month or year to pay for the wine? I think not. The answer is simple – don’t go to private clinics.”

Are visits to after-hours medical clinics with a sick child analogous to visits to a gas station or a restaurant?

Janosky Employs Red Herring, Ad Hominem, Straw Man, Faulty Analogies

What are the reasons JWs forbid Christmas/Easter/Birthday?
- pagan origin, (that true worshippers should not have anything to do with paganism)
- not base on the bible or of divine origin
- no servant of God did it
- not having any sharing with anything that may have unchristian root

The video explores the pagan origin of wedding rings exchange in marriages and wedding cakes practices not marriages in particular. On meticulous scrutinize, the reasoning for the prohibition of Christmas/Easter/Birthday customs also exists for use of Wedding Cakes and Exchange of Wedding Rings (Let’s limit ourselves to these two).

Exchange of Wedding Rings and use of Wedding Cakes are of:
- pagan origin, (going by JWs logic, true worshippers should not have anything to do with paganism)
-customs sanctified by their adoption by the church the same way Christmas/Easter/Birthday were.
- customs not base on the bible/of divine origin. God/Jesus never commanded his faithful worshippers/disciples to do any of these
- customs no servant of God in the old or new testament engaged in.
- customs not true Christians should have not sharing with since they are of unchristian root

The video only focuses on their pagan origin and their non-Biblical traditions connected with religious rites with superstitious practices related to spiritism. However, the same justifications used in the prohibitions of Christmas/Easter/Birthday also holds true for exchange of wedding rings and use of wedding cakes.

This is the key point. The justifications for the prohibition of one these holds true for the others.

[center]NB: It has to be noted and stated clearly that in many places around the world, marriages are perform without the two practices of exchange wedding rings and use of wedding cakes. The lack of these practices would not invalidate the sacred bond of marriage nor would it mean that marriages did not originate from God.[/center]

Probably not necessarily resulting from a conscious decision from himself, perhaps born of a subconscious realization that the proof is not as strong as he might wish, that the counter-arguments are strong. Janosky not necessarily trying to convince readers; perhaps without realizing it, trying to convince himself resorted to deceptive reasoning, reasoning meant to manipulates the minds of readers, even his own. Quite possible due to the desire to be “loyal” to the position and doctrine of his mother organization cause the mind to develop reasoning that is not sound in order to shore up the position argued for.

While the video explores the non-biblical roots of these practices, without analyzing the video for its accuracy/validity of the point raised; and probably to discourage others from doing so, Janosky without began with an Ad Hominem attack on the person (post) “THRASHY thread” and then retorted with a Straw Man’s argument “Marriage originates from Jehovah”. He hopes that by calling the post thrashy, this would dissuade others from carrying their independent research/analysis. With the employ of the Straw Man, he distorts the main or real argument on an particular aspect of the marriage rituals (pagan origin of exchange of wedding rings/use of wedding cakes) and then attacks the weakened version (marriage) which was not the point raised.

He then throws another Ad Hominem attack “Rott Wailer [rottennaija] is so deluded”. The attack has no relations with the topic, but somehow, he hopes that name-calling will stick, that the readers will be distracted by the red herring of “Marriage originates from Jehovah” while the argument of the pagan origin of wedding ring, cake practices are ignored, of course he ignored the mention of these completely.

Adopting the methods of his mother organization, Janosky introduces fallacy of false analogy by positing “That's akin to claiming that because Egyptian temples had ornaments… the use of ornaments in Jehovah's temple amounts to idolatry grin cheesy”. Of course, mixed with Ad Hominem personal attacks of “for your deluded mind” and “Bros, you get SENSE?”

The JW organization argues in the same direction in an attempt to avoid raised issues related to wedding rings/cakes. While acknowledging the pagan root of these popular marriage customs, they claim their pagan origin does not really matter “but whether they were originally used as part of false religious practices and still retain such religious significance." The facts are; aside form their pagan customs, they were originally used as part of false religious practices with superstitious practices/believes related to spiritism, but they do not retain such religious significance today.

The justification used to ignore the use popular marriage customs as wedding rings/cakes quickly evaporates when birthdays, easter and Christmas are considered. All these celebrations have pagan roots, was used as part of false religious practices with superstitious practices/believes related to spiritism. But do they still retain such religious significance today? Janosky and its mother organization ignore answers to these.

Janosky's use of Irrelevant Comparison or False Analogy can be seen in his exchange of pagan origin of customs/practices with usage. While conveniently ignoring its pagan origin, including the false religious practices with superstitious practices/believes related to spiritism, he said that the post is akin to claiming that because one group uses "ornaments", then it would a sin, idolatry for another to use same. The irrelevance of this comparison is not whether ones’ group use of something prompt a prohibition of another group from using it, but the pagan origin of it. Or will his irrelevant comparison now excuse JWs in designing cross symbol in their cloths, even if it were not worshipped or use in any part of worship? Or will it now excuse Jws to purchase earrings and necklaces with the cross symbol without having to feel guilt over it?

As has been repeated many times, the very reasons JWs prohibits popular customs is not because others religious groups use it. Many religious groups had pioneered the use of tele-evangelism, use of websites for dissemination of religious information, use of zoom for meetings, sound instrument among many others before the JWs employ the use of these modern-day technology heavily today. The very use of these by the JWs in itself does not constitute a sin nor an idolatry. But the very reason they prohibit these popular customs is because they chose to scrutinize meticulously their origin and use same as the basis for its rejection and its prohibitions.

Employing its deceptive reasoning, Janosky diverts attention from the meticulous scrutiny of its pagan origin to use of similar items between different religious group even while it’s obvious that its pagan origin, it links to false religious practices with superstitious practices/believes related to spiritism was the main contention.

HYPROCRITICAL POSITION IN PRACTICE
You must not have in your bag two different stone weights, a large one and a small one. You must not have in your house two different measuring containers, a large one and a small one. You should keep an accurate and honest weight and an accurate and honest measure, so that you will live long in the land that Jehovah your God is giving you. For every unjust person who does such things is detestable to Jehovah your God. - Deuteronomy 25:13-16

All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean. – Mt 7:12

Dishonest weights are detestable to Jehovah, And deceptive scales are not good. - Proverbs 20:23

Dishonest scales are detestable to Jehovah, But an accurate weight brings pleasure to him. - Proverbs 11:1

The bible verses above offer sound moral principles when making doctrinal proclamations, especially ones that has life and death implications. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Awake! article of 2000, January 8, pages 27 provided these justifications for adopting these two pagan practices “But what about customs that may once have been linked to questionable practices but that today are primarily viewed as social etiquette? For example, many popular wedding customs—including the exchanging of rings and the eating of cake—may have pagan origins. Does this mean that Christians are forbidden to observe such customs? Are Christians required to scrutinize meticulously each custom of the community to see whether somewhere or at some time it had negative connotations?”

Notice how the WT writer tries to minimize the implications with the use of the expression “customs that may once have been linked to questionable practices”. Using the same sly wordings, one can say that popular customs like Christmas and birthday may have a one-time been linked to questionable practices. The WT writer argues that these practices may have had pagan origin. As historically proven, there is no may about it, the practices clearly had a pagan origin.

The Awake! article continues “Paul points out that “where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.” (2 Corinthians 3:17; James 1:25) God wants us to use this freedom, not as an inducement for selfish cravings, but to train our perceptive powers to distinguish right from wrong. (Galatians 5:13; Hebrews 5:14; 1 Peter 2:16) Hence, in a matter where there is no clear violation of Bible principles, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not create a hard-and-fast rule. Instead, each Christian must weigh the circumstances at hand and make a personal decision.”

There were no clear bible principles against Birthday and Christmas until the WT created them. There is non against Wedding Rings/cakes unless the WT is willing to create them. While there no clear bible principles against the use of the Gregorian Calendar named after pagan gods, the WT tried to create some but later abandoned the ridiculous idea. If they had persisted, JWs would be avoiding Gregorian Calendars as a plague.


Abandoned Watchtower Calendar For Lack Of Practicality

To avoid sounding as a hypocrite in justifying these pagan practices, the WT writer is presented the above argument. If clear bible principles were violated in adoption of pagan celebration of Christmas, Easter, Birthday and New Year, the same clear principles are violated in the adoption of Pagan practices of Wedding Cakes, Exchange of Wedding Rings etc. If no clear bible principles were violated in wedding rings and cakes, no such principles exist for Christmas, Birthday, Easter and New Year celebrations.

If Christians were required to scrutinize meticulously Christmas, Easter, Birthday and New Year Celebrations and based on such scrutiny deemed them “non-Biblical traditions connected with religious holidays … or with superstitious practices related to spiritism”; then Christians are should be expected to scrutinize meticulously customs/traditions such as exchange of Wedding Rings, Wedding Cakes, Flowers on Graves, Wind Chimes and the use of Watchtower Logo which are clearly of pagan origin connected with religious superstitious practices.

WT publication, What Has Religion Done for Mankind? (1951), pages 276, 277, quotes Catholic cardinal Newman as saying:

“The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, perhaps the ecclesiastical chant, and the [song] Kyrie Eleison [Lord, have mercy], are all of pagan origin, and sanctified by their adoption into the Church." - Pages 355, 371, 373, Edition of 1881.”

Watchtower 1972 January 15 p.63 Questions from Readers says: "Even if it were a fact that pagans first used wedding rings, would that rule such out for Christians? Not necessarily. Many of today's articles of clothing and aspects of life originated in pagan lands… Really, the question is not so much whether wedding rings were first used by pagans but whether they were originally used as part of false religious practices and still retain such religious significance.”

Watchtower of February 15, 2007, page 30 says: “the wedding ring at one time had religious significance. Yet, most people today do not know that, considering a wedding ring a mere evidence that someone is married.”

WT quotes Hitler as writing “The intelligence of the masses is small. Their forgetfulness is great. They must be told the same thing a thousand times.” JWs are indoctrinated repeated to scrutinize and place intense emphasis on the pagan origin of Christmas, Birthday, Easter, New Year celebrations. They are to scrutinize meticulously these celebrations while Watch Tower organization simply glosses over this in other areas as demonstrated above.

New Year, Christmas and Birthdays has nothing to do with God's arrangement like bond between a legally married couple (Marriage) remembrance of such sweet union (wedding anniversary) and so many that brings glory to our Creator Sir! Philippians 4:8 compared to 1Thessalonians 5:21

rottennaija:


How about New Year? Christmas? Birthday?

MaxInDHouse:
New Year, Christmas and Birthdays has nothing to do with God's arrangement like bond between a legally married couple (Marriage) remembrance of such sweet union (wedding anniversary) and so many that brings glory to our Creator Sir! Philippians 4:8 compared to 1Thessalonians 5:21

Wonderful

Janosky:


So,you want to know more?

Just run to your JW parents home and beg them to teach you and show it to you from your KJV Bible

Charity begins at home, you hear !

For your deluded mind, you think say you fit cancel out The truth wey give you sifia pains

Deluded. Mormon. Pagan. Na your mouth them all commot.

Great!
Gradually we're getting to that stage when each of us will become perfect and nobody will teach anybody what to do {Jeremiah 31:34} for now we're still holding the skirt of spiritual Jews {Zechariah 8:23} So we are growing to maturity but until then we must continue taking instructions from Christ's brothers!

rottennaija:


Wonderful

MaxInDHouse:
New Year, Christmas and Birthdays has nothing to do with God's arrangement like bond between a legally married couple (Marriage) remembrance of such sweet union (wedding anniversary) and so many that brings glory to our Creator Sir! Philippians 4:8 compared to 1Thessalonians 5:21

So marriage originated from Jehovah but not new day, new month new year. Child birth didn't originate from Jehovah and celebrations did not originate from him?

Can you please quote a place in the Bible where God asked his people to mark either
New day,
New month or
New year?

Of course people rejoice at the safe delivery of a pregnant woman and the birth of a new life so we can rejoice forever and ever that we are alive, setting up a particular day is what God's people avoid back then and JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are following their footsteps.

So please present a scripture where God's people (our people) celebrates any of those things before JEHOVAH and trust JWs we will adopt the things people who worshiped our God acceptably practiced in ancient times!

rottennaija:

So marriage originated from Jehovah but not new day, new month new year. Child birth didn't originate from Jehovah and celebrations did not originate from him?

MaxInDHouse:
Can you please quote a place in the Bible where God asked his people to mark either
New day,
New month or
New year?

Of course people rejoice at the safe delivery of a pregnant woman and the birth of a new life so we can rejoice forever and ever that we are alive, setting up a particular day is what God's people avoid back then and JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are following their footsteps.

So please present a scripture where God's people (our people) celebrates any of those things before JEHOVAH and trust JWs we will adopt the things people who worshiped our God acceptably practiced in ancient times !

@bolded question, there is none. Yet we acknowledge that God is the source of these.

On the same vein, let me ask you, can you show in the bible where God commanded wedding rings to exchange or examples of exchange of wedding rings in the bible.

Can you also please show in the bible where wedding anniversary or wedding cakes are done at any Christian or Jewish wedding (when they had God's favour) or where God commanded wedding anniversary or exchange of wedding rings?

Can you please show where God commanded his people to avoid setting aside particular day for celebrating their birth? Can you please show on the bible where God's people avoided setting aside a particular day for celebrating their birth?

Can you please also show where God's people use or set up a large corporation and set up websites and electronic media and use videos?

Janosky:


THRASHY thread.
Marriage originates from Jehovah.

Rott Wailer is so deluded
That's akin to claiming that because Egyptian temples had ornaments , for your deluded mind, the use of ornaments in Jehovah's temple amounts to idolatry
Bros, you get SENSE?

Rott Wailer loves pagans so much and he's so deluded to believe that use of ornaments is the exclusive preserve of his pagan friends.

What's JW policy on Christmas and birthdays?

LordReed:


What's JW policy on Christmas and birthdays?

Genesis 40:20. Matthew 14:6. .
Christmas/birthday celebrations is for pagans. Servants of Jehovah SHUN it.. Galatians 4:8-11.

This man in the screenshot found out in spite of the hypocrisy of his notable slave on NL, who celebrate their Boss birthday

Janosky:

Genesis 40:20. Matthew 14:6. .
Christmas/birthday celebrations is for pagans. Servants of Jehovah SHUN it.. Galatians 4:8-11.

This man in the screenshot found out in spite of the hypocrisy of his notable slave on NL, who celebrate their Boss birthday

LMAO! The irony is lost on you I guess.

LordReed:


LMAO! The irony is lost on you I guess.

"The fact that our midwinter festival was renamed after Jesus does not mean Christians own it"
Jillian Baginni,Self professed Card-carrying Atheist & Columnist, the Guardian (UK),
24 , December,2017.

Your fellow Atheist says Christmas no be Christianity property..
Bros, na so ?

With the highlighted i'm now fully convinced that you are not open for reasoning, no wonder you're this bitter!

rottennaija:


@bolded question, there is none. Yet we acknowledge that God is the source of these.

On the same vein, let me ask you, can you show in the bible where God commanded wedding rings to exchange or examples of exchange of wedding rings in the bible.

Can you also please show in the bible where wedding anniversary or wedding cakes are done at any Christian or Jewish wedding (when they had God's favour) or where God commanded wedding anniversary or exchange of wedding rings?

Can you please show where God commanded his people to avoid setting aside particular day for celebrating their birth? Can you please show on the bible where God's people avoided setting aside a particular day for celebrating their birth?

Can you please also show where God's people use or set up a large corporation and set up websites and electronic media and use videos?

MaxInDHouse:
With the highlighted i'm now fully convinced that you are not open for reasoning, no wonder you're this bitter!

Below was what you wrote MaxInDHouse...

MaxInDHouse post=97249101:
Can you please quote a place in the Bible where God asked his people to mark either
New day,
New month or
New year?

Of course people rejoice at the safe delivery of a pregnant woman and the birth of a new life so we can rejoice forever and ever that we are alive, setting up a particular day is what God's people avoid back then and JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are following their footsteps.

So please present a scripture where God's people (our people) celebrates any of those things before JEHOVAH and trust JWs we will adopt the things people who worshiped our God acceptably practiced in ancient times !

And I responded that @bolded question, there is none. Yet we acknowledge that God is the source of these.

Now, I am going to removed what seemed like a a roadblock to you... Please. Kindly respond to the following.
Based on your post above where you asked if I can point to the bible where God asked his people to celebrate any of those whom you mentioned to which I responded with a No. Can you please answer...

can you show in the bible where God commanded wedding rings to exchange or examples of exchange of wedding rings in the bible.

Can you also please show in the bible where wedding anniversary or wedding cakes are done at any Christian or Jewish wedding (when they had God's favour) or where God commanded wedding anniversary or exchange of wedding rings?

Can you please show where God commanded his people to avoid setting aside particular day for celebrating their birth? Can you please show on the bible where God's people avoided setting aside a particular day for celebrating their birth?

rottennaija:

And I responded that @bolded question, there is none. Yet we acknowledge that God is the source of these.

Now, I am going to removed what seemed like a a roadblock to you... Please. Kindly respond to the following.
Based on your post above where you asked if I can point to the bible where God asked his people to celebrate any of those whom you mentioned to which I responded with a No. Can you please answer...

can you show in the bible where God commanded wedding rings to exchange or examples of exchange of wedding rings in the bible.

@ Philippians 4:8 God's word admonished us to continue considering whatever things that are
©True
©Of serious concern
©Righteous
©Chaste
©Lovable
©Well spoken of
©Virtuous
©Praiseworthy
Christians aren't bound by the old covenant laws {Romans 10:4} we are selective with wisdom to know what we should or shouldn't do. Hebrew 5:14

The wedding band is of serious concern, righteous, virtuous and praiseworthy to us because it goes along with the purpose of JEHOVAH the one who initiated a lasting bond between a man and his wife. So true Christians will consider such praiseworthy custom!

Can you also please show in the bible where wedding anniversary or wedding cakes are done at any Christian or Jewish wedding (when they had God's favour) or where God commanded wedding anniversary or exchange of wedding rings?

My response above takes care of this!

Can you please show where God commanded his people to avoid setting aside particular day for celebrating their birth? Can you please show on the bible where God's people avoided setting aside a particular day for celebrating their birth?

The Birthday is a day any parent would like to remember, that's the day they got a precious gift from God {Psalms 127:3; Isaiah 9:6a} but for the person who was born NO it's not worth considering! {Jeremiah 15:10, 20:14} because that's the beginning of suffering and hardship until the day a man is able to swim through all that sin caused, if you successfully completed the journey without blemish, and that's the day of death! Ecclesiastes 7:1
That's why none of God's servants thought of the celebration of birth. Our Master, Lord and King Jesus of Nazareth attended a wedding ceremony so whatever custom is in support of that bond of union is praiseworthy. But neither his parents, himself nor his disciples thought of his birthday!

The birthday can never bring anything good! Because the celebrant's line of thought that very day centers on his personal achievements which is of no value before God {Jeremiah 9:23-24 compared to 1 Corinthians 1:31; 2Corinthian 10:17} that's why the two birthday celebrants mentioned in God's word didn't think of anything virtuous, chaste or praiseworthy during the events! Genesis 40:20-22 compared to Matthew 14:6-12
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES give serious thoughts to these two events! Just think of it Why is it that it's the first two books that opens the Old and New Testament where these tragic events were mentioned? Well if it means nothing to you or Churchgoers JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES believe it's a sign of warning! 1Thessalonian 5:21

May you have PEACE!

Janosky:


"The fact that our midwinter festival was renamed after Jesus does not mean Christians own it"
Jillian Baginni,Self professed Card-carrying Atheist & Columnist, the Guardian (UK),
24 , December,2017.

Your fellow Atheist says Christmas no be Christianity property..
Bros, na so ?

LoL. Maybe look up the meaning of irony and also hypocrisy while you are at it.

rottennaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ljFFokh4U

Published on Jan 15, 2019
Watchtower prohibits all manner of practices, customs and holidays for Jehovah's Witnesses, claiming that these practices have "pagan" origins. However, there are many things that are clearly "pagan" (non-Christian) in origin that Jehovah's Witnesses are permitted to engage in. Here's my top 5 "pagan" things Jehovah's Witnesses actively engage in.

Continue the good work. All I understand is that the very thing they accuse others, themselves are into it.

Janosky:


So,you want to know more?

Just run to your JW parents home and beg them to teach you and show it to you from your KJV Bible ( e no dey your Mormon Bible )

Charity begins at home, you hear !

For your deluded mind, you think say you fit cancel out The truth wey give you sifia pains

I don't have JW parents, so I want to knowmore from nairaland GB...

Christmas/birthday, new year celebration, etc, are they exclusive rights to pagans?

rottennaija:



And I responded that @bolded question, there is none. Yet we acknowledge that God is the source of these.

Now, I am going to removed what seemed like a a roadblock to you... Please. Kindly respond to the following.
Based on your post above where you asked if I can point to the bible where God asked his people to celebrate any of those whom you mentioned to which I responded with a No. Can you please answer...

can you show in the bible where God commanded wedding rings to exchange or examples of exchange of wedding rings in the bible.

Can you also please show in the bible where wedding anniversary or wedding cakes are done at any Christian or Jewish wedding (when they had God's favour) or where God commanded wedding anniversary or exchange of wedding rings?

Can you please show where God commanded his people to avoid setting aside particular day for celebrating their birth? Can you please show on the bible where God's people avoided setting aside a particular day for celebrating their birth?

You for ask am why do they call the week and days the C.O visit each congregations SPECIAL?

Like one quickly rushed to use Galatians 4:8-11.

I remember one of their materials on why Christian do not celebrate the SABATH. That article was ended using Colossians 2: 16,17. I just dey Not to talk of Acts 1:7

KNOWMORE56:



Continue the good work. All I understand is that the very thing they accuse others, themselves are into it.

The moment one said all members of all religious group are sinners and influenced by Satan. I just dey .

achorladey:


You for ask am why do they call the week and days the C.O visit each congregations SPECIAL?

Like one quickly rushed to use Galatians 4:8-11.

I remember one of their materials on why Christian do not celebrate the SABATH. That article was ended using Colossians 2: 16,17. I just dey Not to talk of Acts 1:7

Any day Jehovah's servants have scheduled activities for Jehovah's worship is "special" ,

Achorladey wey "wise" , Which gods does Paul warn the Galatians about?

LordReed:


LoL. Maybe look up the meaning of irony and also hypocrisy while you are at it.

You're just making up FALSE claims to console yourself

Janosky:


You're just making up FALSE claims to console yourself

What false claim did I make and what do I need to console myself over?

rottennaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ljFFokh4U

Published on Jan 15, 2019
Watchtower prohibits all manner of practices, customs and holidays for Jehovah's Witnesses, claiming that these practices have "pagan" origins. However, there are many things that are clearly "pagan" (non-Christian) in origin that Jehovah's Witnesses are permitted to engage in. Here's my top 5 "pagan" things Jehovah's Witnesses actively engage in.

Wedding Ring History: The First Exchange
The first recorded evidence of what we would consider the forerunner of the modern custom of exchanging rings is found in ancient Egyptian scrolls dating back more than 3,000 years. The writings depict couples presenting each other with braided rings fashioned from hemp or reeds. As these materials did not last long, couples eventually replaced the fragile band with one made from leather, bone or ivory. The more expensive the material, the more love was being shown. The value of the ring also demonstrated the net worth of the giver. The translation of hieroglyphics show that Egyptians believe that the rings symbolized undying commitment and eternal love between the couple because the circle has no beginning or end.

Matthew 19:4-5 Is "undying commitment and eternal love" not what Jehovah desired the marital union to be?

Let me ask you:
On your wedding day, did you practice paganism by having a wedding cake and exchange of wedding rings with your spouse?

Your house get logo ,so you be confirmed idol worshipper..
Your car get logo, even Nairaland get logo, for being on this forum you be confirmed idol worshipper.

Deluded Rott Wailer & him Crew

Janosky:



Any day Jehovah's servants have scheduled activities for Jehovah's worship is "special" ,

Achorladey wey "wise" , Which gods does Paul warn the Galatians about?

Any day Jehovah's servants have scheduled activities for Jehovah's worship is "special"



Achorladey wey "wise" , Which gods does Paul warn the Galatians about

I don wise now do you have special days or what you call SPECIAL week or you see as special ? Your words up there na serious

Did I ask you about the gods?

Janosky:



Wedding Ring History: The First Exchange
The first recorded evidence of what we would consider the forerunner of the modern custom of exchanging rings is found in ancient Egyptian scrolls dating back more than 3,000 years. The writings depict couples presenting each other with braided rings fashioned from hemp or reeds. As these materials did not last long, couples eventually replaced the fragile band with one made from leather, bone or ivory. The more expensive the material, the more love was being shown. The value of the ring also demonstrated the net worth of the giver. The translation of hieroglyphics show that Egyptians believe that the rings symbolized undying commitment and eternal love between the couple because the circle has no beginning or end.

Matthew 19:4-5 Is "undying commitment and eternal love" not what Jehovah desired the marital union to be?

Let me ask you:
On your wedding day, did you practice paganism by having a wedding cake and exchange of wedding rings with your spouse?

Deluded Rott Wailer & him Crew

The same EGYPTIANS. These Egyptians are definitely CHRISTIANS not pagans