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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Basalt(m): 4:00pm On Dec 29, 2020
I am not a Messi fan but when I read that even Pele himself has congratulated Messi, I stopped reading...
If na like that, Barcelona will be organizing friendly match with Enyimba or Ifeanyiuba Fc every week and ofcus no how wey Messi no go score reach 10 in each match.
Santos should just shut the hell up

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Ayoswit(f): 4:00pm On Dec 29, 2020
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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Karleb(m): 4:03pm On Dec 29, 2020
Truth is, Santos has a very serious case here.
Someone like Ibrahimovic wouldn't have congratulated Messi.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by INTEGRITYA1(m): 4:04pm On Dec 29, 2020
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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Chigold101(m): 4:04pm On Dec 29, 2020
Logon360:
There's a reason why competitive appearances only are entered into a player's record. Else players will be organising friendly matches for charity where they will be scoring 10 goals each and adding to their records. I'm not a Messi fan but Santos has no case here. Messi has officially broken the record
Charity matches are not called friendly matches.
They are called charity matches.

Friendly matches are played between clubs or countries with registered players being players of the said club or country.

Charity matches are played either with selected players for both team or with one registered team players and selected players on the other team.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by GrammarNazi1(m): 4:05pm On Dec 29, 2020
Beverlyjean:
But truly, records were not kept as much as it is now, especially in Africa, Asia and South America...
Did you even read the post?

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by blackmantis: 4:07pm On Dec 29, 2020
Which kind whahala be this?

Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Dannyozs(m): 4:07pm On Dec 29, 2020
I like how the football world and Bodies ignored his gibberish till date like his oppinion in the matter is inconsequencial.

When he is serious he can charge or sue fifa to court because officially Messi is the highest scorer for a single team as far as rules are concerned.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by princeade86(m): 4:09pm On Dec 29, 2020
ThierryJay:
See lame excuse. They can't stomach the thought of Messi breaking Pele's record. So they are including unofficial goals scored in friendly club matches. So who told them that Messi did not score in friendly club matches too, or all his goals for Barcelona junior side when he was still under-17.

Anyway, only official club matches count when assessing a player's club goals. How do you assess a player's brilliance in non-competitive games?the question is, can he match pele records. Not at all.

Santos should go and take a backseat joor.
can he even match pele record at all? I doubt it.
Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Blackestjunior(m): 4:10pm On Dec 29, 2020
If that's the case let's count messi U11,U12, U15,U16 goals; matches that 1 player can score 12 goals since goal na goal for Santos side

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by jaxxy(m): 4:10pm On Dec 29, 2020
Haba nah. Lol
Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by seancombs617: 4:11pm On Dec 29, 2020
Officialhorlah:
Mumu Santos
Even PELE knew he broke the recordgrin
He broke the record Periodt!
He has xavi and sneidger's awards there too.. your G. O. A. T is meant to have just 4.
Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Enceladus(m): 4:12pm On Dec 29, 2020
Pained people. Following their logic Gerd Muller is the owner of the record then.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Flango: 4:14pm On Dec 29, 2020
shocked

People have to take into context the different times of these footballers. First, Pele was a global star in his time and Santos could not pay him by playing in Brazil alone.

As a result, Santos organized many friendlies with European super clubs at the time which was basically to drive revenue. These friendlies were not as friendly as we have it today like a pre season. They were hardly fought with bragging rights and sometimes trophies on the line.

I find it ridiculous when people compare players who played in different generations.

When you consider that, you'll understand were Santos is coming from. Those friendly goals were not just friendlies in the real sense of it.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Blackestjunior(m): 4:14pm On Dec 29, 2020
If that's the case let count Messi U11, u13 , u15, u16 goals ; matches that one player can score 12 goals in a single match, Barcelona should count all of them since Santos is saying all Goal na Goal both freindlies own

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by ThierryJay: 4:14pm On Dec 29, 2020
princeade86:
can he even match pele record at all? I doubt it.

Ermm, are you still stuck in 2009? cos He has already broken Pele's record.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by sty1es: 4:15pm On Dec 29, 2020
biden123:
During Pele's time, there was no offside in football.
So,whether he broke the record or not, Messi is still the goat cool
no offside? What a lie!

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by princeade86(m): 4:16pm On Dec 29, 2020
ThierryJay:


Ermm, are you still stuck in 2009? cos He has already broken Pele's record.
with three world cup?

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by biden123(m): 4:19pm On Dec 29, 2020
sty1es:
no offside? What a lie!
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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by ThierryJay: 4:22pm On Dec 29, 2020
princeade86:
with three world cup?

I thought this thread was about the most goals for a single club? Or am I missing something.

FYI while there are records Pele retains over Messi, there are also many records that Messi has that Pele does not.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by 02Kebreal(m): 4:26pm On Dec 29, 2020
Logon360:
There's a reason why competitive appearances only are entered into a player's record. Else players will be organising friendly matches for charity where they will be scoring 10 goals each and adding to their records. I'm not a Messi fan but Santos has no case here. Messi has officially broken the record
Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by ogbonti: 4:38pm On Dec 29, 2020
Logon360:
There's a reason why competitive appearances only are entered into a player's record. Else players will be organising friendly matches for charity where they will be scoring 10 goals each and adding to their records. I'm not a Messi fan but Santos has no case here. Messi has officially broken the record


........ waiting for Messi to break Pele's record of winning 3 world cups before he turned 30 years old, UNTIL THEN - Messhit should STFU grin

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Jyde89: 4:45pm On Dec 29, 2020
eyaaaah e pain them. they had better retract this and apologise to lord Messi before we start digging the videos of his friendly match goals, starting from his academy days in Barca. awon werey.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Juanmike(m): 4:47pm On Dec 29, 2020
That's what he does, Fake goat.
Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Hallabee1(m): 4:49pm On Dec 29, 2020
kenzysmith:
For me as far Pele didn't play in Europe buh Brazilian mediocre league without world class professional coaches, and no tactical input at that time Santos should even be glad their club is recognized. what of me that has scored over 2000 goals in monkey post and normal secondary school match nobody recognize me . there was a day I scored 23 goals for monkey post till date only halannd of Norway has come close to my record with 9goals in under20 world cup

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Bluffly: 4:49pm On Dec 29, 2020
ThierryJay:
See lame excuse. They can't stomach the thought of Messi breaking Pele's record. So they are including unofficial goals scored in friendly club matches. So who told them that Messi did not score in friendly club matches too, or all his goals for Barcelona junior side when he was still under-17.

Anyway, only official club matches count when assessing a player's club goals. How do you assess a player's brilliance in non-competitive games?

Santos should go and take a backseat joor.
Barcelona should calculate Messi's club friendly goals as well. Simple as ABC.
Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Jyde89: 4:51pm On Dec 29, 2020
ogbonti:



........ waiting for Messi to break Pele's record of winning 3 world cups before he turned 30 years old, UNTIL THEN - Messhit should STFU grin

mumu how many world cup has ororo won. you guys can't just stay in your lane, you'll never see a Messi fan dragging Ronaldo cos we know who the real Goat is. but trust the Ronaldo fan to always get an errection once the name of Messi is mentioned. I won't be surprised to catch y'all masturbating to his picture in your rooms one day.

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Elxandre(m): 4:58pm On Dec 29, 2020
Jyde89:


mumu how many world cup has ororo won. you guys can't just stay in your lane, you'll never see a Messi fan dragging Ronaldo cos we know who the real Goat is. but trust the Ronaldo fan to always get an errection once the name of Messi is mentioned. I won't be surprised to catch y'all masturbating to his picture in your rooms one day.
Plenty finals zero national team cups.
Abeggii. tongue tongue tongue

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Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Lamasta(m): 5:01pm On Dec 29, 2020
Santos should move on they don't have excuse...
Re: Messi Didn't Break Pele's Record - Santos by Carloslehder: 5:07pm On Dec 29, 2020
Story for the Gods if it's that one then we will count messi's academy days goals too.
Pele scored all that goals against 3rd tier local teams in his country, didn't have no European significance

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