Paramountgift:
ARE ATHEISTS ZOMBIES?..LOL

.
.
.

The to the question of sin and why wearing body exposing clothes would be a sin.
I'll expantiate

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ already made known the details of the New Covenant, which is He, from since 2000 years ago. To those who would claim to love Him, He said, "If you love me, you will see my commandments". Note that these are the very same commandments detailed in the gospels to this day.

Professing love, yet refusing to obey the commandments as stipulated by the person of Jesus Christ is meaninglessness. Prayer is not the key... Obedience is !

budaatum:


Like, love you neighbours and your atheist enemies even more so.

Kobojunkie:
the command to love your neighbour is also included as part of the Old Covenant(YHWH), the term "neighbour" meant to indicate even those who are also your neighbours obviously.

budaatum:


How about the command to love your enemies too, even after they have slap your cheeks 7 times 70 times, is that Old Testament too?

And if you obey it are you not disobeying the OT eye for an eye? Though it was not exactly a law, I must admit, and just an understanding that was yet to evolve till Christ thankfully evolved it.

By the way, I was agreeing with you.

"Professing love, yet refusing to obey the commandments as stipulated by the person of Jesus Christ is meaninglessness."

Paramountgift:
ARE ATHEISTS ZOMBIES?..LOL


The only difference between atheists and believers is the presence of defined and undefined destinies.

Being spiritual and coming to terms with your Maker while obeying his commands will simply make your life more purposeful and bring you closer to your destiny which would be beautiful by the way.

God never gifts his children with sour destinies, so for y'all atheists, you might want to know that the life you are living is meaningless without God.

The practical example of an atheists life is the life of a side character in a movie or book. Only those that know God and develop a close relationship with Him are the main characters in the book of human existence.

You may be an atheist but I bet you are conversant with the story of the Israelites' deliverance. Talk of Pharoah and his minions 'the ever loyal Egyptian soldiers'.

You see those minions of Pharoah, they'll continue to remain minions cause we don't even know their names, they're just Egyptians who serve a rather pathetic destiny. Their life ends in drowning.

Their destiny was to foolishly obey pharoah's instructions to their death. They stood in the way of God and His people, so they had to perish to get out of the way.

God will not hesitate to wipe out any side character for his main character to shine so brightly and serve a beautiful destiny. So lest you forget, you are just a side character serving an unimportant purpose and filling the Earth's space.

When natural disasters or problems arise, y'all are the first to get hit. God's children will certainly survive it to preserve their seed. When the devil is looking for a test subject, y'all are his perfect pick, he can't lay his filthy finger on God's own. Take Job for instance, he was the righteous one, not his children.

When the devil needed to tempt Job he struck the kids easily and they were cleared off. I bet if they were holy like their Dad, they'd never have been hurt. Job was the main character and they were the side characters, they practically died for his temptation test. Newer kids came and replaced them. Atheists, y'all are like those poor kids.

The moment you accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour, you cease to be a side character. When you walk closely with Him and Get to know Him better you become a main character, and the host of angels are at your beck and call 247. When you pray heaven pays attention.

You thinks everything's going well and life's sweet?
Forget the wealth and health you have now. The real life begins after death, and you are Judged by how you live on earth. The things you did on planet Earth including your standing with God will determine your afterlife reality 'Heaven or Hell'.

Life on Earth is only a fraction of eternity, so for y'all that believe it's all over after death, you might be shocked by what's waiting in the afterlife.

The to the question of sin and why wearing body exposing clothes would be a sin.
I'll expantiate

Paramountgift:

When natural disasters or problems arise, y'all are the first to get hit. God's children will certainly survive it to preserve their seed.

When the devil needed to tempt Job he struck the kids easily and they were cleared off. I bet if they were holy like their Dad, they'd never have been hurt.

TheSpellChecker:


Expatiate.

There's really nothing there to expand.

TheSpellChecker:


Expatiate.

There's really nothing there to expand.

hopefulLandlord:
hey question: could you give me an example of a disasterous thing can only happen to someone who is an atheist? also mention a good event that can only happen to a Christian.
kindly show us the verse(s) saying the children weren't holy.

hopefulLandlord:
hey question: could you give me an example of a disasterous thing can only happen to someone who is an atheist? also mention a good event that can only happen to a Christian.
kindly show us the verse(s) saying the children weren't holy.

hopefulLandlord:
hey question: could you give me an example of a disasterous thing can only happen to someone who is an atheist? also mention a good event that can only happen to a Christian.
kindly show us the verse(s) saying the children weren't holy.

Paramountgift:



Question 1(disastrous thing):

Check out Isaiah 65: 1- end

But let's start from vs 20


65:20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

65:21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

65:22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

65:23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.

65:24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

You see all these blessings above, they are not for atheists, they are for the children of God.

The reverse is the case for atheists and unbelievers.

Check out from vs 1 to see the curses attached to a soul that is rebellious and does not regard God.

If you are knowledgeable about the scriptures in the minimum extent possible, that is, even baby stage of Christianity, you will understand that from Genesis to revelation, the Bible is replete with repercussions for those that do not believe God.

They are rebellious people who will end up in hell if they do not repent and accept Christ.

The ultimate disaster is 'spending eternity in hell fire' where there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth....

Check out Isaiah 65, you will see that not believing God's existence and power alone is a curse in itself, and there are punishments attached.

Paramountgift:



Question 2:


Job 1: 8; Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?”

Job 1:13;
And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house:

The above scriptures depict the carousal nature of Jobs children in contrast to their fathers habit of maintaining quiet time daily, and walking with God uprightly.

While Job made offerings and prayed to God, his children did the exact opposite.

While celebration is not termed wrong, excessive partying without giving time to acknowledge God's presence and commandments is very wrong.

The Bible may not have directly painted the attitude of Job's children as evil, but the Bible did same indirectly, or however you see it because, when God evaluated the upright people in the land, Job's children certainly were not a part of that number. Job 1:8


They were not holy like Job their father because they didn't walk in his footsteps. We see this proof in God's testimony of Job as being the only upright fellow in all the land. Job 1:8

Sometimes, a lot of stories contained in the Bible may not come off as direct. You need prayer and understanding to be able to unravel these mysteries for your edification.

2Tim. 3 Verses 16 to 17
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

If you don't get correction from God's word, where else will you get it.
The Bible is not to be crafted to suit what people want to hear, but what God wants them to hear.


I know you are more interested in finding faults here, but I urge you to surrender your life to Jesus, pray, and get understanding for yourself.

hopefulLandlord:

.
.
. Even your Bible made it clear that the poor would be amongst us so if we all turn to Christians it won't eradicate poverty

I must admit the part about hell makes sense but that's after we're dead and there's no assurance it's real.

hopefulLandlord:


If I got the verse you quoted and what you elucidated you are saying aside Job. everyone in the whole world were unholy? I hope you don't believe that.....

Also there's nothing to suggest they "excessively partied" that's your own assumption. also your part about the children not making offerings and praying to God is your own assumption too! nothing stops one from eating and drinking at one's brother's house and still finding time to pray and offer offerings

Paramountgift:



Yes, the poor will always be among us and that's reality, but why not choose the way of the rich.
The Bible doesn't describe riches by just what you've acquired on Earth as a person.

Yes, the part about Hell makes sense because it is indeed true. But would you rather prefer to know about it after your death? When it's too late?

What have you got to lose really if you give Christ a chance right now?

Paramountgift:
I bet they look dashing without any unnatural or wordly additions...
Judge for yourself

hopefulLandlord:
but your verses about the benefits seem to be focused on riches and getting rewards for labour. I see many Christians who seem to be labouring in vainI don't see any observable benefit your Jesus can give to me while on earth that those who don't believe in him can't have.
supposed posthumous benefits doesn't address the question maddam

Paramountgift:





I don't stand here, claiming to be a know-it-all. The little I know of, I've shared with you. There is really no point in excessive argument.

I don't know what you may have been through in life to make such a conclusion about your religious standing. You seem like you had been associated with church and Christianity in the past.

If you fear God you will know and understand more mysteries because...the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom....

We are humans and we are limited in knowledge, but God knows it all. Why not we do the things he commands and leave the rest for Him.

1 Cor 1:25
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite

Romans 11:33
Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways

You see many Christians suffering by just observing them?

Observation is not enough to know the full story.
Do you know whether they have fully surrendered their all to Christ before claiming the title of Christianity.
Do you know the generational problems and demons they may be carrying because they haven't attained complete deliverance, even though they are christians?
Do you know whether they have fully casted their burdens on the Lord or if they're are trusting Him half-heartedly?
Do you know if they are practicing at least a good percentage of Christian virtues Christ commanded us to do?
Do you know whether they are following basic Bible principles of ....'give and it shall be given unto you'....
&
Principles of tithing, bringing meat into God's storehouse...'paying tithe faithfully'... before their lives remained poor as you see?

Know that to get riches from God, there are certain principles you must follow.

Riches in biblical sense doesn't suggest you will be dangote, but you will enjoy peace of mind, good health, and comfort in an evil world if you follow basic biblical principles, while praying earnestly to God and still working hard.

It is the work of your hands that God will bless. He doesn't give you wealth from nothing, there must be a foundation.

Do you know whether those christians you observed are even working hard, or they're lazy waiting for manna to fall from heaven?

You don't Know many things because you are just an observer from the distance. Don't make assumptions from what you don't Know.


I'm a living testimony...when I truly surrendered all to Jesus and attained deliverance, my life changed for the better both academically, financially, and health-wise. I won't say I'm the richest person but I am comfortable and increasing in riches by God's grace.

If you are claiming to serve God and expecting promises from him but you don't trust Him fully, it's a waste of time. It's just like praying and not believing God can do what you're praying for. There are so many reasons the prayers of Christians are not being answered, and that's a topic for another day.


Note that...every human was already under a curse of death as soon as Adam and Eve sinned. Living is sin is damnation in itself, and there was hardly any hope for humanity until Christ came.

People that lived before Christ were judged based on their good and righteous standing, and it was exceeding difficult to see such persons.
That time, if man dinner, he had to kill animals an make burnt offerings. Today, you just need to pray to God sincerely in the comfort of wherever you are, and get answers. No offerings or sacrifices needed!

God didn't owe man anything when man disobeyed, all the promises and blessings we're gone. Sin was replaced with the curses attached to it, and sin is a reproach to God, He doesn't behold it.

God repented that he created man..and wiped a generation of humans and saved Noah and family because of Noah's righteousness.

It is God's compassion for humanity, that made Him send Jesus to redeem us. Now our relationship with Him can be restored by only accepting Christ and walking in His footsteps.

Christ became a curse for us...
Galatians 3:13: “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: 'Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole. ... He took the curse of sin on himself so that every believer would be blessed rather than cursed.

2 Corinthians 5:18
18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation

Paramountgift:
I bet they look dashing without any unnatural or wordly additions...
Judge for yourself

Deicide:
Are you a deeper life member?

Paramountgift:


No, but it doesn't matter... denomination doesn't matter.

Deicide:
So mountain on fire then?

Paramountgift:
I bet they look dashing without any unnatural or wordly additions...
Judge for yourself

MaxInDHouse:
On the contrary most atheists believe they are better of without FAITH, they see FAITH as hindrances to their potentials, they truthfully want the best in life, they also love to have happy homes, lovely wives/husbands and kids, and of course they want a tidy, peaceful and secured environment.
But one thing they lack the energy to pass through dreadful times, manage stress, nurse the feelings of regrets, persevere in times of neglect and betrayal. All these are stages we must all pass through in this wicked world {1Peter 1:7} so what is it that can keep us going energetically?
God's Holy Spirit! Jesus admonished us to keep praying to God for a measure of this gift so that we can survive all the trying times! Luke 11:11-13
That's the only thing they're missing.
So when true believers are making good use of the Holy Spirit like the fuel in our cars to continue traveling through life's journey unbelievers will suffer a shipwreck! Matthew 25:3-4

Its not spiritism that gives energy, its fellowship. Something atheism lacks in Africa. Everyone needs help, support, comfort. Christians judge non christians when they need help especially atheists. But soon atheists will come out en masse and "fellowship". But individually atheist are stronger, tougher and face life head on knowing that "c'est la vie". Atheist dont fear death as much as religious people do cos they know its a passage of life

MaxInDHouse:
On the contrary most atheists believe they are better of without FAITH, they see FAITH as hindrances to their potentials, they truthfully want the best in life, they also love to have happy homes, lovely wives/husbands and kids, and of course they want a tidy, peaceful and secured environment.
But one thing they lack the energy to pass through dreadful times, manage stress, nurse the feelings of regrets, persevere in times of neglect and betrayal. All these are stages we must all pass through in this wicked world {1Peter 1:7} so what is it that can keep us going energetically?
God's Holy Spirit! Jesus admonished us to keep praying to God for a measure of this gift so that we can survive all the trying times! Luke 11:11-13
That's the only thing they're missing.
So when true believers are making good use of the Holy Spirit like the fuel in our cars to continue traveling through life's journey unbelievers will suffer a shipwreck! Matthew 25:3-4

Dtruthspeaker:


Atheists have troubles and get into troubles and are put into troubles weakly and monthly. When one trouble ends another one immediately comes to remind you them that they are married. No Rest.

"There is no peace for the wicked" Isaiah 48:22

"Evil pursueth sinners:" Proverbs 13:21.

But this is not so for True Lovers of God. We are so rest filled that we can not wait for the action of trouble. Trouble excites us because, it is another opportunity to shine For The Lord gives us Victories over our enemies.

"There shall no evil happen to the just: but the wicked shall be filled with mischief" Proverbs 12:21

And this is just one of the differences.

Paramountgift:


No boss

kimco:

What did I just read? Whaaaaat?! Trouble excites True lovers of God? Whaaaaaat?! Surely you jest. You know that reality disagrees with you right?

kimco:

Or is this going to be another case of no true scotman fallacy? The others are not true lovers of God, only you and people like you.

kimco:
... Atheist dont fear death as much as religious people do cos they know its a passage of life