MaxInDHouse:
What do you expect from an atheist who tried everything manly possible to refute something but finds no way to do so? John 10:20
So try not to change the subject Sir, your last post exposed the rebellious spirit in you.

According to what you quoted:

SHUNNING is biblical!
It could only work in the midst of those taught and believes the same thing!

So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization is hereby vindicated!

BigCabal:
In the beginning, it all seemed pretty normal. Not celebrating birthdays, not associating with people who weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW). I mean, I was born into it. Everyone we knew was a Witness, and we were discouraged from making friends with non-JWs. We were divine people and anyone who wasn’t one of us was regarded as the spawn of Satan. As a child, it all felt pretty normal. I felt quite special because everything we did was different. We were Jehovah’s people after all.

I loved being a Witness, but I disagreed with some of the doctrines, like the order not to celebrate birthdays. I wished I could celebrate my birthday with my friends, have food and drinks and be the centre of attention, but I never had that. I pegged it up to being persecuted for righteousness’ sake. JWs have a kink where they enjoy being punished for their faith. I was punished every single day in school for not singing the national anthem because we’re not allowed to. I wasn’t mad or upset about it. On Sunday, during field service, all my JW friends would brag to each other about how we stood up to our teachers, how we stayed faithful to Jehovah and never caved.

You don’t realise you’re in a cult until something in your head clicks, and it didn’t click in mine until I was a teenager. The congregation was anti-secular education. There were plenty of publications, articles and letters, talks at the Kingdom Hall discouraging people from going to school. Universities were painted as some kind of corrupt cesspool where members go to lose their faith. We were told about how when God’s Kingdom comes, you were not going to need your degree in medicine or psychology or whatever you wanted to study because God’s Kingdom would be a perfect world, so there was no reason to go to school. Many Nigerian schools, for some bizarre reason, request a reference letter from your place of worship or a civil servant as a condition for admission. My brother, who was the most devout member, needed that letter, but the organisation treated him like a criminal. They had several meetings and tried to discourage my father not to let him go.

Watching him get treated that way lit the fire of doubt inside me. There was no indication that he would go to school and lose his faith, so why should he be treated like that? On the outside, I was still quite the fanatic, but on the inside, my mind was awash with doubt. I thought: if this doctrine is suspect, what else are we being brainwashed with? Why were they scared of enlightenment? If people went to school and lost their faith, then wasn’t the problem the faith and not the school?

This crack of doubt spread when I recalled cases of sexual abuse against JW children. In all of those cases, the matters were covered up and the perpetrator unpunished, thanks to yet another questionable JW doctrine — matters between Jehovah’s Witnesses must always be settled in-house.

Members were not allowed to report crimes or issues between members to the police. When I was young, a devout member sexually abused a child. I remember how it was covered up. Nobody reported to the police. Another time, a man embezzled another Witness’ money in his company. It was a lot of money, but because they were both witnesses, it was never reported, and he never got his money back. I didn’t think much of all this then, but it began to make sense.

My experience with sexism in the organisation also fuelled my doubt. An elder told us that it was impossible for a woman to give a public talk. One time, a woman mentioned that she had attended a remote women-only congregation where the speaker was a woman, the elder was adamant: if there were no men, that congregation should not exist. Women could only speak while sitting and with their hair covered. I thought, “Women dedicate their entire lives to the organisation and get nothing in return, not even the right to speak?” It didn’t make sense to me, but we accepted it because it was a “directive from Jehovah”.

My doubt finally made me search for ex-JWs content on Google to read the experiences of people who had left the organisation. There was this video of a woman who organised a flash mob in a Kingdom Hall in the United States to protest the cover-up of her rape as a child. It hit me. I couldn’t believe the organisation that nurtured me was capable of such evil. I did more digging and found more people who had been treated so poorly by the organisation. I never dug too deep because I always felt guilty reading on the experiences of ex-JW members, I had to do it secretly and even clear my browser history because I didn’t want my parents finding that on my phone.

I got into university in 2016. When I resumed, I discovered that there was a JW congregation in the university. I began to wonder why we were discouraged from going to school when there was a university JW community. Suddenly, it clicked. We were taught from a young age not to question anything. Whatever happens, Jehovah is the answer. If it’s bad, Jehovah let it happen to teach us a lesson. I recollected all the times the organisation covered up scary crimes. For the first time, I was not under the protection of my family, and when I started interacting with other JWs by myself, I started to see how toxic it all really was — the politics, gossip, shaming, misogyny — it just didn’t feel right.

But I still stayed. I had no choice. I was young and dependent on my parents.

All those little things built up incrementally. My classes clashed with meeting times, and I started going from attending meetings regularly to going once or twice a week to once a month. I was treated like scum for missing those meetings. It felt like I was trying to leave a controlling person who was trying so hard to hold on to me. I got calls and messages disguised as feigned concern for me. It was wrapped in, “We’re calling because we love you and care about you,” but I could always feel the passive aggression. I felt even less connected to them and stopped attending meetings completely.

It is rare for someone to actually leave the congregation. In my 18 years in the organisation, I only saw one person denounce the faith and all its doctrine.

Continue: https://www.zikoko.com/life/why-i-stopped-being-a-jehovahs-witness-after-19-years/

MaxInDHouse:
What do you expect from an atheist who tried everything manly possible to refute something but finds no way to do so? John 10:20
So try not to change the subject Sir, your last post exposed the rebellious spirit in you.

According to what you quoted:

SHUNNING is biblical!
It could only work in the midst of those taught and believes the same thing!

So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization is hereby vindicated!

MaxInDHouse:
The underlined is your way of changing the topic and it's unacceptable!

Nobody is talking about TRUST here but SHUNNING. If i greet, talk, chat, eat and drink with an atheist, does it makes sense to say i'm shunning them?
But on the other hand i must not greet, talk, chat, eat nor drink with an exjw i hope you're getting the gist now!

So it's not about TRUST but SHUNNING!

MaxInDHouse:
What do you expect from an atheist who tried everything manly possible to refute something but finds no way to do so? John 10:20
So try not to change the subject Sir, your last post exposed the rebellious spirit in you.

According to what you quoted:

SHUNNING is biblical!
It could only work in the midst of those taught and believes the same thing!

So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization is hereby vindicated!

achorladey:

The above statement of yours is why you and your organization shun those that do not sin amidst you

KNOWMORE56:

Biblical shunning is towards immoral people...
*. 1 Corinthians 5:9 "KJV: I wrote unto you in an epistle NOT TO COMPANY WITH FORNICATORS:
While your organization protect immortal people... it's not the same.

KNOWMORE56:


From the op one can see some of the things that made Russians to call you terrorists.

You see those who are not in the organization as satanic, yet you go to them with pretending smile.

Hatred in the heart, smile on the face... it's a dangerous tactics...

The best way solve this problem: is STOP THEM B4 THEY START...

KNOWMORE56:


From the op one can see some of the things that made Russians to call you terrorists.

You see those who are not in the organization as satanic, yet you go to them with pretending smile.

Hatred in the heart, smile on the face... it's a dangerous tactics...

The best way solve this problem: is STOP THEM B4 THEY START...

nnamdiosu:


I feel you bro, honestly I do. And trust me, I can vouch for many of my jw friends to be more honest and moral than my non jw friends.

However, there are so many indices that point out that jw organization is a cult. Like very tight systematic cultures, way of life, beliefs, etc. But it's fine.

But I won't want to argue, judge or critize sir. I relate with a person as according to an individual, not a group or association.
God bless you. Amen.

MaxInDHouse:
We've SHUNED them so you can have them!

achorladey:

Thanks for the kindness. I am willing to share them with you

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry a commentator has ruled out whatever you are trying to say now!

He said "I can VOUCH for my JW friends than my nonjw friends"

I believe he could say the same about his Boko Haram friends after all they're also terrorists like JWs!

achorladey:

And the nnamdiosu added.....
Do calm down. You seems so eagar to prove JE isn't a cult or is acceptable. It's not an issue of hyprotical. Listen.
When I say I enjoy the company of my JW friends , IT DOESNT MEAN I ACCEPT OR THINK THE JW DOCTRINES ARE BETTER OR MORALLY RIGHT ITSELF.
my non JW friends may not be morally as right as them, but they are human and understanding.
So don't get it twisted.
A cult can have morally good guys by day that don't take alcohol in the day, but drink blood at night. (Just saying)

MaxInDHouse:
Oh that's very generous of you!

Please make them your brothers and sisters, and try to be much more kind to them so that they'll forget and format everything about JWs from their SD card!
That's exactly what each new convert becoming JWs often does so we don't have to look back at everything we've left behind. Matthew 19:27-29; Luke 9:60-61
Please help those exjws do the same!

MaxInDHouse:
That's the spirit of deception nah!

Try to correlate the two statement and ask any intellectual if it's coming from the same spirit sincerely speaking!

"TRUST me, I can VOUCH for MANY of my JW friends to be more honest and moral than my non JW friends" ~ nnamdiosu

"But they (JW friends) can be moral and good by the day, but drink blood at night" ~ nnamdiosu

We can understand because a spirit spoke through Peter and Jesus commended him {Matthew 16:16-19} but after few minutes Jesus said something and ANOTHER spirit spoke through the same Peter! Matthew 16:21-23

So don't worry my guy JWs can understand what happened to our friend (nnamdiosu)

achorladey:

The materials printed week in week out tells me you and your organization hardly forget what Christendom and Babylon the great does. In fact you and your organization not only recall their past you equally use latest happenings around them to make you and your organization look good.
So what exjws or I choose to leave behind is beyond your jurisdiction.

achorladey:

It is now spirit of DECEPTION . In other words we can discard the initial words since na deception

MaxInDHouse:
It's the Organization as a whole that's talking about a world of confused religionists killing one another yet claiming they're worshipers of the same God! No JW goes about talking about his former religion to make people there feel anything. Rather we introduce A BETTER PERFORMING GROUP of people that no other person can point to it's equal!
Nnamdiosu is a living Witness on this thread, listen to him ~ "I can VOUCH for many of my JW friends to be MORE HONEST and MORAL than my non JW friends"
That statement is enough to judge all critics of pure worship! 1Peter 2:12

Please try to get someone say something of that nature about another CULT GROUP!

achorladey:


The bold is what you do here not just about other religion but about the one you abandoned to become JWs not to talk of those you would have given as talks and other assignments given to you within the organization you belong.

When I get to know this one in pidgin called LIE LIE CHRISTIAN. I can't help but laugh.

MaxInDHouse:
It's enough for the derailing, back to me topic of discussion:
SHUNNING is biblical and JWs are PRACTICING it simple as ABC!
The main reason why no other religious group can practice this injunction confidently is written all over your faces: YOU PEOPLE ARE FAITHLESS!
If Deeperlife, RCCG, MFM, Chosen, Winners, SCOAN, Christ Embassy, Catholic, Anglican, Cele or C&S try it they are all scared of loosing members who will contribute money for them.
But JWs like Jesus will give you a condition, live by it you become one of us, desist from it we will SHUN you! Luke 18:18-26

achorladey:

Luke 18: Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved?”
27 Jesus replied, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.

MaxInDHouse:
It's our own God and our own standard so we are OK with it, we will SHUN those that goes contrary to our standard so you can have them!

MaxInDHouse:
It's our own God and our own standard so we are OK with it, we will SHUN those that goes contrary to our standard so you can have them!

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm God's word is full of wisdom!
I've forgotten that once you're no more with JWs the spirit of understanding will depart from you, no wonder Paul and John said we should avoid having to do with exjws like you!

Now this is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of Luke 18:18-27
A Jew approached Jesus trying to know what he must do to gain everlasting life, Jesus presented the Mosaic laws and the man said he's OK with that then Jesus gave a condition that has never been heard of in the scriptures then our friend walked away in grief. So Jesus concluded by saying with this man's heart condition he can't see everlasting life. The disciples were shocked because (1)What Jesus required is not written anywhere in God's word! (2) Jesus is saying that man will not inherit God's Kingdom for turning down his offer!

When someone finds JW Organization and all the goodies attached to it, he must be prepared to sacrifice everything he has to remain in this Organization otherwise he can't get what we are working towards EVERLASTING LIFE!

Jesus' disciples were so scared of this saying that they have to voice out asking Jesus "Who then can be saved?" then Jesus replied "with men (faithless people) it is impossible but with God (exerting ourselves to remain in the camp of the holy ones) all things are possible"

That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what i just cited for you but it escaped my mind that you're no more with us so you can't understand the spiritual language! Zephaniah 3:9

It's OK my guy go and rest!

KNOWMORE56:



[/b]"....SHUN those that goes contrary to our standard.."[b]

Your standards go against God standards in the sense that God wants you to shun anyone who is called a brother but he's a fornicator, a rob, a cheat, busybody, etc

*. 1 Corinthians 5:11 "KJV:But now I have written unto you NOT TO KEEP COMPANY, IF ANY MAN THAT IS CALLED A BROTHER BE A FORNICATOR, or COVETOUS, or AN IDOLATOR, or A RAILER, or A DRUNKARD, or AN EXTORTIONER; with such an one no not to eat."

No wonder your organization hardly talk about HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS...

You can see why I said t Word is in your hand and in your head but Watch tower is in your Heart...

Your heart is very important...give your heart to Jesus!

*. Proverbs 4:4 "KJV:He taught me also, and said unto me, LET THINE HEART RETAIN MY WORDS: keep my commandments, and live."

*. Proverbs 4:23 "KJV:Keep THY HEART WITH ALL DILIGENCE; for out of it are the issues of life."

Proverbs 23:26 "KJV: MY SON, GIVE ME THINE HEART, and let thine eyes observe my ways."

JESUS is calling you saying MY SON, GIVE ME THINE HEART...

achorladey:


Where in the scripture was it written to SHUN those that (do not) sin?

Simple answer don't punctuate your response with answering your own questions on my behalf.

KNOWMORE56:


Thanks be to God for your freedom.
They carry fake smile up and down to deceive people....

They won't shun child rapists but will shun the person who demand for justice..

Janosky:


Your question is very DUBIOUS & contradictory because you placed a bracket ( ) sign in that question.
Remove the bracket sign ( ) in the question make everyone know the lane you dey,no put two legs dey paddle two canoe

KNOWMORE56:



[/b]"....SHUN those that goes contrary to our standard.."[b]

Your standards go against God standards in the sense that God wants you to shun anyone who is called a brother but he's a fornicator, a rob, a cheat, busybody, etc

*. 1 Corinthians 5:11 "KJV:But now I have written unto you NOT TO KEEP COMPANY, IF ANY MAN THAT IS CALLED A BROTHER BE A FORNICATOR, or COVETOUS, or AN IDOLATOR, or A RAILER, or A DRUNKARD, or AN EXTORTIONER; with such an one no not to eat."

No wonder your organization hardly talk about HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS...

You can see why I said t Word is in your hand and in your head but Watch tower is in your Heart...

Your heart is very important...give your heart to Jesus!

*. Proverbs 4:4 "KJV:He taught me also, and said unto me, LET THINE HEART RETAIN MY WORDS: keep my commandments, and live."

*. Proverbs 4:23 "KJV:Keep THY HEART WITH ALL DILIGENCE; for out of it are the issues of life."

Proverbs 23:26 "KJV: MY SON, GIVE ME THINE HEART, and let thine eyes observe my ways."

JESUS is calling you saying MY SON, GIVE ME THINE HEART...

Bros, Your claim is DUBIOUS.
On this forum, only Jehovah's Servants have repeatedly defended the scriptures as far as
1 Corinthians 5:1-2,11-13 & 2 Thess 3:6 is concerned, because HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS is of prime importance to Jehovah God, we apply the principles to discipline erring individuals in our midst.


Bring one evidence to this forum that your Churchpreneurs & Pastorpreneurs have obeyed both Scriptures, or stop making empty noise

KNOWMORE56:


Biblical shunning is towards immoral people...

*. 1 Corinthians 5:9 "KJV: I wrote unto you in an epistle NOT TO COMPANY WITH FORNICATORS:


While your organization protect immortal people... it's not the same.

[b]Why would Jehovah's Servants protect "immortal people" who are untouchables to your Churchpreneurs?

achorladey:


Jumping into a discussion without reading properly. Someone has said you need things to be in bold to see clearly.

Who added the [b]bracket sign? SMH![/b]

If they don't deceive, they are liars, if they are not liars, they are fraud, if they are not fraud, they are dubious, if they are not dubious, they are contradictory. Mr educated literate!

Bros, continue LYING and DECEIVING yourself.
Brother Max, come see Zzor's "Snake man" denying the post he made to you

These screenshots were your posts at 8:34am, continue to shake your head, Mr LIENUS DECEIVING himself.