2mch:

I wonder why people keep coming up with this nonsense. How can Lagos be a benin place? Very ridiculous. From your logic,  Africa must be british and you are a non indigene as a result. Please stop displaying your stupidity. not-so-smart person.

komando77:

@ Ekt_bear,
My point exactly. The Lagosians of today contain remnants of the Benin warriors of old, and many see themselves as Awori, and not Yoruba.
@ seanet 03, point of corection, Lagos has never been a FCT. It has always been a state. Past governors include Buba Marwa, Lateef Jakande, etc. Abuja on the other hand has always been an FCT, and never a state. That is why Abuja has a minster, and not a state governor.
Even when Lagos was Nigeria's capital it always had a governor, not a minister.
Lagos did not join Oodua Group because the Yoruba nationalists regard it as Non Yoruba. The Oba of Benin knows this.

komando77:

Ok, let's say Lagos had a Benin dominated upper-class, because if not, why did the wole territoy take a Benin name?
Also Ekiti was also subjugated by the Benin Empire. So is it now implausible that Lagos too could have been a Benin town, as its traditional name point out.

ekt_bear:

Which Ikwerre? They are migrants. It is a fake ethnic group created to steal land from the Ijaw.

Like the Jawasa of Jos

ekt_bear:

Most of Rivers state sef is not Igbo. It is historically Ijaw. But was stolen from them by Igbo migrants

PHC for example is Ijawland

komando77:

@ 2much
There, you have it: straight from the mouth of the Oba of Benin. These are excerpts from a lecture he gave in the University of Ibadan, in 1984. You prolly were not born then. So read, and expand your pea sized brain.

komando77:

The Origin of Eko (Lagos)   There is a lot of traditional history at both Benin and Lagos ends relating to the origin of what is now Lagos, its ruler and it's connection with Benin. But perhaps to avoid inadequacies and controversy which the academics claim surrounds traditional history, we may like to hear what some modern historians have to say on this subject. Robert S. Smith, in his book of some principal Yoruba owns, especially in and around Oyo, and the westward expansion in the 17th century of Benin Kingdom with it's number of subject towns on or near to the coast, which included Lagos, went on to say this about Lagos in particular: "It's name reflect it's past to the Yoruba it's Eko, deriving probably from the farm (Oko) of the earliest settlers, though alternatively-or additionally-it may be the Benin word (Eko) for a war-camp, We say Eko is a Benin word that means camp" After describing the activities of the armies of Benin under Oba Orhogbua, culminating in his arrival at what is now Lagos, Smith went on to add: "Sometime later the Oba appointed a ruler for Lagos to represent the interest of Benin and to forward tribute there. The man chosen is named in both Lagos and Benin Tradition as Ashipa" Smith says that by Lagos account this Ashipa was an Isheri Chief, while the Benin account says Ashipa was a grandson of the Oba of Benin. We shall come to this later. Smith was, however, satisfied that Benin had established it's ascendency in Lagos and had founded a dynasty there at some period before 1700.The dyansty's dependence on Benin, Smith found, was emphasized by the appointment of another Chief, the Eletu Odibo, who alone had the right to crown the Oba and who in early times probably maintained close connection with Benin,.(Eletu Odibo is a corruption of the Edo equivalent Olotu Odibo) "G.T. Stride and C. Ifeka, in their book titled Peoples and empires pf West Africa have this to say on the same subject: Oba Orhogbua was clearly a strong warrior for he enforced tribute payments from all parts of the empire and in the middle 1550s conquered all the coastal lands up to Lagos where he left a permanent garrison. Tradition in Lagos says that their first Oba, the Eleko of Eko, was a son of the Oba Orhogbua of Benin" It will be seen, therefore, that even if we were to disregard traditional history there is enough material from modern historians to confirm the fact that what is now Lagos was founded by an Oba of Benin who also gave it it's first ruler. But we really cannot disregard traditional history. In Benin tradition, and we believe the same of Yoruba and other ethnic groups in this country, one way to establish that an event in traditional history did occur is by the type of anecdote or adage that evolves from that event . Thus, for instance, We Edo people say that "Orhogbua gb'Olague,ona y'ukpe abekpen z'umwen rie Edo, meaning that Oba Orhogbua defeated Olague and used sword to bring his salt to Benin, This is in allusion of to the exploits of Oba Orhogbua while in his camp (Eko) from where he over-ran the place known as Mahin with it's ruler whom the Benin People nicknamed Olague. There Orhogbua discovered the common rock salt and brought it to Benin who thereby tasted it for the first time. Now the name "Ashipa has featured quite prominently (and rightly too) in the history of Lagos. After the Oba Orhogbua returned to Benin from Eko, he appointed a commander or an administrator, who was called Aisikpa to look after the skeleton troop left in the camp(Eko) until he returned again from Benin. He could no longer return having seen the situation at home. The name "Aisikpahienvoborre" which means "people do not desert their home-land. "This is how Aisikpa, whom the Yoruba now call Ashipa, came into the Lagos (Eko) history. Eko is still there as the traditional Benin name for Lagos; Ashipa has been retained as a senior traditional chieftaincy title while his descendants now retain the modern name of Oba of Lagos. The interaction of Edo people with others in distant lands must have inevitably resulted in cultural exchanges. Excerpts From a Lecture on the Evolution of Traditional rulership in Nigeria given under the auspices of the University of Ibadan, Institute of African studies on 11th September,1984 by Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Oba Erediauwa. 

Arosa:

the Oba of Lagos house hold still practise Bini rituals till today. you guy should ask him about Bini Lagos relationship

aloy-emeka:

Nigeria is on fire and on the brink of collapse and these bigots are here claiming who owns a damn city. Even the broad who call herself Ileke idi is even bragging with stealing other people's property when she lives free in Florida with no fear of anybody taking her property or even cutting her head off like amajiris do. I get scared when someone like her from a younger generation boast with a thing like that. You can imagine what the uneducated illiterate alayes are thinking. You can only imagine!!!

Arosa:

the Oba of Lagos house hold still practise Bini rituals till today. you guy should ask him about Bini Lagos relationship

*Ileke-IdI:

Nobody is saying there's no Bii culture in Yorubaland or vise versa.

If you open your eyes very well, you'll see that these Igbo rats on NL are trying to cause tension between Yorubas and Binis.

zstranger:

Shattap  rotten punni

Yorubas own lagos.

We are the best.

The smartest

The most astute.

We are better than Igbos in every every.

If you are not happy, come suck my d/i/c/k

homerac7:

first, i dont know what Komando is up to by opening this thread.

next, i wont blame many yorubas for getting sentimental about this

but unfortunately, there is no better tribe to match d historical accounts of lagos, ile ife, ijebu and ekiti better than d binis. d bini accounts are well documented wt references and highly logical. i dont make ds assertions to throw down any group, but just following facts. for every account d youruba gives abt those places, check out d bini version and common logic will show wc holds tighter.

for some people here asking of how bini obaship came to b, u need to read their accounts. same is dt of her influence in eko

never d less, dt doesnt qualify lagos as bini town, just d way igala land, ijebu, ekiti, asaba and other subjected territories of yore are not regarded as bini towns in modern days

Arosa:

There will never be tension between us, we all egbe Oduduwa.