The North is suffering like the rest of NIgeria.

They're innocent (maybe uninformed, uneducated) people. Blame the PDP, blame politicians for the circumstance of the North. Blame the almijiris and boko harams. But don't blame innocent citizens who are suffering with the rest of Nigeria.

Kaduna

One has seen the past, one is just waiting to see the future.

People wait to cast their vote by a house destroyed house in post election violence, during gubernatorial elections, in Kaduna, Nigeria, Thursday, April 28, 2011. Small crowds of voters nervously cast ballots Thursday in two states in oil-rich Nigeria hit hard by religious rioting that killed at least 500 people following the nation's presidential election

An elderly Muslim woman casts her vote in the rescheduled Kaduna State governorship election at Camp Road, Kabala polling unit in northwestern Nigeria's Kaduna State Thursday, April 28, 2011. The Kaduna State gorvernorship election was rescheduled to calm frayed nerves as a result of the violence that broke out following the declaration of President Goodluck Jonathan of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party as the the president elect by the Independent Electoral Commission. The private resident of Vice President Sambo in Zaria and Kafancha were burnt and hundreds of lives lost during the mayhem. AFP PHOTO/PIUS UTOMI EKPEI.

Grace Kenneth Ugwumba, walks inside her destroyed house after casting her vote in Kaduna, Nigeria, Thursday, April 28, 2011. Small crowds of voters nervously cast ballots Thursday in two states in oil-rich Nigeria hit hard by religious rioting that killed at least 500 people following the nation's presidential election.

Displaced NIgerians

A woman stands in front of burnt buildings in Kachia village, where violence erupted last week, in Nigeria's northern state of Kaduna April 28, 2011. Voters trickled out to polling stations on Thursday in two states in northern Nigeria where rioting killed hundreds last week, under the watchful eye of policemen on horseback and soldiers manning barricades

A Nigerian woman displaced during post-election violence that followed last week's presidential polls sits in a military barracks where tshe and others went to seek refuge against attackers, unable to vote during gubernatorial elections April 28, 2011, after they fled their homes in Bauchi the capital of Bauchi state, nothern Nigeria. Two Nigerian states hit hard by deadly riots after presidential elections went back to the polls for governor races today amid a security lockdown and with scores still displaced. Soldiers accompanied electoral officials to polls in Kaduna and Bauchi states and the electoral commission scrambled to find some 2,000 workers to replace those who refused to show up because of fears of violence. Police and military personnel in armoured vehicles patrolled the streets of Kaduna city, the capital of the same state, and set up roadblocks to search cars. Police kept a close eye on Bauchi city, the capital of that state.

Blind civil servant 53-year-old Shuaibu Abdu (R) is led by a a friend at the Hajj Camp in Kaduna, where displaced people are hosted on April 28, 2011. Blind civil servant Abdu, married to two wives and father of nine children is among hundreds of people in northern Nigeria southern Kaduna displaced following the violence that erupted shortly President Goodluck Jonathan declared as president elect. Nigeria has wrapped up a landmark election season, but thousands remain displaced by post-poll riots, living in increasingly squalid conditions and shaken by narrow escapes from armed mobs. Camps for the displaced have sprung up at military and police barracks across northern Nigeria. And while some of the displaced have returned home, others no longer have homes since they were torched in the rioting believed to have killed hundreds.

It is what their leaders have done to them and the rest of Nigeria.
Now that we are going to develop their areas, their eyes will start opening to their unquestioning attitude toward their bas'tard "born to rule" masters that have made them beggars and their kids, almajiri's (10 million of them).

There is a lot of material in the thread at the link below, that you should read in order to understand Nigeria and why many of us view the likes of Buhari as an abomination of the worst proportions. Better a frog than any of them beasts.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-658142.0.html

Beaf:

It is what their leaders have done to them and the rest of Nigeria.
Now that we are going to develop their areas, their eyes will start opening to their unquestioning attitude toward their bas'tard "born to rule" masters that have made them beggars and their kids, almajiri's (10 million of them).

There is a lot of material in the thread at the link below, that you should read in order to understand Nigeria and why many of us view the likes of Buhari as an abomination of the worst proportions. Better a frog than any of them beasts.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-658142.0.html

Yes, we hope Nigeria also develops their area. People are burdened with this misinformed mentality that North Nigeria is developed because of the Northern power before this election. They (Northerners) have been led astray and blinded by vile politicians. Purpose of this thread is to show that these people are also suffering like the rest of Nigeria.

My hope is that GEJ or who is sworn in on May 29 does a good job developing that area (i.e introducing education, eradicating thieving almajiris, etc)

As for your latter point, not sure I share the same POV, but I'll read up on the thread.

Misplaced Nigerians

An official of the Nigeria Red Cross walks past displaced women heading to Hajj Camp to receive relief materials from National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA) in Kaduna on April 26, 2011. As the governorship election is being held today in different parts of the country, the poll in Kaduna and Bauchi has been rescheduled for Thursday to assuage frayed nerves before the election.

A man carries buckets of water to douse still smouldering grain at Kafanchan central market on April 25, 2011 in Kaduna, northern Nigeria, where affected business men could be seen rumaging among their once flourishing shops, salvaging anything that may have survived the arson attack last week in deadly post-poll violence. Security fears and possible low-voter turnout could marr Nigeria's state governorship polls after deadly riots erupted following the presidential election, observers said. Bomb blasts have killed at least three people in northeast Nigeria, police said today, in the latest unrest to hit Africa's most populous nation after presidential elections and ahead of state governorship polls bringing the death toll from unrest in Nigeria's north following presidential elections on April 16 to more than 500.

A pretty underrated part of the whole storyline is that Northern Nigeria is so. . . far away from the rest of the world, in a certain sense.

Poor road/transportation networks linking the North->coast->rest of the world REALLY hurt Northerners.

I remember reading the following quote:

"I understand it costs more money to take a container from Lagos to Abuja [the Nigerian capital] than it does to ship one from China to Lagos. Unbelievable. Rail, hopefully, will change a lot of that."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/14/lagos-railway-change-lives-nigeria

Very amazing quote, no?

Fixing education, etc are all nice things to do. But imo if you don't improve transportation networks, I wonder how much will actually be accomplished.

Residents of post election violent flee Kaduna, Nigeria, Friday, April 22, 2011. Fearful of stoking more violence, authorities have been reluctant to release a nationwide death toll after the victory of the incumbent president, a Christian, in Saturday's election caused a wave of killings and arson attacks across the country's mostly Muslim north.

ekt_bear:

A pretty underrated part of the whole storyline is that Northern Nigeria is so. . . far away from the rest of the world, in a certain sense.

Poor road/transportation networks linking the North->coast->rest of the world REALLY hurt Northerners.

I remember reading the following quote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/14/lagos-railway-change-lives-nigeria

Very amazing quote, no?

Fixing education, etc are all nice things to do. But imo if you don't improve transportation networks, I wonder how much will actually be accomplished.

Which comes first? The chicken or the egg?

I believe education is the most important thing. With that intact, everything else follows. Give people good transportation network, what is it going to achieve, esp in the north? What will they do with it?

Women and children take refuge in Kafanchan , Nigeria, Thursday, April 21, 2011. An Associated Press tour of rural eastern Kaduna state Thursday with military leaders showed violence far beyond what federal authorities seem willing to acknowledge, with towns destroyed and the smell of decomposing bodies in the air.


These are innocent women and innocent children.

Ileke-IdI:

Which comes first? The chicken or the egg?

I believe education is the most important thing. With that intact, everything else follows. Give people good transportation network, what is it going to achieve, esp in the north? What will they do with it?

Buy and sell more cheaply? Whatever you import costs less. Whatever you transport south costs less to transport. Raises the amount of trade and business between the north and the rest of the world, thus increasing wealth.

I don't think the interests of say someone from Ekiti State and that of a northerner differ too much. If both groups think properly, they want better transportation networks linking them with the coast. . . that should be amongst the top items on the priority list (along with electricity.)

Anyway, regarding education. . . they have enormous FG allocations. So it shouldn't be too hard to fix this issue if they face it.

ekt_bear:

Buy and sell more cheaply? Whatever you import costs less. Whatever you transport south costs less to transport. Raises the amount of trade and business between the north and the rest of the world, thus increasing wealth.

I don't think the interests of say someone from Ekiti State and that of a northerner differ too much. If both groups think properly, they want better transportation networks linking them with the coast. . . that should be amongst the top items on the priority list (along with electricity.)

Anyway, regarding education. . . they have enormous FG allocations. So it shouldn't be too hard to fix this issue if they face it.

If the purpose of development is to increase wealth, then transportation is important.
Education is more rich than wealth itself. With education, people would be more enlightened and more pressed to find solutions to the problem the regions are facing.
Like someone said in another thread, literacy is linked to many issues like mortality rate, fertility race, health status and region's IGR.

I'd like the say that the transportation system (good road) is better in the North than in any Southern state. However, the main question is, what have they done with it? Everything goes not begin or end with agricultural produce, which the north is more familiar with.

What is the point of enormous allocation when they have wicked politicians? With education, they are more smarter with electoral decisions. Most of them don't see beyond religion when voting.

Ngu Aumbo, a Nigerian septagenerian, cradles her stump with her left hand, outside her mud and brick home where she lives with her children and grandchildren, on April 19, 2011 in the village of Dyamburuk, about 10 kilometres east of Jos, which suffered from post-election violence. Violence continued in parts of Nigeria's middle belt following the declaration of incumbent Jonatahn Goodluck as President following polls that have been cited as credible by both local and international observers.

Nigerian, Ngo Kande, 58, nurses a leg injury on April 19, 2011, sustained after she was attacked with a machette, outside her mud and brick home where she lives with her children and grandchildrenin in the village of Dyamburuk, about 10 kilometres east of Jos, which suffered from post-election violence. Violence continued in parts of Nigeria's middle belt following the declaration of incumbent Jonatahn Goodluck as President following polls that have been cited as credible by both local and international observers.

Ileke-IdI:


If the purpose of development is to increase wealth, then transportation is important.
Education is more rich than wealth itself. With education, people would be more enlightened and more pressed to find solutions to the problem the regions are facing.
Like someone said in another thread, literacy is linked to many issues like mortality rate, fertility race, health status and region's IGR.

I'd like the say that the transportation system (good road) is better in the North than in any Southern state. However, the main question is, what have they done with it? Everything goes not begin or end with agricultural produce, which the north is more familiar with.

What is the point of enormous allocation when they have wicked politicians? With education, they are more smarter with electoral decisions. Most of them don't see beyond religion when voting.

Man, it is what it is. If you cannot take the money you get and do anything useful with it, then who is under any obligation to help you further?

First utilize your resources fully. Then ask for more.

Anyway, if I'm a northerner, I'd first spend the money I get wisely (on healthcare, education, etc), then ask for better road/rail networks linking north and south.

IlekeBebe idi, I"ve been telling you all that the most marginalized Nigerians are the ordinary folks of the ND area and their counterparts in the North. The plight of these people as shown by your posts here and evident by a short visit to the rural areas in the ND, is a complete disgrace to all Nigerians.

The so-called leaders who hail from North, South, East, and West are responsible for this disgrace. Additionally, elite Nigerians such as you, IlekeBebe idi, ekt_bear, and others, who sit idly bye and allow these attrocities to continue without vigorously protesting, while continuing to elect the same irresponsible leaders, are co-conspirators. For that, I say, shame on you too.

Lmao

You guys have governed the country for most of its existence. The 80s and the 90s in which Nigeria's economy was destroyed (hurting the northerners the most), we are responsible for that? 

When will you guys take responsibility for your own lack of vision and planning?

If you'd done things properly, by the time 1999 rolled around, the North would be on relatively even footing. Rather than having half the GDP/capita of southern Nigeria ($718 is the northern figure, it seems: http://www.economist.com/node/18621789)

the violence seems to be directed towards the poorer parts of town.

why is that so i wonder.


and the northerners really do have higher poverty levels than the south.

gej should address this.

ekt_bear:

Lmao

You guys have governed the country for most of its existence. The 80s and the 90s in which Nigeria's economy was destroyed (hurting the northerners the most), we are responsible for that?

When will you guys take responsibility for your own lack of vision and planning?

If you'd done things properly, by the time 1999 rolled around, the North would be on relatively even footing. Rather than having half the GDP/capita of southern Nigeria ($718 is the northern figure, it seems: http://www.economist.com/node/18621789)

It is irresponsible to imply that only the Northern leaders ruined the country"s economy during those periods. There are prominent people from all parts of Nigeria who were the policy makers and who implemented the programs which ruined the economy. To blame the condition on Northern leaders and exclude their co-conspirators from the South is less than honest.

OBJ and PDP ruled for 16 years, did we see any improvements in the rrural areas of ND and the North? The answer is definitely not.

^-- At some point, you'll have to take responsibility for the mistakes your leaders made. This attitude of "my problems ain't my fault" leads to nothing useful.

There's nothing new here, IDI


Maybe for folks who haven't really spent time in the country, but for peeps like me who have spent a considerable chunk of our lives up north, No.
I think you should follow Beaf's advice and maybe read up whatever u see in the link he provided. Its not the job of ordinary southerners to 'save' them, that's the government's job. I'm sure you know that merely sympathizing with them is a waste of time. There's poverty in all parts of Nigeria, best believe that. Their conditions wouldn't change until their elites change and be a little more responsible. The Emir of Kano went to university in the UK and yet is sitting comfortably as the traditional and spiritual leader of a state with the most sickening number of almajiris. Hausa people , place so much premium on their leaders so by implication , they need to do much more than they have been doing over the years.

There's nothing new here, IDI


Maybe for folks who haven't really spent time in the country, but for peeps like me who have spent a considerable chunk of our lives up north, No.
I think you should follow Beaf's advice and maybe read up whatever u see in the link he provided. Its not the job of ordinary southerners to 'save' them, that's the government's job. I'm sure you know that merely sympathizing with them is a waste of time. There's poverty in all parts of Nigeria, best believe that. Their conditions wouldn't change until their elites change and be a little more responsible. The Emir of Kano went to university in the UK and yet is sitting comfortably as the traditional and spiritual leader of a state with the most sickening number of almajiris. Hausa people , place so much premium on their leaders so by implication , they need to do much more than they have been doing over the years.

ekt_bear:

^-- At some point, you'll have to take responsibility for the mistakes your leaders made. This attitude of "my problems ain't my fault" leads to nothing useful.

The point you are ignoring is that the co-conspirators/so-called leaders who hail from all partss of Nigeria, share the blame with the thieving leaders of the North for the demise of our people in the North and the ND area. An attempt to limit responsibilty for the said gross injustice to Northerners alone, is disingenuous.