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Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Gbawe: 2:42pm On May 05, 2011 |
http://www.osundefender.org/?p=16131 Aregbesola signs MoU with London Borough |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 2:48pm On May 05, 2011 |
Buddie, are you in a position to expantiate further on this Mou because it appear very generic to me and i cannot at present find specifics on how it will benefit the state. Maybe in the areas of staff training in muncipal administration |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by EkoIle1: 2:51pm On May 05, 2011 |
This is one of the many benefits of freedom, you get to move forward and do sane and rational things, you get to lead, you start looking out for your people and their future, you open up your community to the outside world for economic and cultural development. This is credible and competent governance 101. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by blacksta(m): 2:53pm On May 05, 2011 |
Miles apart in brilliance - Looking to better lives from systems that work whilst GEJ is busy signing memorandum of padi padi zoning agreement and ministerial post prostitution in his odubu branch. Please a choose your destiny - who is the real leader with plenty positive ideas and implementation Also remember that the Borough of Southwark does have many Nigerian uk resident employees with the right skill set to better Osun state |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by EkoIle1: 2:56pm On May 05, 2011 |
Lagosboy: It's self explanatory, you are selling yourself and telling the world what you have to offer/you're open for business and foreign investments. Many municipalities and chambers of commerce in Europe/, America and beyond invest outside their borders. If you don't sell yourself, who is going to sell you? |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by EkoIle1: 2:59pm On May 05, 2011 |
Looks like the new SW Governors have no time to waste for any sme sme, they hit the ground running. I guess the key phrase is perform or get out. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by spikedcylinder: 3:05pm On May 05, 2011 |
The Osun State flag? What is that? |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Nobody: 3:19pm On May 05, 2011 |
and how many more do we wanna sign? Though it might seem laudable in plain terms,hundreds of these have been signed by past state administrations with nothing meseaurable to show for it. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Gbawe: 3:33pm On May 05, 2011 |
mdsocks: This is a tad more strategic and deliberate IMO. Southwark has a large Nigerian population . Naturally many are professionals with valuable skills and experience. This is another way to directly target their input , involvement and patriotic commitment . |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by kodewrita(m): 4:26pm On May 05, 2011 |
In specific terms, what will be achieved by the MOU? **yawns and walks out** |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Nobody: 11:18pm On May 05, 2011 |
mdsocks: Which past administrations? Source please? |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Sunofgod(m): 11:22pm On May 05, 2011 |
Southwark? As in Peckham - Southwark is not in the UK - Its in Naija but located in the UK. Yoruba people full dey place - na wayo go dey involved. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by aletheia(m): 3:16am On May 06, 2011 |
Southwark Borough? Why not Alimosho Local Government in Lagos state as well? Signing an MOU with a UK equivalent of a local government council, and some people are getting excited. Plus ça change! |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by tpia5: 3:25am On May 06, 2011 |
how many people lo "sonu si london" from this exercise. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by ektbear: 3:34am On May 06, 2011 |
Seems sketchy. This Aregbesola guy had better sharpen up. . . deliver something real. We need real progress, not a bunch of smoke and fireworks. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by ektbear: 3:44am On May 06, 2011 |
I'm not trying to be a d1ck. But what exactly has Aregbesola done? It will be one year in November or so. . . What reforms has he made? What concretely has he done in Osun state? |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by doctorT(m): 4:19am On May 06, 2011 |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Let's give him time. Oyinlola don spoil ground no be small, |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by ektbear: 4:33am On May 06, 2011 |
Eh. . . I'm seeing Fayemi making a lot of moves. Reducing the amount of money spent on government (getting rid of all these special advisors and such), calling a panel to reform education, merging the state's universities to cut down adminstrative costs, this herding area so that cattle herders who stray out of it can be arrested and prosecuted, prompt payment of salaries, etc, etc. Granted, I've not seen Fayemi land any major investments from private business yet. But as far as the administrative side of being a governor? I think he has done quite well in what, 7-8 months on the job? Aregbesola needs to step it up. . . we cannot afford mediocrity and inaction in Yorubaland. EDIT: typo |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by semid4lyfe(m): 7:17am On May 06, 2011 |
He signs a shady M.O.U without any specific agenda and some peeps are getting excited and doing somersault? Well, what do I know. . .after all an ACN governor can do no wrong |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by hooged: 7:47am On May 06, 2011 |
ekt_bear: |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by kobikwelu(m): 7:58am On May 06, 2011 |
Southwark? As in Peckham - ***almost spills hot coffee on self due to excessive lafta*** In specific terms, what will be achieved by the MOU? painful reaction, but the truth |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Gbawe: 7:59am On May 06, 2011 |
To all those criticising this move , I would suggest you all do some research about how modern Governments work and their synergy with others regarding exchange of information, ideas, specialist knowledge and HR (human resources) interaction. Is this costing Osun State any money ? Must some of us just criticise to sound good or for the sake of it ? If the man was wasting money signing 'white Elephant ' project then I would understand . Instead he has signed an MOU with a Borough , employing a lot of Professional Nigerians, in one of the undoubted homes of administrative excellence in the entire universe . |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by KnowAll(m): 8:03am On May 06, 2011 |
http://www.busesatwork.co.uk/01-50%20images/012_MAL62.jpg I would not mind bringing some bendy bus to Oshun state and do a daily run of Oshogbo-Ife-Ilesha. A good co-operation between London Borough of Southwark would be in the area of parts for this bus. Aregbesola should be able to convince them to open a depot where we can source degradable parts like breaks, tyres, oil filters and so on. If he can do this the private sector would step in and run a bus service between Oshun State’s 3 big cities of Oshogbo-Ife-Ilesha. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by ektbear: 8:11am On May 06, 2011 |
@Gbawe: Be real. What sort of useless MoU is this?
Some Black Panther jibber jabber Osun flag Is he a governor, or a Yoruba cultural studies lecturer If you are flying to the UK, you'd better come back with a company who wants to build a BUSINESS in Osun State. Or provide a loan for Project X at a good interest rate. Or donate free medical care. *Something* You cannot just come back empty-handed. Is this MoU food for people in Osun to eat? Of course it costs Osun money. How many people went with him to the UK? Plane tickets are not free. And wth can this useless borough do? Boroughs are not in the business of giving away lots of valuable stuff for free. I could see if he was visiting the UK to talk to say a billion-dollar investment fund, maybe to convince them to invest in high-tech farming in Osun. That would be very useful. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Gbawe: 9:41am On May 06, 2011 |
ekt_bear: Do you know if he specifically went to the UK for this or this happened to be incidental to other consideration? There are no "feasibility reports" and no money-gulping "preliminary studies" concerned with signing an MOU as is the case for the 'birthing' of most Government initiatives in Nigeria. The Governor may have thought it expedient to sign this while in the UK. Even if he travelled to the UK for this then it is still within the budgetary allowance. Other Governors travel abroad fruitlessly 50 times a year !!! Anyway you are talking like typically crass Americans , knowledgeable and [b]respectful [/b]about nothing beyond the shores of the USA , when you call a UK borough "useless" . One thing the UK does well is administration along with welfare care for its people that is the envy of the World. There is a lot to be gained by Osun from the exchange of knowledge with a UK borough . It is not everything that has to be about the visible Rambo-style power projects. Britain gets it right , in many areas , because they pay attention to the little things , perhaps not tangible to many, that aid overall progress. As it is now Osun has recourse to troubleshoot Southwark Borough for administrative support, urban/town planning considerations, transport management , healthcare provisions , human resources management/training and other general issues . You seem to fall into the category of those who don't appreciate the intangibles of governance. Let me leave you with the notion that the "little" UK (according to Americans) are the masters of the intangibles. The UK , for example , is the insurance capital of the World . Did you know that? |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by ektbear: 9:53am On May 06, 2011 |
^-- My brother, don't make this some American/UK spat By "useless", I mean that most municipalities don't have any money/business/capital to bring or give. I'm not trying to disrespect this borough. . . I'm just saying that there is nothing really they'll be able to offer him. If he visited Howard County in the State of Maryland (another municipality chock full of Yoruba) and signed a MoU with the County Executive, I'd be similarly skeptical. . . just because I know that Howard County won't have anything really tangible to offer. They cannot gift off $1 million in goods/services. . . simply isn't in their budget. Anyway, fine. I'm just getting the sense that the Aregbesola guy is more flash than substance. He needs to roll up his sleeves and get to work. . . I don't want to hear about trips abroad unless he is bringing back business/investment with him. And regarding "other Governors travel abroad fruitlessly 50 times a year". . . well, I cannot afford for my governors in Yorubaland to do what other governors do. If he is just going to do the same things as everyone else, then why should I prefer the ACN to the PDP? We cannot justify mediocrity just by claiming that someone else is doing the same. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 10:19am On May 06, 2011 |
@ Gbawe In my first post below the bolded was the only positive thing I could think of from the MoU, anything apart from that would be a mirage and wishful thinking IMO. Lagosboy:Gbawe let us be honest with ourselves, I know it is always good to see the positives in issues and not always the negatives but we have to be objective at times and criticize so as to bring the best out of our leaders. I know you are ACN but you should criticize when some things are not going well. I like Aregbesola as a person and I know few people close to him and who also on ground with him in Osun state at present. However, I personally think he has not achieved much in his seven months of governance, I know PDP messed up the state but there is a proverb that says “ if it is going to rain in the evening we should already be seeing the movement of clouds by the afternoon” . Aregbesola does not have commissioners after 7 months in power. I am aware it is a political issue and they were waiting for the elections to be over so as to see who is available and be awarded positions. In the UK we both know well , opposition parties have shadow cabinets ready to govern at a anytime as they are familiar with what is happening in the government. No commissioners and SAs in govt means no policy direction in the state, means when commissioners and SAs are appointed , they will spend another 1 years developing policy direction , means after 2 years proper implementation might begin. It means the first year of the commissioners in power will be doing the same old things Oyinlola´s commissioners were doing in the state. Aregbesola is going too slow in everything and in my humble opinion talks more than action. He is good guy personally and I like him but I personally think he might be one of the flops after 4 years. My assessment is only based on the discussions I have with people around him and his actions in general. I hope I am wrong and he proves me wrong because I like him. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by hercules07: 11:09am On May 06, 2011 |
I hope those condemning Aregbesola are aware that Osun is number 33 on the list of states receiving allocations, has a large civil service and is bogged down by debts from oyinlola's administration, he is using his security vote and other monies allocated to governors to pay for the 20,000 people he employed, thereby indirectly pumping some money into the hands of the poor, he is also working on the agricultural sector, it is going to take some time but he will get it right. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by TeeJay6(m): 11:18am On May 06, 2011 |
Gbawe:For southwark? Your source is "Naturally flawed", I'm sure you meant traders, hairdressers, barbers etc |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 11:41am On May 06, 2011 |
hercules07: Let us hope he does as our prayers are with him. I was aware of the 20000 youth employment which was good. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Gbawe: 11:49am On May 06, 2011 |
Lagosboy: My brother , PDP mismanagement of Osun State was monumentally atrocious . It is similar to Edo where Oshiomhole met a state , in an administrative mess, impoverished by Igbinedion (perhaps also Osunbor) . Oshiomhole first had to battle the godfather-enshrined practices that meant Government department and function were run for the benefit of a few individuals. It is similar for Osun and Aregbesola will come good in time. What is important is that he has done some commendable things and the people of Osun are solidly behind him to the extent that they voted ACN across the board . It is instructive that this is the only State Ribadu won as well. His work is known to people of Osun and his approval rating is very high. http://www.osundefender.org/?p=15941 Adeoti stressed that Governor Aregbesola’s love for workers welfare since he came into office was unhidden explained that his adminsitration was conscious of the needs and demands of workers promising that their expectations would be met. |
Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by ektbear: 11:51am On May 06, 2011 |
hercules07: OK. So in a situation where you have cash flow problems, a bloated civil service, the solution is to create 20,000 more unproductive government jobs That cost $X per year from government funds, but only returns $Y in value (where Y is MUCH smaller than X) You are in year one of office. . . does it really make sense to bloat the government even further rather than trying to shrink it At least wait until year 3 or 4 to do that, if it is necessary to boost your popularity for winning an election. This is why it is so important to attract investment. . . then rather than paying for 20,000 jobs out of government money, you have someone else (an investor) provide the jobs for you. Then you can spend the money on healthcare, education, etc. Anyway, I am concerned. BTW, Osun is NOT 33rd in revenue! https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-300410.0.html#msg8234903 Ebonyi, Ekiti, Kogi, Nassarawa, Plateau, Taraba, Yobe, Zamfara all earn less money. Is the 40.1 billion naira that Osun received (at least according to the CBN table I linked to for whatever time period that was) too small? Governors in Nigeria have POWERFUL tools to generate more revenue. Land use act allows them to seize land for free. A creative governor should be able to use that tool and tools like it to raise money. Surely there must be some industrial farmers or real estate developers who he could lease prime land to to raise cash and create jobs. The possibilities are endless for a creative and go-getter governor. If the loans that Oyinlola took out are so burdensome, perhaps look into having them canceled. Or negotiate some better repayment scheme. Etc, etc. |
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