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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by theTranslator: 12:39pm On Jul 14, 2021
Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by cocolacec(m): 12:51pm On Jul 14, 2021
gidgiddy:
Nigeria is a truly funny country. It is one where those who did worse, blame those who did better. A typical example is Buhari, who has performed far worse than Goodluck Jonathan in 6 years, but will always blame Jonathan

They say that Awolowo, even Ahmadu Bello, wanted secession clause put in the constitution, but Zik opposed it, and as a result, it was not part of the constitution

Lets assume this is all true. What later happened? When Igbos seceded, the same Awolowo became a disciple of "one Nigeria"

The same man who they say was passionate about putting secession clause in the constitution, became the chief of "one Nigeria forever" under Gowon during the war.

With the benefit of hindsight, we now know that Awolowo was not a consistent man, he wanted secession clause today, and didnt want to hear anything secession later.

So why use Awolowo, a typical politician who shifts the goal post when it suits him, as an example?

Had Awolowo been a principled man who felt that every region should have the right to secede, as they say he canvassed for, he would have had no business serving under Gowon to destroy Biafra

Awolowo was a hypocrite when it comes to secession

Ojukwu and Azikwe were the biggest hypocrite for trying to steal Edo and Yorubaland under the guise of Biafra.

Igbos soldiers attack Yorubas in ore before Awolowo joined forces with Gowon.
Igbos created the Nigerian mess out of greed and are the greatest beneficiary of the unitary system.

Now your fraudster leaders have caged kanu to end your false biafran agitation ,only to support another fulani in 2023 presidency and take your usual houseboy job beside fulani.

If Nigeria splits today,hausaland will be greater than Igboland.

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by T9ksy(m): 12:52pm On Jul 14, 2021
BiafIntel:
Who considers that one in Igboland? He was born in Zungeru and an outright saboteur.



No one considered Zik in aliboland YET he was the president of the first ethnic organisation in nigeria-The Ibo state union, in 1948!

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by T9ksy(m): 6:33pm On Jul 14, 2021
gidgiddy:




Lets assume this is all true. What later happened? When Igbos seceded, the same Awolowo became a disciple of "one Nigeria"

The same man who they say was passionate about putting secession clause in the constitution, became the chief of "one Nigeria forever" under Gowon during the war.

With the benefit of hindsight, we now know that Awolowo was not a consistent man, he wanted secession clause today, and didnt want to hear anything secession later.

So why use Awolowo, a typical politician who shifts the goal post when it suits him, as an example?

Had Awolowo been a principled man who felt that every region should have the right to secede, as they say he canvassed for, he would have had no business serving under Gowon to destroy Biafra

Awolowo was a hypocrite when it comes to secession




Don't assume please, because zik truly opposed the inclusion of secession clause in our constitution then and even went further to threaten any one with such notion with treason.

Decade later, the same ibos ( who insisted on no secession clause in our constitution) now want to secede from the union they midwifed and expected Awo, whom you all colluded with your fulani masters, to incarcerate in 1963 on treasonable felony charges, to support your self-determination struggle.

Una neva jam.

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by Buckeyemedia1: 6:52pm On Jul 14, 2021
T9ksy:




Don't assume, please because zik truly opposed the inclusion of secession clause in our constitution then and even went further to threaten any one with such notion with treason.

Pre Independence Constitution no secession law, 1960 Constitution, no secession clause, 1963 Republic Constitution, no secessionist clause, 1979 Constitution no secession clause, 1999 Constitution, no Secession law, so where did this ipob & Oduduwa foreigners get their secessionist claim of separate Nigeria from?
Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by orisa37: 7:07pm On Jul 14, 2021
AZIKWE HAD ALWAYS WANTED A UNITARY GOVERNMENT TO ENABLE HIM OCCUPY AT LEAST SOUTHERN NIGERIA.

WHEN YOU'RE IN A VANTAGE POSITION, YOU ARE IN THE LOOTERS' CLUB AND SO WANT ONE NIGERIA.

THE MOMENT YOU'RE OUT OF POWER, YOU SEE GOVERNMENT FROM THE GRASSROOTS AS THE ONLY OPTION.

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by orisa37: 7:13pm On Jul 14, 2021
AWOLOWO IS THE ONLY ONE OF OUR FORERUNNERS IN NIGERIA THAT SINCERELY WANTED POWER FROM THE GRASSROOTS.

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by theTranslator: 10:55pm On Jul 14, 2021
orisa37:
AWOLOWO IS THE ONLY ONE OF OUR FORERUNNERS IN NIGERIA THAT SINCERELY WANTED POWER FROM THE GRASSROOTS.
exactly
Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by VOICEofORIENTAL: 12:32am On Jul 15, 2021
All this long epistle would not sell.igbo& Yoruba should be careful of their enemies.we shouldn't allow the mistake of our fathers to separate us,nor decide our future.YORUBA&IGBO THE DECISION WE MAKE TODAY DETERMINES OUR FUTURE...no one is perfect!I'm Igbo100% with lots of Yoruba friends & neighbors as well.long live Yoruba!!long live indigbo!!

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by louqas: 4:28am On Jul 15, 2021
gidgiddy:
Nigeria is a truly funny country. It is one where those who did worse, blame those who did better. A typical example is Buhari, who has performed far worse than Goodluck Jonathan in 6 years, but will always blame Jonathan

They say that Awolowo, even Ahmadu Bello, wanted secession clause put in the constitution, but Zik opposed it, and as a result, it was not part of the constitution

Lets assume this is all true. What later happened? When Igbos seceded, the same Awolowo became a disciple of "one Nigeria"

The same man who they say was passionate about putting secession clause in the constitution, became the chief of "one Nigeria forever" under Gowon during the war.

With the benefit of hindsight, we now know that Awolowo was not a consistent man, he wanted secession clause today, and didnt want to hear anything secession later.

So why use Awolowo, a typical politician who shifts the goal post when it suits him, as an example?

Had Awolowo been a principled man who felt that every region should have the right to secede, as they say he canvassed for, he would have had no business serving under Gowon to destroy Biafra

Awolowo was a hypocrite when it comes to secession

Shameless defence
Every elementary student of Nigeria politics know awolowo stands on one nigeria with powerful regions and a weak centre.....you even called him father of tribal politics ( i see him more clannish than Buhari)
Awo wanted secession clause included in the constitution as a safeguard but IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IBOS THAT FORCED ONE NIGERIA ON US...FROM CIVILIANS LIKE AZIKWE TO MILLITARY OFFICERS AGUYI IRONSI AND LATER OJUKWU

So ibos stop all the intimidations and blackmail....it wont work

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by orisa37: 5:20am On Jul 15, 2021
theTranslator:
exactly


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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by dalass(f): 11:40am On Jul 17, 2021
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theTranslator:
My opposition to secession-Zik Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:28 pm By Nnamdi Azikiwe When the 1954 constitution conference started, my good friend, Chief Obafemi Awolowo tabled a motion to the effect that in the new constitution, provision should be made that any state which feels like seceding should do so. I was opposed to it and said ‘no’ and said that once we have a federation, we are indivisible and perpetual. That was when we began to use that expression – ‘The Indivisibility and perpetuity of the federation’ – and that to secede would amount to treason. And so, a debate ensued. The Secretary of State then was Oliver Littleton, later Lord Chandos and he was very much interested and that was his first time in saying that the people of African descent were people actually debating at a high level. So a full day was given to Chief Awolowo to make his points. He spoke brilliantly as a lawyer. He made his points why secession should be incorporated in the constitution. He cited the case of the Soviet Union which is a federation, and that secession is written there so that any state in the Soviet Union can secede at will. He also cited the case of Western Australia and eventually he finished his case and was applauded. Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason We adjourned. The next day, I had to reply. I availed myself of the opportunity to, well, demolish the arguments of my friend and I cited the case of United States which based its constitution on that of the Swiss Confederation. That is Switzerland. I pointed out a case, I think, that of Texas versus White, where Mr. Salmon Chase, the Chief Justice laid down the principle – he was really an arbiter – that the union was intended to be perpetual and indivisible and that any attempt to divide the union by secession was treasonable. The North (NPC) supported Action Group. The question was then: Should we have secession? The Colonial Office came to our rescue. You know, the usual principle of Britain – ‘divide and rule’ (laughs) but this time, it was in our favour. So, the colonial office backed us. Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason and that was what led to this war, because Col. Ojukwu seceded and so violated the constitution. — Excerpt: Nnamdi Azikiwe’s interview with New Nigeria in 1975.

Your fathers forced 'one Nigeria', down our fathers' throat in concert with the British, in 1954 and the consequences of your fathers' greed and love for "dominance is what the whole country is going through as a Nation, today. Your fathers, in concert with the British made it a treasonable offense, punishable by death,for any one, who makes an attempt to break away, any component part of the country, from the Nigerian Federation. The main reason we are all hooked today, as a Nation.

So see?
I just tire abeg

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by Deadlytruth(m): 7:25am On Aug 06, 2021
gidgiddy:
Nigeria is a truly funny country. It is one where those who did worse, blame those who did better. A typical example is Buhari, who has performed far worse than Goodluck Jonathan in 6 years, but will always blame Jonathan

They say that Awolowo, even Ahmadu Bello, wanted secession clause put in the constitution, but Zik opposed it, and as a result, it was not part of the constitution

Lets assume this is all true. What later happened? When Igbos seceded, the same Awolowo became a disciple of "one Nigeria"

The same man who they say was passionate about putting secession clause in the constitution, became the chief of "one Nigeria forever" under Gowon during the war.

With the benefit of hindsight, we now know that Awolowo was not a consistent man, he wanted secession clause today, and didnt want to hear anything secession later.

So why use Awolowo, a typical politician who shifts the goal post when it suits him, as an example?

Had Awolowo been a principled man who felt that every region should have the right to secede, as they say he canvassed for, he would have had no business serving under Gowon to destroy Biafra

Awolowo was a hypocrite when it comes to secession

Awolowo wanted a peaceful and bloodless secession through referendum backed by law while Ojukwu launched a secession through a violent means that was sure to be accompanied by bloodshed. So exactly how was Awolowo a hypocrite for not keying into the violent and bloody method of Ojukwu?
Moreover, at the beginning of the Biafran secession project Ojukwu gave Zik a top position in which Zik was calling the shots in Biafra - the same Zik who had all before then sabotaged all Awolowo's efforts to make a case for secession. Now, put yourself in Awolowo's shoes and honestly ask yourself if you would agree to work in a secession project right under the supervision of a man who had been sabotaging your own efforts towards the same secession to the extent that he caused the colonial authorities to threaten you with charges of treason for pushing for the same secession earlier on.
Thirdly, Ojukwu was the inconsistent fellow because he himself had initially attacked Isaac Adaka Boro for trying to pull out of Nigeria, killed over 150 of his soldiers and forced him back to one-Nigeria with federal military might only for him (that same Ojukwu) to declare secession and expecting Isaac Boro to support him. Were you expecting Awolowo to believe that such a character was trustworthy and reliable for a joint secession bid?

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by Deadlytruth(m): 8:04am On Aug 06, 2021
AntiBMC:
At the tym, Zik thought he was doing what was best for everyone just like the present southern leaders are doing now for selfish interests.
Wrong! Zik read Anthropology from the prestigious Lincoln University, Pennsylvania, USA and by virtue of the course content he knew better than every of his contemporaries that there was no basis for a tightly bound union defined by the absence of freedom to secede in an ethnically heterogeneous country with opposing cultures and value systems. Also, while schooling in the US he saw with his own eyes that the country wasn't a tightly bound union hence made tremendous progress onto being a world power on account of that structure. So cut this crap of manufacturing excuses for Zik's dubious one-Nigeria dream which was nothing other than a subterfuge for his Igbo domination agenda that ended up boomeranging on you his brothers with deadly consequences.

AntiBMC:
Zik did that no kidding, but he never asked ur fulani kinsmen to start killing pple and taking their lands to forward their expansionist agenda. Ur own ancestor Dan fodio did that.

All expansionist projects go with bloodshed whether directed or not. Didn't Zik's brothers later go on a killing spree of all other tribes in the name of Jan15 1966 so-called revolution?

AntiBMC:

If Zik had envisaged that the fulanis will be going on killing sprees, he wouldn't have tried to stop d incorporation of the secession clause.
Don't tell me you are this much of a comedian. Are you suggesting that Zik wasn't aware of the massacre of thousands of his kinsmen in Jos in 1945 in Kano again in 1953 while he was opposing secession clause in 1954?


AntiBMC:

Times have changed now...and we are under different circumstances... so the secession must happen whether you like it or not. Cos if pple stay, fulani will still kill them...so they better die trying.

No time has changed except you want to be economical with the truth. Killings had always been in Nigeria since amalgamation. I just gave you two instances now. Even right during Ironsi's government there was massive killing of Igbos in the North yet he and Zik continued to fantasize a non-existent national unity to the extent of Ironsi promulgating Unification and Anti-secession Decrees and using federal military might to crush Isaac Boro's secession attempt. What made you Igbos change tune to secession agitation wasn't the killings of your brothers in the North but the ousting of Ironsi from power and the total foreclosure of the hope of Igbos ever ruling again.

AntiBMC:

The stv,pid Britain, we all know are manipulative dem0ns who do not give a hoot about black lives, what they care about is that their big marketplace place - Nigeria doesn't break up.
Britain's resistance to secession was aided by Azikiwe's moral support. All the British needed to criminalize secession was just a one dissenting region to the idea and they found that in the Eastern Region represented by Azikiwe. Six years after Britain's departure, Aguiyi Ironsi another Easterner promulgated Anti-secession Decree and got Isaac Adaka Boro sentenced to death by hanging for attempting secession, and you keep on blaming Britain? Was Aguiyi Ironsi a British man?

AntiBMC:

After all they have grown used to all d free money they milk from us. They supported secession to be treasonous then...but even they themselves just recently seceded from the EU. Isn't that the highest form of hypocrisy?
But didn't they give you an opportunity to debate secession clause and your kinsmen led by Azikiwe killed it on the floor of the parliament?

AntiBMC:

They did so without any bloodshed... while we as Africans continue to kill each other like animals in a jungle. This d reason dese white pple will continue to sit on our heads...cos we lack d capacity to do things intelligently. Thanks to ur super daddy in Aso Rock...let's not forget Dan fodio too.

Theirs was without bloodshed because they allowed it in their constitution unlike ours where the likes of your very kinsmen made sure it didn't make it into our laws just because you felt such a provision would hinder your domination agenda.

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by Nobody: 8:13am On Aug 06, 2021
Kdon2:


Awolowo the man with foresight!

Awolowo is the greatest Nigerian to ever live, even greater than MKO. That man is not celebrated enough. He would have made Nigeria Africa’s Switzerland and mostly sheded the slave trade colonial name bestowed upon us if he had made it to the presidential seat.


Now to our blodas to the east know that you will continue to suffer for Azikiwe and Ojukwu’s sins until you repent and change your ways. A word is enough for the wise.

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Re: Azikiwe's Strong Opposition To Seccesion ~1975. by Uchek(m): 5:41pm On Dec 29, 2023
U be OLODO. If you know when the war started and when Biafra invaded Ore enroute Lagos, you won’t vomit this junk you wrote here.


cocolacec:


Ojukwu and Azikwe were the biggest hypocrite for trying to steal Edo and Yorubaland under the guise of Biafra.

Igbos soldiers attack Yorubas in ore before Awolowo joined forces with Gowon.
Igbos created the Nigerian mess out of greed and are the greatest beneficiary of the unitary system.

Now your fraudster leaders have caged kanu to end your false biafran agitation ,only to support another fulani in 2023 presidency and take your usual houseboy job beside fulani.

If Nigeria splits today,hausaland will be greater than Igboland.

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