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Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by atheistandproud(m): 12:32pm On Jul 08, 2021
thepoweruser:


Thanks for the compliment, my atheist brother.

Someone told me the A13 Bionic is weaker than the Snapdragon 888. What do you think? Honestly I doubt it. I don't really care for Geekbench; I just use it to get an understanding of an SoC's abilities. Apple is still king of CPUs. I hate to say it, but even Intel can't beat them in performance-per-watt. If I were a betting man; I'd give the odds to Qualcomm x Nuvia. The Nuvia Phoenix is honestly the best CPU design I have ever seen in my life.

Right now, custom CPU IPs are becoming a thing; just like in 2011-2016, where Nvidia, Marvell Technologies, NXP (formerly Freescale), Intel (Atom grin), STMicroelectronics; Texas Instruments cry and even Xiaomi (with Surge S4 by their Pinecone division) and LG NUCLUN were in tha SoC bidness. Now Xiaomi's comin' back slowly, yo. Google too wants to join the party. Oppo and vivo ain't just standing there lookin' either.

I'll be waitin' for 'em wink

I agree with everything you have said.

As for the Bionic, I would agree based on current evidence that it's currently the world's best SoC with a huge caveat.

There's no way to objectively test its capabilities in tandem with the triple 8, due to it's different operating system and Apple's closed doors policy.

iOS is easier on the SoC than Android, not to talk about other stuff like GUI and different device drivers in the messy Mish mash that is the Android Ecosystem. These all play a role in final benchmark testing.

Till then, I accept Bionic is better with a pinch of salt. Especially with the loss of Nuvia to Qualcomm, the world could be changing pretty quickly.

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Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by LikeAking: 1:04pm On Jul 08, 2021
Why will I buy Tecno phones for 250k. GWAD FORBID.

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Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by pek(m): 1:18pm On Jul 08, 2021
My points of interest are :
One, your pluralisation.
Two, you classified Corolla as low level and Avalon as medium level.
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by Nobody: 2:18pm On Jul 08, 2021
whao. Tecno got this phantom x wrong.

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Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 2:30pm On Jul 08, 2021
pek:
My points of interest are :
One, your pluralisation.
Two, you classified Corolla as low level and Avalon as medium level.
Yes I did and last i checked the Avalon is even costlier than the Camry
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by angelfallz(m): 3:00pm On Jul 08, 2021
Nice write up using vehicles to compare and push your point across. I have no doubt that a lot of guys would easily understand what you're trying to say. But many ladies may not. So if you can, please also illustrate with something most ladies would understand.


As for the tecno phone, I always advice people to go for reputable brands, like Samsung, google pixel, Apple, Nokia.
In fact it is even best to buy a smartphone that comes with stock Android.

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Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by pek(m): 3:02pm On Jul 08, 2021
skywalker240:

Yes I did and last i checked the Avalon is even costlier than the Camry
Did I mention Camry?
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 3:08pm On Jul 08, 2021
pek:
Did I mention Camry?
I did, and the Camry should be better than the Corolla when it comes to luxury and comfort and also a more powerful engine and gives better torque. And also expensive than the average Corolla

The Corolla only saving grace is it's economic standard, of which it won't match the Yaris on that department
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 3:11pm On Jul 08, 2021
Xiaomi1:
whao. Tecno got this phantom x wrong.
Very extremely wrong Sir.
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 3:24pm On Jul 08, 2021
KrazyDave16:
Samsung S20, OnePlus 8 or the cheaper realme GT with almost similar specs but difference in the quality of parts used are out there and worth the money over this device but people on this thread buying this device to "feel fly" are on another spectrum of insanity.
Rightly said cool
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 3:27pm On Jul 08, 2021
Norman4real:
Like, how is someone supposed to take you seriously when the SD886 you quoted doesn't exist and when a simple google search will confirm that G95 is more powerful than dimensity 700. Only advantage of the d700 is that its more power efficient. .
Friend, just lay down the hate, calm down and let the market forces decide for themselves. That's how capitalism works. If Tecno continues down this terrible path of cheating customers it will naturally be kicked out of competition. There's no need for you to lose any sleep over it.
Typos and autocorrect sir

And where did you buy that fallacy about the G95 best the dimensity 700?
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by stevolinkon40: 3:35pm On Jul 08, 2021
skywalker240:

I did, and the Camry should be better than the Corolla when it comes to luxury and comfort and also a more powerful engine and gives better torque. And also expensive than the average Corolla

The Corolla only saving grace is it's economic standard, of which it won't match the Yaris on that department
I think he his trying to tell you the Avalon is a luxury car and not medium as you classified it.
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by Kirkman: 3:36pm On Jul 08, 2021
sunshineV:
how can you spend 250k on a tecno device and after 6 month, u end up on a queue at the nearest carlcare office with pop 4, camon 12, and spark 4 users...no be juju be that??
My brother the jazz nor be hear. Na follow come something.
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 3:37pm On Jul 08, 2021
stevolinkon40:

I think he his trying to tell you the Avalon is a luxury car and not medium as you classified it.
My bad, @ pek, please my apologies

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Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by jizzison(m): 9:16pm On Jul 08, 2021
skywalker240:
CAR'S ARE LIKE SMART PHONES

This is a long write, and there are bound to be typos, but I'll try my best to make you understand what I'm intending to liken the situation to.

You would agree with me that buying a vehicle, requires experience, performance, utility, millage, durability etc

And there are brands of cars that meets most terrains in different class or order

Also there are brands of phones that meets or are intended to serve certain purposes to it's capacity.

Knowing this, then it's acceptable that cars from different brands come in different class

Low class, middle class, luxury and exotic

Now the highest or should I say flagship or maybe the high-end in this case should be the cars from the exotic class

Toyota is a popular car brand in Africa, and this car would be our case study.

Note this, if we classify flagships or high-end as premium, then it's safe to say the Seqiua, Tundra or Toyota Land Cruiser should be the exotic in this context, and probably among the most expensive (not that accurate though, but in reality these cars are termed exotic in African terms and that's what we're going to follow)


Then the Middle class (mid-range in this case) should be the Avalon, Highlanders, Tacoma, RAV4, Hilux and maybe The Camry.

And then the low class (entry level and budget s) should be the Avensis, Corolla, Yaris, ECho, AYGo, Celica, Tarcel etc.



LIKE ENGINE'S, LIKE CHIPSETS

If you would agree with me, when buying a car either brand new or used, the most important thing to look out for is the engine

A sound engine guarantees sound and proper millage, but then the kind of car you're intending to buy comes with a type of engine that suits it's terrain

The engine controls almost 89% of every activities on the car, so therefore it's safe to call it the Brain

We can also liken that to the chipset of a smartphone the chipset is the engine and it controls over 95% activities on a smartphone

A high end chipset would definitely give you a high-end performance a mid-range or lower end on the other hand gives a low or pretty good at best avarage performance.

Engines most common with Nigeria and African road terrains are V8, V6, 4plug engines

A lot of us knows about engines and their powers the higher the engine, the higher the horse power and probably maybe the torque

The high-ends (exotic) in our case are cars with V8 engines.

The mid ranger (middle class) are cars with V6 engines

And the entry level/budget (lower class) are engines with 4 plugs

In the case of chipset, we're going to just deal on three SD886, Mediatek dymensity 700 and Mediatek G95

The SD 886 is the highest here

The Mediatek dymensity 700 in this case falls in the mid-ranger

The Mediatek Helio G95 falls on the lower class (this is originally a mid-ranger, but in this comparison, it's the lowest and cheapest among them


Now back to Toyota, if you're interested in buying maybe the high-end that matches the African terrains, rough patches, muddy roads etc then the Land Cruiser, got that covered both in luxury and power with it's powerful V8 engines.

Since the Land Cruiser matches luxury and power, it would be highly insane if Toyota puts a 4plug engine inside. Poor torque

A car designed for power, must definitely come with a powerful Engine so the Land Cruiser will always get a powerful V8 engines

On the other hand, A car meant for light and everyday casual use and also to ply simple terrains, will require a lighter and less power demanding engine, the Toyota Corolla or Yaris comes to the picture

You can't alter the power installed on it, i.e using it all day on a muddy roads and bumpy roads and moults, it doesn't work that way.

So the Toyota Corolla or Yaris will definitely come with a 4plug engine.

Now freinds, if Toyota should produce the 2022 Land Cruiser and installed the 4plug engine inside and then retails it for the price of a high-end Land Cruiser what would happen?

Your guess is as good as mine, they will start losing loyal customers maybe to Land Rover™ Range Rover that really comes with a proper V8 engines

A FLAGSHIP SMARTPHONE WITH AN INFERIOR ENGINE THAT RETAILS FOR THE PRICE OF A HIGH END IS SCAM

TECNO phantom X is like a Toyota Land Cruiser with a Corolla engine installed and still retailed for the price of a high-end flagship phone

That's what every sane person will call scam.

That's why sane people who were loyal to the brand would leave the phantom X and rather go for Land Rover ™ Range Rover i.e Samsung Galaxy S20 Fe with a befiting snapdragon 886 in the same price range (heck it's even cheaper)
You tried with the write up Skywalker.
I think we've touched just about every part of this phone to be honest.
I watched valor's review (YouTube) on this phone & he wished tecno used a Dimensity 1000+ chipset to better justify the price tag.
One part that got me laughing was where he played Genshin Impact at Max Settings, I noticed some stuttering then next thing he said was the phone got so hot he decided to iron his shirt with it.
With that said, the main selling points of the phantom X are the design & no ads. If camera is what you need, lol... Look elsewhere.
And if you're willing to splash the cash (250k), lol... I trust my 9ja niggas, iPhone XS Max (used), iPhone 11 (used), S10+, S20Fe, Mi 10Tpro, POCO F3, OnePlus 8 & more will do justice to that price tag.

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Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by VillagePipu: 11:00pm On Jul 08, 2021
Norman4real:
Lol, people's obsession with tecno is real. Now i see why this brand will continue to dominate. Imagine dedicating hours of your life to write all this when you simply could have just drank some water and gone about minding your business. Tecno lives rent free in your heads. grin grin grin

May your life be like Tecno phones.
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 5:26am On Jul 09, 2021
BennyDGreat:
Not trying to be bad person but there ought to be regulations in this industry to help Nigerians from falling into traps as this.

This is pure cheating!
Cheating at it's most glorious and iconic moment I swear.
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 5:30am On Jul 09, 2021
Gravatar:
So many automobile-related inaccuracies in this long story. Don't even know where to start.

The writer is definitely not a gearhead.
Okay sir, I admit it,


But am just coming from the direction of the local Nigerian context views on vehicles in general, if you get what I mean.
Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by sagieramos(m): 6:34am On Jul 09, 2021
Norman4real:
Like, how is someone supposed to take you seriously when the SD886 you quoted doesn't exist and when a simple google search will confirm that G95 is more powerful than dimensity 700. Only advantage of the d700 is that its more power efficient. .
Friend, just lay down the hate, calm down and let the market forces decide for themselves. That's how capitalism works. If Tecno continues down this terrible path of cheating customers it will naturally be kicked out of competition. There's no need for you to lose any sleep over it .

At least, the guy don educate some of us for free... and it's factual

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Re: SCAM Definition: Selling A Toyota Land Cruiser With A Toyota Corolla Engine by skywalker240(m): 7:15am On Jul 11, 2021
angelfallz:
Nice write up using vehicles to compare and push your point across. I have no doubt that a lot of guys would easily understand what you're trying to say. But many ladies may not. So if you can, please also illustrate with something most ladies would understand.


As for the tecno phone, I always advice people to go for reputable brands, like Samsung, google pixel, Apple, Nokia.
In fact it is even best to buy a smartphone that comes with stock Android.
Yes that's true, and they're the ones who buys these expensive phones the most.

What do you suggest we use to make them grab?

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