AlexBells:

As surprising as it may seem it is Nigerians that offer bribe because it seems like we always in hurry or at fault by default

lexy2014:


I didn't ask u to lay blame or about who is in a hurry or otherwise. My question goes thus:

are u saying that in d history of d Nigerian police force, no officer has ever demanded for bribe from Nigerians?

AlexBells:

Are you trying to say that the first bribe ever given in Nigeria that it was the police begging the offender for bribe or the offender seeking to evade justice was the one dangling bribe on the officers face, let's go down to the origin of Beibe, it usually starts with the offender and compromise

lexy2014:


I haven't said anything. I only asked u a simple question which u are finding difficult to answer. U are d one making claims and based on ur claims, I have asked u this:

are u saying that in d history of d Nigerian police force, no officer has ever demanded for bribe from Nigerians?

AlexBells:

The question shouldn't be demand for bribe the statement should be accept bribe, logically officers don't demand bribe, they accept or reject bribe, if you got no entanglements whatsoever with the officer, he will not just meet you on the road and demand bribe, if you know the context of bribery, if an officer meets you on the road without any prior entanglements and demand bribe that's not a bribe anymore but Robbery, these terms are often related and even confusing but different, for it to be a bribe it has to be an illegal gift often from an offender to an enforcer to for justice relief or undue favour

lexy2014:


U don't need all this plenty grammar to answer a simple question:

are u saying that in d history of d Nigerian police force, no officer has ever demanded for bribe from Nigerians?

AlexBells:

Yes, no officers have ever demanded for bribe, bribe is not a demand, bribe is a mutual agreement between an offender and an enforcer, they don't demand bribe they negotiate bribe and accept bribe, or they stage a broad day robbery

AlexBells:

Yes, no officers have ever demanded for bribe

lexy2014:


How is bribe not a demand but a "mutual agreement"? Is that d meaning in d dictionary?

What do u mean by "they don't demand bribe they negotiate bribe and accept bribe, or they stage a broad day robbery"?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?

AlexBells:

Yes, no officers have ever demanded for bribe, bribe is not a demand

AlexBells:

Now that you have mentioned the dictionary, as you can see in the screenshot, bribe is always given not demanded as a means of alleviating a crime or gaining undue favour, if they demand bribe from you without you having committed any crime or seeking undue favour then it is no longer a bribe but robbery

AlexBells:

Now that you have mentioned the dictionary, as you can see in the screenshot, bribe is always given not demanded as a means of alleviating a crime or gaining undue favour, if they demand bribe from you without you having committed any crime or seeking undue favour then it is no longer a bribe but robbery

lexy2014:


U read d noun. Did u read the verb where it said "to ask someone to do something....?

lexy2014:


Meanwhile, What do u mean by "they don't demand bribe they negotiate bribe and accept bribe, or they stage a broad day robbery"?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?

AlexBells:

To ask someone to do something IN reduction or For less punishment for a crime, you are alluding to the key point that bribe is not a point blank demand like, I demand you give me 100 million naira, for what?, for for you to understand the context of bribe you need to get to the origin

lexy2014:


Pls what is d meaning of "To ask someone to do something IN reduction or For less punishment for a crime"?

Can u give a definition of "point blank demand" and ordinary demand?

To ask someone to do something against his or her will in exchange for some type of reward is called what?

AlexBells:

Becuase bribe is not a demand, bribe is mutual between an offender and an enforcer. Both parties shall be party to the crime of bribery both the one that gives bribe and the one that recieved, but if it were mere demand only the one who made such demand is the offender while the other one is the victim then if someone demanded bribe from you for no reason it becomes robbery and you become a victim

AlexBells:

Sorry IN seduction NOT reduction to ask someone to do something against his will is force or let's use robbery, to ask someone to do something against his will with promise or seduction of exchange of reward is called bribery when at the end both party reached a compromise

lexy2014:


Is there anywhere in ur dictionary that u shared that says bribe isn't a demand but a mutual agreement?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?

AlexBells:

Becuase you the different between bribe and robbery is mutual agreement, both parties must agree for a bribe to take place that's why seductive acts are used in bribery but coercive act used in robbery, in robbery you arrive at an offender and a victim in bribery you arrive at double offenders

lexy2014:


Is there anywhere in ur dictionary that u shared that says bribe isn't a demand but a mutual agreement?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?

AlexBells:

Becuase in the dictionary it is stated that bribe is gift given for undue favour or to evade justice.

It can also be a form of seduction now does Robbers seduce you with a cash gift while stealing your gold bracelets worth less, so you see people pay bribe becuase maybe they don't want to go to prison when they committed a crime that should land them in such.

lexy2014:


Is there anywhere in ur dictionary that u shared that says bribe isn't a demand but a mutual agreement?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?

AlexBells:

Denotative maybe not explicit connotation maybe yes.

lexy2014:


Can u produce where in ur dictionary that u shared that says bribe isn't a demand but a mutual agreement?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?

AlexBells:

Why are you saying things like someone who is not in tune with languages, I have told you that bribe is a compromise and I have told you what you might regard as bribe but not bribe that there is clear distinction between bribery and robbery, bribery comes with seduction or mutual agreement, plain demand is not bribery until there is mutually beneficial medium, bribe is only a means to an end, the question is, what is the end,

lexy2014:


Since u are more "in tune with languages" than I am, then answering d following questions shouldn't be a challenge for u:

Can u produce where in ur dictionary that u shared that says bribe isn't a demand but a mutual agreement?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?

AlexBells:

The dictionary had told you that bribe is recieved, and I had told you the distinction between bribery and robbery now can you also produced apart from opinion from biased journalism an accredited research or publication where bribery is classified as a "Demand"

lexy2014:


U still haven't answered d simple questions:

Can u produce where in ur dictionary that u shared that says bribe isn't a demand but a mutual agreement?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?

AlexBells:

Can you also invalidate the part The dictionary had told you that bribe is recieved, and I had told you the distinction between bribery and robbery now can you also produced apart from opinion from biased journalism an accredited research or publication where bribery is classified as a "Demand

lexy2014:


All this grammar u are speaking have no bearing on what u were asked:

Can u produce where in ur dictionary that u shared that says bribe isn't a demand but a mutual agreement?

If u claim that they can "stage a broad day robbery", y can't they demand for bribe?