AntiChristian:

Jesus never mentioned that from Matthew, Mark until John!

Kobojunkie:
He may not have the term born-again in particular, but the sub-commandments I spoke of where included in, I believe Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

AntiChristian:

And after being born again you can still enter heaven or hell?

So what's the importance?

Kobojunkie:
You become born-again in order to gain access into the Kingdom of God, to qualify for what God promised through Jesus Christ. And yes, in the Kingdom of God are those whose journey will end in Hell and those whose journey will end in Heaven.

Those who do not enter into the Kingdom of God, all those who do not believe in God's Law, are those who are condemned to perish in the grave- cease to exist when they die, God's judgment since Adam.

AntiChristian:

Your own na another case o

36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. But those who do not obey the Son will never have that life. They cannot get away from God’s anger.” - John 3 vs 36

Kobojunkie:
It is all there even in John 3 vs 1 - 21
And in verse 36, He reiterates that those who do not believe in Him , remain condemned.
So, no, this is not another case but the same words written in the Bible for all to comprehend.

AntiChristian:

Anyways...I believe all Jesus preached before he left was for only the children of Israel.

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Your own na another case o

Kobojunkie:
So, why then did Jesus Christ, this after His resurrection, send His disciples into the World, to preach the very same Good News, He spent over 3 years teaching them before His death?

madegreatbygrace:



Even Antichristian can identify an heretical nutcase

AntiChristian:

I think we should first ask why Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.

Emphasis on "only"!
Or did God later change his audience?

31 This is what the Lord said, “The time is coming when I will make a new agreement with the family of Israel and with the family of Judah.

32 It will not be like the agreement I made with their ancestors. I made that agreement when I took them by the hand and brought them out of Egypt. I was their master, but they broke that agreement.” This message is from the Lord.

33 “In the future I will make this agreement with the people of Israel.” This message is from the Lord. “I will put my teachings in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
34 People will not have to teach their neighbors and relatives to know the Lord, because all people, from the least important to the most important, will know me.” This message is from the Lord. “I will forgive them for the evil things they did. I will not remember their sins.” - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34

Kobojunkie:
Yes, Jesus Christ was sent to the Lost sheep of Israel, those to whom God, through His prophets, made the promise to - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34.

However, that mission was finished when He died on the cross. And upon His resurrection, He threw open the gates of the Kingdom of God to the people of all the nations of of World, just as God promised.

AntiChristian:

I already knew this is where you'd end. But the Islamic stance is that Jesus was sent to only Israel. Just as Noah, Moses and some others were sent to their nation only.

God's audience no dey change after His messenger dies!

Kobojunkie:
God didn't change the audience, He instead included the people of of nations into the New Covenant/agreement, embodied in the person of Jesus Christ, as He said He would in Jeremiah 31, just as He also promised in Genesis when He declared He would bless the nation's of the world through the seed of Abraham.

If you follow Jesus Christ's own story, He told you He was sent to to Lost sheep of Israel(the sinners in the land) and He finished His duty by them, living according to the Old Covenant Law of Moses and dying at the end to redeem them from it.

When Jesus Christ rose from the dead, He then sent, not Himself, but His disciples, into the world to bless the people of the nations of the world with the same Law that He taught to them.

AntiChristian:

That's what I'm saying. God didn't intend to include everybody before as nowhere was this mentioned explicitly.
Anyways, as I said before I prefer the explicit verses below:

Allah, Exalted be He, says,
“Say (O Muhammad): ‘O mankind! Verily, I am sent to you all as the Messenger of Allah - to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth.’” (Surah Al-A’raf, 7:158)

“And We have not sent you (O Muhammad) except as a giver of glad tidings and a warner to all mankind, but most men know not.” (Surah Saba’, 34: 28)

Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “And We have sent you (O Muhammad SAW) not but as a mercy for the Aalameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists)” [al-Anbiya’ 21:107].

Kobojunkie:
God didn't intend but His Law, Jesus Christ did? Interesting claim!

AntiChristian:

Where in Jeremiah 31 did God plan to save the world outside Israel?

Jesus Christ is your God's Law?

Kobojunkie:
God did mentioned that all people would be impacted by His New Agreement, did He not?
Jesus Christ is the New agreement promised by God, the New Covenant/Law, only not in the land of Canaan but in the Kingdom of God.

AntiChristian:
The same new agreement that said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel?

Maybe a typo sha!

Kobojunkie:
No, it was not a typo of any kind. Jesus Christ was sent to pay the ransom for those of the lost sheep of Israel and this He did with His very life... so as to buy them from the Old Covenant Law which they were ladened with and into the New Covenant, which He embodies.

So His life and death was to the Lost sheep of Israel - the mission He had only to the Jewish sinners ended with His life on the cross. However, His resurrection was to all of mankind.

AntiChristian:

Where did Jesus explicitly states all these and to whom?

Kobojunkie:
State what in particular?

AntiChristian:

You last claim that I boldened.

Kobojunkie:
I think it is best I should say that it was revealed to me about reading through many of of books of scripture - from old to new.

AntiChristian:

34 People will not have to teach their neighbors and relatives to know the Lord, because all people, from the least important to the most important, will know me.” This message is from the Lord. “I will forgive them for the evil things they did. I will not remember their sins. - Jeremiah 31 vs 34

oluwaahmed:
U left the whitemans religion for the wahabi religion. You are in serious need of mental emancipation.

AntiChristian:
The same new agreement that said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel?

Maybe a typo sha!

19 I will put a mark on some of the people. I will send some of these saved people to the nations of Tarshish, Libya, Lud (the land of archers), Tubal, Greece, and all the faraway lands. Those people have never heard my teachings. They have never seen my Glory. So the saved people will tell the nations about my glory.
20 And they will bring all your brothers and sisters from those other nations to my holy mountain[g] Jerusalem as an offering to the Lord. Your brothers and sisters will ride on horses, mules, camels, and in chariots and wagons. They will be like the gifts that the Israelites bring on clean plates to the Temple of the Lord.
21 I will also choose some of these people to be priests and Levites.” The Lord himself said this. - Isaiah 66 vs 19 - 20