Rickmann:


That's football bro..
Wasn't it same Pep that Tuchel beat three straight times last season? Something that has never happened to him throughout his career..to makes matters worse, Tuchel beat him in UCL finals (when it mattered most)..

I think the problem is that, most coaches and players are scared of him and he (Pep) tends to keep feeding on their fears...Even before any game against Pep's side, they ve lost the game in their heads already.

Guardiola doesn't have two heads ok, he is human and very beatable like every other Coach when you show more hunger and fight than him.
That's his weakness but only a few coaches know that.

oga since pep coaching career no coach has won d league twice in a league he is competiting at spain jose only won d league once at germany nobody at epl only conte n kloop won it once dont u think pep has 2 head and d guy is special. Put him at manutd e wil bring d best of greenwd n rashord just as e turn sterling 2 a beast.

paulolee:

dnt even place pellegrini on d same sentence with pep wen talking about city doiz...u said he didnt get proper funding, why cnt he resign like conte did in inter n even poch did in totenham?
he tried wen he started BT his last season was a disaster, city fighting to make top 4, got beaten by dt bad van gaal squad, d worst was dt his city lost 18 games out of the 19 dey av bin trailing at half time, can u say same for pep??
u are quick to talk about spending as if coaches are forced to stay if demands aint meant..
u tink its easy to get big names dt would deliver abi? u forgot ur pellegrini broke d bank for players like KDB, Fernandino n even bought lampard, wat happened to d flops like mangala, jovic n even boni dt he didnt use?
wat about d likes of kompany dt was a flop under him BT was a beast under pep?? u cnt even compare the 4-4-2 pattern of pelle to d free flowing attacking pattern of pep na.....

Is there any title Pep won at city that Pellegrini did not win? Let him win something no one has done.

Pierocash:
Man City that Crystal Palace flogged at Etihad,Chelsea crushed them like banana pills.

That isn't how to rate football. One team can give u a tough time,another team you beat convincingly will destroy such team with ease.

ManCity have lost more than 3 matches this season while Chelsea lost only 2. Even with ten men wolves ,they struggle to get away with a goal. Chelsea is the favorite for the title. A team without their midfield maestros of Kovacic, and Ngolo Kante,yet still just 2point behind.

Na only one match una go lose again to move down to 6th before una eyes go clear

SUPERPACK:
Is there any title Pep won at city that Pellegrini did not win? Let him win something no one has done.

You cannot compare Pellegrini to Pep in any way Sir, tho they have done well for City but Pep's record is miles ahead of him, the only manager to bring aside Pep is Roberto Mancini cos he brought us the first EPL title and started the revolution in Manchester City after the takeover by Sheik Mansour.

paulolee:
pep is the best coach in the world right now...assuming he is doing such in spain n Italy or Germany, epl fans would say its bcox of no competition..
see how he is turning the mighty EPL to farmers league, beating teams anyhow as if its French league n nobody is talking, no media hype bcoz he isnt british..
for those saying its bcoz he spent billions on players, pep is leaving wen his contract expires, we would see if the new man would meet up with this level dt pep had raised too high..

Na this kind thread nahim we both fit dey on the same page

Joebayo217:
They should not allow pep to buy any players for d next 2yrs dis man has done more harm to d premier league club

Na only grealish we don buy since last season o hope you know

paulolee:

so wat about dose dt spent more n won nothing? Fergie spent 26 years in united to be named d greatest but pep is just on his 6th season and he can e placed below Fergie n wenger..
una jus de talk asif na moni de determine trophies, if its dt easy, Newcastle go spend more to dominate EPL bcoz dey ar rich..
abeg put some respect on pep's name

Ole spend all the money in this world and won them 0 trophy and here they are saying trash about Pep their nightmare....

Joebayo217:
respect Pep can't win ucl without Messi he goes to Bayern he still didn't win it same goes to man c.look at tuchel how much dis coach spent to win d ucl same goes to klopp.pep is a fraud dis show that if not given enough money he won't deliver

Do you know how much Tuchel spent In PSG without winning the UCL? You talk asive UCL is won with money.....
Head to head Pep and Tuchel who is better as a manager answer me?

SUPERPACK:
Is there any title Pep won at city that Pellegrini did not win? Let him win something no one has done.

table don shift...can u conpare dis pep city with dt of pellegrini?
can u compare how pep dominated EPL asif he owns d league n thr beast he built in d city of Manchester than wat pelle did?
una jus de yarn dust

Lamasta:

Do you know how much Tuchel spent In PSG without winning the UCL? You talk asive UCL is won with money.....
Head to head Pep and Tuchel who is better as a manager answer me?

Most of these guys no know football. their comments dey make me laugh and vex at the same time. Most of them think say football start and end in England thats why them dey underrate the achievements of players, managers and clubs outside England.

No be only Pep spend money?? Klopp broke world record to sign VVD, they did same for Alisson, signed Fabinho, Salah, Mane, Keita but na only Pep own dem dey see.

One thing is to spend big another thing na to make the players click. See Man united for example..... they've been spending big but nothing to show. i remember how they beat Pep to sign Fred and Sanchez. i dey very sure say Fred, Sanchez and even Jorginho for play better at City cos Pep for bring out the best but Mourinho think say signing wetin Pep dey go for go bring same success for am but e no work cos he couldn't maximize their potentials

Most of them forget say Pep needed to overhaul the squad when he joined cos age no dey Yaya Toure, Silva, Kompany, Zabaleta....... he replaced Nasri, Wilfred Boni, Sagna, Joe Hart, and many others with better players abi coach wey sell no sopos get replacement??

Any manager can win the league but only a genius can dominate afterwards.......... They should learn to respect that man.

The days Man u dominated the league under Fergie, many people forget say most clubs no get money to compete with Man U financially and the competition was much lesser unlike now. it was only Wenger that posed stiff competition otherwise Man u would have turned EPL to farmers league back then.

Abi no be so Paulolee??

i get the highest respect for Klopp and Guardiola

paulolee:

table don shift...can u conpare dis pep city with dt of pellegrini?
can u compare how pep dominated EPL asif he owns d league n thr beast he built in d city of Manchester than wat pelle did?
una jus de yarn dust

He dominated the small teams, bro. He also had an extensive squad to play each game even when other clubs players are down due to injury. This is not La liga were he was beating Atletico, Madrid and Valencia with no challenge. It took him two years to get an Epl win against Man utd which was this November.

Check the chart below and see how he dominated La liga top sides, in Epl every match is not sure.

Godsofsoccer:

He said this season.
You've lost a whooping 4 matches plus this season against teams that aren't even standard.
Stop making needless mouths.

No be you go first top table no win league.

PSG, RP LEIPZIG, THFC and Crystal Palace? So did City finish second in the UCL group stage? As they lost to Crystal Palace did they not beat Chelsea on Chelsea's ground?

Pierocash:
whether they are all in EPL or not, is it not ManCity that played the 3 matches?

Defeat is defeat, it has nothing to do with the league or cup.

How can a team that lost 3 games be better than the one that lost only 2?

Because City lost 4 games in 2018/19 and Liverpool lost 1 yet who won the league that season?

SUPERPACK:
He dominated the small teams, bro. He also had an extensive squad to play each game even when other clubs players are down due to injury. This is not La liga were he was beating Atletico, Madrid and Valencia with no challenge. It took him two years to get an Epl win against Man utd which was this November.

Check the chart below and see how he dominated La liga top sides, in Epl every match is not sure.

Did his reign in England start 2 years ago??

Ole didn't lose to Pep in 2years is different from, "it took him two years to get an EPL win against Man utd which was this November".

And do you also know last season was the first time he lost 2 Man u at old trafford in the league??

kenzysmith:
If care is not taking pep will turn england to one man league, look at leeds chelsea struggled to win with penalty look how mancity is beating them like theif! Chai the whole premier league managers should protest for him to leave before he destroy england football . Corabo cup 4 in a row never been done b4, domestic treble never been done before, 3 epl in 4season . Only liverpool are looking likely to give then a run but afcon is around d corner. mancity ve just marez who is nt a regular to lose. Chai mancity done enter top and they re capable of winning from now till may they did it 2yrs ago when they won d league by a point.

People like you should watch football to entertain yourself and move on, not for you be analysing it...

OJEEMAH:
Most of these guys no know football. their comments dey make me laugh and vex at the same time. Most of them think say football start and end in England thats why them dey underrate the achievements of players, managers and clubs outside England.

No be only Pep spend money?? Klopp broke world record to sign VVD, they did same for Alisson, signed Fabinho, Salah, Mane, Keita but na only Pep own dem dey see.

One thing is to spend big another thing na to make the players click. See Man united for example..... they've been spending big but nothing to show. i remember how they beat Pep to sign Fred and Sanchez. i dey very sure say Fred, Sanchez and even Jorginho for play better at City cos Pep for bring out the best but Mourinho think say signing wetin Pep dey go for go bring same success for am but e no work cos he couldn't maximize their potentials

Most of them forget say Pep needed to overhaul the squad when he joined cos age no dey Yaya Toure, Silva, Kompany, Zabaleta....... he replaced Nasri, Wilfred Boni, Sagna, Joe Hart, and many others with better players abi coach wey sell no sopos get replacement??

Any manager can win the league but only a genius can dominate afterwards.......... They should learn to respect that man.

The days Man u dominated the league under Fergie, many people forget say most clubs no get money to compete with Man U financially and the competition was much lesser unlike now. it was only Wenger that posed stiff competition otherwise Man u would have turned EPL to farmers league back then.

Abi no be so Paulolee??

i get the highest respect for Klopp and Guardiola

You said it all jare they just want to drag Pep down even when they know he's a genius who has been consistent for the past 10 years.....

Lamasta:

You said it all jare they just want to drag Pep down even they know he's a genius who has been consistent for the past 10 years.....

The same people that called Fergie that coached man u for 26years GREAT still dey criticize Pep wey don tour 3 countries.

After all the hype that he can't dominate EPL like he dominated La liga, now wey e don monopolize the almighty English league, they don set new standard say e must win UCL with a different team before they acknowledge his greatness.

They are all hypocrites..... They should measure Fergie and Pep using same standard let's see the result.

OJEEMAH:
The same people that called Fergie that coached man u for 26years GREAT still dey criticize Pep wey don tour 3 countries.

After all the hype that he can't dominate EPL like he dominated La liga, now wey e don monopolize the almighty English league, they don set new standard say e must win EPL with a different team before they acknowledge his greatness.

They are all hypocrites..... They should measure Fergie and Pep using same standard let's see the result.

Seconded

Android17:
PSG, RP LEIPZIG, THFC and Crystal Palace? So did City finish second in the UCL group stage? As they lost to Crystal Palace did they not beat Chelsea on Chelsea's ground?

The point is; any random team can beat you and you should stop making noise. Topping the table isn't same as winning the league. Wait till the end of the season.
City ain't shit.

Godsofsoccer:

The point is; any random team can beat you and you should stop making noise. Topping the table isn't same as winning the league. Wait till the end of the season.
City ain't shit.

But any random team can't beat Chelsea?

Android17:
But any random team can't beat Chelsea?

How many random teams have beaten Chelsea in this season's PL?

Godsofsoccer:

How many random teams have beaten Chelsea in this season's PL?

Have you not lost 3 games?

Android17:
Have you not lost 3 games?

I'm not a Chelsea fan actually, when did Chelsea lose three games in this season's PL?
Or you didn't see the PL part?

Godsofsoccer:

I'm not a Chelsea fan actually, when did Chelsea lose three games in this season's PL?
Or you didn't see the PL part?

City have lost just 2 games as well in the PL. You know, the PL part?

Android17:
City have lost just 2 games as well in the PL. You know, the PL part?

Tottenham and Crystal Palace aren't even in form to trash City like that. Chelsea/Liverpool can easily get a draw but very hard to lose to some random teams like City.

Godsofsoccer:

Tottenham and Crystal Palace aren't even in form to trash City like that. Chelsea/Liverpool can easily get a draw but very hard to lose to some random teams like City.

Okay but did City beat Chelsea on Chelsea's ground?

The first screenshot is the top spending club on player transfers from when the Sheikh came in, before Pep came in. Man City were top spenders.

The second screenshot is the top spending club from when Pep took over until date. Man City are still top spenders.

Man City is a formidable side now and the consistent spending plays a big role in it.

Pep Guardiola is one of the greats in football. But Man City transformation began and is sustained by the Sheikh's pockets.

What trophy had Man City not won before Pep came in that they have now? What stunning PL achievements had not existed before Pep came in? By what modality is this dominance word being used? It's not like he picked Man City from the gutters.

kenzysmith:
If care is not taking pep will turn england to one man league, look at leeds chelsea struggled to win with penalty look how mancity is beating them like theif! Chai the whole premier league managers should protest for him to leave before he destroy england football . Corabo cup 4 in a row never been done b4, domestic treble never been done before, 3 epl in 4season . Only liverpool are looking likely to give then a run but afcon is around d corner. mancity ve just marez who is nt a regular to lose. Chai mancity done enter top and they re capable of winning from now till may they did it 2yrs ago when they won d league by a point.

how many champions league does he have in England?

DesChyko:
The first screenshot is the top spending club on player transfers from when the Sheikh came in, before Pep came in. Man City were top spenders.

The second screenshot is the top spending club from when Pep took over until date. Man City are still top spenders.

Man City is a formidable side now and the consistent spending plays a big role in it.

Pep Guardiola is one of the greats in football. But Man City transformation began and is sustained by the Sheikh's pockets.

What trophy had Man City not won before Pep came in that they have now? What stunning PL achievements had not existed before Pep came in? By what modality is this dominance word being used? It's not like he picked Man City from the gutters.

Its not about what they won and didn't win before Pep. Mancini and Pellegrini both won the league with City but no dominance. Do you know, Should Man City win the league this season, it will be their 4th league title in 5years and you still don't consider it dominance??

Add 4 or 5 leagues to the number of FA cups, Carabao and Community Shield and you will see he has won every available trophy in England more than twice.

See any good coach/ manager like Mancini, Pellegrini, and Conte can win the league but it takes a genius to dominate especially in the Premier League where the purchasing power of a club like Man City can also be matched by Chelsea, Man United and even Liverpool.

Arsenal don even spend much more than Liverpool but check their achievements in the past few years. The major difference here is the brilliancy of their managers.

The screenshots you posted shows Man united is not far behind in terms of expenditure but what do they have to show?? Absolutely nothing.

make we no deceive ourselves, Pep na genius

There was a question I put out in that series which you avoided answering. What stunning PL achievements had not existed before Pep came in?

Winning 4 out of 5 PLs isn't new to PL. It has been done before. Most recently, Three different times by Ferguson. by the same manager. The same Ferguson he is being 'casually compared to'. Stop throwing dominance around. We have lived through dominance.

Is it surprising that they did it? Of course not. They've always been close to winning, even in the years they didn't win it. All teams who have managed back-to-back wins have that in common. They've always remained in the top 3 consistently.

In the first six years under the Sheikh, before Pep, the only time Man City finished outside the top 3 was the season before he was brought in. Before then, they always finished in the top 3, winning 2 out of 5 PLs. In 5 seasons under Pep, they've won 3 out of 5 PLs, remaining in the Top 3 all the while. Man City are more formidable now, but they weren't from ground zero unlike a number of sides who eventually won the PL.

The purchasing power can be matched, but it was never matched and Man City certainly have the goods to show for it. It's a lesson for other clubs to pick up their recruitment to get where they want to be. Arsenal don't really spend as they should, and you can't even compare them to Chelsea, whose consistent successes started way way late than Arsenal's.

In Man United's defence, you could take a stroll through their spending a decade before the Sheikh and you'ld see that it has been low compared to the successes they've had. It's what they are paying for until date as they players were allowed to age and burn out to create a new template for the new boss, without the consistent recruitment to go with it. That's a club's poor decision making. In others' favour.

I do not like to talk down Pep so. What he has done is amazing, in just 5 years of being here but come on, this is the PL, where a number of sides, Man City inclusive, have tasted enviable success along the way. It's not a two-way horse or worse. There have been many managers who have done clearly astounding feats in their own rights. There are many clubs who could take their claims to the title. The standards are a bit higher here. The pockets are deep too.

Players were not overpriced in Fergie's era. Besides, Fergie won as many games due to poor officiating. Pep na correct coach.

Joebayo217:
Fergie no spent £1b to win league unlike pep dat needed £1b to win d league

Tooreda:
Players were not overpriced in Fergie's era. Besides, Fergie won as many games due to poor officiating. Pep na correct coach.

Downplay the Sheikh's pockets all you want, but don't forget there were richer clubs in the PL too, even before the advent of Man City's most recent owners. Man City have outspent and are outspending all PL clubs under the Sheikh; player overpriced or not.

If Man Utd's successes were due to poor officiating, were the players claiming outrageous best players positions and awards time after time also due to 'poor officiating'?