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Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by visijo(m): 4:53pm On Dec 28, 2021
cliqtips:
no, he doesn't.
because Trailer will only show you the intriguing part not the bad part
that was what he said..
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by Uyi168: 4:56pm On Dec 28, 2021
yusluvad:
Dem don go collect loan from the popular loan shark 'Sokoloan'. I hope they pay back on time, before trouble start knocking at their gates in Camp Nou... cool cool cool
.
Saka loan.. grin cheesy
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by YoungAncient1: 4:59pm On Dec 28, 2021
Mumu Barcelona be putting 1bn buyout clause on players that can't tie down regular place in other top teams.
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by BenzEne1(m): 5:13pm On Dec 28, 2021
uunwanaobong3:
It is always funny when some people complain that man utd is not good enough for the title, when infact they have gathered a squad of super star all Over the world.

The problem with man utd started when sir Alex Ferguson left man utd,.... Instead of sir Alex to hand off and leave to allow utd board to form a new structure which will take the club forward and appoint a coach that fit into a new structure, HE imposed his successor (David Moyes) on man utd,..... Moyes was called the chosen one and the next big thing to happen to English football in terms of coaching,..... Moyes players signings and decisions were influence by former players and Ferguson, Moyes has little or no input on his playing squad, he was not given freedom or time to input his football philosophy or build his squad before he was fired......... Then came Van Gaal (popularly known as the Football philosopher) hugely successful coach, he opposes Alex Ferguson way or United way, he wanted to introduce his philosophy of tiki taka into man utd, as we all know two captains can not sail a ship....... The greater force (sir Ferguson) boot out the lesser force (van gaal), he wasn't given time and backing from the board.
Then come the special one Mourinho, money were splash on super stars, enjoy support from sir Alex, he quickly notice that the much talked about United way wasn't taking them to any way so he switched to short term fixed of ultra defensive and counter attacking football, it work out so well that they were unfortunate to find themselves second on the table in a season that mancity had 100 points, But this measure that Mourinho used was a short term measure which can not be sustain over a long time, so when he tried changing it for attractive football due to pressure from the fans and board, it backfire and Mourinho was sacked.
Then came the fans favourite who understands man United way, hugely supported by sir Alex,.... He went about recruiting big names and spent more money than any coach in the history of football but nothing to show for it, he was forced by former players, fans and sir Alex to buy c.ronaldo despite having no need for him, a mistake that end is coach career at man utd.
And now man utd had gone ahead to get Ragnick popularly known as the God of modern day coach who as coach all the young successful coaches including klopp, tuchel, flick, negelsman etc, but the results is still the same................... So my question is what is wrong with man utd?
1) does the owner refuse to spent money?......... No, infact man utd have by far out-spent every clubs in the world through buying of super stars at inflated cost, paying massive inflated agent fees to Rieola and others and also paying massive inflated excessive wages to this super stars to keep them happy.
2) does man utd lack super stars or squad depth to win trophies?............ No, infact man n utd along with real Madrid boast some of the greatest super stars ever to grace the game such as dimaria, falcoa, Sanchez, abrahimovich, cavani, Ronaldo, Fernandez, de Gea, varane, Mata, magic, Sancho, van see beek, etc, these are top class players that will break into first team of ANY CLUB apart from man utd and Madrid and yet man unit can not win with these players!.
3) is it lack of world class coach?......... No, infact man utd boast of Moyes (the best English coach of his time), the famously renounce football philosopher VAAN GAAL, the indestructible special one in Mourinho, a club lagend who understands United way in Ole Solskear, the godfather and grand patron of modern day heavy metal football coaches infact according to media, you can called him the God of coaches,..... And yet the results still remain the same, WHY.?

The solutions lies with the club structure, after sir Alex left, man utd have not been able to build a new management and football structure that will once again build them up, instead the shadow of sir Alex and those of their former players still loom all over the club from decisions making to player purchase, to even the administrative duties.............. If man utd want to get up on their feet once again, they should do away with sir Alex influence over that club. No matter how much they have spent on players, if the coach doesn't have a final say on who comes in, then there is no way he can coach them. Man utd need to adapt their structure away from the current structure of UNITED WAY which favor sir Alex and their former players to a more progressive structure while will favor the coach, they need to have director of football who will brain storm with the coach to buy players that the coach wants.......... The need to have a long term strategy and define what type of coach and philosophy they want.......... Then what type of players do we want......the board need to draft the lists of players they want and then they scout/watch the players like 2 to 3 years before buying the players...,..... They need to do away with panic buy which was the case in dimaria, Sanchez, van der beek, Ronaldo etc does this players fit the club profile and playing philosophy? They also need to stop forcing players to stay or paying over the odd in terms of wages, agent fees or transfer fees for their services such as Sanchez, de Gea, ronaldo, Pogba etc, infact they need to have a wage structure.
Finally, man utd need to first of all realised that they are now a MID TABLE TEAM with cash, and therefore need to seek a new way and structure to rebuild the fallen club, the rebuild process might take between 5 to 8 years and the right coaches with the right capabilities should be appointed to handle different stages of this development.
Sir Alex and former players should help the club by staying away from exerting undue influence and pressure on the club and allow the club to move on.

This should be directed to man utd board.

How did Ragnick coach all the young successful coaches.
Klopp's mentor for one is Arrigo Sacchi, he only picked gengen pressing from the system Ragnick played at Hoffeheim.
Did he also coach Pep? Arguably the best around now....
Flick's mentors are Giovanni Trappatoni and Joachim Low. Baba don coach Hoffeheim finish before Ragnick took over.
Always get your facts right.
The only coach who worked directly under Ragnick is Tuchel.

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Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by lexy2014: 6:26pm On Dec 28, 2021
martineverest:
they are bouncing back financially.

So u mean, they are still in d process of bouncing back?
How are they bouncing back?
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by muheeb01(m): 6:31pm On Dec 28, 2021
Good and smart move....more playing time





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Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by georgeakins: 6:32pm On Dec 28, 2021
joelbooks:
grin grin grin grin
op fear God
Are you saying his buy out clause is 1 billion Euros


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjEDqBr1GLY


These clubs are not smart at all.

One day, all of them will be broke.
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by martineverest(m): 7:02pm On Dec 28, 2021
lexy2014:


So u mean, they are still in d process of bouncing back?
How are they bouncing back?

sponsors,increase shirt sales and fans are buying tickets compared to last season when the whole stadium was empty
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by ibrocool(m): 7:44pm On Dec 28, 2021
etokhana:

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/football/first-team/news/2426442/fc-barcelona-signs-ferran-torres?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=fcbarcelona&utm_campaign=9859fe9d-fc85-4bf2-9970-7bef47ecf16a
I must say, Barcelona are still into slavery deal. How can they put a huge relaese clause on a player they signed less than €50m
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by lexy2014: 8:33pm On Dec 28, 2021
martineverest:
sponsors,increase shirt sales and fans are buying tickets compared to last season when the whole stadium was empty

Which sponsor do they have now that they didn't have before?

Which increased shirt sales? Can u provide figures?

Is it because sale of tickets that that made them broke before?
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by martineverest(m): 8:43pm On Dec 28, 2021
lexy2014:


Which sponsor do they have now that they didn't have before?

Which increased shirt sales? Can u provide figures?

Is it because sale of tickets that that made them broke before?
last season was riddled with covid-19,games were played in empty stadium...shirt sales drop ridiculously.

Some months ago,they securer loan from american company
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by lexy2014: 8:44pm On Dec 28, 2021
martineverest:
last season was riddled with covid-19,games were played in empty stadium...shirt sales drop ridiculously.

Some months ago,they securer loan from american company

U haven't answered my questions:

Which sponsor do they have now that they didn't have before?

Which increased shirt sales? Can u provide figures?

Is it because sale of tickets that that made them broke before?

Is collecting loan the same thing as bouncing back?
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by martineverest(m): 8:44pm On Dec 28, 2021
ibrocool:
I must say, Barcelona are still into slavery deal. How can they put a huge relaese clause on a player they signed less than €50m
e no concern u......the player agreed on the release clause b4 signing
Re: Ferran Torres Moves To Barcelona From Manchester City by javaguru: 10:53pm On Dec 28, 2021
uunwanaobong3:
It is always funny when some people complain that man utd is not good enough for the title, when infact they have gathered a squad of super star all Over the world.

The problem with man utd started when sir Alex Ferguson left man utd,.... Instead of sir Alex to hand off and leave to allow utd board to form a new structure which will take the club forward and appoint a coach that fit into a new structure, HE imposed his successor (David Moyes) on man utd,..... Moyes was called the chosen one and the next big thing to happen to English football in terms of coaching,..... Moyes players signings and decisions were influence by former players and Ferguson, Moyes has little or no input on his playing squad, he was not given freedom or time to input his football philosophy or build his squad before he was fired......... Then came Van Gaal (popularly known as the Football philosopher) hugely successful coach, he opposes Alex Ferguson way or United way, he wanted to introduce his philosophy of tiki taka into man utd, as we all know two captains can not sail a ship....... The greater force (sir Ferguson) boot out the lesser force (van gaal), he wasn't given time and backing from the board.
Then come the special one Mourinho, money were splash on super stars, enjoy support from sir Alex, he quickly notice that the much talked about United way wasn't taking them to any way so he switched to short term fixed of ultra defensive and counter attacking football, it work out so well that they were unfortunate to find themselves second on the table in a season that mancity had 100 points, But this measure that Mourinho used was a short term measure which can not be sustain over a long time, so when he tried changing it for attractive football due to pressure from the fans and board, it backfire and Mourinho was sacked.
Then came the fans favourite who understands man United way, hugely supported by sir Alex,.... He went about recruiting big names and spent more money than any coach in the history of football but nothing to show for it, he was forced by former players, fans and sir Alex to buy c.ronaldo despite having no need for him, a mistake that end is coach career at man utd.
And now man utd had gone ahead to get Ragnick popularly known as the God of modern day coach who as coach all the young successful coaches including klopp, tuchel, flick, negelsman etc, but the results is still the same................... So my question is what is wrong with man utd?
1) does the owner refuse to spent money?......... No, infact man utd have by far out-spent every clubs in the world through buying of super stars at inflated cost, paying massive inflated agent fees to Rieola and others and also paying massive inflated excessive wages to this super stars to keep them happy.
2) does man utd lack super stars or squad depth to win trophies?............ No, infact man n utd along with real Madrid boast some of the greatest super stars ever to grace the game such as dimaria, falcoa, Sanchez, abrahimovich, cavani, Ronaldo, Fernandez, de Gea, varane, Mata, magic, Sancho, van see beek, etc, these are top class players that will break into first team of ANY CLUB apart from man utd and Madrid and yet man unit can not win with these players!.
3) is it lack of world class coach?......... No, infact man utd boast of Moyes (the best English coach of his time), the famously renounce football philosopher VAAN GAAL, the indestructible special one in Mourinho, a club lagend who understands United way in Ole Solskear, the godfather and grand patron of modern day heavy metal football coaches infact according to media, you can called him the God of coaches,..... And yet the results still remain the same, WHY.?

The solutions lies with the club structure, after sir Alex left, man utd have not been able to build a new management and football structure that will once again build them up, instead the shadow of sir Alex and those of their former players still loom all over the club from decisions making to player purchase, to even the administrative duties.............. If man utd want to get up on their feet once again, they should do away with sir Alex influence over that club. No matter how much they have spent on players, if the coach doesn't have a final say on who comes in, then there is no way he can coach them. Man utd need to adapt their structure away from the current structure of UNITED WAY which favor sir Alex and their former players to a more progressive structure while will favor the coach, they need to have director of football who will brain storm with the coach to buy players that the coach wants.......... The need to have a long term strategy and define what type of coach and philosophy they want.......... Then what type of players do we want......the board need to draft the lists of players they want and then they scout/watch the players like 2 to 3 years before buying the players...,..... They need to do away with panic buy which was the case in dimaria, Sanchez, van der beek, Ronaldo etc does this players fit the club profile and playing philosophy? They also need to stop forcing players to stay or paying over the odd in terms of wages, agent fees or transfer fees for their services such as Sanchez, de Gea, ronaldo, Pogba etc, infact they need to have a wage structure.
Finally, man utd need to first of all realised that they are now a MID TABLE TEAM with cash, and therefore need to seek a new way and structure to rebuild the fallen club, the rebuild process might take between 5 to 8 years and the right coaches with the right capabilities should be appointed to handle different stages of this development.
Sir Alex and former players should help the club by staying away from exerting undue influence and pressure on the club and allow the club to move on.

This should be directed to man utd board.
did you actually write all this

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