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Re: The Rapture : The Glorious Return Of Our Lord - Joseph Prince by Holy2Glory: 8:32pm On May 15, 2022
Blow the trumpet in Zion! Sound an alarm upon the holy mountains of God! (Joel 2:15)

Woe to them that are at ease in Zion! (Amos 3:1-2)

It is time to start calling upon the name of the Lord for the salvation of man. You can't afford to keep silence, or else woe!
Re: The Rapture : The Glorious Return Of Our Lord - Joseph Prince by omojeesu(m): 10:35pm On May 15, 2022
Rapture! Yes!!
After the great tribulation.

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Re: The Rapture : The Glorious Return Of Our Lord - Joseph Prince by MrPRevailer(m): 10:50pm On May 15, 2022
cool
LedRock:
Nonsense, rapture my foot! Christians are killed daily you are talking about shittt.

The One World Government/financial system is near. The goal of U.N, W.E.F, IMF is that by year 2030, it should have been actualized.

Just as Noah's ark saved the Prepared from the Great flood that destroyed the old world. The Rapture of Saints will save the faithful believers from the Antichrist's One World Order (7 years duration) and globally mandatory Beast system, which will corrupt and destroy humanity. Afterwhich, there will be a new Era/generation. THE MILLENIAL REIGN OF CHRIST ON EARTH.

Revelation 13:16-18 "He causes all upon Earth to take a mark without which none can be able to buy or sell".
Re: The Rapture : The Glorious Return Of Our Lord - Joseph Prince by OkCornel(m): 11:21pm On May 15, 2022
omojeesu:
Rapture! Yes!!
After the great tribulation.

Exactly
Re: The Rapture : The Glorious Return Of Our Lord - Joseph Prince by OkCornel(m): 11:24pm On May 15, 2022
MrPRevailer:
cool

The One World Government/financial system is near. The goal of U.N, W.E.F, IMF is that by year 2030, it should have been actualized.

Just as Noah's ark saved the Prepared from the Great flood that destroyed the old world. The Rapture of Saints will save the faithful believers from the Antichrist's One World Order (7 years duration) and globally mandatory Beast system, which will corrupt and destroy humanity. Afterwhich, there will be a new Era/generation. THE MILLENIAL REIGN OF CHRIST ON EARTH.

Revelation 13:16-18 "He causes all upon Earth to take a mark without which none can be able to buy or sell".

For the umpteenth time, the believers will be “raptured” at the last trump which is the same one blown at the second coming of Christ in Matthew 24 v 29-31. This trumpet will be blown “immediately after the tribulation of those days”

There is no trumpet after that one hence “the last trump”
Re: The Rapture : The Glorious Return Of Our Lord - Joseph Prince by MrPRevailer(m): 1:09pm On May 20, 2022
OkCornel:


For the umpteenth time, the believers will be “raptured” at the last trump which is the same one blown at the second coming of Christ in Matthew 24 v 29-31. This trumpet will be blown “immediately after the tribulation of those days”

There is no trumpet after that one hence “the last trump”

I think believers of the post-tribulation rapture are shallow readers of the bible.
Just like believers who claim their is no proof of Trinity in the Bible because 'Trinity' wasn't written.

In Matthew 24:** "Two shall be in a field, one taken the other left".
"Lest your hearts be overcharged with eating and drinking".

In the great tribulation, the Antichrist era, the unmarked will be hunted. They cannot operate openly as on a field.
It will be a time of great sorrow and deprival. There will not be eating and drinking and merrying as is obtainable now.

Luke 21:36 "Watch and pray that you might be accounted worthy to escape these things that will come to pass.
Revelation 3:10 "Because you have kept the word of my patience, I also will keep you from the hour of temptation, which shall come on all the world, to try them that dwell on the earth."

To escape. What are we escaping from?

Matthew 25 The Parable of the wise and foolish virgins.
The foolish virgins were locked out in the midnight (darkest hour). The wise ones entered into the wedding of the Lamb of God a.k.a Bridegroom.

Revelation 19:9 "Then the angel told me to write, “Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.”

This wedding of the Lamb which is in heaven happens before Jesus second-coming for his MILLENIAL REIGN on earth. Read chapter 19:5-14 for full clarity.

The wise virgins are the blessed ones. They are the faithful and true ones. And they will follow Jesus from heaven to make war with the Beast as they come to save Israel and remnants.
Compare Revelation 17:14 and Revelation 19:14". You can read verses above the context for better understanding.

The pre-tribulation rapture encourages faithfulness, watchfulness in believers because he comes in a time of surfeiting, a sudden event, like a thief.
The post-tribulation breeds compromise. Because you only begin to look for the Saviour when things are tough. Also, we know that immediately the 7 years of the Beast expires, the second coming occurs. This invalidates "like a thief in the night" or "No one knows the hour".
The great-tribulation believers will be yearning for their redemption. Like though the goodman knew and is expecting the thief to come that night. This does not fit in to Jesus warnings.

Pre-tribulation is therefore the truth.
Ask yourself which of the two doctrines makes you more careful, faithful, watchful, less-compromising about your lifestyle in these moments?
If you knew Rapture would happen anytime today, would you be more careful about what you do? More prayerful?
How different will you live your life if you knew Rapture will not take place until year 2030.
Revelation 17:14
Re: The Rapture : The Glorious Return Of Our Lord - Joseph Prince by OkCornel(m): 3:00pm On May 20, 2022
MrPRevailer:

I think believers of the post-tribulation rapture are shallow readers of the bible.
Just like believers who claim their is no proof of Trinity in the Bible because 'Trinity' wasn't written.

In Matthew 24:** "Two shall be in a field, one taken the other left".
"Lest your hearts be overcharged with eating and drinking".

Read the scriptures carefully. The ones left behind are the righteous ones. The ones taken away are those destroyed in God's judgment.

In Matthew 24 v 38 - 40;
38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;
39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until THE FLOOD CAME AND TOOK THEM ALL AWAY. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.

Now ask yourself after reading the bolded - the sinners were "taken", the righteous ones (Noah and his family) were left.

Again, this is Jesus talking about his second coming (the day of the Lord) which would be "immediately after the tribulation of those days" - Matthew 24 v 29-31. Not a fictitious pre-tribulation rapture.

MrPRevailer:

In the great tribulation, the Antichrist era, the unmarked will be hunted. They cannot operate openly as on a field.
It will be a time of great sorrow and deprival. There will not be eating and drinking and merrying as is obtainable now.
You've missed the context here. It's about the sinful world who are in darkness...they are the ones unprepared for the day of the Lord (the Second Coming of Christ)
Paul clarified this further in 1 Thessalonians 5 v 1-5;
1 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you,
2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.

MrPRevailer:

Luke 21:36 "Watch and pray that you might be accounted worthy to escape these things that will come to pass.
Revelation 3:10 "Because you have kept the word of my patience, I also will keep you from the hour of temptation, which shall come on all the world, to try them that dwell on the earth."

To escape. What are we escaping from?

You have read Luke 21 v 36 out of context. What you are escaping the destruction that will come with the coming of the Son of man. Not the great tribulation. Luke 21 v 25-26 gives that context.
25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea.
26 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.
27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near

Please if believers are going to be "raptured out" of the world before the coming of the Son of Man, why is Jesus telling them to lift their heads up? Are they lifting their heads up from heaven ni?

Again, you have quoted Revelation 3 v 10 out of context. That promise was for the Church in Philadelphia. Not the entire church of Christ!
The Smyrna church (Revelation 2 v 8-11) was also a faithful church like the Philadelphia church, why didn't Jesus promise to keep them from persecution hmmm?

MrPRevailer:

Matthew 25 The Parable of the wise and foolish virgins.
The foolish virgins were locked out in the midnight (darkest hour). The wise ones entered into the wedding of the Lamb of God a.k.a Bridegroom.

Revelation 19:9 "Then the angel told me to write, “Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.”

Buhahaha, please show me where in the scriptures that this wedding took place in heaven, and saints that were “raptured away” to avoid the great tribulation will be there. Please...
By the way, the bride of Christ is the Holy City of Jerusalem which comes down from Heaven

Revelation 21 v 9-11
9 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.”
10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.
11 It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal.


MrPRevailer:


This wedding of the Lamb which is in heaven happens before Jesus second-coming for his MILLENIAL REIGN on earth. Read chapter 19:5-14 for full clarity.

Please and please, show us evidence this marriage will happen in heaven with “raptured saints” in attendance

MrPRevailer:

The wise virgins are the blessed ones. They are the faithful and true ones. And they will follow Jesus from heaven to make war with the Beast as they come to save Israel and remnants.
Compare Revelation 17:14 and Revelation 19:14". You can read verses above the context for better understanding.
Kindly show us where in the scriptures Jesus will descend from heaven with the saints to make war with the beast. I'm itching to go through the Hebrew Bible and various Bible study tools for this piece of evidence.

MrPRevailer:


The pre-tribulation rapture encourages faithfulness, watchfulness in believers because he comes in a time of surfeiting, a sudden event, like a thief.
The post-tribulation breeds compromise. Because you only begin to look for the Saviour when things are tough. Moreover, we know that immediately the 7 years of the Beast expires, the second coming occurs. This invalidates "like a thief in the night" or "No one knows the hour".
The great-tribulation believers will be yearning for their redemption. Like though the goodman knew and expecting the thief to come that night. This does not fit in to Jesus warnings.

You've got it all mixed up. The Apostles Peter and Paul encourage believers to look forward to THE DAY OF THE LORD (The coming of the Son of man). That day will not come until the antichrist shows up.

2 Peter 3 v 10-14;
10 But THE DAY OF THE LORD will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.
11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives
12 AS YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY OF GOD AND THE SPEED OF ITS COMING. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.
14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him

2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4;
1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ AND OUR BEING GATHERED TO HIM, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for THAT DAY WILL NOT COME UNTIL the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Again, I mentioned earlier...Apostle Paul made it clear that the second coming of Jesus will be like a thief in the night for unbelievers...NOT BELIEVERS. Read 1 Thessalonians 5 v 1-5

MrPRevailer:

Pre-tribulation is therefore the truth.
Ask yourself which of the doctrines makes you more careful, faithful, watchful, less-compromising about your lifestyle in these moments?
If you knew Rapture would happen anytime today, would you more careful about what you do? More prayerful?

How different will you live your life if you knew Rapture will not take place until year 2030.
Revelation 17:14

The bolded is a very selfish reason to walk with God. It indicates you're serving God for what you can just benefit.

Anyways, post tribulation rapture prepares your mind to pay the ultimate sacrifice (your life) for the truth you believe in. Not an escapist mentality from the troubles to come. I wonder if the early church had this mindset, where did they find the resolve to be crucified, fed to lions or burnt alive on a stake or in bronze bull.

Prepare yourself for what is coming.

1 Corinthians 15 v 51-52 states believers dead and alive will be resurrected and transformed AT THE LAST TRUMP. Read Matthew 24 v 29-31 and show me which trumpet will be blown after that one.

If the "last trumpet" would be blown before the great tribulation, then the 7 trumpets in Revelation and the one in Matthew 24 v 29-31 are trumpets after the "last trumpet" abi?
Re: The Rapture : The Glorious Return Of Our Lord - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(m): 1:18pm On Oct 23, 2023
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