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Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by walemoney007(m): 2:34pm On Feb 22, 2022
Esseite:


What are you saying?... an increase from 600m to N3m is shortchanging the Government? Is it not the end user that pays the 600k that if approved, would be increased to N3m which will inturn escalate inflation on cars, machineries, products, transport and 98% of our household items because they are imported one way or the other either as raw material or finished product.
I doubt Buhari do know about this stupid policies
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by litaninja(m): 2:35pm On Feb 22, 2022
lol
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by walemoney007(m): 2:36pm On Feb 22, 2022
FreeStuffsNG:

God bless you sir!

On the fx side, the importers have been overinvoicing while the exporters have been underinvoicing.

By the time we fix that port system, you will be shocked to realize how much has been stolen from the system. These protesters are fronts for the same people that wrecked the system. The N600K old rate is the corruption rate!
But the money too much o
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by walemoney007(m): 2:44pm On Feb 22, 2022
okeysoninv:
funny it's not the importers that are crying but agents. Lol more like crying more than bereaved. Well It has been explain already.
The importers will pass the extra expenses to the buyer of the car
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by walemoney007(m): 2:50pm On Feb 22, 2022
connkg:
"No more bribes or settlement on the road?"

Really? The electronic medium will remove the gangs of people on the road? This is like the Police "assuring" Nigerians of security, if they have made one payment or the other for a new permit or license plate.
The e-valuation will not physically remove anyone from the roads leading to the ports. NCS should mount that patrol on access roads to validate this increment.
What will custom officers be asking bribe for again after you don pay all the necessary charges with documents to back then up?

If you pay any bribe, you mumu be that
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by NimrodEndOfDays(m): 3:15pm On Feb 22, 2022
ndubuisi1213:

I don't think you understand the implication... Agents are crying for you but you but you are not seeing it. If such hike of import duty take place, prices of cars will go up, car parts will go up, goods will go up. Every body will be affected bro. So is not about agents crying for importers, is for them to do what is write
You are explaining yourself to a bmc? goodluck grin

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Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by aycapri(m): 3:34pm On Feb 22, 2022
okeysoninv:
let me explain it you from an agent,"

If a car was supposed to pay 3million duty... U bribe customs with 700,000 and u pay 1.5miliion duty.

Even at that, patrol customs(FOU) extort money from u from 50,000 upwards on the road for the next few months or years.

But with the e-invoice, u get the 3million invoice and pay the correct duty.. No more bribes and settlement at the ports or on the road..

To me as a clearing agent, I will be loosing over 80% of what I normally see as profit cos of these bribes..

But as a Nigerian, for the greater good, its the best thing that can happen to customs issues cos the fraud too much.

NB.. This my explanation applies to car imports alone which is my area of specialisation.."
Cc: Modecai
if the 3million is actually the duty attracted to a 2011 car then anybody supporting needs to be checked. How are you expecting me to pay 3 million for a car tha was made 11 years ago. How much was it bought in the State? Aswear, This country is a joke

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Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by baydex001: 4:38pm On Feb 22, 2022
okeysoninv:
they are crying the loop holes has been covered
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by baydex001: 4:42pm On Feb 22, 2022
[quote author=baydex001 post=110450652][/quote]you don’t have any idea of the industry but quick to judge ppl protesting to protect their lives
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by luizpippo(m): 5:20pm On Feb 22, 2022
okeysoninv:
they are crying the loop holes has been covered

You mean the correct levy was 3million and the importers have been cheating by paying #600k percent?
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by zigzagluv: 6:11pm On Feb 22, 2022
how much to clear lexus es350 ,2013 or 2014 model, won auction of $5000
okeysoninv:
let me explain it you from an agent,"

If a car was supposed to pay 3million duty... U bribe customs with 700,000 and u pay 1.5miliion duty.

Even at that, patrol customs(FOU) extort money from u from 50,000 upwards on the road for the next few months or years.

But with the e-invoice, u get the 3million invoice and pay the correct duty.. No more bribes and settlement at the ports or on the road..

To me as a clearing agent, I will be loosing over 80% of what I normally see as profit cos of these bribes..

But as a Nigerian, for the greater good, its the best thing that can happen to customs issues cos the fraud too much.

NB.. This my explanation applies to car imports alone which is my area of specialisation.."
Cc: Modecai
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by Buchika: 6:27am On Feb 23, 2022
Dangote is bringing his locally assembled car to market; and tokumbo cars are his biggest competition. Government is making it easier for him.

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Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by kuntash: 11:36am On Feb 28, 2022
Buchika:
Dangote is bringing his locally assembled car to market; and tokumbo cars are his biggest competition. Government is making it easier for him.


this is deep !


didnt reason it along that line .

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Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by kuntash: 11:50am On Feb 28, 2022
okeysoninv:
let me explain it you from an agent,"

If a car was supposed to pay 3million duty... U bribe customs with 700,000 and u pay 1.5miliion duty.

Even at that, patrol customs(FOU) extort money from u from 50,000 upwards on the road for the next few months or years.

But with the e-invoice, u get the 3million invoice and pay the correct duty.. No more bribes and settlement at the ports or on the road..

To me as a clearing agent, I will be loosing over 80% of what I normally see as profit cos of these bribes..

But as a Nigerian, for the greater good, its the best thing that can happen to customs issues cos the fraud too much.

NB.. This my explanation applies to car imports alone which is my area of specialisation.."
Cc: Modecai


There are some things that doesn't require too much explanation but rather simple logic even if you are not on the biz ...


Now I am sure you know it's possible to check the cost of purchase of vehicles overseas ... Used vehicles in particular .. GOOGLE IS YOUR PAL ..

A used Lexus ES 350 with salvage title for example sells for between 4.5k & 6k tax and charges inclusive ..
You would ship down to Lagos at an average of 1.5k

Which should sum it to like say 7k USD on the average ..

Note , the CBN or custom has not provided FX for importers for these purchase ... Black market for USD now is 580 , meaning the importer has spent like over 4m Naira to get his vehicle to Lagos ports

...ARE YOU NOW SUPPOSING 3M NAIRA SHOULD BE PAID FOR CLEARING ?

So what % of 4M naira is 1M Naira or 1.5M , or 0.75M ? Assuming that's the new rate if duty

Then compare with other parts of the world for salvage vehicles ...



Where are the mathematicians ? Pls help us out here ..


Like I said , information is within our reach online .. the ONLY thing not online is the Nigeria customs rates for duty ...this has been like a clandestine tactics to sheild so many things ..


The CBN or customs can make enough funds if they truly want to by only opening the modalities of payment , rates etc ...and it should show on their websites the vehicles cleared visavis the ships that berthed ....


That's a starting point for me ..

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Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by connkg(m): 12:00pm On Feb 28, 2022
walemoney007:
What will custom officers be asking bribe for again after you don pay all the necessary charges with documents to back then up?

If you pay any bribe, you mumu be that

NCS aren't the gangs on the road. Touts all over Apapa exits are. They damage cars and pull-off side mirrors because they are not stopped. The official people (NCS) should clear the roads.
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by kuntash: 12:50pm On Feb 28, 2022
connkg:


NCS aren't the gangs on the road. Touts all over Apapa exits are. They damage cars and pull-off side mirrors because they are not stopped. The official people (NCS) should clear the roads.

That's not customs but the state govt that seem to encourage , accommodate , fuel and use touting and Fed Govt that has refused to revamp other sea ports across the country ..

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Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by FreeStuffsNG: 1:02pm On Feb 28, 2022
connkg:
"No more bribes or settlement on the road?"

Really? The electronic medium will remove the gangs of people on the road? This is like the Police "assuring" Nigerians of security, if they have made one payment or the other for a new permit or license plate.
The e-valuation will not physically remove anyone from the roads leading to the ports. NCS should mount that patrol on access roads to validate this increment.
It is actually CBN that has stopped giving rebate on forex the importers use to bring in and clear cars.

I just learnt that there is actually subsidies on the payment for clearing cars so that cars are made affordable but the process has been massively abused and CBN is equally rationing its forex so it removed the rebate fueling the inefficiency.

Cars may become expensive to clear but it is not because price for clearing changed, it is because CBN can no longer be giving usd at 272 naira.
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by kuntash: 5:23pm On Feb 28, 2022
FreeStuffsNG:

It is actually CBN that has stopped giving rebate on forex the importers use to bring in and clear cars.

I just learnt that there is actually subsidies on the payment for clearing cars so that cars are made affordable but the process has been massively abused and CBN is equally rationing its forex so it removed the rebate fueling the inefficiency.

Cars may become expensive to clear but it is not because price for clearing changed, it is because CBN can no longer be giving usd at 272 naira.

CBN giving USD @272 in what year pls , I suppose that's a typo ...
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by FreeStuffsNG: 5:42pm On Feb 28, 2022
kuntash:


CBN giving USD @272 in what year pls , I suppose that's a typo ...

Exactly o! So I thought I did not hear the amount well too.
They told me that it is called compromised valuation. I believe those in the sector should be able to enlighten us more. The grouse is that customs is demanding N504 per usd and nothing is left for them and it makes imported cars too costly. I was slightly embarrassed and wanted to ask for how long this unfair system has been going on. That some folks get usd for 272 for this ridiculous reason of making cars affordable shocked

Well, it is now in the hands of cbn that actually fund the forex needs of the importers. customs abused processes a lot in this importation and exportation business.
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by kuntash: 7:45pm On Feb 28, 2022
FreeStuffsNG:


Exactly o! So I thought I did not hear the amount well too.
They told me that it is called compromised valuation. I believe those in the sector should be able to enlighten us more. The grouse is that customs is demanding N504 per usd and nothing is left for them and it makes imported cars too costly. I was slightly embarrassed and wanted to ask for how long this unfair system has been going on. That some folks get usd for 272 for this ridiculous reason of making cars affordable shocked

Well, it is now in the hands of cbn that actually fund the forex needs of the importers. customs abused processes a lot in this importation and exportation business.

I think what they collect is 35% of the cost or value of the vehicle which I think they call surface charge
The calculation is based on the official CBN dollar to naira rate ...

It doesn't make sense to alter that rate especially when the importer did not get the FX from CBN but had to source from the parallel market ..

There are port and terminal charges paid , all on one vehicle ... Just imagining the multiplier effect .

You see the main thing here is flagrant application of schemes of corruption in a different guise ..


What is difficult in the Nigeria customs to publish tye automobile duty rates on their websites ? As in making it clear and open to avoid these plenty noise ? That's where anticorruption ought to begin if you asked me
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by FreeStuffsNG: 8:15pm On Feb 28, 2022
kuntash:


I think what they collect is 35% of the cost or value of the vehicle which I think they call surface charge
The calculation is based on the official CBN dollar to naira rate ...

It doesn't make sense to alter that rate especially when the importer did not get the FX from CBN but had to source from the parallel market ..

There are port and terminal charges paid , all on one vehicle ... Just imagining the multiplier effect .

You see the main thing here is flagrant application of schemes of corruption in a different guise ..


What is difficult in the Nigeria customs to publish tye automobile duty rates on their websites ? As in making it clear and open to avoid these plenty noise ? That's where anticorruption ought to begin if you asked me

@ the bolded is now determined by the cbn e-evaluator that compare the price you quoted and the price of the good in the foreign nation within 2.5% bracket.
Re: Clearing Agents Ground Port Operations, Begin Indefinite Strike by Parachoko: 9:15pm On Feb 28, 2022
kuntash:





What is difficult in the Nigeria customs to publish tye automobile duty rates on their websites ? As in making it clear and open to avoid these plenty noise ? That's where anticorruption ought to begin if you asked me
I wish there is someone who can give me an answer to this.

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