Zikkyy:

I think you are introducing unnecessary complexities to a simple issue. Before you go about understanding spiritual laws, why not first understand the motive for (or purpose of) the event. The question i would ask is; was Elijah sent to help the woman or to find sustenance for himself? If purpose was for Elijah to be taken care off,

I get your point . I agree in your context. But let's look at it from the op perspective. It's a higher truth. It's like God asking us to bring a ram for offering. And he says he love the aroma and for that reason blesses us for it. But look at it in reality. God only make us do it for our sake.

Psalms 50:12-14
12 If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.
13 Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats
14 Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High:


He only give us opportunity to position ourselves for receiving. Jesus threw more light on it here.

Luke 4:25-27
25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; 26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow. 27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.


Simple illustration of Jesus in summary : Elisha helped Naaman ,Elijah helped the widow. Finish .

Joagbaje:

He only give us opportunity to position ourselves for receiving.  Jesus threw more light on it here.

Luke 4:25-27
25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; 26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow. 27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.


Simple illustration of Jesus in summary :  Elisha helped Naaman ,Elijah helped the widow. Finish .

Gbam!
l couldn't agree any less.

KunleOshob:

Nobody is helping anybody in the above passage as they were both obeying God's commands. It was God that commanded the widow directly to give out of her little to Elijah.

How do you mean or do you mean to tell me that this expresión ". . .I have commanded a widow woman there TO SUSTAIN thee" doesnt communicate "help"? off course God gets the glory for being the undisputed "Mastermind" behind it but it didnt all happen in vacuum; God used a "human medium" (on both sides)

Also another thing that l tend to frawn at in your comments is the use seem to want to put all the responsibility on God, yes God did the "commanding" (becos the context shows us so ". . .I have commanded a widow woman there TO SUSTAIN thee" but theres no record or the slightest suggession to indicate that the woman in question "a direct" command from God like you tried to insinuate. My question to you now is: How did the widow get her "command" and from who?

@newmumu
I don't know whether they fry you people's brains in cec when you go an fry your hair. Why can't God command the woman directly Is it becos you have been brain washed to believe God only communicates with people through MOGs? God could have commanded the woman through he dream. There is no indication in the bible that God did not communicate with her directly so stop trying to force your daft opinion into scriptures.

Pastor Kun:

@newmumu
I don't know whether they fry you people's brains in cec when you go an fry your hair. Why can't God command the woman directly Is it becos you have been brain washed to believe God only communicates with people through MOGs? God could have commanded the woman through he dream. There is no indication in the bible that God did not communicate with her directly so stop trying to force your daft opinion into scriptures.

haha funny huon! you can call me whatever you may wish but perhaps this will interest you; l have gone past being offended and be that as it may though just for the records, l would be nuts and stupid to say or even suggest in the slightest or reason that God can't or couldn't have directly command the woman, you may wish to review my comments again. Now what l said was that the context doesnt seem to suggest that she had had a direct command experience From God in the same manner that we observe Elijah the prophet did. GOD IS THE MASTER COMMUNICATOR I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND NOW. Please stop coming into threads with a fault seeking mind only to simply induce offence why not simply be a christian. Thank u no ill feelingsu can call me whatever you may wish but perhaps this will interest you; l have gone past being offended and be that as it may though just for the records, l would be nuts and stupid to say or even suggest in the slightest or reason that God can't or couldn't have directly command the woman, you may wish to review my comments again. Now what l said was that the context doesnt seem to suggest that she had had a direct command experience From God in the same manner that we observe Elijah the prophet did. GOD IS THE MASTER COMMUNICATOR I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND NOW. Please stop coming into threads with a fault seeking mind only to simply induce offence why not simply be a christian. Thank u no ill feelings

Joagbaje:

He only give us opportunity to position ourselves for receiving.  Jesus threw more light on it here.

Luke 4:25-27
25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; 26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow. 27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.


Simple illustration of Jesus in summary :  Elisha helped Naaman ,Elijah helped the widow. Finish .

Jesus was not talking about 'who was helping who' here This is not relevant. maybe i should ask you; what did Naaman 'give' to provoke the anointing God sending the prophets to foreigners when there were many widows and lepers in Israel indicates a motive/purpose that goes beyond 'who helped who'. You come here talking about greater truth and the best we ever got from you was irrelevant truth that is when you are not preaching 'false truths'

Can't resist this! 

newmi:

Joagbaje link=topic=707140.msg8822179#msg8822179 date=1312049199:

He only give us opportunity to position ourselves for receiving.  Jesus threw more light on it here.

Luke 4:25-27
25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; 26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow. 27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.


Simple illustration of Jesus in summary :  Elisha helped Naaman ,Elijah helped the widow. Finish .

Gbam!
l couldn't agree any less.

Do you realise that means you disagree completely and agree with nothing in the statement you quoted?

@ Enigma
can't resist it either lol.  . . .

^^ You mean you still don't realise that what you said is that you disagreed with Joagbaje totally? Well, all good then.

7And it came to pass after a while, that the brook dried up, because there had been no rain in the land. 8And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, 9Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.

God commanded the woman to help elijah and he made this known to him. if that came from God why are we still debating over this matter?