From the book of Thomas. The lost gospel.

Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"



I’ll break it down

1. This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away.

2. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive.

3. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do?

4. On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"


Can someone help? Thank you!

Carcholce:

1. This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away.
2. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive.
3. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do?
4. On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

Can someone help? Thank you!

When it comes to human understanding, context is King and since much of that is missing from what is the gospel of Thomas, a book which only seems to contain lots of what are fragments, it is hard to claim clear understanding of anything that is contained in it.

Kobojunkie:
When it comes to human understanding, context is King and since much of that is missing from what is the gospel of Thomas, a book which only seems to contain lots of what are fragments, it is hard to claim clear understanding of anything that is contained in it.

I understand what you mean. The teachings are actually random sayings by Jesus. In the beginning of the chapter Jesus said “whoever finds the interpretations of these sayings will not experience death. I have tried to some extent to decode the meanings but I need more intelligent input.

Carcholce:
I understand what you mean. The teachings are actually random sayings by Jesus. In the beginning of the chapter Jesus said “whoever finds the interpretations of these sayings will not experience death. I have tried to some extent to decode the meanings but I need more intelligent input.

Decode what exactly?

The Words of Jesus Christ or the random fragments that suggest an idea which has already been contextually dealt with else where in other Gospels?

Kobojunkie:
Decode what exactly?

The Words of Jesus Christ or the random fragments that suggest an idea which has already been contextually dealt with else where in other Gospels?

I don’t know if they have been dealt with in other gospels. Can you help me out with the books and chapters they were dealt with?

Carcholce:
I don’t know if they have been dealt with in other gospels. Can you help me out with the books and chapters they were dealt with?

The best way to read and understand each of the gospels is to read through each as you would a book or novel abeg.

Jesus Christ's teachings on one not experiencing death aka have eternal life is written of throughout the Gospel. I would probably recommend you begin with the Gospel of John which is a book of only about 21 chapters.

Kobojunkie:
The best way to read and understand each of the gospels is to read through each as you would a book or novel abeg.

Jesus Christ's teachings on one not experiencing death aka have eternal life is written of throughout the Gospel. I would probably recommend you begin with the Gospel of John which is a book of only about 21 chapters.

Alright. Thank you. But you should help also.

I need to have a clear understanding thats why I brought it here.

Carcholce:
Alright. Thank you. But you should help also.

I need to have a clear understanding thats why I brought it here.

From Genesis, Death is defined as perishing in one's grave- from dust you were made and to dust you will return when you die meaning you cease to exist. Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22. However, Jesus Christ offers those who believe in Him eternal life which instead has one sleeping in the grave when one's tenure on this earth is over.

The Gospel of John delves more into a lot of what one must do in order to ensure one obtains this redemption from Death that is offered by Jesus Christ, hence my suggestion.

Which part is it in the Bible. I m about to reach out to Bible scholars

Sweetplum:
Which part is it in the Bible. I m about to reach out to Bible scholars

I have no idea where in the Bible. I got it from online and it said “The lost gospel of Thomas”

It’s in PDF format. There’s a lot sayings/parables in it by Jesus but it is said they were removed or not included in the Bible.

Carcholce:


I have no idea where in the Bible. I got it from online and it said “The lost gospel of Thomas”

It’s in PDF format. There’s a lot sayings/parables in it by Jesus but it is said they were removed or not included in the Bible.

The lost gospel of Thomas is not the bible.

Kobojunkie:
From Genesis, Death is defined as perishing in one's grave- from dust you were made and to dust you will return when you die meaning you cease to exist. Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22. However, Jesus Christ offers those who believe in Him eternal life which instead has one sleeping in the grave when one's tenure on this earth is over.

The Gospel of John delves more into a lot of what one must do in order to ensure one obtains this redemption from Death that is offered by Jesus Christ, hence my suggestion.

Thank you!! Eshey gon gon!

Steep:
The lost gospel of Thomas is not part of the bible.

Yes I know that. I didn’t say they were from the Bible. I just needed help to understand their meanings.

Carcholce:


Yes I know that. I didn’t say they were from the Bible. I just needed help to understand their meanings.

That book has nothing to do with Jesus.
I will advise only seek spiritual knowledge from the bible.

Gospel of thomas, one of the book that didn’t make it to Christian bible because of Canon.

Steep:
That book has nothing to do with Jesus.

It does, it was written even much older than mark.

Maynnmann:

It does, it was written even much older than mark.

much older than mark does not make it genuine. Such books were written to counterfeit Christianity.

Maynnmann:
Gospel of thomas, one of the book that didn’t make it to Christian bible because of Canon.

Do you even know the meaning of canonization? It is a process of separating fake from genuine.

Steep:
Do you even know the meaning of canonization? It is a process of separating fake from genuine.

Separating what? Lol Chrestian
The books you have in your bible pass through canon. They are CANONICAL BOOKS!

Send me a link where you got your definition, olodo

Steep:
much older than mark does not make it genuine. Such books were written to counterfeit Christianity.

Those are the genuine books not the one you have that’s set up by the nicene creed.

You think mark, paul and john wrote those books in the Christian bible lol??

Steep:
That book has nothing to do with Jesus.
I will advise only seek spiritual knowledge from the Bible .

As a Christian?

I have to admit, over the years I have been seeking knowledge everywhere. Even Quran and traditional too. They all have elements of God’s knowledge in them.

Carcholce:


As a Christian?

I have to admit, over the years I have been seeking knowledge everywhere. Even Quran and traditional too. They all have elements of God’s knowledge in them.

God is a title not a person.
Yahweh is not same with allah.
Same way yahweh is not same with eledumare.
Yahweh is just the Israelite god.

Which one is the book of Thomas again. which lost book. The only book tenable for discussion between christians are the books of the bible. If you read any other book tagged lost book you are on your own.

Many of you even call Seventh book of Moses a holy book. A pure occultic book from the pit of hell.

Maynnmann:

Those are the genuine books not the one you have that’s set up by the nicene creed.

You think mark, paul and john wrote those books in the Christian bible lol??

Exactly why I find the book fascinating. The fact it isn’t included in the Bible doesn’t make it fake. Aside that, no one can completely tell the originality of the author’s in the Bible. The books were edited and compiled by someone, not Jesus himself.

Maynnmann:


God is a title not a person.
Yahweh is not same with allah.
Same way yahweh is not same with eledumare.
Yahweh is just the Israelite god.

Yes I know this. What I mean by Gods knowledge is the Words of divinity and spirituality.

Carcholce:



Exactly why I find the book fascinating. The fact it isn’t included in the Bible doesn’t make it fake. Aside that, no one can completely tell the originality of the author’s in the Bible. The books were edited and compiled by someone, not Jesus himself.

The Gnostic texts of the Nazarenes were ignored.

Carcholce:


As a Christian?

I have to admit, over the years I have been seeking knowledge everywhere. Even Quran and traditional too. They all have elements of God’s knowledge in them.

Don't receive yourself. You are not yet a Christian. A Christian doesn't go about seeking knowledge else where. Demons are deceiving you.

Carcholce:


Yes I know this. What I mean by Gods knowledge is the Words of divinity and spirituality.

What does “god” have to do with divinity and spirituality?
You know the origin of the word “god/God” lol

GoodIsGod:


Don't receive yourself. You are not yet a Christian. A Christian doesn't go about seeking knowledge else where. Demons are deceiving you.

I don’t think so. A Christian also should have the will to accept and reject certain teachings. You can’t tell me all Christian churches in Nigeria have the same and complete understanding of the Bible.

Maynnmann:


What does “god” have to do with divinity and spirituality?
You know the origin of the word “god/God” lol

You are getting me wrong. Divine knowledge/Spiritual understanding of the Bible etc. I call it God’s knowledge. It is not of the physical.

Maybe I need to polish my use of English.
Sometimes people hardly get what I mean.

Carcholce:


You are getting me wrong. Divine knowledge/Spiritual understanding of the Bible etc. I call it God’s knowledge. It is not of the physical.

Maybe I need to polish my use of English.
Sometimes people hardly get what I mean.

Ooh the god in the bible is yawheh. A cannanite god.

Maybe you need to polish your understanding first of the israelite god.

Bible simply means BOOK, Polish your understanding on that too, Chrestian

Carcholce:


I have no idea where in the Bible. I got it from online and it said “The lost gospel of Thomas”

It’s in PDF format. There’s a lot sayings/parables in it by Jesus but it is said they were removed or not included in the Bible.

I m coming back to share more insight.


The meaning of the first one is explained below:

All of reality as you believe it to be is illusion and will pass. Even the illuison of birth and death will be realized as such. You pass through periods of incarnation. Then you return to the spirit world of light.