Tamaratonye1:

It's equally funny and sad how dishonest you Christians can get. You intentionally deceive yourselves. Why would god reward you for just playing it safe and worshipping him just in case? And how do you know you are playing it safe with the right god? There are a countless number of deities besides the Christian deity.

In any case, I doubt any god/s, if it/they actually exist, will be fooled by your fake belief.

LordTheus:

Which God? Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Anubis...?

MaxInDHouse:

Lie!
There are many gods that's why their likes and dislikes contradicts leading their worshipers into having confusing opinions on standards!

LordTheus:

Of course, the argument that guy was making aka Pascal's wager would make a little more sense if he believed that all deities are the same deity. But the person you quoted is probably a believer of the Christian deity and he rejects others like Anubis and Vishnu.

Lawag3:


The God that said he was the way the truth and light

Judas1X:

LMAO, C'mon DMumuSpeaker. This is 2022. Who still legitimately thinks that the argument from design is a tenable argument for gods, huh? [b]Get with the times, fool[/b]

Judas1X:
Your meaningless assertion here doesn't explain anything
You said everything is created, therefore, the Earth was created also abi? Oya please show us how the Earth was created. Yes nah, what are the processes, the nitty gritty science involved, hmm?

Judas1X:

When you finish answering that, can you then tell us who designed the designer, hmm?

Judas1X:

If you already know this genius, then why bring up the nonsensical claim that without gods and religion, there will be anarchy and mayhem, hmm?

sonmvayina:


My point is that, people are noticing .

Don't you think it's high time you have a rethink..

Lawag3:

I'm not a bible student but I know that there's a verse in the bible which talks about people who did not see the Lord but believe by faith and it talks about reward for those people.

yes but none of then ever said this three words in one sentence I am the way the truth and the light some religions have said one or two of this words but never the three many even said that they are not the way. Look it up and tell me what you find.

sonmvayina:

Lol...funny
You still have a lot to learn..

Dtruthspeaker:


see how you had nothing reasonable to say in anawer that you had to resort to the fallacy of Argumentum ad populum (because the population of the views of stupid people have increased, so they are right).

If you followed my argument like any normal thinking creature, you'll see I didn't base it on any actual ad populum argument. But I'm not surprised. Judging by your world outlook and grammar, you're just benefiting from the proliferation of the internet and data price cut. You should be selling goat meat in your village market and using the other hand to keep buzzing flies away

My refutation was based solely on the inherent illogic of your post. The teleological argument (the argument from the design that you keep regurgitating, in the same manner your benighted mother keeps breeding illiterate moróns) is easily the most discredited argument for god(s) and rightly so because the flaws and fallacies in it are innumerable at least compared to other arguments for a creator. It is the easiest to debunk, and that's why it didn't surprise me that you'll find it impressive, because I know you're an unapologetic simpleton

......Sorry. I take that back. Calling you a simpleton is an understatement and underwhelming description of your maladaptive evolutionary growth

Even the phone, television and car in your hand, (without the bible called Google) you did not know the science and nitty gritty involved in making them and you are a witness and present during their creation.

What are blubbering about here nah . Nawa o. Indeed you are a maginified ignoramus. Listen fool, we already know phones and cars and TVs are created because we have seen how they're created, repeatedly. We can even observe a phone being created. We know how they function and we are aware of all the variables behind it's functionality. We are not even sure if the Earth was created. You keep assuming CREATION without actually proving it. Where were you when God was creating the universe, hmm? Have you ever created a planet, talk less of a universe? You only believe these ridiculous stories because you read it in your Holy Tales By Moonlight. You are a gullible sucker, and you got played by ancient goat herders. The closest you got near a formal education was your daddy's pigsty

AND YET, YOU AND ALL OF US KNOW THAT THEY WERE CREATED BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A THING TO CREATE ITSELF

E don dey vex. Bwahahahahaha

Your decayed flesh you call a brain would have told you that this is and all the other shits you shit is a deviation from post and that you and your kind have reached the limits of your processing facility while sinking in he swamp of stupidity, if it was working at all.

How is it a deviation nah? You claimed there is a creator, no be so? So I'm now asking you how the "creator" came to be. And how do you know the universe was created? You people don't even realize how silly you sound. You are crying about deviation whereas you are the one dodging my questions left right centre .

DMumuSpeaker you're neck-deep in frustration and buried in mud, there's nowhere down further for you to go. Nairaland is therapy for you. I'm your overdose!

Kwaaaaaaaakwaaaaaakwaaaa!

Stupido, the question is what would happen if God abandons or is not in control of this world AND YOU STUPIDLY CAME WITH YOUR PEEP-HOLE VISION TO STUPIDLY SAY IT WAS RELIGIOUS JIHAD.

Bwahahahahaha hahahahaha You have been conquered again! Try harder next time

Oponu. Blazing retárd. Howler monkey.

Dtruthspeaker:


My point is that it is your committee mad and stupid devils who attack me.

chryssanthe:

How do you know what your good claims to be?
You don't, correct? Some other people told you. Some people wrote books.
"Christianity" tells you.
But actually you don't KNOW shit. You don't know what your god says or wants. You don't even know he exist
What your do is to BELIEVE what others tell you, without much scrutiny.
You are gullible

Tamaratonye1:
At your discretion -

You awaken tomorrow to find headlines around the world: Science has definitively proven that no god exists - anywhere in the universe. All the religious leaders concur.

How would your life be different?

Would you lose your job? Would your friends abandon you, or would you abandon friends? In what ways would how you spend your time change? Would your expectations for your future change - for the next day, next week, next month, next year, next decade? Would you suddenly lose talents?

Etc.

Brushing the question aside by claiming such a proof is impossible only ducks the question. Millions of atheists around the world enjoy fulfilling lives without needing a god in it, while many millions cannot envision a life without a god in it. What is it that a god adds that cannot be lived without?

sonmvayina:


But none of your post makes sense...

Don't you think them through before posting?

At least try and make sense of it,before trying to post it..

Dtruthspeaker:


It is written "wisdom is too high for a fool".

Wisdoml has always been very difficult for stupid to understand and stupid people are stupid that they even think wisdom is foolish. Example stupid people will always think that the way to wealth is to keep, whereas, Wisdom Says "Give"! Which of course stupid people say it is foolish!

So you see, the Wise understandeth the fool but the fool never understands the Wise!

More gibberish from a religious lunatic. Where's the strikethrough feature when you need one? Abeg come carry this post to it's right designation. Dejected lunatic

efficiencie:

If there is no God then what is the basis of morality? How do you define something good or evil? What makes stealing wrong in every culture? Can you answer that objectively without recourse to God or anything supernatural? If there is no God then what is the origin of order and regularity? If there is no God then all life must be random. Order cannot just bring itself into existence. Order requires intelligence. Just as you can never attribute a book to random events. So what is the origin of order? What is the origin of order in the cosmos and in physical reality? If there is no God where did all of existence come from? Where did matter, space and time originate from? If you say they came from nothing then please define "nothing"?

The last question could easily take you forever to answer in a logically coherent manner. Only a fool assumes there is no God. The real question is "who is God and how can He or She or It be reached?"

Judas1X:

More gibberish from a religious lunatic. Where's the strikethrough feature when you need one? Abeg come carry this post to it's right designation. Dejected lunatic

Dtruthspeaker:


See Pain!

chryssanthe:

How do you know what your good claims to be?
You don't, correct? Some other people told you. Some people wrote books.
"Christianity" tells you.
But actually you don't KNOW shit. You don't know what your god says or wants. You don't even know he exist
What your do is to BELIEVE what others tell you, without much scrutiny.
You are gullible

Dtruthspeaker:

How do you know water is hot?

Simple! You touch it.

How do you know that your Chemistry textbook is correct?

Ans: You carry out its instructions!

How do you know that the Bible is Right and True?

Simple thing, like your Chemistry textbook, YOU TEST IT OUT!

DMumuSpeaker, stop making false and bogus equivocations. Water is not synonymous with an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient deity that cannot be proven to exist in reality. We know water exists. Where is your proof for god? Hmm? Another question you pitifully don't have an answer for. You can't even support your own weight by yourself. Weak-kneed idiot

Dtruthspeaker:


They do not real-eyes that if this House called the world belongs to God, then they have become unlawful occupants of it and are subject to be cast out and ejected. since no be dem get dis House!

Thief-Thief! Dem wan claim House wey no be dia own!

Emphasis on IF. Unfortunately for you and your fellow god freaks, your god cannot be found to exist anywhere,so your fevered imaginations have no basis in our present reality

Judas1X:

If you followed my argument like any normal thinking creature, you'll see I didn't base it on any actual ad populum argument.

You obviously just crawled out from your shit tank! Everyone here knows the atheist signage song.

Judas1X:

Religious conflict
Religious intolerance
Religious oppression

[b]These are the things preventing world peace

Judas1X:

Emphasis on IF. Unfortunately for you and your fellow god freaks, your god cannot be found to exist anywhere,so your fevered imaginations have no basis in our present reality

Judas1X:


DMumuSpeaker, stop making false and bogus equivocations. [b]Water is not synonymous with an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient deity that cannot be proven to exist in reality. We know water exists. Where is your proof for god? Hmm? Another question you pitifully don't have an answer for. You can't even support your own weight by yourself. Weak-kneed idiot [/b]

Dtruthspeaker:


You obviously just crawled out from your shit tank! Everyone here knows the atheist signage song.



But as usual with you stinkton, you are so full of shit, from your shithole tank house that the only thing you see, smell and know is Shiiiit!

SMDHLMFAO! Look at your replies and look at the posts you're quoting. You have not addressed anything. I brought you down to hurling shit insults all over the thread . Bwahahahahahaaa. I don touch am today well well . I got you foaming in the mouth and blabbing incoherencies. You have become confusion personified

DMumuSpeaker is crushed again. Kwaaaaaaakwaaaaakwaaaaa

Dtruthspeaker:


my cars, laptops and JBL are in one of my houses, so of course when I am not near them they can never find me! . Simple common sense!

You are none of the above. Just a frustrated clown arguing nonsensities on an online forum

Dtruthspeaker:


I gave 2 examples of how we can ascertain something which we do not know and you dodged them only to complain that 'water is not synonymous with a deity? (even when I did not say such a thing! .

You really have nothing valid to say!

Says the defected ape who doesn't realize he's using false equivalence fallacies to make his points. Your analogies are flawed because they don't truly represent the subject of your position. I don't expect you to understand though. We are all well acquainted with your acute cognitive limitations

Judas1X:

SMDHLMFAO! Look at your replies and look at the posts you're quoting. You have not addressed anything. I brought you down to hurling shit insults all over the thread . [/b]

Judas1X:

Says the defected ape who doesn't realize he's using false equivalence fallacies to make his points. Your analogies are flawed because they don't truly represent the subject of your position. I don't expect you to understand though. We are all well acquainted with your acute cognitive limitations

Endtimer:
[b] You ask an impossible question and plead that we ignore its impossibility for the sake of argument. I’m curious as to how science could disprove God.[/b]Contrary to common atheist folklore, science has spent the last century bringing us closer to belief in the supernatural. It’s a shame that there aren’t enough Christians aware of this to point it out often enough until it sticks. It’s a shame there aren’t enough Christians who know that science is on their side.

As to your point concerning the difference between life with and without God:

- Atheism is only tenable in a predominantly religious society. If we all began to live without belief in God as a result of some impossible scientific discovery, it would ultimately destroy society or lead back to religion. The reason for this is because atheists take for granted the religious pillars all civilized societies are built on; the concept of morality and legislation for instance go hand in hand. Rather than reorder society after the eradication of religion, atheists would need to continue pretending as though religion still had moral force in society; until someone asks: “why can’t I just do whatever I want”. In the end we’ll arrive at a religious society because atheistic society is unsustainable and humans are incurably religious.

- On a personal, rather than sociological, level religion provides purpose for living. Atheism doesn’t. On atheism, suicide is not morally abhorrent. Western nations are beginning to witness the effects of unbelief as their citizens increasingly end their own lives. Let me ask you a question: would it make any difference if you were going to kill yourself today or tomorrow? On atheism, it certainly wouldn’t. On atheism, the fact that we are going to die one day is enough motivation for us to end our lives at once. Anything is enough motivation for us to end our lives.

- Contrary to what many atheists believe, increasing secularism negatively correlates with happiness in society. While happiness isn’t the point of life, it is worth noting that the decline of religion has been accompanied by increased depression in the west.

Note that none of the above is meant to validate the authenticity of religion. Instead it is to conceptualize the faithless society posited in the op.