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Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by PNomsule: 5:53am On Sep 17, 2022
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BeardedMeat:
How did you arrive at this conclusion?

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Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by PNomsule: 5:59am On Sep 17, 2022
NinjaXmetahuman:
simple google seeach.

www.google.com


No na, you don't expect him to Google that, he made efforts to ask politely. You at least should afford him and many others who are bewildered at your premise.
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by Themandator: 6:02am On Sep 17, 2022
Wisdomkosi:


How?

The Bank is a useless bank.. It should go under as fast as possible

Look for the story here

The guys received something like 200k or more but less than a million naira, his account was blocked, he went to their only physical office in Lagos by their own invitation and they called EFCC on him

The fools returned online to issue a statement defending themselves that they are following the due process

Not billions not even millions... That was the day I transferred back to normal bank and deleted their app
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by PNomsule: 6:20am On Sep 17, 2022
BeardedMeat:
I know these.

But to say bank charges amount to nothing in revenue is being unfair to banks. So many have declared in billions, revenue from charges alone. Not the only source of income, but a good one.
If those charges meant nothing, some banks won't use COT free as a spelling point.

As an insider, I can authoritatively say that banks profits from Loans are the least contributing component of their overall income.

No bank relies on loan interest component for profit at least in Nigeria.

The climate is not conducive for it. We are terrible as a people at servicing debts and loan repayment. A good question would be, why don't the banks jump at it with smiles when people request and apply for loans?!

Even such loans that are collateralised with big properties, how easy it is to liquidate such properties and recover depositors funds especially when you factor in the principle of time value for money?

To cap it up, how much is the interest sef, 25% per annum or in that range... abysmally low when compared to the overall cost of running the bank. Ratio of defaulters are high etc...

Clearly, bank charges contribute significantly to her earnings as it is a multiplier effect. Banks are equally involved in other auxiliary and sometime complimentary services/businesses e.g Zenith bank for example runs Venus Medicare. We already know that Heirs Holding, owners of UBA operate hospitality biz as Transcorp, also GenCos... and the list is endless including very shady and dark businesses not excluding drugs.

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Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by Poleski: 7:15am On Sep 17, 2022
DrRasheed:
There's no fcknn way Fintech will flourish under multiple taxation policies of this administration. Kuda Bank has really tried but woefully failed.


Modified:
You see how useless we chose to be in this country? The above comment has nothing to do with double taxation, but see how rush to like it.
This is just how Peter Obi is uselessly explaining his economic policies using Buka arithmetics.


Only idiots blame Peter Obi for the mess in this country when he's NOT the president yet.
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by Poleski: 7:33am On Sep 17, 2022
Things have gotten worse for Kuda since it began using the EFCC to beat up their customers, refused to release many of their clients' money, and randomly blocked clients' accounts.

The company has mostly bad reviews on the internet, and no company will survive with such massive negative reviews.

If you have money with Kuda, now is the time for you to withdraw it all before you lose it forever. Hopefully you will succeed in withdrawing your money because some clients aren't successful. If you planned to invest in Kuda, don't do so!
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by Wisdomkosi(m): 7:58am On Sep 17, 2022
Themandator:


The Bank is a useless bank.. It should go under as fast as possible

Look for the story here

The guys received something like 200k or more but less than a million naira, his account was blocked, he went to their only physical office in Lagos by their own invitation and they called EFCC on him

The fools returned online to issue a statement defending themselves that they are following the due process

Not billions not even millions... That was the day I transferred back to normal bank and deleted their app


Na waoo. I Don dey fear the man like this
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by BeardedMeat(m): 8:35am On Sep 17, 2022
PNomsule:


As an insider, I can authoritatively say that banks profits from Loans are the least contributing component of their overall income.

No bank relies on loan interest component for profit at least in Nigeria.

The climate is not conducive for it. We are terrible as a people at servicing debts and loan repayment. A good question would be, why don't the banks jump at it with smiles when people request and apply for loans?!

Even such loans that are collateralised with big properties, how easy it is to liquidate such properties and recover depositors funds especially when you factor in the principle of time value for money?

To cap it up, how much is the interest sef, 25% per annum or in that range... abysmally low when compared to the overall cost of running the bank. Ratio of defaulters are high etc...

Clearly, bank charges contribute significantly to her earnings as it is a multiplier effect. Banks are equally involved in other auxiliary and sometime complimentary services/businesses e.g Zenith bank for example runs Venus Medicare. We already know that Heirs Holding, owners of UBA operate hospitality biz as Transcorp, also GenCos... and the list is endless including very shady and dark businesses not excluding drugs.
I know all these buddy. I was in UBA when it merged with Standard trust. I was in the bank when soludo did his beat in CBN. We are basically saying the same things. I don't why that thinks otherwise.
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by PNomsule: 10:34am On Sep 17, 2022
BeardedMeat:
I know all these buddy. I was in UBA when it merged with Standard trust. I was in the bank when soludo did his beat in CBN. We are basically saying the same things. I don't why that thinks otherwise.

I was equally only butressing your point further buddy.

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Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by BluntTheApostle(m): 1:00pm On Sep 17, 2022
SmartyPants:
This was due to bad debts.

This is why I have no sympathy for those embarrassed by loan sharks.

Nigerians have a terrible exploitative culture.


Why do I feel like you are a loan shark agent?

The reality is that when you are a financial institution, and you lend money, you have already entered a credit risk.

Bad loans is not a Nigerian thing. It happens everywhere in the world.

In fact, if we were to go by your logic, since India has the largest bad loan figure, Indians must have a terribly exploitative culture, and loan apps are justified in illegally embarrassing people.

There are different types of defaulters.

There may be those who intend not to repay.

But you can't tar everyone with the same brush. That is generalization. Which is a very terrible way to see society.

Look at Innoson who has a loan to repay but can't because he loaned money to a state government which has been unable to repay him. Can you honestly say he has the intention of not repaying his loan?

Whether you are operating in Nigeria or America, once you lend money to someone or a business (whether Nigerian or American), there is no guarantee that you will get your money back.

Kuda knew this, and went into that business with that at the back of their mind.

I sympathize with them. But it is not enough to justify the illegal practises of loan sharks who abuse confidential data and use blackmail tactics to recover loans.

At this period when we are up in arms against these illegal entities, it is hard to tolerate unguided comments such as yours which can create a drawback.

You cannot be sure which of your loved ones may be patronizing these loan sharks until you see their pictures on the internet with the loan agent claiming that they have sickle cell anemia or that they are dead.
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by SmartyPants(m): 2:55pm On Sep 17, 2022
BluntTheApostle:



Why do I feel like you are a loan shark agent?

The reality is that when you are a financial institution, and you lend money, you have already entered a credit risk.

Bad loans is not a Nigerian thing. It happens everywhere in the world.

In fact, if we were to go by your logic, since India has the largest bad loan figure, Indians must have a terribly exploitative culture, and loan apps are justified in illegally embarrassing people.

There are different types of defaulters.

There may be those who intend not to repay.

But you can't tar everyone with the same brush. That is generalization. Which is a very terrible way to see society.

Look at Innoson who has a loan to repay but can't because he loaned money to a state government which has been unable to repay him. Can you honestly say he has the intention of not repaying his loan?

Whether you are operating in Nigeria or America, once you lend money to someone or a business (whether Nigerian or American), there is no guarantee that you will get your money back.

Kuda knew this, and went into that business with that at the back of their mind.

I sympathize with them. But it is not enough to justify the illegal practises of loan sharks who abuse confidential data and use blackmail tactics to recover loans.

At this period when we are up in arms against these illegal entities, it is hard to tolerate unguided comments such as yours which can create a drawback.

You cannot be sure which of your loved ones may be patronizing these loan sharks until you see their pictures on the internet with the loan agent claiming that they have sickle cell anemia or that they are dead.



Go back and rethink all you've written here.

1. Do you know the role lenders play in the economy? Do you know what will happen if major lenders like Kuda crash because people essentially steal from them? Don't come in here with a lack of education on the issues, making emotional arguments.

Let me even come to our level of understanding. If Kuda closes down and your family member was a staff member suddenly made jobless, will you tell them what you've just said?

2. Nigerians overwhelmingly have an exploitative culture. That does not mean every single Nigerian borrows and has no intention of paying back. What I've alluded to is the fact that the majority of Nigerians have an exploitative culture.

Can you deny that the vast majority of Nigerian borrowers take other people's money knowing from the start that they have neither the means nor the interest in paying it back?

This requires no defence. Basic comprehension would have prevented you from drafting all that irrelevant stuff about Innoson. Basic observation can also show you the absolute truth of what I have said.

Do the vast majority of Nigerian drivers obey traffic rules without being forced?
Has Nigeria stopped being one of the most corrupt nations on earth?
Is Nigeria not among the top terrorised nations on earth?
Is Nigeria not among the least livable places in the world?

Are those not the hallmarks of an exploitative culture?

Why not go and meet the compilers of these indices and argue that it's not true, because not everyone and not everywhere in Nigeria is like that since you don't understand the difference between a hasty generalization and a statistical inference?

3. Indians indeed have an extremely exploitative culture. What exactly would that prove or disprove?

4. My family members being involved in folly is not an argument against their folly being folly.

5. Never said all that the loan sharks do is correct. I said I have no sympathy for those embarrassed by them, and I never will. Those who come to equity must come with clean hands.

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Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by Kobicove(m): 11:47pm On Sep 17, 2022
BluntTheApostle:



Why do I feel like you are a loan shark agent?

The reality is that when you are a financial institution, and you lend money, you have already entered a credit risk.

Bad loans is not a Nigerian thing. It happens everywhere in the world.

In fact, if we were to go by your logic, since India has the largest bad loan figure, Indians must have a terribly exploitative culture, and loan apps are justified in illegally embarrassing people.

There are different types of defaulters.

There may be those who intend not to repay.

But you can't tar everyone with the same brush. That is generalization. Which is a very terrible way to see society.

Look at Innoson who has a loan to repay but can't because he loaned money to a state government which has been unable to repay him. Can you honestly say he has the intention of not repaying his loan?

Whether you are operating in Nigeria or America, once you lend money to someone or a business (whether Nigerian or American), there is no guarantee that you will get your money back.

Kuda knew this, and went into that business with that at the back of their mind.

I sympathize with them. But it is not enough to justify the illegal practises of loan sharks who abuse confidential data and use blackmail tactics to recover loans.

At this period when we are up in arms against these illegal entities, it is hard to tolerate unguided comments such as yours which can create a drawback.

You cannot be sure which of your loved ones may be patronizing these loan sharks until you see their pictures on the internet with the loan agent claiming that they have sickle cell anemia or that they are dead.



The guy you quoted is correct, Nigerians have an exploitative culture. An average Nigeria would borrow money from you with the intention of not paying back!

This terrible attitude cuts across both sexes and all age brackets whether young or old.

Do you have any idea how many millions I have 'outside' just because I trusted my fellow Nigerians?

I have stopped lending money to friends and family member even if you come to me crying tears of blood I will just tell you I have no money.

Has someone who begged to borrow money from you ever told you "Why are you disturbing me because of ordinary 180K after all Nigeria is also owing?" angry

This was an incident that happened over 9 years ago but till today the loan is still unpaid! angry
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by BluntTheApostle(m): 11:07am On Sep 19, 2022
Kobicove:


The guy you quoted is correct, Nigerians have an exploitative culture. An average Nigeria would borrow money from you with the intention of not paying back!

This terrible attitude cuts across both sexes and all age brackets whether young or old.

Do you have any idea how many millions I have 'outside' just because I trusted my fellow Nigerians?

I have stopped lending money to friends and family member even if you come to me crying tears of blood I will just tell you I have no money.

Has someone who begged to borrow money from you ever told you "Why are you disturbing me because of ordinary 180K after all Nigeria is also owing?" angry

This was an incident that happened over 9 years ago but till today the loan is still unpaid! angry


When I was in Netherlands, a Dutch friend of mine received a call from his mother begging for a few euros for groceries. You know what my Dutch friend said to the mother, he rejected her with what I later found out to be a common Dutch proverb: "If you lend a friend money, you will lose both the friend and the money"

That is to tell tell you that the world over, people don't really like repaying loans. Research have shown that many even consider it an inconvenience.

It is not a Nigerian thing. I have seen incidences everywhere, even among wealthy Americans, British, etc.
Re: Kuda Bank Lost ₦6 Billion In 2021 by BluntTheApostle(m): 11:37am On Sep 19, 2022
SmartyPants:


Go back and rethink all you've written here.

1. Do you know the role lenders play in the economy? Do you know what will happen if major lenders like Kuda crash because people essentially steal from them? Don't come in here with a lack of education on the issues, making emotional arguments.

Let me even come to our level of understanding. If Kuda closes down and your family member was a staff member suddenly made jobless, will you tell them what you've just said?

2. Nigerians overwhelmingly have an exploitative culture. That does not mean every single Nigerian borrows and has no intention of paying back. What I've alluded to is the fact that the majority of Nigerians have an exploitative culture.

Can you deny that the vast majority of Nigerian borrowers take other people's money knowing from the start that they have neither the means nor the interest in paying it back?

This requires no defence. Basic comprehension would have prevented you from drafting all that irrelevant stuff about Innoson. Basic observation can also show you the absolute truth of what I have said.

Do the vast majority of Nigerian drivers obey traffic rules without being forced?
Has Nigeria stopped being one of the most corrupt nations on earth?
Is Nigeria not among the top terrorised nations on earth?
Is Nigeria not among the least livable places in the world?

Are those not the hallmarks of an exploitative culture?

Why not go and meet the compilers of these indices and argue that it's not true, because not everyone and not everywhere in Nigeria is like that since you don't understand the difference between a hasty generalization and a statistical inference?

3. Indians indeed have an extremely exploitative culture. What exactly would that prove or disprove?

4. My family members being involved in folly is not an argument against their folly being folly.

5. Never said all that the loan sharks do is correct. I said I have no sympathy for those embarrassed by them, and I never will. Those who come to equity must come with clean hands.

Then, the Netherlands must have an exploitative culture too since a popular Dutch proverb says:

If you lend a friend money, you will lose both the friend and the money

Loans are far much asier to collect than repay.

This is not a Nigerian thing.

And you should not even justify the abuse from loan sharks.

Let me tell you my own experience. Before, I used to take only payday loans, and that was from Access and FCMB (FastCash). Once my salary comes in, I repay both banks.

But one day, I patronized one certain loan app, NKash. I needed money for petrol, and a few groceries, and I had running loans with my banks, but my salary was late.

So, I took a loan from NKash, 3k to repay 3200 in 6 days. On the day I took the loan, my salary came through. Immediately, I repaid NKash via transfer. Their payment methods were so confusing that I thought I was paying into my NKash virtual account. I did not know that I was making transfer, and I had to send proof.

5 days later, I began to get series of calls from numbers that were not on my contact list. True Caller had the IDs as "Fraudster". So, I ignored. The next thing is a SMS threatening blackmail and data breach, from NKash if I did not repay before 4 that day.

I redownloaded the app (I had deleted it after repaying), and saw that the loan had not been cleared from the dashboard. Besides that, supposing I had not even repaid, how can you be threatening someone when their loan is still performing? Who does that?

Anyway, I tried to look for proof of payment, but could not find it. These idiots kept up their threats that I was almost tempted to make another repayments.

But then, came the last straw. A Whatsapp message threatening my mother. I lost it. Meanwhile, I had checked comments on their app on Google Play and since their frauds. So, I wrote back in very mean terms asking the idiots to check their system on (I gave the date and time of day). I threatened with FCCPC, and drafted a letter ready for ICPC and NPF and shared a copy with them.

My brother, why this long story?

It is not everyone that has been defamed by unscrupulous loan sharks that borrowed without an intention of repaying.

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