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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by awakmfon03(m): 5:00pm On Sep 18, 2022
Did you read that 1cor 11 very well. I'll advise you read it again and if possible in different versions of the bible .
It wasn't a directive but and advice so that they don't look different from other churches then.
Verse 5 clearly shows that it was a Jewish custom (tradition)
porka:
Pastor Kumuyi has been trying lately to unfetter the members of his church from unnecessary dogma and traditions of men, which had made his congregation shrink and unappealing to the younger generation and therefore not having any future sustainability.

He is trying to untie them from dangerous beliefs that they had previously assumed are the manifestations of holiness, but which are mere human standards.

But in doing this, baba has sometimes got more people confused than before. In this case of women covering their head in the church, it is clearly written in the scripture he quoted (1 Corinthians 11:5). So one wonders what exactly is the trouble if an usher demands that a woman should cover her head at the entrance of the church.

Maybe prophecy is not general, giving that prophecy is a gift for a select few, which makes it exclusive, but can anyone enter the church and not pray? The rest of the verses in the chapter explained the whole issue clearly (from 1 Corinthians 11:6).

Pastor Kumuyi should be careful in throwing his church into confusion. The younger generation that he is trying to attract are even the ones that need biblical guidance from their entitlement tendencies. They should not be indulged to create their own rules.

Baba should know that it is not everyone that will be comfortable coming to the church. There is nothing wrong in women covering their head in the church. Christianity is accepted by faith.
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Nobody: 5:01pm On Sep 18, 2022
tishbite42:

Man stop lying
I was born and bred in DLBC
TV was called the devil's box
He started deviating when he started live transmission.
Yes he called TV devil's box.
But do you know what TV was called at that time - outside the church? undecided

It was called "idiot box" (just type the word on Google and see what it brings out).

Now, does it mean that people who watch TV then are idiots, because it's called idiot's box?

We still have the message at home.

You will understand the whole context better when you watch the full message.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by CheapHomes1: 5:02pm On Sep 18, 2022
safesurfer:

Kumuyi never said watching TV is a sin.

Why then were deeper life members not having tv in their homes?

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Jflex07(m): 5:02pm On Sep 18, 2022
safesurfer:

"do not watch television" - he never said that at any time but it's a long story. One that either exposes the ignorance or malice of his haters at that time (the 1980's)

For instance, have you ever wondered why something like "television has done more harm than good to Nigerian srudents" debates always feature in secondary schools and even SSCE questions in the past (pre 2003) but rarely ever does these days?

Modified: and even as a deeper life member, I don't believe that wearing trouser, as a woman, is a sin. BUT church rules are church rules.
But do you think deeperlifers will wear trousers on the future?
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by LIVINGICONREBOR: 5:03pm On Sep 18, 2022
Kai, dose gals wan use hair odour wound baba. Damn!! angry

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by eziemich: 5:04pm On Sep 18, 2022
Karleb:


They will get there. They will even start wearing bum shorts but at home for their husbands sha.
Guy u made my day. My laugh here no be small. Nairalanders una funny die

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Nobody: 5:05pm On Sep 18, 2022
reservd:
Was he also referring to first timers when he said women no longer look attractive to their husbands or young ladies not presentable? Is he just noticing how his members and followers dress?
Oga he preaches this exact message from time to time when marriage based topics come up. It's not a new message to lifers.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Nobody: 5:06pm On Sep 18, 2022
Jflex07:
But do you think deeperlifers will wear trousers on the future?
I think so. I pray so.
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by zionstaar75: 5:06pm On Sep 18, 2022
Righthussle:
Yesterday: Every woman must cover her head very well before entering the house of God.

Today: Story don change

Yesterday: Television belongs to the devil,don't watch it.

Today: Television is good for the Gospel.


Confused scammers.

You steal from the poor to build schools that their children and grand children can not attend.

Pulpit bandit. Old liar. You made my grandmother give you 10 percent of her farm produce for nearly 20 years only for you to use the money to build expensive secondary schools and university and buy exotic cars.

STOP GIVING THESE THIEVES YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. WHOEVER MADE THIS UNIVERSE CANNOT AND WILL NEVER NEED MONEY FOR ANY!!!! THING.
I've been giving them money for 22years and my life has become better now so how can I listen to the heresy ure saying

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Oceanz: 5:07pm On Sep 18, 2022
Oga Kumuyi has gone nuts again.Baba God pls help Nigeria and this generation.
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by tishbite42: 5:08pm On Sep 18, 2022
safesurfer:

Yes he called TV devil's box.
But do you know what TV was called at that time - outside the church? undecided

It was called "idiot box" (just type the word on Google and see what it brings out).

Now, does it mean that people who watch TV then are idiots, because it's called idiot's box?

We still have the message at home.

You will understand the whole context better when you watch the full message.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself
Now, it's now Jesus or holiness box abi
Kumuyi should apologise to those whose lives he derailed because they foolishly followed his doctrines
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by warriking(m): 5:08pm On Sep 18, 2022
Righteousness2:
The day you misinterpret dressing shabbily as covering up yourself properly , or not dressing shabbily as dressing Seductively or dressing naked, just know that the devil has sealed and signed you for Destruction and Hell.

Be properly dressed. Be neat. Cover up yourself properly.

As a woman don't put on men clothing.
As a man don't put on women's clothings.
Doing such is abomination. That is the word of God.
You MOGs always know how to judge vita issues to confuse God's followers, oga is covering or opening of female hair right or not in the house of God? You couldn't place it well in your comment sir. Tell us what it is please.
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by ednut1(m): 5:08pm On Sep 18, 2022
All a business strategy. The older generation that used to pay tithes are now dead or retirees now. Baba wan appeal to the younger generation. Bunch of scammers
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Ken4Christ: 5:11pm On Sep 18, 2022
iamwilliamsfx:


Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/kumuyi-to-ushers-stop-imposing-persistent-head-covering-on-ladies-it-causes-odour/

Finally, Pastor Kumuyi has taken courage to address this issue. You can't be a Bible student and not find out the truth with time.

The church is gradually coming to the unity of faith. Very soon, he will address the issue of putting on trousers.

Covering of head is not even supposed to be a doctrine to start with. For anything to be a doctrine, it must have at least two witnesses. But this issue was only addressed in one passage of the Bible.

Even Apostle Paul who introduced it concluded that it is not binding on the church.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Righthussle: 5:12pm On Sep 18, 2022
zionstaar75:
I've been giving them money for 22years and my life has become better now so how can I listen to the heresy ure saying

And you think it is the money that has made your life better ?
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Nobody: 5:12pm On Sep 18, 2022
CheapHomes1:


Why then did were deeper life members not having tv in their homes?
Because it was ignorance on their part.
We were, and still are, deeper life members.
We had television in our house. Many of our members that I know had TV in their houses too.

He referred to TV as devil's box.
TV was referred to as idiot box in those days. Confirm from Google.

He only took the idiom to a religious extent, warning members that uncontrolled use of the 'box' will make it a tool in the hand of Satan to derail believers from God's purpose for their lives.
And if they couldn't control the use of it, then they better do away with it.

That's the summarised context of that message.

We still have the radio cassette in our house. Unfortunately, we don't have radio that uses cassette anymore.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Gospel2Day: 5:13pm On Sep 18, 2022
Righthussle:
Yesterday: Every woman must cover her head very well before entering the house of God.

Today: Story don change

Yesterday: Television belongs to the devil,don't watch it.

Today: Television is good for the Gospel.


Confused scammers.

You steal from the poor to build schools that their children and grand children can not attend.

Pulpit bandit. Old liar. You made my grandmother give you 10 percent of her farm produce for nearly 20 years only for you to use the money to build expensive secondary schools and university and buy exotic cars.

STOP GIVING THESE THIEVES YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. WHOEVER MADE THIS UNIVERSE CANNOT AND WILL NEVER NEED MONEY FOR ANY!!!! THING.

Kumuyi is not responsible for your frustration.
Stop venting your rage on him.
Why do you give political thieves in government your taxes?
What has Nigeria done with your taxes?
You're not serious.
We will continue to give our money to God.
You give yours to alcoholism, womanizing, partying and gambling
Leave us to spend our own money anyhow we choose.
Shalom.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by God2man2again(m): 5:13pm On Sep 18, 2022
Thank you Sir.

It is sign of maturity to see the fault or mistake in the system and you take responsibility to correct it.

I agree that the hair needs fresh air.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by etrouble: 5:13pm On Sep 18, 2022
Blackfire:
angry

Deeper life

That one na church ?

No, na Mosque. You unrepentant serial sinner. Because dem no dey allow your prostituting female friends to be nakked in Church like they do in Oyakhilome and Okotie's business centres.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by IfnobeGod20: 5:13pm On Sep 18, 2022
Righteousness2:
The day you misinterpret dressing shabbily as covering up yourself properly , or not dressing shabbily as dressing Seductively or dressing naked, just know that the devil has sealed and signed you for Destruction and Hell.

Be properly dressed. Be neat. Cover up yourself properly.

As a woman don't put on men clothing.
As a man don't put on women's clothings.
Doing such is abomination. That is the word of God.
What are men clothing please?
Please also lead me to bible text that specifically mention which are men or women clothing.

Why are asked the above questions, is because where you live determine the specific clothe men or women wear.
There are some cultures that their men wear rappers and there are some cultures that their women put on trousers because of the peculiarity of their weather. Please more clarification.

Finally, in your submission you did not place in perspective the issue Pst. Kumuyi raised about covering of head. Was Pst. Kumuyi right or wrong? If he is right or wrong, give biblical direction.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Nobody: 5:14pm On Sep 18, 2022
Ken4Christ:


Finally, Pastor Kumuyi has taken courage to address this issue. You can't be a Bible student and not find out the truth with time.

The church is gradually coming to the unity of faith. Very soon, he will address the issue of putting on trousers.

Covering of head is not even supposed to be a doctrine to start with. For anything to be a doctrine, it must have at least two witnesses. But this issue was only addressed in one passage of the Bible.

Even Apostle Paul who introduced it concluded that it is not binding on the church.
It was never a Bible doctrine. Just a church rule which can change over time.
Why do people make it look like its a bad thing? undecided

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Nobody: 5:15pm On Sep 18, 2022
Gospel2Day:


Kumuyi is not responsible for your frustration.
Stop venting your rage on him.
Why do you give political thieves in government your taxes?
What has Nigeria done with your taxes?
You're not serious.
We will continue to give our money to God.
You give yours to alcoholism, womanizing, partying and gambling
Leave us to spend our own money anyhow we choose.
Shalom.
On point.

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by Nobody: 5:18pm On Sep 18, 2022
ednut1:
All a business strategy. The older generation that used to pay tithes are now dead or retirees now. Baba wan appeal to the younger generation. Bunch of scammers
Yes because he'll live for a 600 years to continue to 'scam' young people.
Mtcheew.
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by AngelicBeing: 5:20pm On Sep 18, 2022
wink
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by OSESUNATE(m): 5:22pm On Sep 18, 2022
LordIsaac:
SMH. Before you emphasize a dogma, be sure that your followers truly understand what you mean. So that 40 years later, you won't be confusing them!

Did you even read thru what was written there?

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Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by sonofthunder: 5:25pm On Sep 18, 2022
Mercury12:
lol u think say nah fake news?

There was no link provided before
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by CheapHomes1: 5:27pm On Sep 18, 2022
safesurfer:

Because it was ignorance on their part.
We were, and still are, deeper life members.
We had television in our house. Many of our members that I know had TV in their houses too.

He referred to TV as devil's box.
TV was referred to as idiot box in those days. Confirm from Google.

He only took the idiom to a religious extent, warning members that uncontrolled use of the 'box' will make it a tool in the hand of Satan to derail believers from God's purpose for their lives.
And if they couldn't control the use of it, then they better do away with it.

That's the summarised context of that message.

We still have the radio cassette in our house. Unfortunately, we don't have radio that uses cassette anymore.

Who taught them the ignorance they practiced? Can you give me the exact figure of the many of your members that you knew had tv in their homes?
Re: Kumuyi To Ushers: Stop Imposing Persistent Head Covering On Ladies, Causes Odour by ictplotter(m): 5:29pm On Sep 18, 2022
Winners chapel, christ embassy, salvation ministries etc don collect baba kumuyi young members finish with vibes and westernization , baba don turn his own preaching against his old dogmas but it's late for baba kumuyi.
Christianity is a religion of western vibes and contradictions, whatever u do in Christianity u are biblically right, if u like ask ur members to nake to the church. U are biblically right, read the songs of Solomon u will understand .

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