I am here again to shake the tables. There are some hard truths that are difficult to swallow but they are truth all the same.

We have been made to believe that the whole content of the Bible is the word of God. But this is not true for the following reasons;

1. The words the devil spoke are contained in it. Are we saying that the devil's word is God's word because it is in the Bible.

2. Even a donkey spoke and it was recorded. The donkey's word certainly isn't God's word.

3. Men also spoke their opinions on certain occasions. These words spoken by some of these men are not God's word.

Let's find examples in the Scriptures to back up my last point.

During the affliction of Job, he said so many things which are recorded. For instance, Job said;

Job 1:21 And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.

This statement by Job is not true. The devil is the one who comes to kill, steal and destroy.

Yes, there are Scriptures that says God kills too. But he does that as an act of judgment.

God does not kill his children. Which father on earth will like to kill his children.

The scripture says:

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Death is certainly not a good gift and it can't come from God.

So, not every content in the Bible is God's word More points later.

Ken4Christ:

Job 1:21 And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.

1. This statement by Job is not true. The devil is the one who comes to kill, steal and destroy.

2. Yes, there are Scriptures that says God kills too. But he does that as an act of judgment. God does not kill his children. Which father on earth will like to kill his children.

3. Death is certainly not a good gift and it can't come from God.

1. I am afraid you are wrong on this one. Job was write that the one who OK'ed His affliction was God. Recall, nothing can happen to the righteous except permitted by God.

2. So you are saying that, for instance, when God buried about 14,000 israelites under the desert sands for violating Him, in one day, it wasn't God that did it? Be careful that you don't make God a liar by trying so hard to decide on His behalf what He can or cannot do.

3. But right there in scripture, not only are you told that God instituted death as punishment for disobedience - Genesis 2 vs 15 - 16 -, He also defined clearly what death is and how it operates by His terms for man - Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22. So?

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid you are wrong on this one. Job was write that the one who OK'ed His affliction was God. Recall, [b]nothing can happen to the righteous[/b]except permitted by God.

You say this yet you never understand that the Righteous are always always protected until the day God intends to use them to show Satan that even if he does his best, God's elect will still beat him.

Which also means that Satan is free to afflict any person who is not under God's Cover.

Ken4Christ:
I am here again to shake the tables. There are some hard truths that are difficult to swallow but they are truth all the same.

We have been made to believe that the whole content of the Bible is the word of God. But this is not true for the following reasons;

1. The words the devil spoke are contained in it. Are we saying that the devil's word is God's word because it is in the Bible.

2. Even a donkey spoke and it was recorded. The donkey's word certainly isn't God's word.

3. Men also spoke their opinions on certain occasions. These words spoken by some of these men are not God's word.

Let's find examples in the Scriptures to back up my last point...

It goes without saying.

We all know which parts are God's Word and which parts belong to others. Hence the game we used to play in literature in English _Who Said this, to whom and when!

So, no problems here.

Yeah that is true, if you read kjv u will see that the word of God is underlined with Red

Wittydreh:
Yeah that is true, if you read kjv u will see that the word of God is underlined with Red

Everyone knows that.

Wittydreh:
Yeah that is true, if you read kjv u will see that the word of God is underlined with Red

So why do folks mistake their bible for the Word of God then?

God himself told Job;

Job 38:1-2
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE.

This is another evidence that proves that some of the things Job said are not in line with God's word.

So, when you are trying to establish a doctrine, know the authority you quote.

For instance, the Jehovah Witness teaches that the dead are unconscious because of what they read in statements made by men which are not true.

Ecclesiastes said;

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: BUT THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANY THING, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

They use this verse and a few other verses to say that the dead are unconscious.

But we do know that the dead lives on. So, Ecclesiastes can't be right on this subject.

There are times even Apostle Paul wrote his personal opinion in his letters. He indicated this by saying, I and not the Lord.

The final authority to establish any doctrine is the teachings of our Lord Jesus and his Apostles.

Ken4Christ:
God himself told Job;
Job 38:1-2
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE.
This is another evidence that proves that some of the things Job said are not in line with God's word.

Of course some of the things Job said were of his opinion. However, the particular statement Job made regarding the one who was responsible for his predicament was not wrong. For Pete's sake, we were informed of this in Job 1 when God goaded Satan into torturing Job in other to test Him, only Satan wasn't allowed to kill him, Job.

In Job 12 vs 1 - 10 , Job declared that all the birds of the air, and fishes of the sea are quite aware that nothing can happen without God's very consent. Even Jesus Christ Himself urged you to be happy that not a single sparrow can fall down and die without God knowing of it - Matthew 10 vs 29

In a prayer to God Jesus said:

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17 Holy Bible

What Jesus meant here is the teachings found in God's word, everything written in the Bible is absolute TRUTH regarding what has happened, what is happening and what will still happen in the future. So God's word is ever reliable to trust (believe)

When God's say "the dead are conscious of nothing" {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} it simply means after death man cease to exist and there is nothing living anywhere except the hope of a resurrection! Job 14:13-15

Ken4Christ:
So, when you are trying to establish a doctrine, know the authority you quote. For instance, the Jehovah Witness teaches that the dead are unconscious because of what they read in statements made by men which are not true.

Ecclesiastes said; Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: BUT THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANY THING, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

They use this verse and a few other verses to say that the dead are unconscious. But we do know that the dead lives on. So, Ecclesiastes can't be right on this subject.

Not all the dead live on, because God Himself condemned all unbelievers from the beginning to perish in the grave - from dust, you were made and to dust, you shall return - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22. And so when an unbeliever dies, he does not "live on" as you claim but instead God's judgment is carried out on what remains of the breath-of-life-less man left behind.

Instead, as Jesus Christ informed you in John 3 vs 5 - 8, it is only those who have experienced a spiritual birth aka have obtained Eternal life from God that live on even after they are dead in this world.

Ken4Christ:
There are times even Apostle Paul wrote his personal opinion in his letters. He indicated this by saying, I and not the Lord.

Majority of Paul's claims were of his personal opinion. As a matter of fact, 99% of his teachings are unrelated to the Gospel opinions are not directly related to the teachings of Jesus Christ as expressed in what are the 4 Gospels.

Ken4Christ:
The final authority to establish any doctrine is the teachings of our Lord Jesus and his Apostles.

The problem with the above is that it violates Jesus Christ who instead said that those who are His followers are those who submit to and obey His Teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25 and John 15 vs 1 - 14 & Matthew 7 vs 24 - 29.... . Claiming the doctrines of the apostles is an addition to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ which were declared finished on the cross by Jesus Christ is akin to adding the doctrines and traditions of men to God's Law, a direct violation of His commandment to His followers.

MaxInDHouse:
In a prayer to God Jesus said: Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17 Holy Bible

What Jesus meant here is the teachings found in God's word, everything written in the Bible is absolute TRUTH regarding what has happened, what is happening and what will still happen in the future. So God's word is ever reliable to trust (believe)
When God's say "the dead are conscious of nothing" {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} it simply means after death man cease to exist and there is nothing living anywhere except the hope of a resurrection! Job 14:13-15

There is no mention of the word "Holy Bible" in the context that is John 17 vs 17. So are you now attempting to rewrite scripture by adding your personal interpretation in God's own mouth?
According to Jesus Christ, the Word of God is He, and it is He that will last forever, not your bible.

33 The whole world, earth and sky, will be destroyed, but my words will last forever. - Luke 21 vs 33

Do not go about blindly inserting your own delusion in place of God's own declaration and Truth.