Men of God in the house, what's your take on this. Is it only when a couple is joined together by a cleric or a servant of God that a man and a woman can become husband and wife

Ask the so called pastor to give you the name of the church/pastor that joined Abraham and Sarah together or to remind you of the name of the pastor that was at the wedding ceremony where Jesus turned water into wine.

Flee from false prophets for the look like sheep but they are wolves and will lead to the destruction of your soul.

As A Christian it's a personal decision between you and your partner to allow a priest or pastor join you together or pray for you after your marriage. Infact you can pray over your marriage yourself if you want as long as you truly believe you are a Christian.

Doveheart:
Men of God in the house, what's your take on this. Is it only when a couple is joined together by a cleric or a servant of God that a man and a woman can become husband and wife

No it is not the only way. When people have sex, they become husband and wife

When a couple is put together by God what we know as falling in love, they become husband and wife.

All these ceremony of paying bride price and being joined by persons is just to fulfill the rightness of respecting the families of couple and to publicly show to the world that God has indeed joined the couple.

MrAligator:
As A Christian it's a personal decision between you and your partner to allow a priest or pastor join you together or pray for you after your marriage. Infact you can pray over your marriage yourself if you want as long as you truly believe you are a Christian.

This is not true! God commands us to do "all that is right".

So Sarah had a family and Abraham had a family and for the fact that he was married and leaving with his father shows that all who should have been notified of their intention were truly notified.

MrAligator:
■ Ask the so called pastor to give you the name of the church/pastor that joined Abraham and Sarah together or to remind you of the name of the pastor that was at the wedding ceremony where Jesus turned water into wine. Flee from false prophets for the look like sheep but they are wolves and will lead to the destruction of your soul.
■ As A Christian it's a personal decision between you and your partner to allow a priest or pastor join you together or pray for you after your marriage. Infact you can pray over your marriage yourself if you want as long as you truly believe you are a Christian.

1. Fiee the religion of men --- your pastors and mogs, along with their churches.

2. So long as your relationship with God is tailored according to the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) you are bound to find yourself bound to them at some point. Flee religion.

Doveheart:
Men of God in the house, what's your take on this. Is it only when a couple is joined together by a cleric or a servant of God that a man and a woman can become husband and wife

Did u get his reason for that?

MrAligator:
Ask the so called pastor to give you the name of the church/pastor that joined Abraham and Sarah together or to remind you of the name of the pastor that was at the wedding ceremony where Jesus turned water into wine.

Flee from false prophets for the look like sheep but they are wolves and will lead to the destruction of your soul.

As A Christian it's a personal decision between you and your partner to allow a priest or pastor join you together or pray for you after your marriage. Infact you can pray over your marriage yourself if you want as long as you truly believe you are a Christian.

Before u start calling the man of God all sorts of names, did Adam pay any dowry b4 marrying Eve? Did Cain pay any dowry b4 marrying his sister? Dowry is a human or traditional law, not God's law. The most important thing is the consent of both parents for them to live together. If both parents agree for them to live together under one roof, marriage as taken place. Whether the dowry is being paid or not. But traditions have ruin everything, that's why u see our ladies going beyond 40 without marriage or having children. This is not to say i am against payment of dowry. It should be optional or a thing of choice. If i have a daughter that is of age for marriage, and the man she is engage with loves her and is willing to take care of her but not rich enough to go tru these marriage rites stress, i may not collect dowry from him. Her happiness is my priority.

Dtruthspeaker:


No it is not the only way. When people have sex, they become husband and wife

When a couple is put together by God what we know as falling in love, they become husband and wife.

All these ceremony of paying bride price and being joined by persons is just to fulfill the rightness of respecting the families of couple and to publicly show to the world that God has indeed joined the couple.

Also, If there is a consent/approval/awareness from both parents that both of them are seeing each other or she is living with the man, marriage as taken place.

Truvelisback:
Also, If there is a consent/approval/awareness from both parents that both of them are seeing each other or she is living with the man, marriage as taken place.

Correct! This is what The Law calls Cohabitation. This is also a type of marriage.

Dtruthspeaker:


Correct! This is what The Law calls Cohabitation. This is also a type of marriage.

The most important thing about two lovers is to get the conscious consent of their parents either by words, disposition, ceremonial rites etc. All these court marriage is boundage

Truvelisback:
Also, If there is a consent/approval/awareness from both parents that both of them are seeing each other or she is living with the man, marriage as taken place.

Correct!

Truvelisback:
Before u start calling the man of God all sorts of names, did Adam pay any dowry b4 marrying Eve? Did Cain pay any dowry b4 marrying his sister? Dowry is a human or traditional law, not God's law. The most important thing is the consent of both parents for them to live together. If both parents agree for them to live together under one roof, marriage as taken place. Whether the dowry is being paid or not. But traditions have ruin everything, that's why u see our ladies going beyond 40 without marriage or having children. This is not to say i am against payment of dowry. It should be optional or a thing of choice. If i have a daughter that is of age for marriage, and the man she is engage with loves her and is willing to take care of her but not rich enough to go tru these marriage rites stress, i may not collect dowry from him. Her happiness is my priority.

On point sir!

Dtruthspeaker:


This is not true! God commands us to do "all that is right".

So Sarah had a family and Abraham had a family and for the fact that he was married and leaving with his father shows that all who should have been notified of their intention were truly notified.

How do you know he's notified them. You can't be sure.

MrAligator:
Ask the so called pastor to give you the name of the church/pastor that joined Abraham and Sarah together or to remind you of the name of the pastor that was at the wedding ceremony where Jesus turned water into wine.

Flee from false prophets for the look like sheep but they are wolves and will lead to the destruction of your soul.

As A Christian it's a personal decision between you and your partner to allow a priest or pastor join you together or pray for you after your marriage. Infact you can pray over your marriage yourself if you want as long as you truly believe you are a Christian.

What the pastor said doesn't translate him to a false prophets. Don't let us be too ash in our judgement. Everyone has a point on their own believe and opinion

Doveheart:

How do you know he's notified them. You can't be sure.

Is it possible for a man to live in his father's house with a wife? No.

They would have paid their respects to her parents before taking her in. And of course this was in those days when women had respect and dignity and therefore could not be taken out of her father's house without recourse to due process.

Doveheart:
... All these court marriage is boundage

I agree.

All this court marriage shit is just a control and bondage placed by criminals and bandits when they overun and conquer a territory, so as to get the people to submit to their unlawful rule and control.

That is why constitution and all these manmade laws are unlawful and God does not support any man ruling over other men in the deception of democracy or any crazy thing.

And the funny thing is that these criminals still used God's Law of respecting the family of the intending couple (consent) banning kin marriages (prohibited marriages) to protect their unlawfulness, that is why most people do not notice that this rulers are wrong and unlawful.

Doveheart:

What the pastor said doesn't translate him to a false prophets. Don't let us be too ash in our judgement. Everyone has a point on their own believe and opinion

I agree. He is not trying to make a false statements only a wrong one. Paying bride price presumes that proper and due process has been followed.

Doveheart:
What the pastor said doesn't translate him to a false prophets. Don't let us be too ash in our judgement. Everyone has a point on their own believe and opinion

What he said does since Jesus Christ no even send anyone to dey preach marriage using His name. Also, Scripture does not say a man and woman ought to obtain permission from either father or mother before marriage.

Kobojunkie:
What he said does since Jesus Christ no even send anyone to dey preach marriage using His name. Also, Scripture does not say a man and woman ought to obtain permission from either father or mother before marriage.

Scripture did not say you need to consent of the woman to marry her.

Doveheart:
Men of God in the house, what's your take on this. Is it only when a couple is joined together by a cleric or a servant of God that a man and a woman can become husband and wife

To a large extent, he is correct.

Your Pastor has a measure of spiritual authority over your life and you are expected to submit to authorities placed over you.

In just the way you can't get married without the approval of your biological father, no responsible member of a church would get married without the involvement and blessing of his Pastor.

Doing so is acting like a sheep without a shepherd.

Religion don seriously bulala the heads almost to point beyond repair!