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Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by Usonkwu: 8:39pm On Mar 26, 2023
First statement is ambiguous. Second statement is not. That's all to it. Rest, OP.
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by N3TRAL: 8:40pm On Mar 26, 2023
ejifranks:
this does not apply here and both are both conparable. It can only apply if the Constitution adds some extra to it. For instance like two thirds in each of all local governments in Lagos states and Ikeja. This makes Ikeja mandatory.

If "each" is to emphasize the counting of "each" state to calculate the 25% in two-thirds of the state. That's what it also does in Sections 133 and 134.

You can't read section 133 and 134 without section 299. This isn't Chatgpt.

It means in "each" of at least two-thirds of 37 states.

The each there is synonymous with "every". You have to see how its used throughout the constitution.

We have rules of interpretation in law. .
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by GreyLaw(m): 8:40pm On Mar 26, 2023
ejifranks:

Here Abuja is clearly seen as part of the states and all the candidate is requred is to score one quarter votes in at least 2/3 of all states even without Abuja and still will win the election.



Here "in each of" separates Abuja from other states and when a candidate passes the one quarter requirements in at least 2/3 of all states he also needs to get one quarter in FCT to win.

OP (Ddeliverer007) you dey do like say you no see this exquisite interpretation? Abeg give the guy the 20k a stop rigmarroling.
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by Mikespecialone(m): 8:42pm On Mar 26, 2023
Villa12:
It still mean the same thing

He asked for the difference between them and each is the only difference between them
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by Ddeliverer007(m): 8:44pm On Mar 26, 2023
GreyLaw:


OP (Ddeliverer007) you dey do like say you no see this exquisite interpretation? Abeg give the guy the 20k a stop rigmarroling.

I see am, but I still dey collate my data. I assure you once we finish the collation, we would do the needful..
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by N3TRAL: 8:45pm On Mar 26, 2023
Ddeliverer007:


I see am, but I still dey collate my data. I assure you once we finish the collation, we would do the needful..

What does each mean here abeg?

"he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the local government areas in the State, but where the only candidate fails to be elected in accordance with this section, then there shall be fresh nominations." Section 179(2).
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by OKOATA(m): 9:09pm On Mar 26, 2023
Did the constitution mention that FCT should be treated "as if it were" a state? Yes

Did the constitution mention that the president also act as the governor of FCT? Yes

Can an individual become governor of a state without getting 25% in 2/3rd of the state? NO

Case closed⚖️

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Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by Benard5050: 9:09pm On Mar 26, 2023
E be like say OP dey look for interpretation that suits him... Naija will be great again.
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by iLoveYouToo(m): 9:43pm On Mar 26, 2023
The difference is ‘in each of’
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by JoshuaSG: 10:05pm On Mar 26, 2023
Statement A:
he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

Statement B:
he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.


The two statements are the same if some editorial issues, which I listed below, are considered.

1. In both A and B, the phrase "at the election" would need to be corrected and rewritten as "at the elections".

2. The word "all" is redundant in both statements. So we can tighten the statements by rewriting as two-thirds of the states in the Federation.

3. In B, the phrase "each of" is redundant. Removing it leaves the meaning of the statement unchanged and the same as A.

4. In both A and B, the conjunction "and" joins the phrases "at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation" and "the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja." It can be split as:

"he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation [as well as] the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja."

Or in a verbose presentation as:

"he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and has not less than at least two-thirds of the votes cast at the election in the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja."

5. Finally given the gender inclusive campaign worldwide, the pronoun "he" need be changed to "he/she" or the now popular gender neutral singular "they". Else, some legal gurus may approach an election tribunal seeking to nullify an election that produces a female candidate as the winner.

Finally, considering the above points, the two statements become:

he or she has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the elections in at least two-thirds of the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by nnachukz(m): 10:09pm On Mar 26, 2023
Ddeliverer007:
Statement A:
he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.


Statement B:
he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

Herein lies the answer you seek.

God bless Nigeria.
In the first statement, (a) one-quarter is required from all the states including FCT Abuja but FCT Abuja not singled out and so not compulsory.
In the second statement (b). One-quarter requirement from FCT is compulsory because of the use of each and and in that statement.

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Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by Caleb15(m): 10:58pm On Mar 26, 2023
English no be your mate, even the O.P don confuse
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by Ddeliverer007(m): 11:01pm On Mar 26, 2023
Caleb15:
English no be your mate, even the O.P don confuse

How you take know? Lol. grin grin grin

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Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by Caleb15(m): 11:04pm On Mar 26, 2023
Ddeliverer007:

How you take know? Lol. grin grin grin
Because you don't take prisoners, lol
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by Nobody: 6:29am On Mar 27, 2023
GuyWise101:

Nna mehnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Beebah who did you vote for in the last election, let me see how I can help

Can u assist me too pls? Thanks
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by pquaver(m): 7:09am On Mar 27, 2023
Ddeliverer007:


No, they don’t.

Yes the do
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by pquaver(m): 7:15am On Mar 27, 2023
Ddeliverer007:


Obviously, does that eachof alter the meaning of the sentence?

No it does not.. Because it is kinda totology.. In. The first sente the amount of state let say 3 are still each.. Lagos is different from kano and kaduna and FcT..
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by udemzyudex(m): 7:16am On Mar 27, 2023
So nobody don win op?
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by pquaver(m): 7:30am On Mar 27, 2023
ganisucks:

They don't mean the same thing.


The first is 25% in all 25 states combined together.

The second is 25 % in 24 states, state by state(individualistic), and the FCT.

It is the same thing oga... Because individually
25% of A + 25 of B +25 of C= 25% of (A+B+C)

The each has no effect if the sum total is the same.. The most important is understanding if the and is for summation or a stand alone.. But going by the constitution and it use of 36 state and FCT.. It shows that in is inclusive.. Eg States and capital.. Abia to Zamfara +Fct abuja.. So fct has always been inclusive to state even in allocation and everything the constitution says.. So going also by Nigerian colloquial use.. Bread and Butter, peter and paul, taye and kehinde, Rice and beans.. It has always depicted inclusion.. Apples and oranges =apples +oranges.
Typical example if i tell you give me 5 plates of Rice and Beans.. What will dish me..? You wouldn't dish me 5 plates of Rice and 5 plates of beans separately rathet you will dish me 5 plates of a mixture of rice and beans isn't it.. So i hope you understand it now..
Re: 20k for the first person to tell me the difference between these two statements by JoyousFurnitire(m): 10:24am On Mar 27, 2023
Beebah321:
If you wan do giveaway, do am. No come here dey ask us yeye questions.

As per who go bless you no go stressful grin

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