Gerrard59:


Isn't it better to send one's children to a relatively good school in Nigeria and top it off with private tutoring than send to an American public high school (except the elite ones)?

1stGenAmerican:


There are literally thousands of good public schools in America and while I’m sure Nigeria has good schools, why would parents living in America send their children back to Nigeria to attend elementary, middle, and high school?

[/quote]Let me clarify— my previous reply was taken out of context. Sukkot said salaries in America were drained by bills, taxes, and school fees to which I replied that there are no school fees because all children can attend public schools for free. Then of course to deflect, the goalposts were moved to something else about schools.

Gerrard59:


Agreed.

Let me clarify— my previous reply was taken out of context. Sukkot said salaries in America were drained by bills, taxes, and school fees to which I replied that there are no school fees because all children can attend public schools for free. Then of course to deflect, the goalposts were moved to something else about schools.

He is used to it. No be today.

1stGenAmerican:


Don’t you love way they try counting everyone’s pockets and calculating their ‘bills’, making it seem like everyone stays with nothing after all is paid? They throw $10/hr around like an insult when the teenagers working part time in the grocery stores make more than that.

sukkot:
this woman you get liver oooo. So you would send your children to public school in America and allow them to eat public school food ? Public school na gang bsnging territory be dat oooo. My calculation on spending his salary was based on private school. No caring responsible parent should send their children to American public school

Asour:



I totally believe your story HOWEVER, always balance a bad story with a good one — BECAUSE good ones abound too.

Otherwise you're just selectively taking single anecdotes and stretching their larger implications.

1stGenAmerican:


In my opinion, no. Just as there are mediocre American public schools, there are literally thousands of high performing public and charter schools in America and while I’m sure Nigeria has good schools, why would parents living in America send their children back to Nigeria to attend elementary, middle, and high school?

sukkot:
brother, even medical doctors are not well paid in the UK talk less of security. Let me break it down for you. They pay about 15 pounds per hour if you are in London and cheaper outside. Let's say you can do 60 hours a week that is 900 pounds a week or let's say 3600 a month . It appeArs like a lot if you convert to naira. But you live in London and don't spend naira. Ok so you are at a higher tax bracket which is 40 percent so you take home like 2700 a month. It's London so your rent is like say 1000 if say you are single and no family and managing a small one bedroom. So that 1700 left. Council tax is like 150. You left with 1550. Let's say your utilities 300 a month you have 1250. Transport lets say 200. That's 1050. Phone and internet lets say 100. That's 950. Feeding let's say 400. That's 550 left. Clothing and haircut and miscellaneous like eating out and sending to naija etc and buying naija foods let's say like 300 a month. You have 250 left. Young guy you want trip woman to movies or go pub to drink pints of beer etc let's say 200 a month. You have 50 pounds left. Now this is calculation for single man. If you have wife and children may GOD help you is your cAse lol

just checked the hourly rate in london. its 12 not 15. so i was being generous

Rilwayne001:


Most registered company don’t pay tax here, except for the big companies.

And nobody will hold you if you don’t declare your company tax return here.

In the UK, even if you don’t make a dime from the company in a year, you still have to declare tax return. Other you get penalties that’d warrant you to pay fines.

In Nigeria, I’ve never seen self employed people declaring tax returns. Over there, in so far you’re not working in a company where tax is being deducted, you have to declare your tax return year in year out, otherwise, you pay fines.

You only are exempted from paying tax if you’re making anything less that £12k in a year. And £12k cannot even be enough for the bills you’d pay through the year.

I repeat, we don’t pay tax at all here if you know how the tax system works in the UK.

1Sharon:


Their stories are truly intriguing. This japa movement has really ruined relationships between Nigerians. Couples breaking up, thinking they can do better than each other, friends becoming enemies. I just listen to them and see how unreasonable and paranoid Nigerians can be.

They don't let people in on their plans because they fear evil eye. But if you don't trust friends, why have them around you and then turn around to expect well wishes?

People who were comfortable in Nigeria with multiple houses and cars, got rid of it all, just for greed.
As the saying goes if it ain't broke don't fix it.

But then what happened with Yul Edochie's son made me rethink a little. The rich in Nigeria still feel insecurity. If Yul's son was in a developed country, a seizure won't have killed him.

sukkot:
I was watching this video on YouTube. I will link the video. This girl wAs narrating all the cost it took for her to get to the UK. To my surprise it was like 20 million naira. I just cannot imagine dropping 20 million naira just like that for something I cannot see I know I will have numerous stomach ulcers if I had to be parting with these huge sums of money and I am not getting something tangible in return like a house. If I give you 20 million I expect you to at least give me a small bungalow in return. But maybe I am just a cheAp guy . Lol. How do you guys do it ?

Bro obadiah777 are you back in Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x95oqGzG55U

SIRTee15:

U are very ignorant of the country u live. U said self employed don't pay tax. Go to alaba or Ladipi market n see how Lagos state govt tax the hell out of those traders. From omo online, to touts, to local govt council. Yet Lagos state revenue office will still come n collect their own. I've not mentioned hotels, restaurants, eateries, supermarkets etc ask them wetin dem eye dey see from tax revenue officials.
You guys paint a rosy picture of Nigeria to deluded Nigerians living abroad. That's why a lot of them that return home eventually run back after seeing reality.

sukkot:
in fact you have said it all. Nothing more to add . Voluntary pillaging and voluntary enslavement. You pillage yourself and go give the bounty to the white man and then render your services to literarily wipe his yansh for cheap money ? No be juju be dat ? You have been enslaved and pillaged but you did it yourself. Most of these people get carried away by the pound strength but they don't know what you pay for rent per month over there is what we pay for the whole year. So whatever you make there it stays there. Bills . Unless you just are into crime then you can make money there. But if you are not into crime in the UK ? Forget that thing oooo. After working for 30 years you will look at your bank account and see just 1000 pounds saving

NOT SUPPORTING CRIME OOO

vickydevoka:

More than currently with a family. More bros don spend pass23 million

studyless123:


I agree with you. There's dignity in labor and no one should be undignified as a result of menial jobs.
However that report is an outliner. Besides 100k earnings is worth about 35k in NY when adjusted for cost of living. These are important considerations when dishing out figures.

sukkot:
brother, even medical doctors are not well paid in the UK talk less of security. Let me break it down for you. They pay about 15 pounds per hour if you are in London and cheaper outside. Let's say you can do 60 hours a week that is 900 pounds a week or let's say 3600 a month . It appeArs like a lot if you convert to naira. But you live in London and don't spend naira. Ok so you are at a higher tax bracket which is 40 percent so you take home like 2700 a month. It's London so your rent is like say 1000 if say you are single and no family and managing a small one bedroom. So that 1700 left. Council tax is like 150. You left with 1550. Let's say your utilities 300 a month you have 1250. Transport lets say 200. That's 1050. Phone and internet lets say 100. That's 950. Feeding let's say 400. That's 550 left. Clothing and haircut and miscellaneous like eating out and sending to naija etc and buying naija foods let's say like 300 a month. You have 250 left. Young guy you want trip woman to movies or go pub to drink pints of beer etc let's say 200 a month. You have 50 pounds left. Now this is calculation for single man. If you have wife and children may GOD help you is your cAse lol

just checked the hourly rate in london. its 12 not 15. so i was being generous

Rilwayne001:


Council tax, market levy is different from personal income tax.

I’ll not sit down here and argue with you.

Have a great day.

AirBay:
What a thread!!!

A person who fails to Plan will surely end in the ditch.... if you japa without any solid plan, you will cry.... if you're in Nigeria without a plan, you go fail.

Omoa1:
Guy this post just shows u no know as e dey go kankan. I'm sure u got most of Ur info from unreliable sources. How can u say nurses get £12. I'll advice u get Ur story right and stop confusing people. To be frank, Japa is good if u can stomach it. Consider benefits of health u don't pay for, no police harassment or herdmen wahala just to mention a few. If you don't work, u no go chop and that's just it. Make person wey never cross border dey tell us what is not abeg

SIRTee15:


U don't know anything about doctor's salary in the UK. Some of my colleagues paid corporate tax of 50k to HMRC working as a GP. And if u know anything about company tax, what he paid wasn't 18 % of his company income.
New generation of wealthy migrants are emerging in the UK, it's not what u left behind when most naija migrants were illegals or low skilled hustlers.
The average price in my estate is around 400k yet we keep seeing more blacks everyday at the bus stop in the estate.
Nigerians are following the Asian route of self independence rather than the 9 to 5 job synonymous with Nigerians in the past.
My aunt has 4 nurseries in London and she's yet to stop. Her friend has a care home in London while another of my colleagues own one here in Midlands.
We now actively encourage solid middle class amongst us to buy 2nd or 3rd house in the UK rather than building in naija. Virtually all my friends have kids attending private primary schools, it's the in thing if u can afford it.
Give it 10 years, we will change the financial demography of blacks in the UK.
U guys that came in 20 years ago did a terrible job in attaining financial freedom, u guys were probably carried away by the good roads, 24 hrs light or maybe the women; while the Asians silently took over. Now compare achievement within the Asian and black community.
An Asian friend of mine has 7 care homes in the UK. Tell me how his generation will suffer in this UK.

It's not all your sob or regret story. Recent migrants has will have their own challenge no doubt.
Overall, UK is not for the weak. U have to be hardworking and smart, but it's rewarding if u know what u doing.
One of my church members who is a carer and hubby a security guard both build 4 houses, an event centre and a hotel in Ibadan area within 10 yrs of coming to uk. The man now spend more time on naija while the wife is still here. Now tell me how they will regret relocating to the UK.

cococandy:


Oh please 🙄 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

1stGenAmerican:


I’m starting to recognize his game. The constant energy spent advocating against life in other countries is very odd.

1stGenAmerican:


In my opinion, no. Just as there are mediocre American public schools, there are literally thousands of high performing public and charter schools in America and while I’m sure Nigeria has good schools, why would parents living in America send their children back to Nigeria to attend elementary, middle, and high school?
Let me clarify— my previous reply was taken out of context. Sukkot said salaries in America were drained by bills, taxes, and school fees to which I replied that there are no school fees because all children can attend public schools for free. Then of course to deflect, the goalposts were moved to something else about schools.

Gerrard59:


It must really be tough for recent black African migrants trying to raise children in the UK.

I don't envy them sha.

armyofone:


Sukkot, Sukkot, Sukkot, how many times did i call you

1stGenAmerican:


Some Nigerians are too hung up on a title and look down on what they call ‘menial jobs’—pride has no value when pockets are empty.There’s dignity in labor. You mentioned a cleaner—do you know any bank managers in Nigeria that’ll ever earn in 20 years what these NYC garbage collectors earned in one year? Some of these guys earned $300,000 in one year doing a ‘menial job’ that many of you guys would consider beneath you. Even their average salaries pay more than some desk jobs.




94 NYC Garbage Collectors Earn $300,000 Each In 2021, Net $100,000 In OT Pay

By Dane Enerio

Around 94 employees of New York's Department of Sanitation earned more than $100,000 in overtime pay last year
The total overtime pay for the department jumped from $151 million in 2020 to $283 million last year
The increase was attributed to staff shortages, delays in hiring replacements and heavy snowfall last year
Job seekers in New York may want to start considering applying for the city's Department of Sanitation (DSNY) after it was revealed that nearly 100 of the department's garbage collectors and supervisors netted six-digit overtime pays last year, pushing some annual salaries close to $300,000, according to payroll records.

Around 94 DSNY employees earned more than $100,00 in overtime pay last year, compared to the two sanitation workers who received six figures during the fiscal year 2020 and the zero workers in the year before that, The New York Post reported.

SIRTee15:


U don't know anything about doctor's salary in the UK. Some of my colleagues paid corporate tax of 50k to HMRC working as a GP. And if u know anything about company tax, what he paid wasn't 18 % of his company income.
New generation of wealthy migrants are emerging in the UK, it's not what u left behind when most naija migrants were illegals or low skilled hustlers.
The average price in my estate is around 400k yet we keep seeing more blacks everyday at the bus stop in the estate.
Nigerians are following the Asian route of self independence rather than the 9 to 5 job synonymous with Nigerians in the past.
My aunt has 4 nurseries in London and she's yet to stop. Her friend has a care home in London while another of my colleagues own one here in Midlands.
We now actively encourage solid middle class amongst us to buy 2nd or 3rd house in the UK rather than building in naija. Virtually all my friends have kids attending private primary schools, it's the in thing if u can afford it.
Give it 10 years, we will change the financial demography of blacks in the UK.
U guys that came in 20 years ago did a terrible job in attaining financial freedom, u guys were probably carried away by the good roads, 24 hrs light or maybe the women; while the Asians silently took over. Now compare achievement within the Asian and black community.
An Asian friend of mine has 7 care homes in the UK. Tell me how his generation will suffer in this UK.

It's not all your sob or regret story. Recent migrants has will have their own challenge no doubt.
Overall, UK is not for the weak. U have to be hardworking and smart, but it's rewarding if u know what u doing.
One of my church members who is a carer and hubby a security guard both build 4 houses, an event centre and a hotel in Ibadan area within 10 yrs of coming to uk. The man now spend more time on naija while the wife is still here. Now tell me how they will regret relocating to the UK.