kushe:


My answer to all you have said is money doesn't save anyone from an inferiority complex.
Go to Peru,Argentina,Spain and see how the upper class in supposed not so developed countries think and behave.
We live and think abroad and never ever get integrated into our adopted societies.
No matter how much money you get for naija,in one central park west building you would become irrelevant with several occupants having either more money or clout than you.
Nigerians don't understand the culture abroad,they just think they do.

1) My answer to all you have said is money doesn't save anyone from an inferiority complex.

2) Go to Peru,Argentina,Spain and see how the upper class in supposed not so developed countries think and behave.

3) We live and think abroad and never ever get integrated into our adopted societies.

4) No matter how much money you get for naija,in one central park west building you would become irrelevant with several occupants having either more money or clout than you.

5) Nigerians don't understand the culture abroad,they just think they do.

Nefort:

All those things you mentioned are in Nigeria. There are some fantastic hospitals, secured locations, and good schools in Nigeria. [b]But some people are just greedy [/b]to want what they feel is better outside Nigeria.

Quintopia:


What other insecurity is worse than gun violence?

America is the land of gun violence, and fleeing Nigeria on the basis of insecurity, to go and live in America, is supremely dumb.

VTJN:
how is JAPA good for someone who got scholarship? Will such person get a job after study or the scholarship automatically guarantee him/her job after school?

Skyfornia:
It is not all about money..some other things to consider are access to good medical care, safety, conducive environment, standard education for kids..etc

Abi1985:
If you have business thriving in Nigeria, please don't japa. If you are rich, please don't japa. The only exception is to further your education or you have businesses oversea that you are managing or you planning to born your children overseas for citizenship purpose. Please Just come and visit. Enjoy your holiday and come back to Nigeria. I was reading a post on Instagram on someone in Nigeria with thriving business making some serious money and she was thinking of relocating to Canada. Please do yourself a favor and stay home.
Escaping from political enemies or enemies or insecurity doesn't count.

IbeOkehie:


It's always interesting to me to read views like yours. It's actually what brought me to Nairaland.



*Well, my Igbo people say there's no need to argue about wrestling prowess when there's plenty of ground available for a match. My reposte is simple - if Nigerians living in Nigeria believe they're equal or better than Anglo-Western peoples or their governments, prove it by building countries so good that few Nigerians will ever think of migrating out. It's a very simple thing.

And no Nigerian or Black African Christian or Muslim should be saying ANYTHING about inferiority complex. Really, do you guys have any self awareness at all?



Hmmm, Argentina I know a bit about their economy. They're bankrupt and inflation there is running at over 100%. In general, they have a government with a radical socialist ideology, similar to Nigeria's APC. Go read the news for yourself. There's also a growing wave of migration from Argentina to Spain and Europe in general. Here's a sample -

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentinas-economy-teeters-edge-deeper-crisis-market-anxiety-grows-2023-04-21/
https://www.google.com/search?q=argentina+economic+problems&rlz=1C1NDCM_enUS837US837&oq=argentina+economic+problems&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l9.5150j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&bshm=nce/1



Every single large immigrant community goes through this stage. That's why insular ethnic neighborhoods exist in major USA cities, such as Little Italy and Chinatowns. The later born-in-USA generations eventually mix in with the rest of mainstream America. Nothing new. It's a sacrifice made for the prosperity of their progeny.



I lived in Nigeria as a fairly well to do person. Do you mean achieving celebrity status or something? Because lots of well to do people I know in Nigeria earning hundreds of thousands of dollars per year were pretty much as irrelevant unless they're in politics or something like that.

As for the bit about living in a building, anyone can own land in the USA but NOBODY can ever own land in Nigeria - that the LAW, your Governor has the power to take over your building at ANY TIME. So much for 1st class citizenship.



This culture thing always makes me laugh. Next they will say you can't eat good Nigerian food in USA.

I've lived in the USA for over 30 years so speaking for myself, I understand the culture very well, at least here in North Carolina. Anyone else here for even 10 years will get the essentials of it - work hard, obey the law, be friendly and helpful in the community, invest for the future of your family if you want to have one. What else is there? And I know Nigerian culture very well too, so I think I'm in a good position to know which one works well for me....and for most people like me.

Sincerely wishing you all the best of Good Luck.

Now this ones deserve honorable mention







What else is there to say? Nigerians....Nigerians.....NIGERIANS!!!!!

Good Luck to you all, WHEREVER you are!!!

Have you ever been asked where you are from despite your sojourn of 3 decades.
U will forever be one of us,whether you like it or not.

kushe:


Have you ever been asked where you are from despite your sojourn of 3 decades.
U will forever be one of us,whether you like it or not.

Bouncingbabyboy:
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you have been lied to!! In Nigeria with your money doctor will come to your house and treat you .... for the west nothing like that!!! No good food, LGBT propaganda in nursery schools left and right health care in Canada no get quality oo

Skyfornia:
It is not all about money..some other things to consider are access to good medical care, safety, conducive environment, standard education for kids..etc

DMerciful:
Why do you feel America is the only place abroad? He you heard of Canada, Australia,
Switzerland, Germany, Russia, Belgium, Italy

Skyfornia:
It is not all about money..some other things to consider are access to good medical care, safety, conducive environment, standard education for kids..etc

MeineMutter:


Europe is better than the US and Canada, combined but European countries only do not have the kind of money the US and Canada have.

babakb:


Last month alone over 200 people were killed in Plateau and Sokoto States, did you hear anything like that in the UK, Canada, Germany, Norway, Ireland, Switzerland, Sweden, Portugal, Netherlands e.t.c

babakb:


For real You want to list societal problems! Let's start, in Nigeria we have:
Baby Factories, Blood Money Rituals, Internet Fraud, Kidnappings, Banditry, Jungle Justice, Bribery & Corruption etc.

MeineMutter:


Don’t mind the wheyrhey. He thinks America is a country. It’s just a gangster street. He should come and taste life in Europe. At leas, I have lived in Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Austria and visited the US. US na trash.

Abi1985:


Nigeria has all of the above if you get money

IbeOkehie:


There was a major story done by the US Newsweek magazine on Dora Akunyili during her time as Director of NAFDAC. One of her deputy directors who was interviewed in that story just retired and moved to the United States two weeks ago and was introduced in church, live. I will not mention the name, but if you can find the Newsweek story online you can make your guess.

I know a full Colonel of the Nigerian Army who retired and lives here now. I know a major property owner in Lagos who not only moved here a few years ago but brought his married children and their spouses and grandkids with him. One of my secondary school classmates was the son of a CBN governor, his father lives here with us. I attended school with children of the elites in Nigeria, most of my classmates do NOT live in Nigeria.

I know at least 3 oil & gas drilling engineers who earned over $1K per day in Nigeria who have left the country and moved to Canada, UK and USA. As in, I've seen their paychecks. These are people who are likely worth millions of dollars.

Former President Buhari, probably one of the richest and most powerful men in Nigeria, has along with his family lived most of their lives abroad in UK and Spain. Even as military President back in 1984 when he was preaching to Nigerians not to migrate, all his family including the toddlers were living abroad. I bet you he will also spend most of his retirement abroad.

By the way, where do you think TY Danjuma lives? And his children? Wanna guess?

It was in the news last year that Aliko Dangote moved his liquid investment capital to the USA. I won't be surprised if he migrates too.

And YOU know better than all these people?



OK, we appreciate the cogent advice. You've done well, we know you only want the best for your fellow Nigerians 😉

Thanks indeed.

kushe:
There is nothing you can tell all these "I want to japaa " people that they will hear. Their default setting is the grass is greener on the other side till they actually get to the other side.
London,Sydney, Singapore,Dubai are beautiful places to visit,I don't know about to live,but they are what they are because sensible people over time curated what we now admire in those cities.
If I can make the part of Lagos I live more beautiful, I would have achieved something for humanity. Why would I want to live abroad ?

Abi1985:
If you have business thriving in Nigeria, please don't japa. If you are rich, please don't japa. The only exception is to further your education or you have businesses oversea that you are managing or you planning to born your children overseas for citizenship purpose. Please Just come and visit. Enjoy your holiday and come back to Nigeria. I was reading a post on Instagram on someone in Nigeria with thriving business making some serious money and she was thinking of relocating to Canada. Please do yourself a favor and stay home.
Escaping from political enemies or enemies or insecurity doesn't count.

IbeOkehie:


Are you sure? The most practical measure would be migration patterns. I'm going to look up the data.

https://mises.org/wire/3-times-many-europeans-move-us-other-way-around

In my own limited personal data set, I know at least 12 Africans who've migrated to the USA from UK, Italy, France and Germany.

I only know 3 Africans who left the USA. Two to Canada and one to UK. The 2 in Canada returned after about 5 years.

So what's YOUR basis of measurement?

I just added a link with plausibly good stats. It looks like Europeans love migrating to the USA

babakb:


For real You want to list societal problems! Let's start, in Nigeria we have:
Baby Factories, Blood Money Rituals, Internet Fraud, Kidnappings, Banditry, Jungle Justice, Bribery & Corruption etc.

Reference:
Some people just cannot stand the day to day corruption living in Nigeria exposes one to.

AirBay:


Keep enjoying mate until 9ja happens to you then you will realise... remember the doctor girl that was shot in the train....she was enjoying as well.

People mention USA when it's comes to shooting but they forget you have a 50% chance of survival when you're shot in the USA. In canada, your bills will be paid by the govt or paid by insurance, plus you will keep receiving money from Employment insurance till you're fit to work if not you keep receiving benefits forever. If you're shot in Nigeria, you will bleed to death in the scorching sun, if you're taken to the hospital, they will request for police report and before that arrives, you must surely have joined the angels, if you're lucky to survive but not 100% fit, you will be a beggar for the rest of your life.. you may as well commit suicide along the way.

Goodluck

I wish 9ja could be better.. so painful.

Skyfornia:
It is not all about money..some other things to consider are access to good medical care, safety, conducive environment, standard education for kids..etc

Quintopia:


But you would rush off to America that was built on slavery, mass murder, and invasions of 120+ nations to steal their resources.

Self-hating ASSHOLE.

Bouncingbabyboy:
v



you have been lied to!! In Nigeria with your money doctor will come to your house and treat you .... for the west nothing like that!!! No good food, LGBT propaganda in nursery schools left and right health care in Canada no get quality oo

MeineMutter:


Don’t mind the wheyrhey. He thinks America is a country. It’s just a gangster street. He should come and taste life in Europe. At leas, I have lived in Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Austria and visited the US. US na trash.

doneback04:



Am exempted bro, none of this can happen to me because am serving a living God, it can only happens to those who doesn't know where they belong in Christ,
the problem with people like you your brain at some point feel like nothing good can come out of Nigeria that why you tend to japa,
but you forgot that there are several people in this Nigerian that is succeeding and doing extremely well in their endeavors.
you just have to change your perspective about Nigeria and start see good inside of it,
there is a word that whatever you don't accept in your mind would not accept you
I have always seen Nigeria as a nation where my name and business will flourish and GOD has been doing it for me as we speak.

mmsen:


What happens to those same people when things go wrong for them abroad?

You people think "abroad" is paradise. You haven't seen anything yet.