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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by seunny4lif(m): 7:57pm On Jun 24, 2023
OriOko88:
undecided
Russia is too big abeg. Thats why putin is struggling to win the war. He should release d Ukrainian territories to Ukraine and de escalate d war before the d wagner annex Rostov on don. If not many regions will also form coup and further disintegration of russia will continue,which putin will struggle to gain control because of the vast land mass.

I even read Alaska in USA was former Russia land and was sold to d USA. Haha shocked
I don’t think you understand why Wager boss went against MOD.
Wager boss want Putin to declare war on Ukraine but Russia COS and Min of def convinced Putin to keep it as SMO.

He want to keep control of his private militias but the Russia def min and Russia chief of staff want Wager to be controlled by Russia MOD.

I’m sure after this mess, there will be massive clean up of oligarchs in Russia by Putin, as this show he gave too much power to wager boss and Putin will disarm Chechen forces before it’s too late.

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 7:58pm On Jun 24, 2023
thatigboman:
was KGB (abi FSB by their new name) sleeping when the transaction was taking place?
Can't you see the politics. It's just sense that they must avoid bloodshed. What West media won't tell you that progozin met deputy defence minister in Rostov, they even talk. Did you see them facing each other?
Surovikin the general Armageddon is in Rostov. You can reason what's man
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by ruggedtimi(m): 7:59pm On Jun 24, 2023
Badassniggga:
doesn't matter..

Fact is if Russia lights up a nuke on Ukraine no one in NATO will do anything other than slam sanctions and make noise in their media. But for NATO to send nukes to Russia on behalf of Ukraine is what no one in NATO would ever have the balls to do... Why? Russia's over 50 nuke-armed submarines are quietly patrolling the waters of NATO as well waiting for order to unleash hell for anyone that dares nukes Russia as well. Russia can/will nuke Ukraine without getting nuked I. Return by NATO. No one in NATO will be willing to risk their beautiful cities or go on a suicidal mission for the sake of Ukraine. End 🔚
una funny oh...so Russia can drop nukes on Ukraine and u.s/nato can't drop nukes or retailate.. And u.s/nato doesn't have submarine around international waters. Ordinary Wagner Putin move. Omo abeg we should stop the Russia hype. Na nukes else nothing Russia get. We have no idea how advance the u.s weapons keep getting.

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Chetas81(m): 7:59pm On Jun 24, 2023
The prediction is already there that inner enemies will killed Putin 😜✍️
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Creeper: 8:01pm On Jun 24, 2023
kay29000:


Can you please speak more on the bolded.

Wagner forces that were allowed to cross the border into Rostov weren’t more than 5000 troops. And they were allowed to move around by Russian regulars without violence. So, you have to be braindead to think a real coup is going to happen with that amount of troops that has no air cover. Regular Russian forces would wipe them out within a day without even trying too hard if it were real.

BTW, Moscow is about 700miles away from Rostov. A real coup would start in Moscow and Putin would’ve been assassinated or arrested before the media knows what’s going on. Moscow is a city of bunkers and for a successful coup to happen - cutting the head of the snake is the first step hence all coup attempts since Soviet times failed.

Anyway, I think both Putin and Prigozhin are playing chess to see who the 5th columnists are hence a lot of commanders quickly pledged allegiance to Putin. And the SMO is about to enter the next phase where Putin might have to get rid of some people who have been complicating things because they’re a tad compromised. Russia is a complex country.

Putin just signed a new decree that will enable more recruitment into Wagner from prisons (people serving time for minor crimes are being released). And there’s going to be mobilisation soon. Shiogu and Geramisov are most likely going to get removed as well.

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by MSGAMBLE9: 8:02pm On Jun 24, 2023
greggng:



Let me ask you one question
..is it possible for Russia to nuke Ukraine without being nuked ? All nato nukes are facing Russia as we speak right now . Any mis calculation from them , they will taste the bitterness of there medicine . Russia is not as powerful as some people think . Yes they use to be when many countries were still under them ...Right now if carre is not taken putin will receive gadaffi or sadam treatment....let nobody blame nato when it happens
Do you think if Russia nuke Ukraine now, the West would risk it security by nuking Moscow in return ( why do you think Poland and Eastern nations block hate Germany and France)...When their mutual destructions is assured, It will be all man for himself...


Stop consuming Western propaganda, the same people that abandoned Afghans at clear sight of Taliban surrounding Kabul..


Then you know nothing...

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by afroxyz: 8:03pm On Jun 24, 2023
viodemus:
Is easy to see that, coexistence will be hard. Trust has been broken. Wagner will not give up those airfields they captured. It is a matter of time now before things escalate. Prigozhin will not want to take orders of summoning him to Moscow;



Soon, wagner will reason that it makes sense to carve out their own area, bigger than Nigeria. They already control an area like that.

Russian defense minister and his people, and Russian intelligence people will soon start questioning Putin stance with them, and might want to remove him. Afterall, putin did it to his predecessor. Meanwhile, wagner boss, might decide that he can't trust any of them from putin down.

CIA, and their friendly counterparts, cannot believe these minute by minute improvements. What Russia wished for America during trump era, is what is happening in Russia today.


There is underground whispers that the chinese are ready to fight with Russian army against wagner. After much much, chinese might decide to expand territory from Russian lands.

Yawa dun ghas for Lossia. Chai. see life. Stay humble. Anything can happen.



Arm chair theories

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Badassniggga(m): 8:03pm On Jun 24, 2023
ruggedtimi:
una funny oh...so Russia can drop nukes on Ukraine and u.s/nato can't drop nukes or retailate.. And u.s/nato doesn't have submarine around international waters. Ordinary Wagner Putin move. Omo abeg we should stop the Russia hype. Na nukes else nothing Russia get. We have no idea how advance the u.s weapons keep getting.
Oga, anyday US or anyone in NATO has agreed to see their citizens die painfully like in Hiroshima and Nagasaki during WW2 and see their beautiful cities blown up to shyte by nukes, then they can send nukes to Russia on behalf of Ukraine. The reason why US and NATO will never have the balls to retaliate by launching nukes on Russia on behalf of Ukraine is because Russia nuking Ukraine is not anyone's concern and not in NATO territory either.

I no fit shout abeg.

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Aboki99(m): 8:03pm On Jun 24, 2023
Machinegun91:
Let everywhere burst. Enough of Putin putting us under pressure

You are a Western lackey.

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by afroxyz: 8:05pm On Jun 24, 2023
ruggedtimi:
una funny oh...so Russia can drop nukes on Ukraine and u.s/nato can't drop nukes or retailate.. And u.s/nato doesn't have submarine around international waters. Ordinary Wagner Putin move. Omo abeg we should stop the Russia hype. Na nukes else nothing Russia get. We have no idea how advance the u.s weapons keep getting.

Stop watching CNN, it would help you develop critical thinking

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Nobody: 8:08pm On Jun 24, 2023
Machinegun91:
Let everywhere burst. Enough of Putin putting us under pressure

Be careful what you wish for
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Princedapace(m): 8:08pm On Jun 24, 2023
psychologist:
What he did is treasonable felony

Can he be pardoned
Never! @least not by Putin.

Meanwhile that was a real scare to russia and Putin.

It wasnt much of scare but Putin and lovers of Russia wouldnt want a war within Russia, destroying Russian cities. He is a private military company owner and doesnt have weapons as Russian military, but escalating such situation would lead to embarrassments that would lead to bumbings and stuff like that in the soil of Russia.
Putin made mistake trusting him shaa. That is why I dont trust anyone born of human on earth.

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by ruggedtimi(m): 8:09pm On Jun 24, 2023
Badassniggga:
Oga, anyday US or anyone in NATO has agreed to see their citizens die painfully like in Hiroshima and Nagasaki during WW2 and see their beautiful cities blown up to shyte by nukes, then they can send nukes to Russia on behalf of Ukraine.

I no fit shout abeg.
so Russia no go scatter because is an anti nuke country. U.s got nukes same as Russia, china, u.k, France....etc it will take abut 10 nukes to destroy the major cities of Russia and u s respectfully. Then you go know.

U s have the strongest military in the world. U can beat that

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Kaido: 8:10pm On Jun 24, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
Is the below real or fake?
Is that Telegram?
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Prenonjebose: 8:11pm On Jun 24, 2023
Badassniggga:
doesn't matter..

Fact is if Russia lights up a nuke on Ukraine no one in NATO will do anything other than slam sanctions and make noise in their media. But for NATO to send nukes to Russia on behalf of Ukraine is what no one in NATO would ever have the balls to do... Why? Russia's over 50 nuke-armed submarines are quietly patrolling the waters of NATO as well waiting for order to unleash hell on anyone that dares nukes Russia. Russia can/will nuke Ukraine without getting nuked in Return by NATO. Russia has over 3000 nukes in their inventory, that's a huuuuge deterrent against anyone. No one in NATO will be willing to risk their beautiful cities or go on a suicidal mission for the sake of Ukraine. End 🔚
And Russia does not have beautiful cities that Russians love and adore. Of course, Putin does not care what happens to his beautiful homeland with thousands of years of historical importance. Of course, he nukes Ukraine, with it's fallout extending beyond Ukrainian territory, and all that will happen is sanction against him!!! Then, he should have done that long ago, after all what is sanction.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by ruggedtimi(m): 8:11pm On Jun 24, 2023
afroxyz:


Stop watching CNN, it would help you develop critical thinking
haha I dont watch CNN...no be today I dey follow up international news. I ain't no newbie. I don't rely on mainstream netwrk for informations.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by seunny4lif(m): 8:12pm On Jun 24, 2023
smallrincowis16:

Can't you see the politics. It's just sense that they must avoid bloodshed. What West media won't tell you that progozin met deputy defence minister in Rostov, they even talk. Did you see them facing each other?
Surovikin the general Armageddon is in Rostov. You can reason what's man
Prigozhin wishes Surovikin is the Chief of staff.
The whole thing is about who is closer to Putin matter.

USA have many private militias but they are all controlled by CIA agents and USA never gave them, the power Putin gave Wager boss because Prigozhin was one of Putin’s best friends.

For the past 6 months, Prigozhin have been fighting against the Russia MOD while Putin just kept silent.

Its Prigozhin vs MOD leads by Russia def minister and Russia chief of staff.
China and all other countries will learn from this experience, that never allow to private military contractors to have access to President.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 8:14pm On Jun 24, 2023
ruggedtimi:
una funny oh...so Russia can drop nukes on Ukraine and u.s/nato can't drop nukes or retailate.. And u.s/nato doesn't have submarine around international waters. Ordinary Wagner Putin move. Omo abeg we should stop the Russia hype. Na nukes else nothing Russia get. We have no idea how advance the u.s weapons keep getting.

Louder please!

They will be over hyping the shithole that is struggling with Russia! Only Wagner almost brought Russia to its knees that Putin had to flee.

Same Russia they believe will defeat NATO 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by jubrilELsudan: 8:16pm On Jun 24, 2023
WHAT AN ODE THIS WAGNER IS

PUTIN WILL STILL KILL HIM

Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by OldBeer: 8:16pm On Jun 24, 2023
SalamRushdie:
Enemies of Putin in sifia pain 😅😅😅

CIA scammed of 6.2 billion dollars by Wagner
Money don loss. grin

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by viodemus: 8:17pm On Jun 24, 2023
afroxyz:


Arm chair theories


to a bench stool reader.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 8:19pm On Jun 24, 2023
FOJEM:
Putin don go beg quick quick!!! So dis coward Sabi the meaning of negotiations to de-escalate crisis!!!
Yeye man. You no Sabi activate your nuclear weapons again?
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


Don’t mind him!

Who could believe that Putin would Japa
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Reference(m): 8:22pm On Jun 24, 2023
He should abeg. The world cannot afford an unstable, collapsing Russia with all its dangerous armaments at stake.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by OMBIIGA: 8:23pm On Jun 24, 2023
In respective of the de-escalation truce, the Wagner Chief is a gonna!! The consequences of treason in mother Russia is dead.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Svoboda(m): 8:28pm On Jun 24, 2023
seunny4lif:

I don’t think you understand why Wager boss went against MOD.
Wager boss want Putin to declare war on Ukraine but Russia COS and Min of def convinced Putin to keep it as SMO.

He want to keep control of his private militias but the Russia def min and Russia chief of staff want Wager to be controlled by Russia MOD.

I’m sure after this mess, there will be massive clean up of oligarchs in Russia by Putin, as this show he gave too much power to wager boss and Putin will disarm Chechen forces before it’s too late.


Very true. Putin will finish off prygozhin to set an example to would be coup plotters the same way erdogan finished of gullen in 2016. No strong leader tolerates rebellion, not least from your friend.
Putin built wagner. He can dismantle it as well without prigozhin. Prigozhin could have poisoned him.

A grave mistake.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by greggng: 8:31pm On Jun 24, 2023
MSGAMBLE9:
Do you think if Russia nuke Ukraine now, the West would risk it security by nuking Moscow in return ( why do you think Poland and Eastern nations block hate Germany and France)...When their mutual destructions is assured, It will be all man for himself...


Stop consuming Western propaganda, the same people that abandoned Afghans at clear sight of Taliban surrounding Kabul..


Then you know nothing...

Stop using the word nuke .. No country will nuke another and others refuse to nuke the country. The reason why usa used atomic bomb in Japan was in retaliation of the one used by Japan..Get it right inside your head .Russia will be over if they nuke Ukraine...After the Japan and USA issue kindly mention any other country that nuked another and no retaliation ...granted they can use other military capabilities like missiles...but remove the word nuke ...nuclear weapon no be anybodies mate ..
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by stanluiz(m): 8:38pm On Jun 24, 2023
seunny4lif:

Prigozhin wishes Surovikin is the Chief of staff.
The whole thing is about who is closer to Putin matter.

USA have many private militias but they are all controlled by CIA agents and USA never gave them, the power Putin gave Wager boss because Prigozhin was one of Putin’s best friends.

For the past 6 months, Prigozhin have been fighting against the Russia MOD while Putin just kept silent.

Its Prigozhin vs MOD leads by Russia def minister and Russia chief of staff.
China and all other countries will learn from this experience, that never allow to private military contractors to have access to President.
You said it all!!!

PMC should be under the control of Defence ministry.

Given them direct access to the president will lead to insubordination. They will now begin to act like they are bigger than the military which is very bad. They will begin to do and undo.

They will be a divided loyalty in the military. If the fall out with the president or the Military, A military coups come In. They will try to prove that they are stronger.

I believe that Putin has learned a very big lesson.

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Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by Johnjustice: 8:39pm On Jun 24, 2023
Roots go deep, but Putin must choose the path of compromise, before he gets to the point of no return.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by olatade(m): 8:40pm On Jun 24, 2023
Sadly, we have to cheer for Putin in this conflict. The other guy is worse than him.
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by owagbeba: 8:41pm On Jun 24, 2023
HonNL:


SOURCE

For now, it is not clear on what the Wagner uprising and seizure of Rostov is all about? Prigozhin executing a coup d’etat?

Western pysops have clogged all available media with false narratives of today’s event.

It’s not clear to all but what I know is that if Prigozhin acting to usurp power by force with 25,000 wagnerites, will be swallowed whole without mercy.

What is clear for now is that on weekend, Wagner troops blockaded the area around southern military HQ.

This whole incident does not appear to be a Russian” Maskirovka” because on today’s national address, Putin appears vexed and vengeful. Comments from Medvedev and Kadyrov appear to support the fact that this was a serious matter

No matter what this whole incident was about, Prigozhin did cross a line; and he and his subordinates will pay a deadly price.

PMC Wagner is over

-Prigozhin will exile in Belarus
-Wagner will be under the control of Russian MOD
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by FuckTheMod: 8:42pm On Jun 24, 2023
Machinegun91:
Let everywhere burst. Enough of Putin putting us under pressure
Or
Deh
How's Putin putting you under pressure?
Re: Wagner Boss Prigozhin Agrees To De-escalate Revolt In Russia - Lukashenko by sangresan(m): 8:43pm On Jun 24, 2023
ruggedtimi:
una funny oh...so Russia can drop nukes on Ukraine and u.s/nato can't drop nukes or retailate.. And u.s/nato doesn't have submarine around international waters. Ordinary Wagner Putin move. Omo abeg we should stop the Russia hype. Na nukes else nothing Russia get. We have no idea how advance the u.s weapons keep getting.

So why did the U.S. and NATO run away from Afghanistan? You're talking like a primary school pupil.

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