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How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by wildwater: 9:44am On Oct 15, 2011 |
Interview translation of a Nigerian woman, living in Austria, about Nigeria: Guys and Girls, I translate this for morning laughter and annoyance all over your country: http://derstandard.at/1317019929226/Afrika-Wenn-Kinder-als-Hexen-verfolgt-werden#forumstart Title: When Children are persecuted as witches Joana Adesuwa Reiterer about rituals and witch villages and how she has been thrown out as a 16 year old girl Women and children are excluded, tortured and burned because people summon they are witches, only in Nigeria there live 5.000 girls and children in the streets banned and branded als witches, I just translate the part of it, because the Interview in German is very long, in one of Austria´s top newspapers. The girl is getting rich on telling stories, and Nigeria got perfect advertisment again for being a country of midages in Europe. Where the hell is your embassy? Those idiots do nothing but giving stupid interviews themselves with titles such as "Not all Nigerians are drug dealers", kick them out for doing nothing for your countries image here! |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by Nobody: 11:48am On Oct 15, 2011 |
@Wildwater, Are you saying these things do not happen or, at best, should be swept under the carpet? [img]http://images.derstandard.at/t/12/2011/10/11/1317075566238.jpg[/img] Joana Adesuwa Reiterer Austreibungsrituale about grotesque, witch villages and how they were violated as a 16-year-old-- cont/d http://derstandard.at/1317019929226/Afrika-Wenn-Kinder-als-Hexen-verfolgt-werden#forumstart Clearly we have a sister here who is not caught up in the paralysis of analysis, despite an ambivalent relationship with her homeland. Your headline, comrade, is misleading, as it clearly sets out to denigrate an individual forced into migration by some rather unsavoury circumstances. The question is why? |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by wildwater: 12:08pm On Oct 15, 2011 |
As far as I got to know Nigeria, it may happen in some low level educational part of the country, but not, as the article says, be "standard" in Nigeria. And as you say, you have a sister that has such an "ambivalent" relationship to her country, that she is not ashamed to ruin it´s reputation by talking rubbish like that. I have been to your country and I am married to a Nigerian, I never saw such things happening there on my trips or heared about it in those parts of your country I visited. P.S: Congratulations to your translation |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by Nobody: 12:39pm On Oct 15, 2011 |
wildwater: Congratulations for the translation goes to google@wildwater (the google chrome browser offers this option) Far from me to sweep matters which relate to the welfare of a certain section of society under the rug, simply because it is convenient or the easier thing to do. I take it you are of European origin and probably mean well, so please respect our right to have these difficult conversations without clamouring for a lower set of standards from the vantage point of an in-law An immoral father-in-law cannot advise his children well -- African saying Child Witches Of Nigeria - Nairaland www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-195344.0.html Akwa-ibom ‘child Witches’: More Knocks For Akpabio’s www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-616501.0.html Author Topic: Akwa Ibom State - Child Witches Story Revisited www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-330001.0.html Effects Of Christian Evangelism In Africa: More Child Witches www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-118745.0.html Cnn Condemns Pastor Helen Ukpabio For Attacking Child Witches www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-504355.0.html Torture And Death Of Child 'witches' In Nigeria (akwa-ibom www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-99643.0.html |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by BlackLibya: 5:10am On Oct 19, 2011 |
This is what happens when you force an outside religion on people, and force them to abandon their traditional ways. In Brazil and Haiti, African spirituality is held in high esteem, and the religions are peaceful. In West Africa, the only time people mention African spirituality is in a negative sense, always witches and burning people and spells and whatever. |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by wildwater: 7:58am On Oct 19, 2011 |
I agree with that. I am just angry, because in European Newspapers there are always just articles like that forced, where negative Elements of African culture are published. Even if such things happen, which is a shame and just a sign of fear and low education of narrow minded people for me, I do not think it is proper for a Nigerian woman living abroad generalizing this on her country, as if it would be daily´s happening like witch prosecution in Europe 500 years ago. It ought to be the job of Nigerian people abroad to improve the image of their country, not to put it down. |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by BlackLibya: 8:53pm On Oct 19, 2011 |
in European Newspapers there are always just articles like that forced, where negative Elements of African culture are published That's true, but look at how Africans react. They destroy more and more of their traditional culture in favor of European culture, shunning their compatriots who refuse to follow suit. Imo, this causes fragmentation of the traditions, and as only the ignorant people continue to practice the fragments they remember, it becomes corrupted in the face of foreign cultural imperialism. It would stop if Africans reacted, just like the baby factories, i know there have to baby factories in places like China and India, particularly China where they have companies that literally enslave entire families and they never leave the factory. Do you hear about it? No. This woman was abused though, that's why she spoke out. I know its embarassing, but wouldnt u want to be heard? |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by sil22: 11:37am On Nov 04, 2011 |
I wanted to reply this post earlier but decided to read the book "Hexen Kind" first, which of course was the best thing to do before dropping frustrating and misleading post like "How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country". Thanks @eGuerrilla and i am happy to know that i am not the only one who sees things in a more diverse way. After reading the book, i am so proud of migrants who, not regarding their comfort in Europe would ignore the tragedies happening worldwide, especially in their country of origin. Reading your comment @wildwater, it is obvious that your fear of discrimination of migrants, especially Nigerians has gone beyond your own control. In Europe, there are different groups with different opinions, which is good on one side but absurd on the other. The right-siders who portray all forms of racism have been very successful. One of their basic success is to create a panic and hysteria among migrant and their so-called friends and relatives, that they aren't bold enough to publicly discuss issues affecting them. Everything negative concerning migrants has to be swept under the rug. Nonsense! If you see migrants as an individual with diversity and worth respecting them, it is at their best interest to openly discuss such issues, especially abroad. How will change come if everything is swept under the rug like Wildwater will prefer? Or do you think, this unbalanced south-north relationship should go on forever? @wildwater: Do you claim that Ms. Reiterers research and books are false? Then prove otherwise, as even Nairaland.com has countless reports on the issue of with-hunting and human trafficking. I expect also that the issues of racism, stereotyping, prejudice and discrimination should be tackled. There are also Nigerians abroad doing that. This diversity makes migrants intelligent. There are many positive reports about Nigerian abroad, just search for them. I encourage that there should be more positive reports in the future. One step would be to tell your Nigerian husband to work harder in portraying a positive image about his country and go public with it. Coming back to the book, Hexen Kind, it is recommendable. Unbelievable how the global economical exploitation of African countries has left it harsh effects. Witch hunting happened in Europe and there are still anti-human rights exorcism. this phenomenon happens currently in Latin America, eastern Europe and in Asia too, so do not make this a Nigerian issue. like someone commented on "derstandard" article online, the fact that Ms. Reiterer is Nigerian and talks about these controversial issues is unchangeable. Why not appreciate the positive aspect that Nigerians too are courageous. There are have human rights activist and people who want change in Nigeria or shouldn't there be. if wildwater is another opinion, then that is discrimination! Anyway, the book also outlines this devastating human rights violation in other African country. I guess it is time to support the fight for human rights and stand up. Ah b4 i forget, there is another group of individuals living in Europe, they call themselves friends of migrants. Often European women married to migrants are such. Most of them, i would not generalize, are very comfortable with the "Savior syndrome" to have married eg. a Nigeria asylum seeker and thereby made it possible for him to get a residential and/or working permit. such would relent anything that is said negatively about their spouses country without taking a closer look. Diversity means enlightenment and i urge wildwaters and her kind, to read the book before causing alarm! Also claiming Ms. Reiterers engagement is money-driven . bizarre. wondering how much money one can make. But if it is that much, then isn't it great to do something good and also earn money from it? After all most rich individuals out there, earn theirs from violating others rights. If you were so engaged in preserving the image of Nigeria, then you would have taking time to translate the interview properly, without insulting the Nigerian embassy. Thinking of how long you stayed in Nigeria and how guided your trip was, you were not on a research trip i guess? @blacklybia - it si true about the fact that these happens when you force a religion on people. It is also true that this is basically a result of less perspective and poverty also caused by ones greed and western exploitation of affected countries. Quoting you "This woman was abused though, that's why she spoke out. I know its embarrassing, but wouldn't u want to be heard?" you are right. she spoke out. How many dares to speak out? Who will give these people a voice? I hope Ms. Reiterer gets several awards for her engagement. |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by Amujale(m): 7:05am On Nov 07, 2011 |
Desperation to sell a story, if you have nothing better to do why not try prostitution at least that only affects two people not milions of people. Obviously, it has to be someone with no home training whatsover, people that write tragedy often choice outside from their homeland NOT us; for the love of money we will attempt to curse our own peers. Back to sender useless girl, kettle calling pot black. If it was up to me, you wont sell epini of those degrading books |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by Horus(m): 12:21pm On Nov 07, 2011 |
BlackLibya: I agree with what you said, and when an european is using the word witch, for him a witch doctor is a European's way of deceiving you into thinking that your village healer (or botanist) who had the cures was some kind of demon, devil worshipper, or bad person. |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by BootyOnMe: 12:44am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Europe, Nigeria. . .no difference. The continent/country of babalawos! Full of fetish, UGLY goons! |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by Nayah(f): 11:05am On Nov 09, 2011 |
wildwater: Hello everyone, you might be right on that brother but to be honest sometimes we Africans give them opportunities to talk negatively about us and our culture |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by BlackLibya: 3:36am On Nov 10, 2011 |
This woman violates herself everyday with that wig. |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by BCuZiMBlaCk(m): 7:50pm On Nov 12, 2011 |
BootyOnMe: |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by redsun(m): 9:10pm On Nov 12, 2011 |
Oh yeah!Do you think you have a repution?The repution of africa in the west is misery and lack,the people that beg. |
Re: How Nigerians Living In Europe Ruin The Reputation Of Their Country by redsun(m): 9:11pm On Nov 12, 2011 |
Fork what the west think.It is what u think that matters and how u go about it. |
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