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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by nairalanda1(m): 3:39pm On Oct 05, 2023
RepoMan007:

You and your stupid arguments again. After petrol subsidy, it is education subsidy.

Is Cambridge the only school in the world? If we pay lecturers by Cambridge standard, will they pay utility bills at same cost in UK? Or eat at same cost in UK? Or move around at same rate as UK? Or pay taxes at same rate? Or leave girls alone like Cambridge lecturers do?

Your brain should tell you it isnt the same thing to live in UK and Nigeria so same labour should never be rewarded based on profession but on many factors.


Thanks for being on talkline.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by modernWays: 3:40pm On Oct 05, 2023
Joythah:
No be lie o... This one na real crisis.
I wrote one course during my pg days before the strike. Me I know say na fail I fail.
After the strike, the lecturer don Japa. But the good man passed everyone who took the course.
God bless him wherever he dey o. I for dey write carryover con still pay school fees join

He is not a good man, and God will not bless him anywhere he is. The fool is still on government payrolls, while neglected his duty to teach you what you deserve.

I personally knew many of them back then, they would only be coming every year or 6 month and go back. If you think I am lying, go and find out in your department if he still on faculty register or not.

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by FireUpNow(m): 3:41pm On Oct 05, 2023
APc, Buhari and Tinubu don't believe in education after all certificates of foreign universities can be dodged. I dey life Those calling that man a first class holder.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Badb0y4lyf(m): 3:44pm On Oct 05, 2023
pongwa:
nothing like brain drain if we have more capable hands that can fill their positions

You na go just dey talk no two people are alike at a professorship level it’s hard to replicate they may teach same subject but insight , IQ , interest, research work is different. Why has there no been any other Einstein, did you no German lost Einstein to America and many european mathematicians and physicists at the time of world war they were instrumental to modern dey science, mathematics, Quantum physics and the likes Brain drain is real
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by pongwa(m): 3:54pm On Oct 05, 2023
Badb0y4lyf:


You na go just dey talk no two people are alike at a professorship level it’s hard to replicate they may teach same subject but insight , IQ , interest, research work is different. Why has there no been any other Einstein, did you no German lost Einstein to America and many european mathematicians and physicists at the time of world war they were instrumental to modern dey science, mathematics, Quantum physics and the likes Brain drain is real
my comment never downplayed the existence of Brain drain. I only stressed the effect wouldn't be so pronounced if we had worthy replacement for these highly specialised skills you mentioned. Lastly, Nigeria is blessed with talents so we should be fine once government allows them to grow by providing an enabling environment
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Joythah(m): 3:58pm On Oct 05, 2023
Oga calm down o. They are entitled to study leave with pay. It's mostly a fall back plan to help them while looking for jobs to do.
modernWays:


He is not a good man, and God will not bless him anywhere he is. The fool is still on government payrolls, while neglected his duty to teach you what you deserve.

I personally knew many of them back then, they would only be coming every year or 6 month and go back. If you think I am lying, go and find out in your department if he still on faculty register or not.

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Angy55(f): 3:58pm On Oct 05, 2023
BloomingDale:
White men should please stop all these mass migration to their countries, and help us help the African man to stay and build his country. Don’t allow the African man to eat from the table you have prepared for yourselves, women and children. Help us help him prepare his own table for himself, women and children. I beg of you. The shame is too much for us that they cannot build a decent civilization for himself, women and children.

Why would they stop?
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Badb0y4lyf(m): 4:07pm On Oct 05, 2023
pongwa:
my comment never downplayed the existence of Brain drain. I only stressed the effect wouldn't be so pronounced if we had worthy replacement for these highly specialised skills you mentioned. Lastly, Nigeria is blessed with talents so we should be fine once government allows them to grow by providing an enabling environment

That’s is it we are blessed but no enabling environment Among my peers I know we have brilliant people but the quest for survival is first we are only clever and ingenious now in making money. In the next 30 years I’m not sure we would have qualified replacements Cos Every one is trying to survive
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Palevu: 4:15pm On Oct 05, 2023
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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Smartguyboy(m): 4:16pm On Oct 05, 2023
All this is happening because some people want they ethnic group people to be in power not minding if the person is qualified or not . Even with criminal records as long as it’s their tribal name they don’t care how can we move on as a country if we have this kind of mindset? It going to get worse because no solution to make it better when the wrong people are in power.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Larryndelaw: 4:19pm On Oct 05, 2023
Uk has stopped taking them . Maybe they will Japa to Afghanistan
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by omoadeleye(m): 4:32pm On Oct 05, 2023
Nigeria should upgrade to online teaching system, less teachers and more students,

Students studies and exams will be automated and reduce teaching cost and generate more revenue.

Less teaching staffs in form of system administrators.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by StatisticianDr: 4:35pm On Oct 05, 2023
BloomingDale:
White men should please stop all these mass migration to their countries, and help us help the African man to stay and build his country. Don’t allow the African man to eat from the table you have prepared for yourselves, women and children. Help us help him prepare his own table for himself, women and children. I beg of you. The shame is too much for us that they cannot build a decent civilization for himself, women and children.

People japa because of better pay. Nigeria should pay their workers very well.

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by StatisticianDr: 4:36pm On Oct 05, 2023
cocolacec:
Let them go,others can take their jobs.

How can you replace their experience. Can you replace a professor of medicine with 30 years experience.

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by StatisticianDr: 4:37pm On Oct 05, 2023
OriginalCEO:
there wont be shortage of lecturers


Haaa! See you, there's shortage of lecturers already in many universities. There's embargo on employment.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Slymontee: 4:44pm On Oct 05, 2023
nairalanda1:
sad

1.This shows that there has been 8 years of disaster, and the effects of corruption. I have to mention this

2.It also shows the effect of low fees, low fees and did I say low fees and low income.

In 2018, the then VC of ABU Zaria gave a speech. In the speech, he made two comments that I am going to list below

1.His overhead costs for the previous year were 600 million naira. Government gave him 120 million. Where is he going to find the remainder of the money

2.If you want Cambridge level universities, pay Cambridge level fees.


Now, you are free to insult, abuse, mock, call me insensitive, call me the son of a canine, etc.

But our universites are and always have been BROKE. And underfunded. As a result, we cannot do high quality research, pay high quality salaries, and pay for high quality facilites. The hostels and living accomodation are shanties, and the staff accomodation is no better either( by the late 1980's, staff living in university accomodation had to pay for repairs out of their pocket, because the unis had no money)

Back to ABU. ABU's budget was N25 billion naira or 26 million pounds.. Cambridge uni.. 2 billion pounds with an endowment of 9 billion pounds.

Let that sink in.

Let that sink in.

And yet, many people come here and expect our universites to be like Cambridge on such small fees. Expect them to conduct world class research on such small fees.


Nigerians, make we think.

We have these choices.

1.We can raise fees, or let the unis set fees...so that they can earn money and pay for improvements, and retain staff..

2.We can do as Denmark does and pay for free education with half our annual income...that is everyone from Dangote and Ned to the beggar on the street.

3.Or we can pretend university is cheap, and continue to lose staff numbers, and lose retention of people.


It goes beyond APC, PDP, and LP....because this headline...awas the same headline in the 1980's 1990's 20000's and even as recently as 10-15 years ago. University lecturers have been japaing for DECADES. I mean for decades. We don't have enough lecturers, and enough spaces....because we think that cambridge level education costs less than N20000 a year, when it is actually more than 2 million.

But we got to let the poor breathe, eh?

ASUU never asked for Cambridge Salary or Cambridge level facilities. They only asked that their 2009 agreement with Govt be implemented; that would have cost N1.2trillion (which must not be released once, but 3 years) Everything required to upgrade the Universities and Staff welfare was worked out. Guess what; GEJ released N200B, it helped. Buhari released N0.00., instead he crashed Naira so much that the remaining N1B is worth nothing! Now Emilokan has buried naira, such that the N1B is a tissue paper even if he releases all at once. This is why lecturers are moving out in droves. In one department in Michael Opara University of Agric., Umudike, Abia State, the only lecturer remaining is the HOD. I'm serious! I have met him one-on-one. APC is Boko Haram (Anti-education). PDP didn't do enough, but they did much for the education sector. The year is almost ended, many lecturers are still paying back money borrowed for survival during the ASUU strike, because the arrears are still withheld by APC even when the value of the money has reduced by 75%, thanks to Emilokanomics. Lecturers' Lives Matter.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Elidrisy20: 4:51pm On Oct 05, 2023
Good for them
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Rebuker(m): 5:06pm On Oct 05, 2023
Sharp men.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJEzEvf_95Q



Some people are yet to realise how much of importance this update I dropped is, here. Probably because it's free. Lol.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Positiveme2020: 5:27pm On Oct 05, 2023
Most of the lecturers leaving are not leaving to come and take up lecturing jobs here. They may seek other jobs options but not lecturing. Why do I say this,Many Nigerian lectures don't research they are still backward no institutions will absorb them.

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by MatrixCircle: 5:32pm On Oct 05, 2023
My freind who is a lecturer at a federal University told me only 4 of them lecturers are remaining at the Department , the rest has japa to UK and Canada grin grin grin grin, he is also processing his documents.

Federal university ooo grin grin

One day students will come and meet cleaners and some none academic staffs running the Department grin

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by nedekid: 5:37pm On Oct 05, 2023
cocolacec:
Let them go,others can take their jobs.
When the best leave, the mediocre takes over.

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Bizibi(m): 5:41pm On Oct 05, 2023
pongwa:
nothing like brain drain if we have more capable hands that can fill their positions
capable hands to fill 75%....
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by walezy14(m): 5:45pm On Oct 05, 2023
It create rooms for employment of others.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by pongwa(m): 5:48pm On Oct 05, 2023
Bizibi:
capable hands to fill 75%....
Mr. Man if you wanna leave, leave

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by pongwa(m): 5:50pm On Oct 05, 2023
nedekid:

When the best leave, the mediocre takes over.
not always true. In reality, "the best" is an illusion and artificial concept man created to differentiate. Everybody has the capacity to be "the best".
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by jesmond3945: 5:54pm On Oct 05, 2023
planetx:
How many of them will continue their professional career in the so called abroad, you better leave story and stop getting impressed with sound bites without knowing the full story, most of them just committed career suicide. They are all in the US driving Uber and doing deliveries their little saving grace is the exchange rate but no fulfillment.
any lecturer wey dey drive uber na im do himself.
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by nairalanda1(m): 6:07pm On Oct 05, 2023
Slymontee:
ASUU never asked for Cambridge Salary or Cambridge level facilities. They only asked that their 2009 agreement with Govt be implemented; that would have cost N1.2trillion (which must not be released once, but 3 years) Everything required to upgrade the Universities and Staff welfare was worked out. Guess what; GEJ released N200B, it helped. Buhari released N0.00., instead he crashed Naira so much that the remaining N1B is worth nothing! Now Emilokan has buried naira, such that the N1B is a tissue paper even if he releases all at once. This is why lecturers are moving out in droves. In one department in Michael Opara University of Agric., Umudike, Abia State, the only lecturer remaining is the HOD. I'm serious! I have met him one-on-one. APC is Boko Haram (Anti-education). PDP didn't do enough, but they did much for the education sector. The year is almost ended, many lecturers are still paying back money borrowed for survival during the ASUU strike, because the arrears are still withheld by APC even when the value of the money has reduced by 75%, thanks to Emilokanomics. Lecturers' Lives Matter.


Even then , the points stand.

Plus lecturers have been jakpaing long before 1999. The 2009 ASUU agreement did not stop that. At the end , we need far more than the 1.5 trillion promised
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by StemCellTherapi(m): 6:21pm On Oct 05, 2023
This is true.

My friend who is a Lecturer also told me about this around July this year.

We were chatting via WhatsApp. I was telling him to help me find work in the University where he lectures.

Then he mentioned that there are over 2000 vacancies in the University where he works.

He said so many Lectures have Japa.

I said..."hmmm".

In August, just 2 months after, he posted a picture of himself on his WhatsApp status.

Baba was in Newyork, USA angry

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Rukevwe999(m): 6:30pm On Oct 05, 2023
That's not a problem. Very soon corpers would be deployed as lecturers
Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Believeintruth: 6:32pm On Oct 05, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
They will come back and queue behind those courageous and patriotic ones who stay backwink We have travelled this road before.

Please do us a great favor and keep quiet. are you not seeing the nonsense going on? Na wah for you oooo because you want to support a fraud as a president you are just here saying nonsense.

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by ogaontop(m): 6:58pm On Oct 05, 2023
cocolacec:
Let them go,others can take their jobs.
That was how we lost the Nigerian best professor of Nuclear physics in my school, till date my school doesn't offer M.sc and PhD in nuclear physics!
Who go teach them
Who even understand the course talk less of teaching?

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Re: Crisis Looms In Varsities Over Mass Exodus Of Lecturers by Agugbadin: 7:20pm On Oct 05, 2023
One of greatest evil that BUHARI did to Nigeria in his eight years of rule,May posterity judge him.

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