LordReed:


LMFAO! If killing newborns in place of the guilty is absurd and unreasonable and thus illogical so is "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others. So glad you can recognise the absurdity, unreasonability and illogicality of such a proposition. Bwahahahahaha!

Your Reductio ad absurdum" and "fallacy of extended analogy and twisting. No work.

It can't be twisted devil. No Road!

Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you

Which logic tells any sane person that everything in the universe came from nothing?

Dtruthspeaker:


Your Reductio ad absurdum" and "fallacy of extended analogy and twisting. No work.

It can't be twisted devil. No Road!

Bwahahahahaha! Thus we prove the central premise of Christianity is absurd, unreasonable and illogical, thanks to Dtruthspeaker. QED
LoLz!

Aemmyjah:


Which logic tells any sane person that everything in the universe came from nothing?

The same one that assumes a creator made the universe from nothing.

Aemmyjah:


Which logic tells any sane person that everything in the universe came from nothing?

if you were logical enough, you will understand that not everyone who thinks that the universe must have come from something is into religion.

triplechoice:


In these parts, poverty and poor education are the main reason religion "always attract the least thinkers ". Boko Haram understands this very well ,hence they say "no to western education "

In countries where things work, with citizens having easy access to good quality education ,people living there are only interested in practicing a religion because of what they hope to benefit from it and not necessarily because they cannot think critically or are "least thinkers " .The president of the United States of America ,the most powerful country in the world, is a religious person, a Christian .

Does he lack the capacity to think critically ?

Religious beliefs are founded on two major things ,the personal experiences of the believer while practicing the religion ,and what is contain in religious text.

You are focused on the latter, which they don't really hold on strongly to, and hence don't have the correct perspective on things .

There will always come a time in man's life when things go south and all the things one knows no longer work to deal with the situation ,logic and rational thinking fails and one is left confused ,with depression starting to set in.

It's at this point some persons are forced to embrace a religion to bring calm to their minds and not because they lack the capacity to think critically .

So before you start to judge anyone as "least intelligent " because they practice a religion try to understand what exactly it's that has caused them to do what they are doing .

show me where I tagged religious people "least intelligent".

I think that "least thinkers" and "least intelligent" are 2 different things.
The difference between critical thinking and intelligence is that critical thinking is a skill, while intelligence is a trait. Critical thinking is the ability to analyze information and make rational decisions, while intelligence refers to a person's overall mental abilities. So, someone can be very intelligent, but not necessarily a good critical thinker. And vice versa, someone can be a great critical thinker but not particularly intelligent. Does that make sense?

So you can be intelligent but you do not posses critical thinking skill. Religion attract will most likely attract these set of people

LordReed:


The same one that assumes a creator made the universe from nothing.

And what is made has complete understanding of its Maker?

Kepukepu:
if you were logical enough, you will understand that not everyone who thinks that the universe must have come from something is into religion.

That is where sense fails you

Aemmyjah:


And what is made has complete understanding of its Maker?

LoLz. Nice try to shift the topic. Is it logical to assume the universe came from nothing? Let's stick with that question.

Aemmyjah:


That is where sense fails you

it does not, you just cat think.

LordReed:


LoLz. Nice try to shift the topic. Is it logical to assume the universe came from nothing? Let's stick with that question.

If ur brain tells you something comes from nothing. It's your problem

Should a sane person look for where a builder comes from to be a house was built?

Kepukepu:
it does not, you just cat think.

Logic tells the mind nothing can come from nothing
Beat that logic na

Aemmyjah:


Logic tells the mind nothing can come from nothing
Beat that logic na

religious people also hold this belief. God came from nothing

Kepukepu:
religious people also hold this belief. God came from nothing

Let's go back to logic

The universe has a beginning and is eternal
Now, either the universe came from nothing or from something/someone

Only fools accept that something can emerge from nothing
If it did not come from nothing, it either came by someone eternal or something eternal

That's what a critical thinker should do
A good critical minded person is not overly pessimistic cos that is a characteristic of unintelligent people

In addition, you cant measure God with the same substance we measure others since he's the one who made all things

Common sense tells me that something cannot come from nothing. That's the foolishness of atheists

YOU ARE UNDERRATING RELIGION AND THE SELFISHNESS OF HUMANITY WHEN YOU SAY THAT RELIGION DOES NOT THINK, NOT LOGIC, NOT LAW AND NOT SERIOUS ACADEMIC STUFF.
READ PSALMS ONE, ONE ONE NINE, ONE FIFTY AND ONE FIFTY ONE OF DAVID. THEY ARE ALL ABOUT COMMUNING, PHILOSOPHISING, THINKING AND REASONING ABOUT GOD. GOD IS SECRET. YOU WANT WISDOM, GO TO GOD ALONE IN SECRET AND YOU'LL GET WISDOM.

Aemmyjah:


Let's go back to logic

The universe has a beginning and is eternal
Now, either the universe came from nothing or from something/someone

Only fools accept that something can emerge from nothing
If it did not come from nothing, it either came by someone eternal or something eternal

That's what a critical thinker should do
A good critical minded person is not overly pessimistic cos that is a characteristic of unintelligent people

In addition, you can measure God with the same substance we measure others since he's the one who made all things

Common sense tells me that something cannot come from nothing. That's the foolishness of atheists

a critical think will wait for evidence.
A critical thinker does jump to conclusions without basic knowledge

Kepukepu:
a critical think will wait for evidence.
A critical thinker does jump to conclusions without basic knowledge

Give us evidence that order can come by mindless process?

Aemmyjah:


If ur brain tells you something comes from nothing. It's your problem

Should a sane person look for where a builder comes from to be a house was built?

LoLz. Great so it's your problem not mine.

Your question doesn't make sense, try writing it a different way.

LordReed:


LoLz. Great so it's your problem not mine.

Your question does make sense, try writing it a different way.

When logic fails atheists

Aemmyjah:


Give us evidence that order can come by mindless process?

Simple example: a snowflake.

Kepukepu:
show me where I tagged religious people "least intelligent".

I think that "least thinkers" and "least intelligent" are 2 different things.
The difference between critical thinking and intelligence is that critical thinking is a skill, while intelligence is a trait. Critical thinking is the ability to analyze information and make rational decisions, while intelligence refers to a person's overall mental abilities. So, someone can be very intelligent, but not necessarily a good critical thinker. And vice versa, someone can be a great critical thinker but not particularly intelligent. Does that make sense?

So you can be intelligent but you do not posses critical thinking skill. Religion attract will most likely attract these set of people

I will respond to all of the above later when I'm less busy.

But in the meantime if you go back to read what I posted earlier you will see where I quoted you correctly "least thinkers " at the beginning to let you know the last one was an error .

LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! Thus we prove the central premise of Christianity is absurd, unreasonable and illogical, thanks to Dtruthspeaker. QED
LoLz!

Your twisting and fallacious Reductio ad absurdum" and extended analogy. No work. Everyone saw it No Road, devil! Hahahahahaha

Aemmyjah:


When logic fails atheists

LoLz. When Aemmyjah looks into the mirror that is held up to reflect himself.

Dtruthspeaker:


Your twisting and fallacious Reductio ad absurdum" and extended analogy. No work. Everyone saw it No Road, devil! Hahahahahaha

LMFAO! If killing newborns in place of the guilty is absurd and unreasonable and thus illogical so is "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others. So glad you can recognise the absurdity, unreasonability and illogicality of such a proposition. Bwahahahahaha!

Kepukepu:
Religion is based upon dogma - therefore one is encouraged to have faith in the unexaminable.

“Faith”, by definition, is the acceptance of a concept in the face of conflicting evidence or no evidence at all.”

Does that sound like “critical thinking” to you?

Is it not faith power you used to get a job? Or to travel? Or to believe that you won't die on the operation table?

Every man uses faith even devils too.

LordReed:


Simple example: a snowflake.

I see a marvel of design

paxonel:
are the religious tenets afraid of being questioned?

Because, me i believe.
And critical thinking and logic have helped convinced me to believe.

Pls help me ask any atheists how laws, order and organization in the universe can come by mindless process

Aemmyjah:



I see a marvel of design

There is nobody designing them, they are from a "mindless process".

LordReed:


LMFAO! If killing newborns in place of the guilty is absurd and unreasonable and thus illogical so is "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others. So glad you can recognise the absurdity, unreasonability and illogicality of such a proposition. Bwahahahahaha!

Overstretching an argument to a point of absurdity is fallacious and most unreasonable.especially as by your argument, you are the devil kiilling babies.

whereas No reasonable person has ever thought it illogical for a Father to send His Son, to die, in saving others. E.g. like the father of a fireman who allows his son go into WTC to save people.

Your twisting and fallacious Reductio ad absurdum" and extended analogy. Can never work. No Road devil. Hahahahahaha.

Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you

You believe the universe is without a designer?

LordReed:


There is nobody designing them, they are from a "mindless process".

Bwahahahahaha

Dtruthspeaker:


Overstretching an argument to a point of absurdity is fallacious and most unreasonable.especially as by your argument, you are the devil kiilling babies.

whereas No reasonable person has ever thought it illogical for a Father to send His Son, to die, in saving others. E.g. like the father of a fireman who allows his son go into WTC to save people.

Your twisting and fallacious Reductio ad absurdum" and extended analogy. Can never work. No Road devil. Hahahahahaha.

LoLz. A fireman allowing his son to go save people is not killing his son for their sins so yeah you are the one with the fallacious analogy.

LMFAO! If killing newborns in place of the guilty is absurd and unreasonable and thus illogical so is "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others. So glad you can recognise the absurdity, unreasonability and illogicality of such a proposition. Bwahahahahaha!