delpee:


I believe they'll appreciate useful ideas from you.

jmaxjohn:



Think local restaurants and the stock of Styrofoam they have to provide affordable take outs for their customers.

Mind u, I think it costs 100/150ngn per Styrofoam pack rn. 300ngn per plastic pack. Same time last year, Styrofoam packs cost 50ngn per pack, and 100/150ngn for plastics.

Now those local restaurants will have to dispose off their stock. What do you think will happen to the wholesale price of plastics if the cheaper alternative is immediately eradicated?
What do you think will happen to the price of the plastic takeaway packs that local restaurant sells?

Now lagos has approx 20 million people. I can assure you that about 500 thousand visit different local restaurants daily.

Those 500 thousand would get to local restaurants and be met by a new price increment. They've been facing new price increments every week since the inception of this new govt. And now they're facing a new one, because of a thoughtless Styrofoam ban.

Before you type anyhow reply, just read my reply to another anyhow response about this ban immmediately above this one

Nice writeup.

Their foolish supporters would see, nothing wrong with the ban, as long as it was done by their tribes man or political party.
Most of them would even support ban on breathing Air, if is done by their political Lords.

Very dumb set of ppl.

fergie001:


Tokunbo Wahab
Commissioner for Environment & Water Affairs, Lagos State

Excellent decision

AuthorMan:


Must you insult people for their humble opinion?
Everyone can't think like you. Grow up

no nah,no matter how we condemn bad policies,we must also commend laudable ones too.only and unfortunate and miserable person looks at everything from a bad perspective.

madridguy:
Go and tell your uncles at home to shut up.

i can tell your father to shut up too.

Another job lost loom. Banning them should not be lasting solution but to regulate them if possible have a meeting with Manufacturer and suggest about buying back policy to them for recycling.

madridguy:
The Lagos State Commissioner for Environment & Water Affairs should calm down and take things easy. This is peoples solely source of income and I believe there should be time frame to this.

Baba I no gree for this one abeg.

People should learn to have a plate for taking for meals from restaurants. Honestly, we need to enforce this all over Nigeria. The environment is something else.

Brendaniel:


What did Lagos state provide as alternative to replace plastic takeaways?

Go to Governor's office in marina or ikeja, he will give more details

AuthorMan:

Rwanda on my mind. Peaceful and neat.

A week or a month holiday will be good

Sleekfingers:



Go to Governor's office in marina or ikeja, he will give more details

So you don't know? Then why did you claim Lagos is ready?

dfrost:


Baba I no gree for this one abeg.

People should learn to have a plate for taking for meals from restaurants. Honestly, we need to enforce this all over Nigeria. The environment is something else.

Oga, listen to yourself, so everybody in Nigeria will be carrying plate and water bottle?

jmaxjohn:


Do you remember the below picture? Image 1. I do. I'm old enough to.

In those 25 years, what has the lagos state government done about effective recycling and trash disposal?

It's even funnier you think I'm not aware of the cop28 conference that just happened

You say this is about the environment. Yes it is.

Are you aware though that the co2 emissions of usa is 25 times higher than ours as at 2019?

I'm all out for banning Styrofoam. It's a physical menace in lagos.

Have you asked why the ban on Styrofoam in certain top tier countries around the world?



What else uses hydrocarbons? Check image 2

But take note of the word SLOW TO DEGRADE.

Here's a little statistics for you

According to the EPA, in 2018, the U.S. generated 80,000 tons of polystyrene waste in the form of containers, while less than 5,000 tons of it was actually recycled.

So the usa exceeds nigeria in both co2 emissions and Styrofoam waste. No surprise there.

So why don't they just recycle?

While polystyrene is known to be cost-effective, it's unfortunately very difficult and costly to recycle (despite being stamped with the #6 “chasing arrows” symbol).
Most recycling facilities are unable to process EPS because, unlike other plastics, it's challenging to get back in its base form. Few MRFs and other recycling facilities have invested in the compacting/densifying equipment required to reform foam blocks, and the entire process is time-consuming and expensive.

So they can't recycle it because they'd rather fund wars.
They can't chuck it on a landfill because it's not pretty and it leaks chemicals into the landfill.
And won't litter their environment with it
How about burning it?

Check image 3

That brings us back to they can't fund burning it efficiently because they'd rather fund wars.

So do what? Ban it. They've made enough money from it anyways.

This brings me back to waste disposal.

You ban Styrofoam in Nigeria, you get a rise in other toxic waste materials dumped in the environment causing harm to its people

This is bad for a country with very little efficient waste disposal and recycling systems.

Ban Styrofoam yes. Then what? Won't that increase our dependency on plastic? Do Nigerians know paper plates are a more environmentally friendly option? What happens to our rising landfills? What happens to those smelly corners of waste on streets and estates?

Zero awareness. Zero reasoning. Zero education. Zero planning. Zero execution. Just straight up ban. Why? Government say e no good.

No different from the half reasoned declaration of 'subsidy is gone'. Here we are, months after, paying 9 times the price of fuel AND STILL paying subsidy. Do you not realise yet that the rise in electricity tariff is a result of that thoughtless declaration? Guess what? The government is paying subsidy on electricity too.
Did you know subsidy on electricity was quietly removed according to the last administration? Guess who paid more for subsidy in q2 of 2023.

My point? Thoughtless directives like immediate ban on Styrofoam would only put us in deeper sh!t

Reference image 4

Okay, I’d take my time to read on this. Thanks for the breakdown.

Kongaone:
My 2024 business ooo

Maybe your company should engage in the cleaning of the environment.

Flame333:
Lazy men with less innovative ideas .... Place like China will convert such for useful purpose..


Only loans them sabi borrow, ideas no join..

Don't blame them. That's the best they could offer, or what do you expect from the analogue leaders?

Brendaniel:


So you don't know? Then why did you claim Lagos is ready?

I know. But I want you to do your findings too

Plastic water/beverage bottle should be added to the list. They are serious environmental menace. Our drainages, swamps, rivers and ocean are no longer life friendly due to these plastics indiscriminately being dumped into them

Brendaniel:


Oga, listen to yourself, so everybody in Nigeria will be carrying plate and water bottle?

I really would have typed a lot to respond but no I won't. I don't have the time.

Why can't we carry lunch around, if that saves us the degradation of our environment.?

dfrost:


I really would have typed a lot to respond but no I won't. I don't have the time.

Why can't we carry lunch around, if that saves us the degradation of our environment.?

Show me one country in the world that is doing what you say, so eateries should shut down because of takeaway packs? or people will all have to carry plates to enter eatery to buy food?

Are you listening to yourself?

Means you have been telling your grandpa to shut up

Lanretoye:
i can tell your father to shut up too.

Sleekfingers:



I know. But I want you to do your findings too

I have done my findings based on what the state government published to the public and didn't find any, so if you claim to have another info other than what the government has published then you are a liar, if you cannot provide a proof to your claim then you are a liar.

This thread here is the only publication the state government has released, if you have any other provide it and prove me wrong or remain a liar....

jmaxjohn:


U no get sense.
How many times do you take plastic to that eatery to do takeaway

You are foolish ..the eatery is meant to give you plastic for take away and not the foam.

Brendaniel:


I have done my findings based on what the state government published to the public and didn't find any, so if you claim to have another info other than what the government has published then you are a liar, if you cannot provide a proof to your claim then you are a liar.

This thread here is the only publication the state government has released, if you have any other provide it and prove me wrong or remain a liar....

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Go and ask those Nigeria manufacturers of the banned items. If the government has not tell them what to do....

MarketDispatch:


You are foolish ..the eatery is meant to give you plastic for take away and not the foam.

After making this comment, if u don't understand that you've proved my point of increased dependency on single-used plastics then you're more empty headed than a barrel

Sleekfingers:



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Go and ask those Nigeria manufacturers of the banned items. If the government has not tell them what to do....

I should help you find the evidence you claim you have?

Instead of ensuring proper waste management.
Average Nigerians really need to be sensitised.

Most of the issues Nigeria faces is due to poor Education.

CameroonPepper:
So what should be used in their place?

That's another opportunity to think new business and make money.
I'm sure some smart entrepreneur are working that out already don't stress