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Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Jettage: 4:24pm On Nov 12, 2011
I am sure you would like to listen to the Message of Gbile Akanni how he scripturally demolished modern day trend of deliverance and all the shenanigan of the fraudsters who misrepresented Jesus

As he is wont to do, he never mentioned any names of any Pastor, but he was very vivid with their practical styles of Deliverance

I listened to the Message in Abuja and I was so happy that Gbile is indeed another Man that God has raised in this generation
He does not lower the standard of Christianity; he made it plain and hard Like Jesus

I wish I could post some of the messages here.
But look out for the Theme “Bringing many sons to glory” at Misssi Vallage in Kaduna October 2011

Deliverance is essential for those who are possessed and oppressed. But Gbile opened the eyes to a better truth about what Jesus did at Calvary

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Joagbaje(m): 5:27pm On Nov 12, 2011
You can kindly Highlight the points he made. You don't have to transcribe the entire message.

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Jettage: 5:35pm On Nov 12, 2011
One strong Point made by Bro Gbile is that, Those seeking Deliverance after Claiming they are saved and repeating the process as done in , Have

been bewitched

he made a cynical remarks of Pastor asking members to go for deliverance or else and then the member replying by saying I went last week, and the pastor Responded by saying What! Are you backsliding

please go for deliverance.

He said they do it to feast on the people and making merchandise of them through several meetings

it is a strong to listen to Messages

I am still enjoying them,

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by unamid(m): 9:27pm On Nov 12, 2011
Can u pls explain better the fraud of mountain of fire. Did that man know what delieverance mean?
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Sirniyeh(m): 6:32am On Nov 13, 2011
Hear this, what Gbile Akanni preached is not strange. You value it becauce a pastor preached it. If ordinary athiest condemed the deliverance, people will raise critisms. Not until Gbile expose them, we have already known that 99% of pastor preach to enrich themselve. What is deliverance that a so-claimed born again will be going for deliverance meetings like 12times a year? Deliverance from what? We have street lunatics roaming helplessly, why dont those pastors go and deliver them. In fact, people are still foolish. Deliverance is of two types, possession and obssession. Those who are demonically posseessed need spiritual intervention. But those who are obssessed need only the renewal of their thinking pattern. Many are not possessed but obssessed in their thoght. They have myopic thought, lack innovative thinking, and coward in determination. A graduate who go for deliverance is a fool. Deliverance for what? Dont be decieved

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Joagbaje(m): 9:02am On Nov 13, 2011
Jettage:

He said they do it to feast on the people and making merchandise of them through several meetings

But those who do deliverance don't ask for money ,do they? So what is the fraud and mechanise ?
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Blastus(m): 6:16pm On Nov 13, 2011
@poster
Please don't bring Gbile into your false information. If you are sincere with what you are saying kindly post the message for us to listen and confirm.

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Jettage: 3:18pm On Nov 14, 2011
@Blastus, I can give the messages to you for free, if you live in Abuja. Just give me a call and i will let you know how to get the messages.

Truth is, Gbile makes the finished work of Calvary the final issuse of Faith in Jesus and would not further complicate the messages of Jesus as men are wont to do

http://akinbami.blogspot.com/2011/11/gbile-akanni-and-d-k-olukoya-dont-agree.html
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Joagbaje(m): 3:52pm On Nov 14, 2011
^^^
Let me have your email I'm interested. My email is bellow
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Jettage: 4:21pm On Nov 14, 2011
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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by brotherly: 12:16pm On Nov 15, 2011
one of the mistakes of the modern day christians is either to underemphasize or overemphasize the operations of the devil (please read "screwtape letters" by c.s lewis)
Another problem bothers on the gap between what men of God say and what we(hearers) make/understand of their statements. Gbile Akanni is one of the few well respected men of God in the country.
My take on deliverance is that it is wrong for someone to say Christians do not need deliverance, at the same time it is also very wrong for Christians to look at problems only from the deliverance prism.
In the Bible luke 13:11-16 we see a case of a daughter of Abaraham being bound for 18 years and needed special deliverance. From the account of Christ, it was her right to be healed, however the Devil denied her the right. In mark 8:24 a man was still seeing men as trees after just had touched him, he needed a second touch before he could see properly and Jesus did not leave him without warning him not to return to a certain place he was brought from, most likely because of the works of evil there. Christians should know that on a lot of grounds the devil does not play by the rules, hence sometimes to get what is legitimately ours will require special force/operation which I believe is deliverance.

Any real deliverance is supposed to be done by appropriating the word of God, However saying that being born again places one above the need for deliverance is not entirely correct. Here in Africa there are a lot of negative spiritual transactions our forebears entered on our behalf without our knowledge, such cases have to be treated specially

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Ishilove: 8:15am On Dec 30, 2011
brotherly:

one of the mistakes of the modern day christians is either to underemphasize or overemphasize the operations of the devil (please read "screwtape letters" by c.s lewis)
Another problem bothers on the gap between what men of God say and what we(hearers) make/understand of their statements. Gbile Akanni is one of the few well respected men of God in the country.
My take on deliverance is that it is wrong for someone to say Christians do not need deliverance, at the same time it is also very wrong for Christians to look at problems only from the deliverance prism.
In the Bible luke 13:11-16 we see a case of a daughter of Abaraham being bound for 18 years and needed special deliverance. From the account of Christ, it was her right to be healed, however the Devil denied her the right. In mark 8:24 a man was still seeing men as trees after just had touched him, he needed a second touch before he could see properly and Jesus did not leave him without warning him not to return to a certain place he was brought from, most likely because of the works of evil there. Christians should know that on a lot of grounds the devil does not play by the rules, hence sometimes to get what is legitimately ours will require special force/operation which I believe is deliverance.

Any real deliverance is supposed to be done by appropriating the word of God, However saying that being born again places one above the need for deliverance is not entirely correct. Here in Africa there are a lot of negative spiritual transactions our forebears entered on our behalf without our knowledge, such cases have to be treated specially

Such words of wisdom. God bless you sir

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Eben2: 4:44pm On Dec 30, 2011
The problem with most christians (nominal) is that they don't take time to study their bible; that is why it so easy for so-called pastors to deceive so many people.

Many dont even know what's meant by being born-again. Many dont know that at the point of being born-again; all the works of the devil are destroyed in your life. You're delivered from the claws of sin, devil and death. You're no longer a servant of the devil but a joint heir with Christ.

"If anyman be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things (including sin, sickness, generational curses, influence of witchcraft etc) are passed away; behold, all things are become new" 2 Cor 5:17.

Moreover, once you're genuiely saved, you're given authority over all these things that many pay to be delivered from. "Behold, I give unto you power to
tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." A wall of fire is built around you and the devil can no longer touch you. Oh! he will surely and relentlessly tempt you; he may even use some people to persecute you, but you'll always overcome if you put your trust in the author and finisher of our faith - the man Jesus! "the name of the Lord is a strong tower; the righteous runneth into it and is saved"

@brotherly,

Pls note that the woman you mentioned in Luke 13 was not born-again before her encounter with our Lord though a daughter of Abraham. That she was an Isrealiste doe not authomatically qualified her as being born-again.

If you're not saved yet, why dont you take this opportunity to come to the Lord; He's calling with opened arms. How long will you serve the devil, sin and self. the Lord is calling today, tomorrow might just be too late!

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Akolawole(m): 4:07am On Dec 31, 2011
What a topic to bring me out of my long sabatica from Nairaland!




Eben 2:

The problem with most christians (nominal) is that they don't take time to study their bible; that is why it so easy for so-called pastors to deceive so many people.

Many dont even know what's meant by being born-again. Many dont know that at the point of being born-again; all the works of the devil are destroyed in your life. You're delivered from the claws of sin, devil and death. You're no longer a servant of the devil but a joint heir with Christ.

"If anyman be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things (including sin, sickness, generational curses, influence of witchcraft etc) are passed away; behold, all things are become new" 2 Cor 5:17.

Moreover, once you're genuiely saved, you're given authority over all these things that many pay to be delivered from. "Behold, I give unto you power to
tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." A wall of fire is built around you and the devil can no longer touch you. Oh! he will surely and relentlessly tempt you; he may even use some people to persecute you, but you'll always overcome if you put your trust in the author and finisher of our faith - the man Jesus! "the name of the Lord is a strong tower; the righteous runneth into it and is saved"

@brotherly,

Pls note that the woman you mentioned in Luke 13 was not born-again before her encounter with our Lord though a daughter of Abraham. That she was an Isrealiste doe not authomatically qualified her as being born-again.


There's nowhere in the entire bible where deliverance is performed on a christian.

Its obvious that today's christian na follow-follow. They dont even know their stand in Christ.

Any christian that walk in disobedience will be OPPRESSED. What is the way out? Repentance NOT silly Deliverance as some do.

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Eben2: 8:45am On Dec 31, 2011
When a genuine christian mentions the name of Jesus, every kneels bow

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Ishilove: 10:06am On Dec 31, 2011
Akolawole:

What a topic to bring me out of my long sabatica from Nairaland!





There's nowhere in the entire bible where deliverance is performed on a christian.

Its obvious that today's christian na follow-follow. They dont even know their stand in Christ.

Any christian that walk in disobedience will be OPPRESSED. What is the way out? Repentance NOT silly Deliverance as some do.
Go back and read your bible. Jesus Christ himself was the Chief deliverance minister. So were the apostles after him. The first thing you should understand is the concept of deliverance itself
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Eben2: 11:06pm On Dec 31, 2011
Ishilove:

Go back and read your bible. Jesus Christ himself was the Chief deliverance minister. So were the apostles after him. The first thing you should understand is the concept of deliverance itself

Hello my sister,

I will be very glad if you can show me just one place in the bible our Lord Jesus or any of the apostles performed a deliverance service on a born-again person. You can also enlighten us teaching us the BIBILICAL concept of deliverance. Waiting patiently to learn.

Shalom!
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by jokobaba: 9:06pm On Feb 17, 2012
Eben 2:

Hello my sister,

I will be very glad if you can show me just one place in the bible our Lord Jesus or any of the apostles performed a deliverance service on a born-again person. You can also enlighten us teaching us the BIBILICAL concept of deliverance. Waiting patiently to learn.

Shalom!
Ishilove:

Go back and read your bible. Jesus Christ himself was the Chief deliverance minister. So were the apostles after him. The first thing you should understand is the concept of deliverance itself

I find the topic of deliverance really interesting. It is usually an argument of half-filled, half-empty cup. It is a question of balance.
Paul the apostle has so much anointing such that mantles from his body were used to cast out demons (Acts 19:12).
The same Paul stated in 1thess 2:18 that he would have loved to visit the Thessalonians on two occasions but satan hindered him!! what a contradiction!
So if satan could hinder Paul my guess is that he can hinder any other Christian too. That was why Paul advised us in Corinthians 2:11 that we should not be ignorant of the devices of the devil otherwise he would take advantage of us!!
At the same time we should understand the position of the believer, that we are sitted with Christ in heavenly places. however, a man's position may not be his condition as seen in Gal 4:1. So as long as a Christian remains a child the devil can readily take advantage of him;  in the context of this scripture servant would be apt for people who are not born again.
Let us understand what the new creation reality is. "if any man be in Christ he is a new creature, old things are passed away". so what things are passed away? if you were sick before you got born again does it mean you would be healed automatically when you get born again? why do Christians fall ill? have you ever fallen ill since you got born again? so falling sick did not pass away? This scripture says OLD things, NOT ALL things!!
If you failed an exam before you got born again does it mean you have passed the exam now that you are born again without re-writing the exam?
let us know:
We are saved in our spirit. 2cor 5:17
we are being saved in our minds. Romans 12:1-2
we shall be saved in our bodies. Phil 3:21

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Goshen360(m): 9:22pm On Feb 17, 2012
They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick… I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Matthew 9:12)

When or after a child of God is delivered from sin and saved from all satanic oppression, why do they need deliverance?

EMPTY PULPITS
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by JeremyF: 3:24am On Feb 27, 2012
In Isaiah 53:4-6
4Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.


All of this, we know has ALREADY been done at the cross, on Calvary. What does that mean? That through the cross, our translation unto becoming children of God, our salvation, the place where Jesus died for our sins so that we may say yes to him, we have been granted all the following promises in those scriptures. Notice the past tense reference of each scripture. Meaning God has already given it to us.

1 John 3:8
. . . But the Son of God came to destroy the works of the devil. –New living translation


Once again the works of the Devil are already destroyed. By whom? Jesus Christ, the word.
We know that in the book of Job, he was righteous, yet many afflictions came upon him. The devil had no power over Job. God allowed those afflictions to come about to show the quality of Job’s faith in Him. The same is true for all TRUE Christians. We will be tested by all sorts of trials, but it is so that we may endure, and persevere unto perfection and to prove our faith in Him.
So it is true sometimes Christians fall ill but don’t let that deceive you to believe you need to go to a deliverance meeting to be set free.

John 8:36
36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.


Like Job it could be a testing of our faith, and if you know what the Word says and have the faith then you can speak against the situation, according to the word and receive what God has promised you. If you are born again, you have the Holy Spirit:

1 John 4:4
You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.


God has giving you the Holy Spirit and through Him the power to overcome. He Himself has called us more than conquerors. If you Abide in Christ you have the power to overcome by the Spirit of God he has given you. Sometimes God will test you with trials so that you will strengthen your faith and depend on the power that he wants to release into you by the Holy Spirit. You have what it takes, you don’t need a deliverance meeting to overcome your situation just to go back to it again for a new problem. You have everything you need inside of you, the Holy Spirit, The Word of God, have faith and overcome.

Ask yourself the question: for those who constantly go to deliverance meetings, where do you suppose their faith is, in Jesus Christ or the meetings?

Remember God's power is released according to your faith. When the Centurion Soldier asked Jesus to heal his servant and told Jesus that he was not worthy to have Him come under his roof, but say a WORD and my servant will be healed. Jesus replied saying he had not seen faith like that in Israel. Where was the Centurions Faith? In God's WORD, and it had the power to heal, Jesu did not have to set up a meeting and lay hands on the servant, he just needed someone who Believed in his Word and came to Him with a request.

I'm not saying that some believers don't have t be delivered from things, but if you really pay attention, they are usually not consistent in the Word of God and Prayer, they might have a secret sin and/or haven't properly repented over a matter, or the more obvious, just don't believe.

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by jokobaba: 11:32am On Feb 27, 2012
JeremyF:

In Isaiah 53:4-6
4Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.


All of this, we know has ALREADY been done at the cross, on Calvary. What does that mean? That through the cross, our translation unto becoming children of God, our salvation, the place where Jesus died for our sins so that we may say yes to him, we have been granted all the following promises in those scriptures. Notice the past tense reference of each scripture. Meaning God has already given it to us.

1 John 3:8
. . . But the Son of God came to destroy the works of the devil. –New living translation


Once again the works of the Devil are already destroyed. By whom? Jesus Christ, the word.
We know that in the book of Job, he was righteous, yet many afflictions came upon him. The devil had no power over Job. God allowed those afflictions to come about to show the quality of Job’s faith in Him. The same is true for all TRUE Christians. We will be tested by all sorts of trials, but it is so that we may endure, and persevere unto perfection and to prove our faith in Him.
So it is true sometimes Christians fall ill but don’t let that deceive you to believe you need to go to a deliverance meeting to be set free.

John 8:36
36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.


Like Job it could be a testing of our faith, and if you know what the Word says and have the faith then you can speak against the situation, according to the word and receive what God has promised you. If you are born again, you have the Holy Spirit:

1 John 4:4
You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.


God has giving you the Holy Spirit and through Him the power to overcome. He Himself has called us more than conquerors. If you Abide in Christ you have the power to overcome by the Spirit of God he has given you. Sometimes God will test you with trials so that you will strengthen your faith and depend on the power that he wants to release into you by the Holy Spirit. You have what it takes, you don’t need a deliverance meeting to overcome your situation just to go back to it again for a new problem. You have everything you need inside of you, the Holy Spirit, The Word of God, have faith and overcome.

Ask yourself the question: for those who constantly go to deliverance meetings, where do you suppose their faith is, in Jesus Christ or the meetings?

Remember God's power is released according to your faith. When the Centurion Soldier asked Jesus to heal his servant and told Jesus that he was not worthy to have Him come under his roof, but say a WORD and my servant will be healed. Jesus replied saying he had not seen faith like that in Israel. Where was the Centurions Faith? In God's WORD, and it had the power to heal, Jesu did not have to set up a meeting and lay hands on the servant, he just needed someone who Believed in his Word and came to Him with a request.

I'm not saying that some believers don't have t be delivered from things, but if you really pay attention, they are usually not consistent in the Word of God and Prayer, they might have a secret sin and/or haven't properly repented over a matter, or the more obvious, just don't believe
.
I really like the last bit. That is why the bible says as long as you remain a child (in spiritual things) the devil can take advantage of you.

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by reveal: 4:25pm On Feb 27, 2012
@Jeremy
Paul met believers in Galatia and Corinthians who were not consistent or had some secret sin in them. I do not read in theBible that he organised deliverance seessions for them.
Rather what i see him and other apostles do is to through thier letters point out how Christ has liberated them and how they are now to live based on what Christ has done.
Discipleship(Teaching and nurturing) belivers is the only answer given to us, but in these days of fast-food nobody wants to spend the time to do this. And we are worse off for that.

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by wordthots: 2:32pm On Jan 01, 2013
Most of these "deliverance people" just love "gymnastics" grin and r ignorant of Gods word. embarassed
I found out most of their philosophies are hinged on the old covenant n personal experiences.
Thank God for the revelation in the epistles abt believers and Christs finished work.

Colossians 1:14
[The Father] has delivered and [a]drawn us to Himself out of the control and the dominion of darkness and has transferred us into the kingdom of the Son [b]of His love,

1john 3:8
 [But] he who commits sin [who practices evildoing] is of the devil [takes his character from the evil one], for the devil has sinned (violated the divine law) from the beginning. The reason the Son of God was made manifest (visible) was to undo (destroy, loosen, and dissolve) the works the devil [has done].

Hebrews 2:14
 Since, therefore, [these His] children share in flesh and blood [in the physical nature of human beings], He [Himself] in a similar manner partook of the same [nature], that by [going through] death He might bring to nought and make of no effect him who had the power of death—that is, the devil—
15 And also that He might deliver and completely set free all those who through the [haunting] fear of death were held in bondage throughout the whole course of their lives.

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by akinademayowa(m): 3:08am On Jan 15, 2013
I've read a lot of comments here &i observe dt even those who confess n profess 2b born again,most of dem do nt really knw what it means 2b born again.to b born again is nt just a theoretical experience but a practical life.so if u r tryn 2explain ds issue of deliverance based on theory-whether wat u'v heard some preachers preachd or just some letters u read in d bible wtout any inspiration n revelation of d meaning by d holy spirit 2u-u'l definitely end up in confusion &most unfortunately thinkin that we u read is d truth.if we really understand wat d death of Christ means practically 2us Christians 2day,u'l knw dt if u r genuinely born again-&God gives u a revelation of wat it means 2b born again-u don't need any organised deliverance again,infact,whether organised or nt,u don't need any.evry deliverance u'l eva need has been completed n perfected on d cross.now I'm nt against deliverance in any way,Jesus did it n he told his disciples:this sign shall follow those that believ,in my name they shall cast out demons.....now lets take note of somethn frm ds passage.who r those dt r 2cast out demons?those that blv.Jesus didn't say they wl b d ones to undergo d casting of demons out of them,,but they wl b d ones 2cast demons out.in other words,it's nt expected of those dt blv to still harbour demons in dr lives.Darkness n light can't live 2geda.now study d ministry of Jesus.it's to 2sets of ppl-d multitudes n d disciples.al d healing,miracles,deliverances etc,Jesus did them to d multitudes,nt a single one of such 2evn d least of his disciples.i didn't c anywhr whr Jesus laid his hand on peter or john or any of dem 2cast out any demon.y?because they r disciples n such can't b demon possessed.d ministry of Jesus 2d disciples was to teach them n train dem.d multitudes neva com closer nor intimately 2Jesus.after each crusad,bible recorded dt he sent dem away.but d disciples followd him evry whr.evn wen he spoke in parables 2d multitudes n they didn't understand,he told d disciples d interpretation.so dr's a wide diff btw disciples n multitudes.today we av 2 unfortunately kinds of churches-d church of multitudes n d church of disciples.it's in d church of multitudes dt God still perform deliverance nt in d church of disciples bt unfortunately many born again Christians find dr selves in d midst of multitudes.u as a born again child of God in d midst of multitudes dt still need salvation,u can't understand d truth about d word of God cos it'll b like speaking in parables wtout any interpreter.so i blv God still wrought deliverance today but nt for a born again child of God
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by enilove: 5:38am On Jan 15, 2013
In matt 17:20-21 Our lord Jesus christ explained why his diciples could not deliver a child posessed with the spirit of insanity.
He first told them that it was because they did not have faith ,later in verse 21 he told them that such problems needed fasting and prayers.
What is deliverance really?It is fasting and praying or in some instances praying alone with faith in God, in another situation it is accepting the Lord Jesus Christ into your life that will deliver some depending on their cases.
Some people will receive baptism of the holy spirit the very day they got born again some 20 years and some never, depending on the heart or your foundation.This does not mean because some are not receiving the holy spirit baptism that it does not exist or not possible to be received withing a week for some christians.
In a nut shell deliverance is real and needed for some people while for some it is just for them to repent.

The reason why some pstors commit some sins that make the unbelievers to say things against the body of christ is what we are discusing here.
There are some pastors that are suppose to be ordinary members that are ministering as pastors.Some more biblical studies are needed,and some 40 days fasting and prayers for them to be qualified as fit for the post.Fingers are not equal and situations defer at times.

Deliverance ministry is a difficult and special ministry.A person that the devil and agent of darkness has bound and aflicted for years ,need special power of God to be delivered It is not every General Overseer that God called into that kind of ministry.Because if they try it the devil will molest them easily.It is not every pastor that can lay hands on a lunatic.
Before our Lord Jesus christ Started his ministry,he fasted 40 days and forty night.Why?Was that not a personal deliverance for a son of God?Because he came in the form of a man.
In 1st cor12:5-11 it says there are differences in administration of the holy spirit, that gives diferrent gift some healing some faith etc


Deliverance means to rescue.So God has perfomed deliverance in the life of every born again christian at least to an extent.But some need more fasting and prayers and reading the bible to know their rights in God .Deliverance is a continuous process for every christian who is growing spirituallySome habits will not go immidiately you are born again .Some it is after reading your bible and attending church services regularly .Remember that our foundations are not the same

My prayer is that our people who are still in the dark thinking they are worshiping God will be shown the light ,but we christians need not to discourage them by our words .The devil likes it when we condemn what God is doing and would discourage others from accepting Jesus christ as the messiah of the world.

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by AtheistD(m): 7:51am On Jan 15, 2013
brotherly:

Any real deliverance is supposed to be done by appropriating the word of God, However saying that being born again places one above the need for deliverance is not entirely correct. Here in Africa there are a lot of negative spiritual transactions our forebears entered on our behalf without our knowledge, such cases have to be treated specially

Here we go again undecided

So what did Africas forefathers do that is so much worse than other parts of the world?

I am really tired of the stupidity of these xtians. Do you know this deliverance does more harm than good? It creates so much fear that ppl feel the need to go multiple times. Ppl also change too. They become more paranoid.
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Goshen360(m): 3:08pm On Jan 15, 2013
brotherly:

Any real deliverance is supposed to be done by appropriating the word of God, However saying that being born again places one above the need for deliverance is not entirely correct. Here in Africa there are a lot of negative spiritual transactions our forebears entered on our behalf without our knowledge, such cases have to be treated specially


New Living Translation (©2007)
My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this earthly body by trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Expanded Bible (EXB)
I was put to death on the cross [ have been crucified] with Christ, and I do not live anymore—it is Christ who lives in me. I still live in my body [flesh], but I live by faith in [or because of the faithfulness of] the Son of God who loved me and gave himself to save me [ for me; on my behalf]. - Galatians 2:20

Do you mean to say, as Christ NOW lives in us as believers as there was a divine exchange at Calvary, you still need deliverance WITH CHRIST THAT LIVES IN YOU and you NO LONGER LIVE TO YOURSELF?

What Christ did on the cross crushed principalities, powers, and spiritual wickedness and disarmed and disgraced all of them, including the ones in Africa. Those in Africa could be stronger than those in Europe, but no power compares to that which emanates from Calvary, so please let us not use the situation of Africa to degrade the power of the cross, it defeated Satan himself, the boss of them all. Whatever you can preach in Africa but cannot preach elsewhere IS NOT THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST, It's traditions of men!

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Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by ochallo: 6:26pm On Jan 15, 2013
This article just goes to show that even Men of GOd can say things that are erroneous. I am a christian and i know the need for deliverance. At poster , instead of listening to that tape , why don't you watch the mount zion film, "captives of the mighty" at least they are not MFM, since you have an issue with MFM that has helped deliver hundreds of thousands of people from evil powers affliting the human race
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by dolphinife: 4:44pm On Apr 12, 2013
Why would someone open his mouth to say AFRICA is the bedrock of witchcraft, wizardry, and some other traditional believes?
paganism is much more pronounced with JAPAN, CHINA, KOREA, INDIA. AUSTRALIA, EUROPE, AMERICA to an extent and yet they achieve much more than we in AFRICA.
Which country on earth does not have ancestral past or foundational problems?
The problems we have in Africa is not as a result of any spiritual or foundational attacks, rather, its because of our self-imposed backwardness.....
IS IT THE SPIRITUAL PROBLEMS THAT IS MAKING OUR PRESIDENT AND GOVERNORS NON-PERFORMING?
IS IT THE FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEMS THAT'S MAKING AN AVERAGE NIGERIAN TO BE A CORRUPT PERSON?
IS IT A SPIRITUAL ATTACK THAT WILL MAKE A MOPOL TO BE EXTORTING MONEY FROM THE MOTORIST, POLITICIANS COLLECTING BRINBES FROM THEIR CONTRACTORS, ETC....
If we have ever watched MERLIN or LEGEND OF THE SEEKER, we would realise that these western countries also believe in dark forces and they have also thread in darkness before despite accepting christianity before us in Africa.
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by musKeeto(m): 4:51pm On Apr 12, 2013
Fools....

Was what our forefathers did worse than what the Israelites did in the Old Testament?

Foolss, looads of them...
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by 12go(m): 6:06pm On Apr 12, 2013
@ the OP,it is the anointing that makes d difference.
Read your bible and see where Moses renounced a curse placed on half of the patriachs by their dad.

You should be aware of a real-life event in Ibadan where a pastor laid hands on a mad man and got afflicted with insanity.

@ enilove,nice write-up. God knows his own. Aaron,Miriam and Moses were anointed prophets but d anointing is different.

A CHRISTIAN can be in BONDAGE.
Re: Gbile Akanni Exposed The Fraud Of Mountain Of Fire In Kaduna by Candour(m): 7:18pm On Apr 12, 2013
I think we as Africans need to correct some wrong notions.Africa was called the dark continent by Europeans simply because they knew precious little about us then.Just like the dark ages in Europe were so called because learning and enlightenment was suppressed.

I thought it was only Africans that performed human sacrifices until i read up on history of some ancient European and American cultures.BBC knowledge on DSTV regularly runs documentaries on various cultures.Just watch it once and you'll know that atrocities of our forbears was child's play compared to the Caucasians we so much glorify today.The only difference is they came out of it early.

I was in the deliverance movement for 10 years plus and i didn't see the effect.Not until i changed my thinking and dealt with my fears did i start walking in the freedom i have as a new creature.Eph 6:10-18 tells us how to stand and be confident.Infact now i dont believe i was under any bondage then.i was just held bound by years of being told how powerful 'juju' is and also by my own poor decision making.It's this same poor decision making by our leaders that is plaguing the nation today and making Africans look like a bunch of schizophrenics.

Let you and i make a decision to become honest contented people who work for the good of the larger society like the Scandinavians and you'll see 'powers' and 'principalities' run out the window.At least the ones that plague our personal and national economy.

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