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I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Relax101(m): 1:37am On Nov 13, 2011
By Gabriel Enogholase, Benin
MR. Daniel Aiyanyo Omoigui, father of the Chairman, Federal Inland Revenue Service (FIRS), Mrs. Ifueko Omoigui Okarau, and former Surveyor General of the Federation, turned 80 last Thursday. In this interview on the milestone, Omoigui speaks on why students run away from mathematics and his narrow escape from death during the civil war.

He also speaks on Bakassi Peninsula, which, according to him, has never been part of Nigeria but has always belonged to Cameroun. He adds that he was forcibly retired as Director of the Federal Survey because he refused to do the bidding of a former minister that would have transferred oil wells belonging to Bendel to Ondo State.

How would you describe life at 80?

First and formost, I have to give glory and honour to God for what he has done for me. I think God has done so much for me for the past 80 years. That is my wife sitting with me here; we have been married for 53 years. Therefore, God has been very kind to me.

When I look back to those years, most of my age mates, colleagues have died; most of them did not have the opportunity of formal education, and some of them were even older than me. Therefore, when I look back, I thank God for blessing me and my family. I am now thinking of relocating back to Benin because I have been in Lagos all these years.

‘How would you describe your early school days?

I was born in the village. I did not start primary school until I was 14 years old. When I started school, I used to trek from the school, a distance of 25 kilometers on foot. Every year, precisely on May 24, we used to celebrate the Empire Day; so, to that extent, we celebrated colonialism.

Some people used to say that Nigeria getting independence from Britain was too early unlike India. There were so many good things during the colonial days; the streets were clean; the Electricity Corporation of Nigeria (ECN) was running well; the crime rate was low, etc. My parents did not go to school, but they encouraged me to go to school to learn.

What would say about your early working experience?

After my education at St. Patrick’s College Asaba in 1949, I came back to Benin- City and took a teaching appointment at Niger College, Benin, in 1950. Besides, I also read at home to prepare for my future challenges while there.In 1953, I took the entrance examination into the University College, Ibadan, passed and I took the Inter.

B.Sc examination of the University of London. I entered the University College, Ibadan to read mathematics in October of that year, but, in December, the result of the Inter. B.Sc University of London came out and I passed. Therefore, I had to move to the next class and graduated in 1957.

How would you describe the Benin- City of your days as a young man?

Benin City was a very small place compared to what it is today. The whole area where we now have the Government Reservation Area (GRA) and where I now have my house was all bush; a vast rubber plantation. Boundary Road was so-called because that was the end of the GRA. You are a graduate of Mathematics.

What would you adduce for students’ hatred for the subject?

I read mathematics at the University College, Ibadan. I can tell you that one of the reasons students run away from studying mathematics is the attitude of the teacher. There was nothing like mass education in those days; there was something about the quality of the school environment; the school buildings and the teachers. At that time, even though the teachers were few, they were well trained and disciplined.

However, government’s takeover of schools from the missionaries is part of the problem we have in our educational system today. At that time, Government Colleges were very few. We had here in Benin, Edo College and Government College, Ughelli.


MR. Daniel Aiyanyo Omoigui
The missionaries then had many good schools such as St. Gregory College; Igbobi College; CMS Grammar School; Methodist College, all in Lagos; Christ the King College Onitsha, CIC Enugu, among others. These colleges have produced Nigerians that have occupied eminent positions in the country.

Therefore, if the government had allowed the missionaries to continue to run the schools, things would have been better. Every school is a government school since the takeover. I visited a school in my village some months ago and the school is now a shadow of itself, dilapidated. My junior brother, who practises medicine in England, was a product of that school, but everything there has gone under.

How did you find yourself in the Federal Service and rose to the position of Surveyor – General of the Federation?

I joined the Federal Survey Department in 1957 in Lagos and the job took me virtually to all parts of Nigeria. In 1958, I was at the Royal Military Survey Institute, London, for further studies and I came back to Nigeria in 1959. I got married to my wife in 1958 and she came to join me in the United Kingdom in 1959.

My first son, who is a cardiologist in the United States, Dr. Nowamwangbe Omoigui, was born in London. When I returned to Nigeria, I was posted to Kiama in present Kwara State, but I had to leave my family behind at Ilorin.

From Kiama, I was posted to New Bussa because the Kainji Dam was being constructed, and from New Bussa to Nikki in Benin Republic. In 1961, I returned to London as an attaché to the Director of Overseas Survey, War Office.

I found this experience very useful later in life. On my return from London, I was posted to Lagos and made the Chief Computer Analyst at the Federal Survey Department because of my background as a mathematician.

In 1964 – 65, I was posted to do Geodesic Survey throughout the country and, because of this nomadic life, I decided to keep my family in Lagos permanently. In 1966, I was posted to Markudi to take charge as the only office outside Lagos then.

This was a very trying period in the history of the country because of the tension generated by the 1966 coup d’état. I was still in Markudi when the second coup of July, 1966 took place and there was trouble all the country. In September 1966, there was trouble in Markudi and so many people were killed.

So, what was your experience during the civil war?

I would have lost my life in Markudi if not that God used one Lt. Col. Adeniran to save our lives. At that time in Markudi, the town was essentially made up of Igbos because the Tivs were predominately farmers. Lt. Col. Adeniran gave us non-natives a platoon of soldiers that escorted us from Markudi to Lafia, then Suleija and to Jebba.

At Jebba, it was a terrible and horrible experience at the River Niger Bridge. People were asked to identify themselves. When I told them I was a Benin man, an army sergeant from Zuru who had lived in Benin came and spoke to me in Benin language
, and I replied.

That is what saved my life. After the civil war, I started the boundary demarcation of the entire country, so, my stay in London helped me a lot in this assignment. Most of the documents today on boundary demarcation were produced by my team.

Then you were involved in the demarcation of the boundary between Nigeria and Cameroun Yes. In August 12 – 14 ,1970, the first meeting of the Nigeria/Cameroun Boundary Committee took place in Beau, Yaoundé. The Nigerian delegation was led by the late Chief R.O Coker.

I was like the technical secretary to the committee. There were representatives from the Customs. Immigration, Cabinet Office in the delegation. When we came back from Yaoundé, the delegates from the External Affairs Ministry did their report to their Commissioner, the late Dr. Okoi Arikpo, who then wrote to the Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation,[b] Dr. Teslim Elias, for his opinion on the Nigeria/Cameroun boundary issue. Elias’ reply has remained a landmark legal opinion that Nigerian has no claim to Bakassi peninsula; that all we needed to do was the maritime boundary between both countries.

The General Yakubu Gowon administration followed Dr. Elias’ opinion. From 1970 -1975 when General Gowon was removed from office, I took part in the negotiations.

I have all the documents. What Gowon did then was to convene a meeting of the Supreme Military Council to brief them on the legal opinion and Col. Olusegun Obasanjo, as he then was, was the Commissioner for Works while Col. Murtala Muhammed, as he then was, was the Commissioner for Communications.

I was then the Assistant Director in charge of the Mapping Section at the Federal Survey Department and, in 1978, Chief Coker retired from the service and my colleague took over as Director of Federal Survey.

In 1979, we had a civilian administration and, in 1981, the Cameroonian gendarmes invaded Nigeria and five of our soldiers were killed. With my experience, even though not heading the maritime section, I was requested by the National Asembly to tell them the exact location where the killings took place.

I told them it was in Cameroun, east of Ekeng. Although they knew it was in the Cameroun, they started to flex muscles.[/b] When Buhari took over in 1984, he set up a task force on Nigeria’s boundary with Chad Republic and I was a member of the task force.

It was then we knew that Richard Akinjide had sought the opinion of a Cambridge Director for his opinion. I was then brought in to supervise the technical report while the main report did agree with Elias that Bakassi was in Cameroun.

The Permanent Secretary was Ambassador Edwin Dove in the External Affairs Ministry while Hamzat Ahmadu now Chairman of Leventis was the Director – General. They were aware. Chief Uffot Ekaette was the private secretary to General Gowon and he knew about the issue.

In 1984, as the Director- General of the Federal Survey, following a re-organization in the Federal Ministry of Works, I initiated the establishment of National Boundary Commission when I was told that Cameroun had established its National Boundary Commission because of the sensitive nature of the issue. The Vice President was made the Chairman because of the sensitive nature.

[b]In 1977, the Obasanjo administration set up the Justice Mamman Nasir Boundary Commission and, following its report, the boundaries of some states were changed. Part of Western Ijaw went to Rivers State, part of Bendel went to Ondo; part of Rivers went to Cross Rivers and part of Imo went to Rivers.

Because of this, some oil wells changed hands. There was an oil well in Rivers very close to Imo and I was asked to demarcate where the oil well was actually located. After the exercise, it was found that the oil well was in Rivers.

Moreover, because parts of Bendel had gone to Ondo, there were five oil wells very close to the boundary. Initially, the Ondo people wanted the royalty to be shared 50-50 because they were very close to the boundary between both states.

In 1981, a Yoruba man, who was Director of Survey, wrote to the Ministry of Finance on the issue and, after charting, it was found that the oil wells were in Bendel State. He wrote to the Ministry of Finance that the Yoruba would not take this.

He went to Lagos, met with the Director of Survey and reported that a Bini man was behind the charting. Then my Director said no, he charted it. In 1984, Bamidele Otiko became the military governor of Ondo State and came to Lagos to meet my Director. At the meeting, my Director told Otiko he was responsible for the charting.

When Chief Olu – Falae became the Secretary to the Federal Government, he directed me to write a letter that pending the resolution of the Ondo – Bendel boundary adjustment issue, they should be sharing the royalty 50 – 50. I declined to write the letter.

They then posted one Ondo man to be the permanent secretary. He was reported to have said he was posted there to do their bidding and they would call him an outcast if he did not. After reading the file, he said I should do something, on the issue and I said, ‘No, you are the permanent secretary, draft the letter and sign it.

He refused. The then Minister of Works, Alhaji Abubakar Umar, was a witness to all these. Later some people did a letter purportedly written by me. When Mamman Kantagora became the Works Minister, he told me that the Armed Forces Ruling Council (AFRC) had retired me.

That was in 1988. The following week, the then Ondo governor called a press conference and told the media that I forged the map of Ondo – Bendel States to remove oil wells from Ondo to Bendel. [/b]The newspapers that published the story were sued for libel and I made them to write apology letters.

Since I was retired, they have not carried out any survey on the Ondo – Bendel boundary issue.


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Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Relax101(m): 1:39am On Nov 13, 2011
You see how they did wuruwuru to the boundary adjustment.
No wonder there are boundary problems everywhere.

Everybody trying to claim OIL. Haba, na by force?
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Beaf: 1:58am On Nov 13, 2011
This is explosive!
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Nobody: 8:35am On Nov 13, 2011
ND/SS/Ijaw should go and claim their land back from Ondo and move it back to Benin/Delta states.The Ijaws should take their land out of Ondo.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Ufeolorun(m): 10:08am On Nov 13, 2011
And the oil obsession continues! Existence defined by oil  grin grin
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Dede1(m): 2:57pm On Nov 13, 2011
@POST

Is it not funny that the Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation, Dr. Teslim Elias was the one to decide the boundary between Nigeria and Cameroon in 1970?

Elias, Yoruba, was the Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation under Gowon when the Bakassi peninsula was ceded to Cameroon under Ahmadu Ahidjo in 1967 so that Biafra’s access to outside world through Cameroon should be blocked. What does anybody expect from Teslim Elias three years later when the civil war ended in favor of Nigeria?

If not for the crude oil and Biafra issue, one wonders what prompted Obasanjo administration to set up Justice Mamman Nasir’s Boundary Commission in 1976 when the only boundary issue was between Nigeria and Cameroon.

Again, the people of Efik in Bakassi peninsula meant absolutely nothing to Elisa, Gowon and Obasanjo as this interview had indicated.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by aljharem(m): 3:03pm On Nov 13, 2011
Dede1:

@POST

Is it not funny that the Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation, Dr. Teslim Elias was the one to decide the boundary between Nigeria and Cameroon in 1970?

Elias, Yoruba, was the Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation under Gowon when the Bakassi peninsula was ceded to Cameroon under Ahmadu Ahidjo in 1967 so that Biafra’s access to outside world through Cameroon should be blocked. What does anybody expect from Teslim Elias three years later when the civil war ended in favor of Nigeria?

If not for the crude oil and Biafra issue, one wonders what prompted Obasanjo administration to set up Justice Mamman Nasir’s Boundary Commission in 1976 when the only boundary issue was between Nigeria and Cameroon.

Again, the people of Efik in Bakassi peninsula meant absolutely nothing to Elisa, Gowon and Obasanjo as this interview had indicated.



I can remember that Elisa Teslim is a yoruba name

LOL grin grin grin grin you people are just impossible people. One day you people would choke on this your yoruba obsession o
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by aljharem(m): 3:04pm On Nov 13, 2011
chima12:

ND/SS/Ijaw should go and claim their land back from Ondo and move it back to Benin/Delta states.The Ijaws should take their land out of Ondo.

Oil Oil Oil

Now who told you that the oil in Ondo is for Ijaws ?

did they ever tell you that Ilajes or itsekiris are Ijaws ?

take a chill pilll grin grin grin
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by FACE(m): 3:21pm On Nov 13, 2011
At that time in Markudi, the town was essentially made up of Igbos because the Tivs were predominately farmers. Lt. Col. Adeniran gave us  non-natives a platoon of soldiers that escorted us from Markudi to Lafia, then Suleija and to Jebba.

At Jebba, it was a terrible and horrible experience at the River Niger Bridge. People were asked to identify themselves. When I told them I was a Benin man, an army sergeant from Zuru who had lived in Benin came and spoke to me in Benin language

"It was a horrible experience at the Niger bridge, People were asked to identify themselves".
His life was saved at the hands of Nigerian Army because he was able to speak Bini and prove tha he was not Igbo.

The unspoken bit was that "horrible things" (cold blooded murder by the Nigerian army as confirmed by Igbo returnees) were done to those who could not prove their non-Igboness.

The Lt Col knew he was sending them to their graves, otherwise, he would have sent them southwards towards Enugu. Jesus was also kissed by Judas !

On the boundary adjustment, how were they able to determine that a portion of the oil lands in Imo was in Rivers when there was no physical/natural boundary to establish a demarcation ? How did he decide that the same community (Egbema) should be split between two states because of the need to let Rivers state have some of the oil revenue from the oil wells in the community?  

The same thing happened to Abia state where the adjusted boundary went deep into Abia state (past Imo river boundary)  to cede oil to Rivers state. Abia has since recovered more than 60 oil wells from Rivers, but the bulk of the revenue still goes to Rivers.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by aljharem(m): 3:27pm On Nov 13, 2011
FACE:

His life was saved at the hands of Nigerian Army because he was able to speak Bini and prove tha he was not Igbo.

The unspoken bit was that "horrible things" (cold blooded murder by the Nigerian army as confirmed by Igbo returnees) were done to those who could not prove their non-Igboness.

The Lt Col knew he was sending them to their graves, otherwise, he would have sent them southwards towards Enugu. Jesus was also kissed by Judas !

On the boundary adjustment, how were they able to determine that a portion of the oil lands in Imo was in Rivers when there was no physical/natural boundary to establish a demarcation ? How did he decide that the same community (Egbema) should be split between two states because of the need to let Rivers state have some of the oil revenue from the oil wells in the community?  

The same thing happened to Abia state where the adjusted boundary went deep into Abia state (past Imo river boundary)  to cede oil to Rivers state. Abia has since recovered more than 60 oil wells from Rivers, but the bulk of the revenue still goes to Rivers.

I am sorry sir but the same was done to every group in Nigeria concerning the boundary adjustment

what makes the Igbo ones peculiar or different ?

Nupe kingdom was divided to between Niger and Abuja

the Igala was divided and given to anambra state

the yoruba and Ijaws were the worse hit, Yorubas were made Minorities in 2 states by IBB aka Niger and Kogi

Borgu in Niger and Okun in Kogi

Ijaws were divided into delta, balysea and rivers

etc

the division of has NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by cjfavour(m): 3:33pm On Nov 13, 2011
I CALL THIS SCRATCHING THE SURFACE. PLS PA OMOIGUI,HOW WERE THINGS B4 THE WAR? I MEAN ,WERE WAS BAKASSI IN 1960? YOU TALKED ABOUT 1970S WHAT OF 1960S? ARE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING?WITH DUE RESPECT SIR,NIGERIA DID NOT START IN 1970. WE'VE BEEN EXISTING B4 1970. so tell us again were Bakassi was situated 1960 b4 d war.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Relax101(m): 4:14pm On Nov 13, 2011
Whoever was in govt. from 1966 to 1980 did more harm to Nigeria.
Efik people meant nothing to some people.
I am suprised they had to add the northern part of Cameroun to Nigeria and give out southern Nigeria to Cameroun.
Ohh Foolish and greedy, selfish leaders!!!
Thank God Omoigui spoke it exactly the way they handled business in the past.
All because they want some people to be put in a tight corner.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by cjfavour(m): 4:40pm On Nov 13, 2011
NDs, PLS TELL ME,WHERE WAS BAKASSI BEFORE THE WAR? IN NIGERIA? IN CAMEROUN? I MEAN IN 19G0s.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Nobody: 5:31pm On Nov 13, 2011
cjfavour:

I CALL THIS SCRATCHING THE SURFACE. PLS PA OMOIGUI,HOW WERE THINGS B4 THE WAR? I MEAN ,WERE WAS BAKASSI IN 1960? YOU TALKED ABOUT 1970S WHAT OF 1960S? ARE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING?WITH DUE RESPECT SIR,NIGERIA DID NOT START IN 1970. WE'VE BEEN EXISTING B4 1970. so tell us again were Bakassi was situated 1960 b4 d war.
this is it! not beating about the surface.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Beaf: 5:50pm On Nov 13, 2011
The gentleman has done more than enough on Bakassi. He has told us that Teslim Elias erased all ambiguity about its ownership and talked instead about marine boundaries.
What more do you want the guy to say? The quote below makes it quite clear that there were problems between Nigeria and Cameroon before his time.

Then you were involved in the demarcation of the boundary between Nigeria and Cameroun Yes. In August 12 – 14 ,1970, the first meeting of the Nigeria/Cameroun Boundary Committee took place in Beau, Yaoundé. The Nigerian delegation was led by the late Chief R.O Coker.

I was like the technical secretary to the committee. There were representatives from the Customs. Immigration, Cabinet  Office in the delegation. When we came back from Yaoundé, the delegates from the External Affairs Ministry did their report to their Commissioner, the late Dr. Okoi Arikpo, who then wrote to the Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation, Dr. Teslim Elias, for his opinion on the Nigeria/Cameroun boundary issue. Elias’ reply has remained a landmark legal opinion that Nigerian has no claim to Bakassi peninsula; that all we  needed to do was the maritime boundary between both countries.

It is our govt that was so foolish that they gave the Bakassi peninsula and the Nigerian on it, away to a poorer and weaker neighbouring Cameroon. Is Cameroon not a country we can easily conquer and whose lands well beyond bakassi we can sieze if the chips are flung down?
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by aljharem(m): 6:12pm On Nov 13, 2011
Relax101:

Whoever was in govt. from 1966 to 1980 did more harm to Nigeria.
Efik people meant nothing to some people.
I am suprised they had to add the northern part of Cameroun to Nigeria and give out southern Nigeria to Cameroun.
Ohh Foolish and greedy, selfish leaders!!!
Thank God Omoigui spoke it exactly the way they handled business in the past.
All because they want some people to be put in a tight corner.

Haba henry101, it is not them

rather I put those in power around those between the 1963 to 1966

if the foundation was good, then those in 1966-1980 would have built on it, well the foundation was not good so blame the source not the latter.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Relax101(m): 6:38pm On Nov 13, 2011
alj harem:

Haba Relax101, it is not them

rather I put those in power around those between the 1963 to 1966

if the foundation was good, then those in 1966-1980 would have built on it, well the foundation was not good so blame the source not the latter.

When was the boundary adjustment made? And what led to these adjustments?
Did you in anyway read the post?
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by aljharem(m): 6:43pm On Nov 13, 2011
Relax101:

When was the boundary adjustment made? And what led to these adjustments?
Did you in anyway read the post?

Yes I read the post every single word of it.

According to you, you were saying it is greed that made Nigeria give Bakassi away but it was not.

Boundary adjustment started in 1960 not just 1966 or so are you and Dr omoguia want to put.

Boundary adjustment started way before all the so called oil wells and bakassi, rivers imo etc

that is why I said we should go to the foundation
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by macjive01: 7:00pm On Nov 13, 2011
JUST A THOUGHT , they day this country will break up, WILL IGBOS FORGET THEIR LAND IN BENUE AND ENVIRONs ?

An inadequate yoruba man wakes up one day because of his relative in power whom has afixed him a position he doesnt have the mandate, the expertise and experience to handle, carve up the country and submit the report that his oily dead brain tells him and expect the Igbos to accept that ?


sincerely the more we think about these irregularities the more it will be best to manage the country as it is , or a southern union from southern Kaduna slicing up to southern adamawa down, encompassing Abuja, Jos, down to the atlantic.

give the hausas kwara.

they yoruba wud have to give up muslim, Islam and high powered juju, - the new nation can trade muslims for christains up north in a mutual exchange.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Relax101(m): 7:18pm On Nov 13, 2011
alj harem:

Yes I read the post every single word of it.

According to you, you were saying it is greed that made Nigeria give Bakassi away but it was not.

Boundary adjustment started in 1960 not just 1966 or so are you and Dr omoguia want to put.

Boundary adjustment started way before all the so called oil wells and bakassi, rivers imo etc

that is why I said we should go to the foundation

So what is the problem?
The topic says people in govt during OBJ military ERA adjusted the boundaries so they could have some oil wells in regions where it does not exist.

The boundary between Delta, Edo, Ondo needs to be visited again.
Just looking at the map makes me wonder.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by macjive01: 7:41pm On Nov 13, 2011
^^^ so are u saying those actions are right,? constitutional ?
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by jason123: 7:47pm On Nov 13, 2011
This is a bit dull.
State boundaries are not based on ethnicity but on viability, among other factors. With that said, from the article, he said 5 oilwells were located between bendel and ondo, why not share it 50-50? Why assume that it must go to Edo or Ondo?


Relax101:

So what is the problem?
The topic says people in govt during OBJ military ERA adjusted the boundaries so they could have some oil wells in regions where it does not exist.

The boundary between Delta, Edo, Ondo needs to be visited again.
Just looking at the map makes me wonder.

There is nothing to be revisited. Any further visitation will cause more harm than good. Again, state boundaries are not based on ethnicity.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Relax101(m): 8:03pm On Nov 13, 2011
jason123:

This is a bit dull.
State boundaries are not based on ethnicity but on viability, among other factors. With that said, from the article, he said 5 oilwells were located between bendel and ondo, why not share it 50-50? Why assume that it must go to Edo or Ondo?


There is nothing to be revisited. Any further visitation will cause more harm than good. Again, state boundaries are not based on ethnicity.

I dnt understand how Ondo state would have boundary with Delta state skipping Edo state.
If not for the oil wells, what else then?
This is so much insane. I mean insane.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by aljharem(m): 8:08pm On Nov 13, 2011
Relax101:

So what is the problem?
The topic says people in govt during OBJ military ERA adjusted the boundaries so they could have some oil wells in regions where it does not exist.

The boundary between Delta, Edo, Ondo needs to be visited again.
Just looking at the map makes me wonder.

Very wrong, then I guess you did not read the articule then

Yes the Ondo edo and delta needs to revisited because if it was done based on ethni groups and oil wells then Ondo should really be twice it's size.

Bendel was a mixture of different ethnic groups of which each of them have lands, for example the Akoko people of edo state, the Ilaje people of delta state also the itsekiris of delta state

read this part just so you know it was not about oil

"Moreover, because parts of Bendel had gone to Ondo, there were five oil wells very close to the boundary. Initially, the Ondo people wanted the royalty to be shared 50-50 because they were very close to the boundary between both states.

That was in 1988. The following week, the  then Ondo governor  called a press conference and told the media that I forged the  map of Ondo – Bendel States to remove oil wells from Ondo to Bendel.  
"

so henry101, if at all there is any boundary dispute, then it should be the Ondo people fighting to have there land and oil wells back but NO, as you can see, there much to life than oil !!!!
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by aljharem(m): 8:09pm On Nov 13, 2011
thus the 5 oil wells were not given to Ondo but bendel
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Dede1(m): 8:19pm On Nov 13, 2011
alj harem:


I can remember that Elisa Teslim is a yoruba name

LOL grin grin grin grin you people are just impossible people. One day you people would choke on this your yoruba obsession o


Of course, I am aware you know Elias was Yoruba but such is not the case for many forum contributors.

Elias Teslim has been dealing in shady legal and social business before 1967-1970. He was the same Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation who brought trumped up charges of treason against Awolowo and others on behalf of his friend Tafawa Balewa in 1962.

He was behind Yakubu Gowon in 1967 when Bakassi Peninsula was ceded to Ahidjo’s Cameroon to make sure Biafra never had surface terrain to connect with the outside world.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by jason123: 8:20pm On Nov 13, 2011
Relax101:

I dnt understand how Ondo state would have boundary with Delta state skipping Edo state.
If not for the oil wells, what else then?
This is so much insane. I mean insane.

I did not get your point, however, I'd describe the situation and hopefully, it should abstractly answer your question.

Ondo shares boundaries with Delta and Edo state.
Most of the disputed oil wells have already been given to the Bendel states.

Its gonna be very difficult to create[b] strict boundaries[/b], in a once fluid boundary. For instance, some might argue that Akoko Edo should be in Edo while other will say it should be in Ondo. Some parts of Itsekiri and Ijaw land is in Ondo while there are Ilajes in Delta. Trying to reawaken the sleeping dog will do foster a healthy relationship in that area.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by aljharem(m): 8:25pm On Nov 13, 2011
Dede1:


Of course, I am aware you know Elias was Yoruba but such is not the case for many forum contributors.

Elias Teslim has been dealing in shady legal and social business before 1967-1970. He was the same Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation who brought trumped up charges of treason against Awolowo and others on behalf of his friend Tafawa Balewa in 1962.

He was behind Yakubu Gowon in 1967 when Bakassi Peninsula was ceded to Ahidjo’s Cameroon to make sure Biafra never had surface terrain to connect with the outside world.


LOL Elias timlis is not yoruba in fact the name sounds Ijaw to me.

Dede1, you know yoruba names don't you. He might then have been yorubaiszed person but needless to say how the one behind the Bakassi peninsula to cameroun.

During the war, Ojukwu wanted to turn the war to a gorilla war of which the soliders would run to cameroun and back back and fight later.

Gowon made a deal with cameroun to block the BAIFRA SOLIDERS (Not the people) from entering cameroun and in return bakassi would be given to them.

It was a sign deal and in fact I would loom for the document if I see it, and post it here.

this was in 1968 or so

then after the war, cameroun has been disturing Nigeria about the sign document.

Obj was reported to the UN and was given the ORDER to follow protocol and gave it to cameroun.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Dede1(m): 8:28pm On Nov 13, 2011
alj harem:

Oil Oil Oil

Now who told you that the oil in Ondo is for Ijaws ?

did they ever tell you that Ilajes or itsekiris are Ijaws ?

take a chill pilll grin grin grin

Why do not you ask yourself what actually necessitated the 1976 boundary adjustment if not crude oil and to make sure Igbo land is stripped of crude oil producing areas? I dislike the pretence people front on the Nairaland. The boundary adjustment was draconian in nature and did not help the issue of the silly slogan of “One Nigeria”.
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Relax101(m): 8:31pm On Nov 13, 2011
alj harem:

Very wrong, then I guess you did not read the articule then

Yes the Ondo edo and delta needs to revisited because if it was done based on ethni groups and oil wells then Ondo should really be twice it's size.

Bendel was a mixture of different ethnic groups of which each of them have lands, for example the Akoko people of edo state, the Ilaje people of delta state also the itsekiris of delta state

read this part just so you know it was not about oil

"Moreover, because parts of Bendel had gone to Ondo, there were five oil wells very close to the boundary. Initially, the Ondo people wanted the royalty to be shared 50-50 because they were very close to the boundary between both states.

That was in 1988. The following week, the  then Ondo governor  called a press conference and told the media that I forged the  map of Ondo – Bendel States to remove oil wells from Ondo to Bendel.  
"

so Relax101, if at all there is any boundary dispute, then it should be the Ondo people fighting to have there land and oil wells back but NO, as you can see, there much to life than oil !!!!



Yeah, there's much to life than oil. Hope you will travel up north to tell your brothers.
Can you please bring up the map of the midwestern region?
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Relax101(m): 8:33pm On Nov 13, 2011
jason123:

I did not get your point, however, I'd describe the situation and hopefully, it should abstractly answer your question.

Ondo shares boundaries with Delta and Edo state.
Most of the disputed oil wells have already been given to the Bendel states.

Its gonna be very difficult to create[b] strict boundaries[/b], in a once fluid boundary. For instance, some might argue that Akoko Edo should be in Edo while other will say it should be in Ondo. Some parts of Itsekiri and Ijaw land is in Ondo while there are Ilajes in Delta. Trying to reawaken the sleeping dog will do foster a healthy relationship in that area.

Jason bring up the map of midwest region?
Re: I Made Them Pay For Claiming I Removed Oil Wells From Ondo To Bendel- Omoigui by Dede1(m): 8:36pm On Nov 13, 2011
alj harem:

LOL Elias timlis is not yoruba in fact the name sounds Ijaw to me.

Dede1, you know yoruba names don't you. He might then have been yorubaiszed person but needless to say how the one behind the Bakassi peninsula to cameroun.

During the war, Ojukwu wanted to turn the war to a gorilla war of which the soliders would run to cameroun and back back and fight later.

Gowon made a deal with cameroun to block the BAIFRA SOLIDERS (Not the people) from entering cameroun and in return bakassi would be given to them.

It was a sign deal and in fact I would loom for the document if I see it, and post it here.

this was in 1968 or so

then after the war, cameroun has been disturing Nigeria about the sign document.

Obj was reported to the UN and was given the ORDER to follow protocol and gave it to cameroun.



Taslim Olawale Elias was born in Lagos, on November 11, 1914. As far as I am concerned, he was a Yoruba and could as well be the son of a returnee.

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