If you are a Muslim, I want you to clarify these passages in Qur'aan (Koran) and Hadith:

"KILL the Mushrikun (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush" (Surah 9:5)

"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture (Christians & Jews) as they believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His 'Messenger', and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low" (Surah 9:29)

"Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, but RUTHLESS to UNBELIEVERS" (Qur'aan 48:29)

"Those who reject Islam are "the vilest of creatures" and thus deserve no mercy" (Qur'aan 98:6)

"Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him" (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)

charlsecy4:

If you are a Muslim, I want you to clarify these passages in Qur'aan (Koran) and Hadith:

"KILL the Mushrikun (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush" (Surah 9:5)

"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture (Christians & Jews) as they believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His 'Messenger', and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low" (Surah 9:29)

"Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, but RUTHLESS to UNBELIEVERS" (Qur'aan 48:29)

"Those who reject Islam are "the vilest of creatures" and thus deserve no mercy" (Qur'aan 98:6)

"Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him" (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)

Your have to understand verses in terms of the context and history of the revelation:: You can't quote a verse without quoting the verse before it and the one after it to give its proper context.

Lets start with the first quote (now read everything)

1. Surah 9 (4-6)

4. [But the treaties are] not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor
aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.

5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem [of war]; but if they repent, and establish regular prayersand practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oftforgiving, Most Merciful.

6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.

The word translated as fight here is Qitaal which means essentially mutual combat: fighting people who are fighting you. Like in the case of a war. In islam, you can fight in self defence to protect yourself, loved ones and family. The early muslims had to fight to protect themselves and their nascent civilization from those who fought them.

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"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture (Christians & Jews) as they believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His 'Messenger', and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low" (Surah 9:29)

The context of this again has to be brought to focus, The muslims were permitted to combat those from the christians and the jews that fight against them. The same word Qitaal is used here, It doesn't mean attack, It means if jews and christians fight against you are permitted to fight back. The basic concept of war in islam is illustrated in the verses below:

Surah 2
190. Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not,aggressors.
191. And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecutionis worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
192. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
193. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers.

As you see in the first verses, Muslims are not permitted to begin hostilities, to start violence. God loves not aggressors. Also in the case of wars, muslims can not
1. Harm the innocent.
2. Harm the women, children, the old or animals
3. Cut down trees.

3. Your translation of the verse here is disingenuous, It does not translate as "ruthless'. You will not get ruthless Quran translation.

Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against those who reject faith and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. (Qur'aan 48:29)

This does not require explanation

4. Another disingenous translation:

Q98:6. Lo! those who reject the truth, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

This simply refers to people who after being convinced of the truth reject it. It is part of the justice of Allaah that He does not punish any people until He has first sent a warning to them and unless there is evidence against them. Allaah does not treat anybody unfairly. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [al-Israa’ 17:15].

A person who has never heard of Islam or the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and who has never heard the message in its correct and true form, will not be punished by Allaah if he dies in a state of kufr (disbelief). If it were asked what his fate will be, the answer will be that Allaah will test him on the Day of Resurrection: if he obeys, he will enter Paradise and if he disobeys he will enter Hell.

5. This does not tell the full story.

This is what the Quran states:

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error:whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy
hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." (Q 2: 256)

So in islam, there is no compulsion in religion. If he wants to convert, he is free.

Now there are certain conditions under an Islamic government where if someone converts and fights against the state, it is considered an act of treason. Most countries have the death penalty for treason.

[size=18pt]Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"? [/size]
By Huda, About.com Guide

Question: Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"?
Answer: The Qur'an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle -- i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context.
There are some specific verses that are very often "snipped" out of context, either by critics of Islam discussing "jihadism," or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.


"Slay Them" - If They Attack You First
For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter, But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful, If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.


"Fight the Pagans" - If They Break Treaties
A similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 -- which in its snipped, out of context version could read: "fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them, (as quoted above).

Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, "but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them, for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that "as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous."


Conclusion
Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in 'payback' for another people's alleged crimes.
The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Qur'an 60:7-:
"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."

http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm

@ LagosShia and co.

all these explanations makes me very curious. and what i want to ask is what are you learned Muslims doing in educating the misguided ones that are killing people mostly in the northern part of Nigeria where ignorance amongst the northern muslims is a palpable threat to non muslims who live in fear of their muslims neigbours who they do not know when next they will attack and annihilate them.  i can never condemn Islam as a Religion because i have Muslims friends who are from the south and middle belt of Nigeria. those people are a pride to the Religion.
my problem lies on the picture that the Hausas in the Northern part of Nigeria has painted about the
Religion where they kill people at a drop of a hat in the name of Islam. why i am saying this is, if a member of my religion is carrying out actions that is detrimental to others, i will not just stand by and do nothing because all of us in my religion will be held responsible. as i said before a Religion will always be judged by the actions of its followers no matter what that religion claims to stand for.

benodic:

@ LagosShia and co.

all these explanations makes me very curious. and what i want to ask is what are you learned Muslims doing in educating the misguided ones that are killing people mostly in the northern part of Nigeria where ignorance amongst the northern muslims is a palpable threat to non muslims who live in fear of their muslims neigbours who they do not know when next they will attack and annihilate them. i can never condemn Islam as a Religion because i have Muslims friends who are from the south and middle belt of Nigeria. those people are a pride to the Religion.
my problem lies on the picture that the Hausas in the Northern part of Nigeria has painted about the
Religion where they kill people at a drop of a hat in the name of Islam. why i am saying this is, if a member of my religion is carrying out actions that is detrimental to others, i will not just stand by and do nothing because all of us in my religion will be held responsible. as i said before a Religion will always be judged by the actions of its followers no matter what that religion claims to stand for.

i am not the minister of education and youth development.

the only advice i can present to you as a Christian is for you to advice your Christian brothers especially the fanatical and intolerant ones both your leaders in CAN and the ordinary foot preacher who want to convert Muslims and take advantage of their illiteracy to stop exploiting the poor and uneducated. If the Muslim is educated like myself, there is no way the biggest head or spirit in all of Christianity can make me leave Islam and convert to Christianity and make me carry that book called “bible”. it is just not possible.

the boko haram mess even though their action is unjustified, they use the excuse that "western education" is forbidden. in Islam, there is nothing forbidden in western education, if western education means studying western languages like English or French and getting knowledge of the sciences like math and physics. “western education" can only become forbidden when the missionary Christian abuse education to convert others in the name of educating them. We saw recently in osun state, in our own backyard in the south-west and in yorubaland, how Muslim students were beaten by a Christian missionary teacher for wearing hijab to school and the other teacher called the police to arrest another student for the same hijab. we also saw your fanatical leaders in CAN staging premeditated and planned assault against Islamic banking and leaving no stone unturned to display their ignorance, intolerance, fanaticism and hate.

i believe when and where there is distrust, it is a two way thing. Even myself as a Muslim, when i visit the north, i try to behave myself and take extra caution with those who have religious zeal but are uneducated and illiterates. such people are next to beasts. They don’t have knowledge. And as humans what makes us special is the use of our brain and thinking right. When these people lack knowledge even of their own religion which is Islam, then they are driven by traditions and feelings and their semi-literate leaders who would also exploit them for political or other gains.

i believe as a country, the government should put in more effort to educate these northerners. More schools should be opened. Since they are mostly Muslims, you can even use religion to lure them into schools. Let their schools teach them Islamic studies in English. if these people can understand English well, half of the problem is resolved. You can’t communicate with them in Hausa and they also will not study Yoruba in the north. so English is the solution. The north is an area where even pigeon is not very common.

charlsecy4:

If you are a Muslim, I want you to clarify these passages in Qur'aan (Koran) and Hadith:

"KILL the Mushrikun (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush" (Surah 9:5)

"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture (Christians & Jews) as they believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His 'Messenger', and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low" (Surah 9:29)

"Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, but RUTHLESS to UNBELIEVERS" (Qur'aan 48:29)

"Those who reject Islam are "the vilest of creatures" and thus deserve no mercy" (Qur'aan 98:6)

"Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him" (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)

Do not mind these LIARs , they cannot help Lying each time you ask them a valid question about their violent Quran.

Here are some more 'peaceful ' quotes from the Quran.

Darkness was about to descend upon Islam. Ishaq:461 "Just before the noon prayers, Gabriel came to the Apostle wearing a gold turban. He was riding a mule. He said, 'Have you laid down your weapons and stopped fighting, Muhammad.' 'Yes.' he replied. Gabriel said, 'The angels have not laid down their arms! I've just returned from pursuing the enemy. Allah commands you to march to the Qurayza. I, too, will attack the Jews and shake them out of their homes.'" Angels in turbans, lumbering on donkeys, wielding swords, commanding Arabs to slaughter Jews - it's quite a picture.


"The Holy Prophet (peace be unto him) said, 'No one should pray the afternoon prayer until they are in the territory of the Qurayza because warfare against the Jews is incumbent upon Muslims.'" Ishaq:461 "The Muslims had been totally occupied with warlike preparations. They refused to pray until they had come upon the Jews in accordance with Muhammad’s order. Allah did not find fault with them in His Book, nor did the Messenger reprimand them for it." Postponing a prayer so that they could besiege innocent families was so religious of them. They were setting a fine example for terrorists everywhere. And it's pretty hard to misinterpret this prophetic decree: "Warfare against the Jews is incumbent upon Muslims."

the only advice i can present to you as a Christian is for you to advice your Christian brothers especially the fanatical and intolerant ones both your leaders in CAN and the ordinary foot preacher who want to convert Muslims and take advantage of their illiteracy to stop exploiting the poor and uneducated. If the Muslim is educated like myself, there is no way the biggest head or spirit in all of Christianity can make me leave Islam and convert to Christianity and make me carry that book called “bible”. it is just not possible.

Lol.

ISLAM must be worried, seriously scared that as Al Jazeerah stated millions of black Africans are fleeing that horrible ISLAM for the peace and love in Christ.

If ISLAM is the truth, surely it can stand and defend the truth by itself, right ?

No.

Islam is a LIE, it uses scare tactics, threats, manipulations and even the BIBLE ( ) to justify and consolidate it's position.

Remove the threat of apostasy and millions will leave ISLAM right now.

In all, every religion, true or false, attempts to justify its actions, good or bad.

frosbel:


Lol.

ISLAM must be worried, seriously scared that as Al Jazeerah stated millions of black Africans are fleeing that horrible ISLAM for the peace and love in Christ.

If ISLAM is the truth, surely it can stand and defend the truth by itself, right ?

No.

Islam is a LIE, it uses scare tactics, threats, manipulations and even the BIBLE ( ) to justify and consolidate it's position.

Remove the threat of apostasy and millions will leave ISLAM right now.

dont forget your whip,that i use to flog you with anytime you open your trash mouth:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-739943.0.html

@ LagosShia

thanks for your reply. Point of correction, i am not a Christian. I am a member of ECKANKAR, Religion of the Light and Sound of God whose foundation is built on loving all life.

From what i could conclude from your reply there is pretty nothing much you educated Muslims can do about the murderous nature of non educated ignorant Muslims as you too are under threat from them.
That means that we are on our own and we guys that are still living in the northern part of Nigeria will have to keep looking over our shoulder and praying to God to keep us save from those that will not think twice about killing us in the name of a religion.

Remain blessed

LagosShia:

dont forget your whip,that i use to flog you with anytime you open your trash mouth:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-739943.0.html

I am not here to win or lose debates, I can care less either way.

My main purpose when writing about ISLAM is to reveal the TRUTH about it's Prophet and Scriptures.

ISLAM means Zilch to me, I do not bat an eyelid because of it. But my prayer is that those who are ensnared by it's lies and deceptive methods are delivered.

In another article , we already have 3 Muslims doubting their faith and hopefully to leave very soon.

ISLAM to me means DEATH and IGNORANCE , no use to me at all.

So carry on winning

tbaba1234:


Q98:6. Lo! those who reject the truth, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

This simply refers to people who after being convinced of the truth reject it. It is part of the justice of Allaah that He does not punish any people until He has first sent a warning to them and unless there is evidence against them. Allaah does not treat anybody unfairly. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [al-Israa’ 17:15].

A person who has never heard of Islam or the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and who has never heard the message in its correct and true form, will not be punished by Allaah if he dies in a state of kufr (disbelief). If it were asked what his fate will be, the answer will be that Allaah will test him on the Day of Resurrection: if he obeys, he will enter Paradise and if he disobeys he will enter Hell.

Your explanation sound logical, but the question is what is the truth in the bold and who are the people of the Scripture?

TrueSeeker:

Your explanation sound logical, but the question is what is the truth in the bold and who are the people of the Scripture?

The truth is sincerely submitting to the will of God on his terms (Islam).

The people of the scriptures refers to those who received scriptures before us, i.e the jews and the christians.

frosbel:



I am not here to win or lose debates, I can care less either way.

My main purpose when writing about ISLAM is to reveal the TRUTH about it's Prophet and Scriptures.

ISLAM means Zilch to me, I do not bat an eyelid because of it. But my prayer is that those who are ensnared by it's lies and deceptive methods are delivered.

In another article , we already have 3 Muslims doubting their faith and hopefully to leave very soon.

ISLAM to me means DEATH and IGNORANCE , no use to me at all.

So carry on winning

the blind cannot guide the seeing.

you can keep creating fake usernames on nairaland and convert them to christianity.its all about how much you can lie and deceive to mislead others.if i were like you,i can also claim 300 (not 3) who are leaving christianity.

LagosShia:

the blind cannot guide the seeing.

you can keep creating fake usernames on nairaland and convert them to christianity.its all about how much you can lie and deceive to mislead others.if i were like you,i can also claim 300 (not 3) who are leaving christianity.

Of what benefit is it to me , to create a username and claim to have converted as a Muslim.

Sorry that is not what  true Christians do, Jihadists might lie their way to spread deception, in Christianity it is forbidden.

In fact the bible states that ALL LIARS will have their part in the lake of fire.

Keep deceiving yourself.

I predict a major worldwide event will happen in the near future , of such cataclysmic proportions , that Muslims will flee ISLAM in their millions even if it means DEATH.

frosbel:


Of what benefit is it to me , to create a username and claim to have converted as a Muslim.

Sorry that is not what  true Christians do, Jihadists might lie their way to spread deception, in Christianity it is forbidden.

In fact the bible states that ALL LIARS will have their part in the lake of fire.

Keep deceiving yourself.

I predict a major worldwide event will happen in the near future , of such cataclysmic proportions , that Muslims will flee ISLAM in their millions even if it means DEATH.

dat sounds like wat dajjal(some call him anti-christ) would want. He would surely come at a time when the world would already be full of mischief. Arent u surprised that the whole world seem against Islam and people like you are now so many. the practices of Islam seem so foreign, sound to you as old-fashioned. They only show the world is coming to an end. And you would have been warned. But would you ever yield??

@ Lagosia Isn't God a God of Yesterday, today and tomorrow? Why would He(even though He did'nt)reveal such a verse that would confuse people and lead them into killing people?

4Forty: @ Lagosia Isn't God a God of Yesterday, today and tomorrow? Why would He(even though He did'nt)reveal such a verse that would confuse people and lead them into killing people?

just the way people worship idols,eat pork while their bible says not to,believe God killed "his son" and made human sacrifice,e.t.c.

@Tbaba1234

On point 1
You are correct, according to earlier verses, if the Pagans turn to dishonor the treaty, Muslims were commanded to kill them as reported in Surah 9:4 “Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islâmic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikûn (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât, then leave their way free. Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

On point 2
You have not shown that the wars of Islam was/is defensive. Consider this hadith:
"I have been ordered by God to fight with people till they bear testimony to the fact that there is no God but Allah and that Mohammed is his messenger, and that they establish prayer and pay Zakat (money). If they do it, their blood and their property are safe from me" ( Bukhari Vol. I, p. 13).

Here it is very clear that the nature of the war is offensive. The way most people came into Islam in it early years was mostly through force, threat, and pain of death. Consider how Abu Sufyan was converted as contained in the biography of Mohammed by Ibn Kathir: “When Muhammad and his followers were about to attack Mecca to subjugate it to Islam, his adherents arrested Abu Sufyan, one of Mecca’s inhabitants. They brought him to Muhammad. Muhammad told him: "Woe to you, O Abu Sufyan. Is it not time for you to realize that there is no God but the only God?" Abu Sufyan answered: "I do believe that." Muhammad then said to him: "Woe to you, O Abu Sufyan. Is it not time for you to know that I am the apostle of God?" Abu Sufyan answered: "By God, O Muhammad, of this there is doubt in my soul." The ’Abbas who was present with Muhammad told Abu Sufyan: "Woe to you! Accept Islam and testify that Muhammad is the apostle of God before your neck is cut off by the sword." Thus he professed the faith of Islam and became a Muslim.” Ibn Kathir, "The Prophetic Biography", part 3, p. 549, and "The Beginning and the End"

On point 3
“this does not require explanation”
It requires explanation; what does stern, hard etc mean? Does it also mean ruthless or what?pls more explanation.


On point 4
No comment

On point 4

So in islam, there is no compulsion in religion. If he wants to convert, he is free.

Consider this hadith

Bukhari, volume 9, #17

"Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
Is Islam really from God?

Pls, note "and the one who reverts from Islam(Apostate)"