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Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by snthesis(m): 9:55pm On Nov 29, 2011 |
just watched National Geographic and the lost City of Atlantis came up (yea hed abt it b4 ) sumtin clicked dis tyme around though- according to d documentary, Atlantis was an ancient advanced civilization much more advanced than we are right now, unfortunately for the Atlanteans their city was destroyed by water and never again seen. an Eureka moment came again (yep, ive been drinking again )- a similar story, Noah's Ark, similar story line, and for the "logical" people it would make more sense if you place d existing world as Atlantis, as such it was easier for Noah to build the Ark, gather all the living Species, and for the world ( the City of Atlantis) to be destroyed by water. watya think |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by snthesis(m): 11:52pm On Dec 03, 2011 |
hmmm!!!! a lot of loopsided peeps in hia- no free thinkers |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Jenwitemi(m): 2:22pm On Dec 04, 2011 |
Rubbish connection. Atlantis was way before Noah's time. Way way before. snthesis: |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Joagbaje(m): 8:06pm On Dec 04, 2011 |
The story of the so called lost world and it's flood happened before the time of Noah, even before Adam was created . There was a pre adamite world which lucifer headed. It was destroyed at their rebellion by flood. |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by PastorKun(m): 8:25pm On Dec 04, 2011 |
^^^ @joagbaje You are a disgrace to the office of a christian pastor with this kind of un verifiable claims you continuously make. Where did you get your facts from on the above assertions? Rapshody of fakealities |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by snthesis(m): 11:47pm On Dec 04, 2011 |
Joagbaje: d first man that was created was Adam- so i dnt get ur point Jenwitemi: when? |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Joagbaje(m): 12:54am On Dec 05, 2011 |
^ I will give details tomorow |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Jasiel(f): 9:58am On Dec 05, 2011 |
Waiting for your details pastor j. Atlantis has always intrigued me. Why is pastor kun always picking on you? |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by PastorKun(m): 5:28pm On Dec 05, 2011 |
@Jasiel I pick on Joagbaje regularly because he is a manipulator of the gospel. He regularly spreads a poisonous gospel and he needs to be put in check. |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by aletheia(m): 5:45pm On Dec 05, 2011 |
Pastor Kun:^Dake's Annotated Reference Bible. . .though I wouldn't go so far as calling them "facts". |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by snthesis(m): 9:11am On Dec 06, 2011 |
patiently waiting |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by BroPee: 6:14am On Dec 07, 2011 |
Joagbaje: What? |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Joagbaje(m): 7:46pm On Dec 07, 2011 |
Jasiel: I'm his obsession, he likes me but doesn't know how to express it |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Jasiel(f): 7:51pm On Dec 07, 2011 |
U ehn. Oya start the story of atlantis. I'm really interested |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Joagbaje(m): 9:04pm On Dec 07, 2011 |
^^^^ Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. This verse makes reference to a dateless past. Millions of years or more. It was a perfect world of civilisation. With its solar system. Lucifer who is now Satan was the ruler of that world. He was also an arch angel in heaven . When lucifer rebelled against God , he lost his place and the rebellious world he led and corrupted was destroyed by flood. The flood destroyed not only the earth but also the solar system. Isaiah 14:12 12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15Yet thou shalt be brought down That was what made the earth void in verse 2 of Genesis 1. The foot note of The NIV translation makes us to know that the earth became void. The earth was not created empty and void it became empty and void. So there's a wide gap of millions of years between verse 1 and 2 . It's refered to by many scholars as the gap theory. The book of Jeremiah throws more light on what transpired. You can compared Jeremiah with genesis vs 2 Genesis 1:2 2 And the earth was without form, and [b]void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Jeremiah 4:23 23I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. This explains why there was no light,birds and ,man. It is believed that the men who existed those days are the brings who became demons now by scholars. That's why theydesperately love to dwell in human bodies so as to express themselves since they've lost their own bodies. One of the facts we should not forget are the fossil evidence of the pre historic animals such as dinosaurs etc. their remains dates millions of years old by radio carbon dating. The reason the church was denying these at first was the fact that from Adam creation to our time is just about 6,000 years . They felt it would negate the creation story . True science confirms the bible. Those animals did not exist in the bible days. If they existed millions of years ago ,there must have been a world of human .And most of there researches proves that that world must have been destroyed by a flood. This was not the flood of Noah, because the flood of Noah only affected the earth and not the heavens (starry galaxy )Peter made reference to this. 2 Peter 3:6-7 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. So what we have from Gen 1:3 is a re creation. Water of the flood covered the deep and God began to separate water from the dry ground . It is the re creation which took six days. Exodus 20:11 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. It is portrayed as our origin because it is the beginning of our human race in the image of God. |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Jasiel(f): 9:09pm On Dec 07, 2011 |
Wow! But is that it? I expected an epic story. Thanks pastor J |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 9:31pm On Dec 07, 2011 |
Joagbaje: Not bad - there indeed was a world preceding the creation of man - most Christians do not understand 6-7 day creation in the literal sense |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by snthesis(m): 11:11am On Dec 12, 2011 |
i beg to disagree- all wat uve quoted is heresay- from ur imagination, too many holes, its just like mixing white rice with oil and then sum1 calls it jollof rice. you say the heavens and earth were initially destroyed and later rebuilt from scratch- haba!!! dat doesnt make sense. you say d existing peeps didnt die but were turned to demons- jst like dat- na so e easy!!! peter was refering to the Floods of Noah- cos that is wat his ancestors recorded. P.s stop smoking that stuff- [quote][/quote] |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Joagbaje(m): 5:08pm On Dec 12, 2011 |
snthesis: Read the scriptures I quoted again you say d existing peeps didnt die but were turned to demons- jst like dat- na so e easy!!! They died . You must know that man is a spirit and not just a body. They died but their spirits lives on. Spirits don't die. Many African old hunters tell tales of beings they see in jungles where nobody lives . There are more demons on earth than our population . They have human attributes and not angelic attribute. Angels dont enter human bodies . They don't need it. But demons have lost their own bodies so they desperately look for human body to enter. Thousands of them can cramp into one body. peter was refering to the Floods of Noah- cos that is wat his ancestors recorded. The flood of Noah didn't destroy solar system. Water only covered the earth. But the pre adamite flood destroyed the starry heavens and earth. It cause darkness to cover the earth. |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by snthesis(m): 9:36am On Dec 13, 2011 |
as i stated before the scriptures you quoted in regards to the world destroyed refers to the great flood. Angels and Demons are both Spirit being which means they do not have Bodies- d difference between an angel and a demon is one rebelled and fell from the sight of God. in otherwords Demons were formerly Angels and reside were the Present Angels reside- the world that you claimed was destroyed doesnt exist, otherwise Angels would also have been rendered Homelless. back to the creation of the World- God defines the way he operates in 2 Peter 3:8 -"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." applying this to the text in Genesis- i.e the creation of the world in 6days, you can logically conclude for yourselves. the major point of the 6 day creation shows the different phases by which God created the earth- sortof like a Milestone. each Milestone was referred to as a day. the lenght of that day is left for you to fathom. this is another reason why the evolutionist feel we evolve from microbes blablabla, wen obviously the chronological other of events is shown in the bible for all to read. |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Joagbaje(m): 7:50am On Dec 14, 2011 |
1.A day with the lord/ a thousand years is not talking about creation. He was talking about the delay of the rapture. 2 Peter 3:8-9 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us- ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2.Ask yourself this? Did the flood of Noah affect heavenly bodies? Like other other planets? No. But this lucifer an flood did.Heaven lost its lights. God had to recreate solar system Jeremiah 4:23 23I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. 2 Peter 3:7 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 3.The fosill evidence and archeological findings of pre historic animals such as Dinosaurs etc. dates millions of years. They were not part of the animals in Eden. Which is just about 6,000 years ago. |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by ochukoccna: 1:08pm On Dec 14, 2011 |
I don't know if it's Atlantis but a pre Adamic world existed which got destroyed following satan's rebellion. Between Gen1:1-2 is a great time span&1:3 is really a recreation preceding man's creation The bible is simply the story of mankind's fall&a loving God's redemption Let's stick with&leave it @ that till when this age ends& God reveals the mysteries the bible is silent about If God wanted us to know about Atlantis,bible 4 talk am |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by aletheia(m): 2:19pm On Dec 14, 2011 |
Was There A World Before Genesis 1? No. Nothing new under the sun. The age which one prescribes for the earth is extremely dependent on one's view of creation. There are five major theories on the interpretation of the six days of creation. 1. The pictorial day theory claims that the six days mentioned in Genesis are the six days in which God revealed to Moses the events of creation. But the bible relates the creation as clearly, simply, and historically as it does other events. To interpret the text in this manner requires the abandonment of all exegetical principles. 2. The gap view claims that Genesis 1:1 describes and original creation which was followed by the fall of Satan and great judgment. Genesis 1:2 is then supposed to be a description of the recreation or restoration that took place. The Old Scofield Bible [Also Dake's Bible] maintains that the condition of the earth in verse two is the result of judgment, and therefore interprets the verb "hayah" as "became". However the Hebrew construction of verse two is disjunctive, describing the result of the creation described in verse one. The phrase "without form and void" is often misunderstood because of this rendering. These words are found only in a few other places (Is 34:11; 45:18; Jer 4:23). They do not describe chaos but rather emptiness and so would mean "unformed and unfilled". Exodus 20:11 teaches that all the universe, including the heavens and the earth, was created in the six day period mentioned in Genesis 1. 3. The intermittent view claims that the days mentioned are literal days, but that they were separated by long periods of time. This view is in direct contradiction of Exodus 20:11 and conveniently ignores the recurring phrase: "And the evening and the morning. . ." which describes the passage of the six days. 4. The day-age theory claims that the word "yom" which is the Hebrew word for "day" is used to refer to periods of indefinite length, not to literal days. While this is a viable meaning of the word, it is not the common meaning, nor is the meaning of the word sufficient foundation for the theory. Moreover it ignores the clearly stated meaning of Exodus 20:11. The phrase "And the evening and the morning" indicates literal days (cf. Daniel 8:14, where the same phrase in Hebrew is translated "day" 5. The literal day view accepts the clear meaning of the text: the universe was created in six literal days. The various attempts to join together the biblical account of creation and evolution are not supportable even by the various gap theories. God of His own will and by His absolute power called the universe into being, creating it out of nothing (Ex 20:11; Ps 33:6, 9; 102:25; Is 45:12; Jer 10:12; John 1:3; Acts 14:15; 17:24; Rom 4:17; Col 1:15-17; Heb 3:4; 11:3; Rev 4:11). When one acknowledges the absolute power of God, he must accept His power to create and destroy as stated in the Scriptures. The believer must accept these things by faith. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. I believe the world was created in six days because God said so. nlemonwu A:Water was created in the beginning. Where in the text does it suggest that water was not created in Genesis 1:1, unless you are adding your preconceptions and making the text say what it does not. Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. nlemonwu A: Again you interpolate your own presuppositions. What does the scripture itself say: Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. What is the meaning of the word replenish as used by the translators of the KJV? Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English]ReplenishYes. Ezekiel 28:13-15 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. (14) Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. (15) Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Joagbaje(m): 4:11pm On Dec 14, 2011 |
ochukoccna: Thank you |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by Joagbaje(m): 4:13pm On Dec 14, 2011 |
For More: http://www.kjvbible.org/satan.html |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by snthesis(m): 10:46am On Dec 15, 2011 |
Joagbaje is confused @topic we know hw easily true life stories become folktales, with each generation/religion adding a twist. the question which i asked is could the tale of atlantis be a spinoff the Flooding that occurred during Noahs. a number of pointers 1. The people during Noah period were really advanced-Modern archaleogist also point to the fact that Atlanteans were an advanced civilization 2. In Both stories the city/World was destroyed by water. 3. Logically it would make more sense if all Noah had to do was pick up all d existing species on the Island. |
Re: Lost City Of Atlantis And Noah's Ark by tpia5: 5:08am On Dec 29, 2013 |
op i dont get your question. are you asking if the world in noah's flood was atlantis? |
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