daniela86:

nairalanders, i need your advice. I have a girlfriend who is giving me serious pressure that she me to marry her. She is from Latvia.  I told her from the begining of our friendship that i dont have paper O, and she insist marrying me. Now she want to marry me. and i'm scared. but my main concern is she has once married in 2006 but she told me it was a contract marriage then between him and a pakistan woman, but the pakistan guy has returned to pakistan finally and never allowed to return from pakistan, so he gets hooked in paki.   My girlfriend is now worried how she get divorce, but she has prove that they've been seperate for 2 years, and normaly i think its 4 years. Pls i need your advice. What do u think we can do to get married legally? And Do u think i'm safe? She lives in republic of ireland, i lives in belfast, but we have decided to live together and i will be moving with her in few weeks.  But i need your advice, ideas about this marriage issue. She even told me that we should go to Nigeria and get married there, but i told him that her country embassy will rea;ize that she's already married with a paki man in ireland. Now she start crying all over again because she's desperate to marry me. 
The main point is she is ready to marry me legally so i can have my paper too, but her divorce issue with the pakistan man in pakistan is blocking us. And she has sent a document to the pakistani man in pakistan to sign and send mabck with some document, but the man claim it will cost him money. She sent money to him, but this pakistan man pocket the money and change his number. WHAT DO WE DO PLS?

llbhuds:

Its possible to get married to her provided you take her out of ireland and take her to another eu country . I am saying this cos I know a friend that did this with a british lady. But if you remain in ireland, gettin married to her might land u guys in wahala cos I believe her 1st marriage would had been registered in ireland. Also, if she had registerd her 1st married in her country,it will be impossible for her to get her single certificate in her country, so if eventually u get married with her,u cant go nd register your marriage in latvia.
look for a new girl cos she will later land u in big wahala, Bliv me.

europe76:

@ Vckjustice, maybe he is refering to Mali and Bangladesh

daniela86:

So, you mean since she don marry in Ireland with paki man in 2006, we can move to UK and got married there. And u think it will not show for UK that she don marry another person before??

llbhuds:

When u get married u are given a certificate and u later go nd register dis marriage in d imiga of that country. your finger print is not taken cos no b aduro u dey chop nd der are thousands of peeps who answer dsame name like u in this world,provided d country u get married wont contact your parrtner's country to confirm if she is single or not (germany nd denmark does this) then no country is gonna be aware.
its hard to blive but im tellin u from what I know and had seen more than 5 different peeps doing it:
For the fact that no one know who writes what is not an avenue for us to say rubbish here.
im damn serious guys.
@poster u can go to spain nd get married to her. (expo)

llbhuds:

When u get married u are given a certificate and u later go nd register dis marriage in d imiga of that country. your finger print is not taken cos no b aduro u dey chop nd der are thousands of peeps who answer dsame name like u in this world,provided d country u get married wont contact your parrtner's country to confirm if she is single or not (germany nd denmark does this) then no country is gonna be aware.
its hard to blive but im tellin u from what I know and had seen more than 5 different peeps doing it:
For the fact that no one know who writes what is not an avenue for us to say rubbish here.
im damn serious guys.
@poster u can go to spain nd get married to her. (expo)

Vicjustice:

   Man, please, please! You are not making any sense here, Are you talking about Europe and yet coming with these ridiculous ideas?
   When an EU citizen is getting married in any European country, the person is made to declare (by official documents in most countries) that s/he does not have any impediments that would make it illegal to marry; and if however the person managed to get away with it by making false declarations, the chance that s/he will be caught in the future is 99.9%, and you know what that means: the marriage is doomed.
   It is a different thing if a person is married before in Nigeria (like many Nigerians are), and then remarries as though s/he is single: this is because, Nigeria does not have such authentic database, thus making it easy for anyone to fake any thing with any desired status. But in Europe, it is different, absolutely and strictly different.
   And, regarding your point that thousands of people have same names around the world, now, do these people also have same Date Of Birth and Personal/National Security Numbers? Absolutely NO. If you live in Europe, you would know that European authorities do not really identify people by their given names, they identify individuals by their Date Of Births and ultimately by their Personal Identification Numbers/Codes.
   You also suggested that he moves to Spain and get legally married there, how can he do that, by hiding on the back of a Lorry, and besides, is Spain not in the EU?
   Please, don't be too funny.

Davedavy:

@ Poster
it is impossible,you cant marry anybody that is already legally married within the EU.

marriage requirements in Spain for foreigners:

Civil Marriages

Applications and/or Documents Required: Bring along original copies of the following:

Application Form: This form can be obtained from the Civil Registry or District Court. It should be signed by both bride and groom and include their full names, occupations, places of residence, and the citizenship of the couple and their parents.

Birth Certificate: The original document is mandatory. If you were not born in Spain, you should submit the document with an "apostille," an official international seal verifying a document for use outside its country of origin. (If you live outside of Spain, you should also have a Spanish translation of the certificate made and authenticated by the Spanish Consulate or Embassy nearest your place of residence. If you are in Spain, the certificate must be translated into Spanish by an official translator.)

Proof Both Parties Are Free to Marry: (Fe de Solteria y Vida) Civil Registries have a document for this purpose that can be signed when presenting the rest of the documents.

If previously married, you must submit proof that the marriage has ended. Certified documents which originated outside Spain must be accompanied by an apostille and Spanish translations.

Certificate of Residence: Legal residents of Spain can obtain a certificate of residence at no charge from the Tenencia de Alcaldía in their district of residence. (First confirm that you are registered with the Censo). Foreigners who are temporary residents of Spain or have lived here less than two years may complete an affidavit regarding their place of residence before a consular officer.

Posting of Banns: After the judge has accepted all the documentation required, banns are posted for a period of fifteen days prior to the marriage ceremony. Banns are a public announcement that a couple plans to marry, giving any knowledgeable citizen (such as another wife) an opportunity to object.

After you have assembled these documents and the ceremony is performed, the marriage is then recorded in the Civil Registry and a Spanish marriage certificate is issued.

Religious Marriages

Couples will need to first obtain authorization from the Civil Authorities by presenting the documents listed under "Civil Marriages".

Spanish law recognizes Catholic, Protestant, Islamic and Jewish marriages as valid in Spain without the need of a second civil marriage. Regulations may vary depending on the religious denomination.
For Catholic marriages, the arrangements generally take from one to three weeks. The following documents must be presented to the priest performing the ceremony:

Birth certificate: Spanish translation is required.

Baptismal certificate: This must be issued within the six month period prior to your wedding, and authenticated by the issuing Bishop. A Spanish translation must be attached.
Proof Both Parties Are Free to Marry (Fe de Solteria y Vida).

After a religious ceremony, you have one week to present the church-issued certificate to the nearest civil registry. The marriage is NOT recognized in Spain if you fail to register.


The requirements in most of the Eu countries are the same,to get married in most of the EU countries,you need a certificate of no impediment.

dalebutt1:

@ OP, its possible, you can re-marry illegally. like the uk you its fairly easy to get the marriage done in the UK , say for example you want to marry in the UK in the church of england you do not need a certificate of no impediment or anything, the church just need to print notice i think for 28 days and see if anyone would come up with a reason why you should not be joined with your spouse.

But its a criminal offence so why try it? its bigamy on her part and you could go down aswel conspiring to bigamy. do not get involve until you are sure the previous marriage is legally dissolved, conspiring to comit a crime attracts greater penalty than the actual crime dude. From your post it seems your lady is not in contact with her ex, in Ireland the law require both party to have lived apart for four out of the last 5 years, if you can prove that then that's the 1st step ahead,

Secondly she has to serve a divorce paper on her ex and if he fails to respond to the notice it doesnt stop the divorce from proceeding in court.

COPIED: Regardless of their reponse the divorce can proceed through the stages to the final Court Hearing stage at which point the decision to grant or deny the divorce will be made by a family law judge.
If the respodent ignores the papers you will need to serve a 14 Day Warning Notice, Affidavit of Service of such notice and in some cases a Grounding Affidavit. If the repondent objects to the divorce on particular grounds, they then will be required to return the documentation within a particular time frame declaring the grounds under which they are contesting.

Not all foreign divorces are recognised under Irish law. A foreign divorce will only be recognised in Ireland if at least one spouse was domiciled in the state that granted the divorce when the proceedings started. You may have to provide good evidence that this was the case and, therefore, that the divorce is valid under Irish law.

Where the divorce comes within EU regulations, it is sufficient to confirm that both parties to the divorce were notified of the proceedings and had an opportunity to give evidence to the court which granted the divorce.

Me: In cases like this, it is best to always seek a legal advise at all times, you cannot rely on our opinions on a public forum. google and see if there are cheap or rather free consultation lawyers and you can discuss your case with an experienced family law specialist. if anything becareful with your final decision dont rush and dont be too sluggish with it. Goodluck to you.

dalebutt1:

@JW, yes he didnt reveal any of those, but i assume if the marriage was busted or had been discovered to be sham already then I suspect the marriage would be void ab initio, and this would put the op in a very bad position if he went ahead with the marriage because he will face serious scrutiny in the hands of the INIS who in the first place doesn't like Nigerians. I hope am wrong i suspect the lady is just heading into another sham with our brother.

SHAM marriage is not a good thing

dalebutt1:

GIGGLES!! well that's funny because she wouldnt in as much as its the right/smart thing to do , but in the world of sham, they are both lucky they aint behind bars already. I think the OP should stay clear of this lady before he by himself hands over himself to the immigration

justwise:

One thing the poster did not tell us is why did the man went back to Pakistan? Could it be that immigration busted the sham marriage and he ran away? Could it be that he is married now in Pakistan even without ending the marriage with the Latvian woman ?

kennybuda:

The problem is from the girl, asuming she get her marriage redisterd in her home country it could have been easy for her to devorce her pakistan husband in her home country. At poster if your future wife can get her mariage redisterd in latvia it could be easy for her to get her devorce in her home country cheers

justwise:

Well, .its the law of the juggle then, the man may decide to stress her more, i find it very strange that the man went back to Pakistan after paying for marriage with the hope of getting a stay in the UK. There must be something behind the whole 'sham-deal'

kennybuda:

@xxcarolxx pls this is pakistan issue the world is reading, although some europeans are doing same trick to settle their Bottom in usa and australia.

xxcarolxx:
Believe me i don't have anything against nigerians,