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Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by ortopazz(m): 7:21pm On Dec 27, 2011
U see the most annoying piece of this stupid jigsaw, is when these men come out and condemn what they are aware of! I MEAN for christ sake no mosque? No moslem/muslim if you like, yet we christened the gays saints of the black cloak.

I dont see how in any way these their comments will bring about a reasonable compensation those battered and bruised hearts.

I feel very terrible 4 those victims.

God bless their souls.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by zangality(m): 7:31pm On Dec 27, 2011
There is no verses of the noble Quran that says innocents Xtians and Jews should be murdered.U can get a copy and u will be convinced,
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by ortopazz(m): 7:36pm On Dec 27, 2011
And furthermore whats more disheartening, is that after every bomb, or fire incident, that word is repeated.

For the love of christ, the word CONDEMÑ should be banned in entirety, I mean johnathan condemn,
patience condemn,
sambo, condemn,
christianz, condemn,
media, condemn,
children r condemning,
I mean, even imams for christ sake r stil using that catch phrase CONDEMN, after police, army, N.L.GUARADS wil stil condemn.

Pls letz change that word.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by ortopazz(m): 7:45pm On Dec 27, 2011
Itz gettin outta hand.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by ortopazz(m): 7:53pm On Dec 27, 2011
And we r really commending these imams, for talking against an act that they secretly praise, oh please spare me all these 'yo momas' jokes!
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by okosodo: 8:03pm On Dec 27, 2011
They should mean it.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by worm(f): 8:05pm On Dec 27, 2011
THOSE BLAMING THE ISLAMIC LEADERS FOR KEEPING MUTE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
They are as scared as everyone when it comes to boko haram. The true is that they also are not happy with the bombings but if they dare open their mouth these guys will target and kill them and they dont want to die! simple

This is what i found out:
An Islamic cleric was shot in a mosque while leading prayers 2 yrs ago in Kano. Yusuf the boko haram leader was his student. They went separate ways because of Yusuf's extremist ideas towards Islam. It is suspected that Yusuf sent his boys to kill this man because he always condemn Yusuf's views.

Question:
If they can kill the man that has made them what they were just because they feel he didnt support their activities who do you think other imams or sultans are.

Those people waiting for boko jaram to attack mosques/muslims before believing that it is a national problem, the answer is simple.

They cant attack mosques because they also call themselves muslims. They cant attack muslims because they see them as their brothers.

This was revealed to me by a muslim friend.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by ortopazz(m): 8:32pm On Dec 27, 2011
@worm
atlist they'v cnfirmd that they are muslims!
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by tohirah(f): 8:53pm On Dec 27, 2011
@sleek29,first of all,the quran cant be changed no matter what happens.these heartless boko haram are not the only ones reading the Quran,they are actually fighting a political battle and they want to make it look like a religious battle.their name boko haram means against book(i.e western education).about other part of the world where muslims are supposedly violent,we are human and our comprehension capability is different.they have interpreted the quran to something else and they feel they are doing the right thing.what are we even talking about, the quran did not say we should kill non-muslims,instead we should lovingly invite them into the islamic fold but the end of the world is near so different hings from different people.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by Nobody: 9:00pm On Dec 27, 2011
Nairalanders sef.
If Muslim leaders don't condemn it they will complain, if muslim leaders condemn it, they will still complain.
Thank God that Jonathan is not a muslim because some people would have said he is not doing anything serious about Boko Haram because he is a muslim.
Those of you still stubbornly deluding yourselves tht Boko Haram is pursuing a religious agenda, were you not in Nigeria when Yar'adua sent security forces to cut down members of the sect initially when they started their operations? Was Yar'adua not a muslim?
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by guonno: 9:00pm On Dec 27, 2011
fvck all of u that is commending the muslim scholars, fvck the muslim scholars, fvck the sultan, fvck muslims, fvck that guy who said muhammad would stand when christians are doing whatever, FVCK MUHAMMAD, fvck all the lazy southerners that are keeping quiet to this whole thing, fvck all the cowards in nigeria (they know themselves), fvck islam. Muslims will never have a peacefull celebration down south again, thats a promise. The lives of innocent children and women must be paid for, i hope they already know the price.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by sniperwolf(m): 9:03pm On Dec 27, 2011
Bleep Islam
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by sniperwolf(m): 9:04pm On Dec 27, 2011
Fvck Islam
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by executinal(m): 9:28pm On Dec 27, 2011
Who cares, Fuc,k Islam, Fuc,k mohammed and his co worshipers, Fuc,k the islamic harams, Bleep them all angry angry angry angry angry angry angry
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by Ayoobscom(m): 9:31pm On Dec 27, 2011
I condole the family of the lost one's it is truly unIslamic and untaught in the Holy Qurán


So if they keep disguising under the umbrella of Islam it's time we Muslims rise up to fetch them and destroy them including their source

For there's not a peace but Islam in every ramification, Chriatians are to be tolerated

Allah said in the Holly ''Qurán La Ikraha Fi din"' means there's no force in religion/faith so let them be
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by PHIPEX(m): 9:51pm On Dec 27, 2011
zangality:

There is no verses of the noble Quran that says innocents Xtians and Jews should be murdered.U can get a copy and u will be convinced,

Even if that book didn't outrightly tell u to kill me if my religious views contradict urs, there must be something wrong with it that makes some people c=r-a^z&y after reading it. Maybe it has several loopholes like our constitution that makes it easily taken advantage of, I suggest u guys should think about amending some of its passages to suit our civilised era.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by yusufkura: 10:02pm On Dec 27, 2011
it is disturbing to see our youth been drawn into tribal and religious fault line
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by Onyocha: 10:03pm On Dec 27, 2011
see the animals using the "fvck" word to provoke the sensitivities of others.they even shamelessly call others cowards as if they can use that word face to face with fellow nigerians who are muslims.

i really dont know why we christians are rude to the beliefs of others.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by Ayoobscom(m): 10:11pm On Dec 27, 2011
I do not know what u mean by amendement, like suporting gays and lesbians like others, Na Na Na, amendment means erosion .most Important i have shown u what Qur'an view of faith is, we cannot subscribe to wordly testament supporting interests,like dancing and clapping while targeting the fartest boobs
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by nagoma(m): 10:15pm On Dec 27, 2011
My heart goes to the families and friends of those affected especially for the Xmas day bombing. A lthough I am a Muslim I have lost close relatives to the activities of BH . I can't go into details. I have always had my doubts about the realobjectives and aims of the bombings by BH ( who ever Or whatever BH is). Ironically it is  the Christmas day bombing of churches and killing of worshippers that convinced me beyond any doubt that their motives are not religious.  but a determined effort to use religion to create upheaval , maximum disorder and possibly war. Attacking churches and killing worshippers had never been the methods of spreading Islam.
1. You cannot spread Islam to dead people or to their surviving relatives.
2. When Muslims occupied Spain , anybody who took refuge in church was always spared because it was a place of worship. Churches and synagogues were never destroyed but converted to mosques if the concurred became Muslims.
3. The aim of the attacks on Christmas day and other similar attacks is clearly to present the maximum provocation and horror, to elicit anger and vengeance with a defined target ie all Muslims.
4. Clearly somebody wants to destroy the country, somebody with technology and knoledge of making big effective bombs and the ability to evade our security apparatus. We must start using our brains .those almajiris cannot be the brains behind this. I have my doubts if Nigerians are the leaders in this. I will be cautious about those eagerly offering , medical, military and intelligence support - there may be more than meets the eye.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by maclatunji: 10:36pm On Dec 27, 2011
Those Islamic Scholars are very brave because they are risking their lives by saying the truth in this our environment. If you like call Islam all the bad names in your dictionary, it will not prevent Boko Haram from carrying-out their evil acts. The earlier majority of Nigerians especially Christians  put GEJ under pressure to take decisive action on this matter, the better for all of us.

One major reason that innocent people majorly Christians are dying at the hands of Boko Haram is that GEJ feels that he has the blind support of Christians irrespective of whether he performs or not.

Remove that blind support and he will feel threatened enough to take steps to protect all citizens especially Christians.

Let us work to break this vicious cycle of blind support for mediocrity that is breeding more misery that is causing more blindness in people's reasoning thereby making them pay a hefty price.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by usbcable(m): 10:43pm On Dec 27, 2011
guonno:

fvck all of u that is commending the muslim scholars, fvck the muslim scholars, fvck the sultan, fvck muslims, fvck that guy who said muhammad would stand when christians are doing whatever, FVCK MUHAMMAD, fvck all the lazy southerners that are keeping quiet to this whole thing, fvck all the cowards in nigeria (they know themselves), fvck islam. Muslims will never have a peacefull celebration down south again, thats a promise. The lives of innocent children and women must be paid for, i hope they already know the price.
sniperwolf:

Fvck Islam
executinal:

Who cares, Fuc,k Islam, Fuc,k mohammed and his co worshipers, Fuc,k the islamic harams, bleep them all angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

Its so sad some folks under the cloak of Islam to perpetrate evil.
I know most christian presently feel anger and anguish at these bombings but truth is a ''normal'' muslim wont condone nor support these acts of violence.
that said lets all refrain from comments such as the ones above.
I hope and pray FG dont dialogue with these rogues but rather deal decisively with them all.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by jude33084(m): 11:03pm On Dec 27, 2011
Onyocha:

see the animals using the "fvck" word to provoke the sensitivities of others.they even shamelessly call others cowards as if they can use that word face to face with fellow nigerians who are muslims.

i really dont know why we christians are rude to the beliefs of others.

Onyocha:

see the animals using the "fvck" word to provoke the sensitivities of others.they even shamelessly call others cowards as if they can use that word face to face with fellow nigerians who are muslims,
!


i really dont know why we christians are rude to the beliefs of others.

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Calling muslims fvck and using bombs to wipe a whole generation out of existence? which one do u prefer? I will tell u d one i prefer; I'd hav prefered bh going to churches and say "fvck u priest or rev. father and entire congregation" instead of detonating a 50kg c4 explosives killing dozens.
I think u r d sick guy here!
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by chyzoo4u(m): 11:14pm On Dec 27, 2011
But honestly, come to think of this mess, One can audaciously headline Nigeria as bleeped!!! While its citizens SUCKS!!! Bleep EVERYTHING!
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by BlackBaron: 2:44am On Dec 28, 2011
My own question is this

What is the Quran's stance on 'killing' generally cos most times I read statements criticising an act of murder or vice versa, the emphasis is always on 'innocent', 'children', 'women'. Does this mean there is allowance to kill when threatened ? I spoke about the 'turn the other cheek' to a Muslim once and he replied that was 'cowardice'

Asari Dokubo was asserted to leave Christianity because his Niger Delta struggle was contrary to the bible not forgetting also a known Bin Laden admirer ??
Is it condoned to fight or wage a war when 'threatened'? knowing that the boldened can be misinterpreted by various groups.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by Daffydoc: 9:00am On Dec 28, 2011
THIS AN ARTICLE I FOUND , I couldn't find d link when I checked back. So I just pasted d wholething but trust me d source is genuine. It's kinda long,pls just be patient and read on. Monday, November 14th, 2011 | Posted by Gordon Duff NIGERIA: TARGETED FOR DESTRUCTION. Those Who Have Ears to Hear By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor I won’t write about Nigeria as a journalist. I am known in Nigeria as a national security specialist with decades of experience there. I have close personal friends at the highest levels of government and only write these few words out of deep concern. For those reading the news about Africa, both of you, Nigeria is under terrorist attack and preparing military operations against a group called Boko Haram, an Islamic group from the North, more accurately centered in Niger, a nation to the north, a cesspool of international intrigue. From Veterans Today’s London correspondent, a specialist on African affairs: The article was well written and thoroughly researched although it didn’t go far enough in identifying dealing with the greed of certain establishment figures that may directly or indirectly be involved in some of the atrocities committed by Boko Haram. 1. The security of the presidency and the entire nation has been greatly compromised by the activities of certain individuals very close to the presidency. 2. It is common knowledge that the president of Nigeria is not protected at all and you can get at him at any time in or out of his residence. 3. The security around him is a joke to say the least, contrary to the views of certain individuals around the president. 4. The issues of government by settlement which had long plagued Nigeria are the orders of the day now where certain individuals are asking for colossal sums of money from certain security consultants to provide training and security equipment to the government. 5. One individual in particular has been known to collect huge sums of money from these outfits currently parading themselves as security consultants in Abuja 6. The level of cover and protection given the president and his family is simply laughable and nonexistent Why has the country been compromised It is widely known that certain foreign elements are providing security to the president and providing his current security details. What a joke, you might say. These same foreign elements are the same who have sold outdated equipment to the government and are going around Abuja installing CCTV and bomb detection equipment around the capitol, technology decades old. Huge sums of money have changed hands for second rate equipment The government pays for a Rolls Royce car but gets a VW Beetle instead!! Why is there so much fear and apprehension among Nigerians that the government can no longer protect its citizens? Two Nigerian Policemen Caught Bringing In Truckload of Bombs What are the costs expended so far on security equipment and the so called security consultants? Why have certain individuals collected bribe money to award these security contracts at over inflated figures? Now, this is one example of several of how corruption is endemic and goes to the heart of government. You may wonder who stands to benefit from these contracts at the expense of the security of the president, the presidency and the nation. The answers to these questions lies within the presidency itself because of the acts of these individuals in the last few weeks. There are no real interests to control the activities of Boko Haram because of the vested interests of certain foreign governments in collusion with their agents in the present administration and the country. To some in government, this is another tool to control certain individuals. Most Nigerians are cowards, anyway. Kill a few “Nigerians,” “Christians” and make it look like christ6ianity against Islam to provoke a reaction from Nigerians. If you get no reaction, kill a few more or go after prime targets to grab headlines. Again, you may ask yourself, who stands to gain when there are terror scares in the country? Nigerians are highly intelligent and resourceful people and can put an immediate end to all of these happenings when their own status is on the line and their livelihood is at stake or threatened. Boko Haram - No Shortage of Unemployed Young Men Nigeria has not gotten to that point yet but may soon reach the point of no return. Sources within the Intel community have confirmed that Boko Haram is getting Intel assistance from senior Nigerian intelligence officials. To these officials, this is a means to an end. The danger here is that a monster has been created which sooner or later may go out of control of their political masters. Certain people are benefiting financially from the current security situation in the country, from inflated security contracts. One such individual from within the presidency recently placed orders from a North American and Middle East country located near Tel Aviv. What is the cost of a Nigerian life (Mr.) and how much is it worth to you sir? This is the public version of things anyway. However, outside forces are at play, concerns “from afar” best described in a fictional context. H. G. Wells described it best in his science fiction novel, War of the Worlds. “No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man’s and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter… It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days…Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twentieth century came the great disillusionment.” Thus, fiction again becomes reality, not an enemy from space but one of terrestrial origin, unnamed but recognized by all who see the lands laid waste. In Nigeria, Terrorism is the Rough Version This organization, call it “globalist” if you want, began orchestrating war in Yemen a bit ago after failing to set war against Iran into motion through incidents in Bahrain and the Persian Gulf. The “Al Qaeda franchise” in Yemen represents an “understanding” between the current government, the CIA and Mossad to create a simulated terrorist environment as “deception and cover” for a series of other activities in the region. There is now, nor has there ever been an organized “pan-Islamic” terrorist presence in Yemen though one has been “simulated” through misleading reports, “false flag” terror and a theatre of “counter-terrorist” activities, drone attacks and such, for no purpose other than to provide a base of operations for a global criminal enterprise. What we are seeing now in Nigeria is part of the same strategy, one that has included attacks on a physical scale, currency manipulation and now a staged move against Africa, which will be combined with attempts to exploit the vulnerabilities of the Arab Spring, new players, new governments and new greed. Key Nigerians ripe for bribery are making this possible. They are aware they are bringing about the destruction of their own nation, they simply don’t care. The attitude there is “every man for himself.” Another way of describing those currently in power, including and especially officials in counter-terrorism and security is “rats abandoning a sinking ship.” In all fairness, the U.S. has a similar elitist clique of politicians, special interest multi- nationals, some of whom have their own intelligence resources that rival most countries. The terror group, Boko Haram, is real but in its current formation, it is a proxy of outside powers who plan to Balkanize Nigeria, simply another domino to fall as have so many others. As with any group seeking redress, Boko Haram has been hijacked and is now being directed from within, from without as is the Nigerian government that will be fighting it. What is playing out, though all are ready to “go through the motions” otherwise, is far more about drugs than anything else. The Nigerians don’t yet know this or those hands that are out would be more aggressive. Nigeria, a great playing field, largest in Africa, is the southern flank of an operation that is much more than simply stolen oil revenue and inscrutable games about gas pipelines that never come online. Drugs are perfection. If you produce narcotics, you control the land, if you transit narcotics, you control the authorities, if you sell narcotics, you control the courts, the police and, of course, the government itself. Arms and oil count, money is still worth counterfeiting, oil worth stealing but all this is so “yesterday.” The real world struggle today is narco-driven, fought from the Kyber Pass to the Mexico- Arizona border and all lands in between. Nigerians who think “tribal” or “ethnic” will die “regional” and “global,” perhaps by the millions. This is all little but theatre. The US bought a ticket to a play staged in Afghanistan and has found themselves unable to find the exit. This one will be quieter as this is Africa, it will be black people killing black people. Few will notice, fewer will care. Those with a stake notice, they care, but their agenda has no room for human life. Nigeria is a tinderbox beyond imagination. Decades old hatreds and fears are closer to the surface here than even in the Balkans. This is a very dangerous game some have chosen to begin. Were they available, and who is to say they aren’t, Nigerians would gleefully use nuclear weapons to settle domestic differences. Nigeria, is, in itself, a construct that never should have existed. The North is Muslim, the South is Christian, each side having nearly 100 million people and neither half is united in any way. Nigeria is a ripe plum for those who recognize such things and recognizing such things is how predators have come to dominate world affairs. The history after colonial occupation is one of military dictatorship and corruption at levels unimaginable. Nigeria is Africa, the most populace country, the most oil and gas wealth, the greatest economic potential, the biggest potential market. Thus, Nigeria is a target. A note from a friend in the region choosing to weigh in with information generally not for public consumption: “We can take down French AQIM without any problem to be honest but Boko Haram are tribes and clans, they are offered drugs, money etc… far far from Islam but at the origin it was an Islamic party infiltrated by the English, French and financed by the “narcos” linked to the CIA, DEA etc… … who are landing their planes full of drugs in Niger, Mali, Mauritania, north of Nigeria, Chad in the desert… around 4 billions a year transit in this region… …then up through Morocco, Polisario, Spain and then Europe and through Tunisia, Libya- Algeria border through Italy, or Greece depending which recipient networks… Ben Ali , king of Morocco, Polisario Front, Algerian zionists are deeply involved in this dirty business, same for migrants, exactly the same people… Boko Haram in charge of Nigeria up to Libya and south of Tunisia, with Touaregs…” For those unaware, and those who wonder why Saif Gaddafi is where he is, those who choose to be fed the superficial view of a region maps show as only empty desert, I hope this is found to be “enriching.” For others, it is exposure I hope they find disturbing. Those in power know I laid out their fate. I told them when the bombings would start, what type, I was even right about the first target, exactly right. I figured what I would do and it happened. I figured what I would do if I were the head of a foreign intelligence agency planning to take over security operations for the government by making the new president appear vulnerable, powerless and then exploiting divisions in the country in order to start two decades of extremely profitable war. In the process, side can be played against side, crooked politicians can keep the decision making apparatus paralyzed and the country can be turned into a terrorist battleground, leading to the long awaited civil war while being bled dry. I laid the whole thing out. Two foreign governments are involved, I named them. I told my friends that Abuja would soon look like Islamabad, cameras, check points, troops, that was the first part of the destabilization plan. This is being done as we speak. Real nation building is not in the cards, only violation and destruction, debt and more debt. I saw it done, more carefully, to the United States. It isn’t the same crew, not entirely, but many of the same actors are involved. First they began by blocking the new president from assuming real power, buying off key political and military leaders. Then a phony terror campaign was begun, like the one the US saw with 9/11. Then “they” arrived with solutions. At the same time, “they,” who have been working with the terror groups for years, are building an “Al Qaeda” type organization that will be able to dart across borders and carefully orchestrate a pattern of destabilization using the same contractors that are going to be paid millions to help put in place security apparatus to protect the country. This happened in America, in a way at least. It is a plan long in motion. Nigerians are ripe for civil war, angry, divided, fed up with abuse. One minor offshoot of the decision making and policy formulation we are seeing is the utter and total destruction of Nigeria’s economic and commercial viability. It is being erased from the maps of boardrooms across the world as a potential place of business, of development, of wealth creation, from Beijing to Zurich and places beyond. Christian Nigeria is being set up, not just to fight a “terror group” in the North but to take on all of Islamic Africa, to draw them into a war that will bring more players, America, for one, into another endless cesspool. Yemen was the model. Simple tribal misunderstandings became tribal conflict and then, through careful orchestration, bushels of bribe money and false flag terrorism, which Nigeria has already been dosed with, Yemen became the stronghold of an imaginary Al Qaeda cell. Soon Nigeria will enjoy the sight of armed UAVs, piloted from, just perhaps, Tel Aviv, theoretically there to punish terrorists. Pakistan will explain it to you if you care to listen. UAV attacks are how terrorists are recruited, how wars are instigated and how the disjointed and unsettled are turned into an enemy camp. The presentations have been made and the purchase orders await only the promised “backhanders” or as we call it here, “kickbacks” to be executed. Nigeria, I love the damned country, my friends there which include those who theoretically rule the country, if such a thing were possible. It is not. What I did do is lay out a plan for the first hundred days that would have prevented this. In order to accomplish this, one would have to overcome a corrupt government, meaning that one would have to assume near dictatorial powers and turn to the people, all the people, for support. One would have to deliver on promises of electrical power, police reform, refinancing debt, so many things. There were two choices, one was to build a nation and the other was to react and become the victim of a plot long stewing in two capitols far away. The desire for a civil war, something so many want in Nigeria, have waited for, has allowed them, the government, the people, to become what they fear most, slaves in their own nation. Nigeria isn’t Libya. It has a population 15 times that of Libya. Nigeria is Africa. Saving Nigeria was vital to world stability, something only a select few know. Destroying Nigeria was vital to world entropy, something only a select few know also. Even fewer know that Nigerian security is considered an area of “clear and present danger” to the United States, or to term it differently for others, an area of “vital national interest.” Our armies enjoy joint exercises yearly, Nigeria is the lynchpin of America’s African policy for the next 25 years. The destabilzation of Nigeria is part and parcel to the destabilization of America’s position in the world, one more thing making Nigeria attractive. America has spent decades making enemies and Nigeria is a way of helping bury America as is Afghanistan. Who would wish such a thing? Get a map and figure it out. As we speak, planeloads of bomb detection equipment is coming in from the same people who built the car bombs in the first place. War is being planned with the help of those who organized and armed the enemy. Enough people were there who remember it all being laid out, how it would be done. Predicting this didn’t take genius, not hardly. I had seen it all before, so many times. The plots spoken of as against Libya are very real but Egypt and Nigeria are the primary targets, taking the place of Iran, a nation that has been more resourceful than expected. Were it taught, which it is not, we would call it history
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by onyengbu: 9:12am On Dec 28, 2011
BlackBaron:

My own question is this

What is the Quran's stance on 'killing' generally cos most times I read statements criticising an act of murder or vice versa, the emphasis is always on 'innocent', 'children', 'women'. Does this mean there is allowance to kill when threatened ? I spoke about the 'turn the other cheek' to a Muslim once and he replied that was 'cowardice'

Asari Dokubo was asserted to leave Christianity because his Niger Delta struggle was contrary to the bible not forgetting also a known Bin Laden admirer ??
Is it condoned to fight or wage a war when 'threatened'? knowing that the boldened can be misinterpreted by various groups.
you beat me to this.

The emphasis has always been on innocent and that has been the problem.
Innocence can always be misinterpreted.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by Nobody: 9:42am On Dec 28, 2011
It is political move not religion as such!
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by favouredjb(f): 10:06am On Dec 28, 2011
I TOOK OUT TIME TO READ DIS long epistle,its not really coherent but i get d point

@op to say b-h doesnt have a religious undertone is laughable
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by Baawaa(m): 12:26pm On Dec 28, 2011
Revolution Revolution!!
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by burhanu(m): 2:20am On Dec 29, 2011
That is ur problem, u don't want to sink in b/4 yielding, u close one eye nd continue loking with one eye, may be it is ur schorlar's glitch that abdicate or do nt eloborate nd adumbarate u ur religion de way it is, that is y always ur senseless mind process nonses nd continiue upgrading without knowing wat to archieve, fact happening r enouph to make u understand that this BH is some segment of muslim (whose apply neither Qur'an nor Hadith) in conducint their bussiness, who also misundstand the context of islam as a religion, schorlars of islam had try their possible best to make them understand, but all effort abartive. But always u r hanging ur self to make muslim responsible of doing this evil act, nd even sometime contending that it is our source of islam that provide for doing this evil act, wc is totally wrong. I urge u to regect ur word that abashed schorlars of islam contributing to ward BH.
Re: Islamic Scholars Condemn Xmas Day Bombings by WorshipMe: 4:58am On Dec 29, 2011
Yah, publicly. In his Book of Jihad, Averroes linked financiers and supporters with frontline jihadis. You have heard of damning with faint praise? Muz agitprops praise terror with faint damns. They always link islamoslaughterw with some ignoble cause. After the 9-11 massacre, they attacked terror and what they said caused it. The terrorists are allowed to be less than blameful for their mass killings.

Biafra War? South-South elements were being encroached by Brit enabled muz armies. When a Southee justly killed the Saudana leader, it was either the South putting the North against the 400,000 post independence encroachments of shariatis, or breaking up; the South into a true bastion of FREEDOM and a dhimmi state. Russia and Britain backed the dark-side. AMERICA ALONE STOOD FIRM. Soon the US will no longer be weakened by the Saudi "abd."

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