martyns303:

Revelation is a book of proverbs, visions and predictions, I doubt the stated words are literal.

martyns303:

Revelation is a book of proverbs, visions and predictions, I doubt the stated words are literal.

martyns303:

Revelation is a book of proverbs, visions and predictions, I doubt the stated words are literal.

is the book of revelation not made up of fantasies? let us see what academics and intellectuals have said about the book of revelation itself:

Thomas Jefferson :"merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

Friedrich Engels :"primarily a political and anti-Roman work"

George Bernard Shaw :"a peculiar record of the visions of a drug addict"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Criticism

phxc:

So you believe Jesus is the king of kings but you don't believe he has a tattoo to that effect? What's wrong with Jesus having a tattoo?

diluminati:

@op

Take your time to decipher that verse before sounding dum dum. He wore a Vesture and on that "vesture on his thigh" was that name written. Did you get that?

ves·ture (vschr)
n.
1. Clothing; apparel.
2. Something that covers or cloaks: hills in a vesture of mist.
tr.v. ves·tured, ves·tur·ing, ves·tures
To cover with vesture; clothe.

diluminati:

@op

Take your time to decipher that verse before sounding dum dum. He wore a Vesture and on that "vesture on his thigh" was that name written. Did you get that?

ves·ture (vschr)
n.
1. Clothing; apparel.
2. Something that covers or cloaks: hills in a vesture of mist.
tr.v. ves·tured, ves·tur·ing, ves·tures
To cover with vesture; clothe.

East:

Thank you for teaching these guys what the have refuse to know, LagosShia what made you so excited about the post? Have you noe seen the meaning of Vesture? PHXC, have you learn somththg from the above? I will really like to know how you are feeling after reading the meaning of vesture. Cheers brothers and sisters

diluminati:

@op

Take your time to decipher that verse before sounding dum dum. He wore a Vesture and on that "vesture on his thigh" was that name written. Did you get that?

ves·ture (vschr)
n.
1. Clothing; apparel.
2. Something that covers or cloaks: hills in a vesture of mist.
tr.v. ves·tured, ves·tur·ing, ves·tures
To cover with vesture; clothe.

is the book of revelation not made up of fantasies? let us see what academics and intellectuals have said about the book of revelation itself:

Thomas Jefferson :"merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

Friedrich Engels :"primarily a political and anti-Roman work"

George Bernard Shaw :"a peculiar record of the visions of a drug addict"     

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Criticism

Rev 2: 8-11
8"And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write: `These things saith the First and the Last, who was dead and is alive:
9I know thy works and tribulation and poverty (but thou art rich), and I know the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
10Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer. Behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried, and ye shall have tribulation ten days. Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of Life.
11He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. He that overcometh shall not be hurt by the second death.'

proo212:

Lagosshia, our resident chameleon, wikipedia agrees with you when it comes to bible bashing but not not quran bashing

Just do a search of the Smyrna massacare in the hands of the Turkish muslims (Kemal Ataturk). Holocaust denial you will be sent to prison, Smyrna confession you will be sent to prison

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16695133

proo212:

If you are not bashing, what part of the quotes from all these "gentlemen" is edifying to the book of revelations? Now Ataturk is an a%%hole because he was moderate? I have just read a brief history of the guy and I now know why you think he is an a$%hole.

Wonders shall never end. He tried to remove the dominance of Islam from everyday life in Turkey and he did succeed by the way that is why you dislike him, But I thought the Islamists are now back in power in Turkey so what is your beef. Tayyip Recep Erdogan's party took over from Bulent Ecevit's and his party. When Abdullah Gul became President there was some opposition because secularism of Turkey was under threat. Is Turkey not trying to implement Sharia law now?

How everything just falls in place is just amazing. What I have discovered in the last hour is just amazing. My eyes are more open everyday. Knowledge is increasing and not decreasing btw (another wrong prophecy by your scholars)!

The book of Daniel and Revelations that your gentlemen rubbished is so true. Praise the Lord. Proverbs 4:7 says wisdom is the principal thing therefore get wisdom in all they getting get understanding.

phxc:

Rev 19 vs 16 "And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

Never knew that --- though it's an odd place to have a tattoo and also odd choice of words like he needs constant reminding that he's the king of kings, point is our Lord and saviour has a tattoo.

LagosShia:

your eyes are not yet opened.

otherwise you'd have seen your arrogance,stu.pidity and hatred based on following your desires.

didn't you try to bash Islam by using a massacre committed by Ataturk?

oh now he is the good guy for being a secularist and anti-religion because Islam was his target in Turkey.you only read about him after your attempt to portray him as a muslim committing massacres failed.LOL

you have totallly forgotten that he committed massacres.why?

proo212:

That he oversaw the massacre whilst trying to make Turkey a secular state doesn't make him a good guy. All it did was just make me search for where Smyrna was on the world map.

I found it in Turkey, read the history after I heard about the massacre of the Eastern Christians in 1922. It makes you think and ponder. The prophecy in the book of revelations said they shall suffer persecution and they did!

The same book you and your gentlemen friends rubbished. Do I believe you and the gentlemen or the book of revelations. You tell me.

Like the book says, he who has an ear let him hear what the spirit is saying to the churches,

proo212:

I will not join you in condemning Monsieur Kemal and calling him names, the bible says in James 1:26 If any man among you seems to be religious, and bridles not his tongue, but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

For whatever he did he will give an account of himself at the end of time, at the white throne judgement of Jesus Christ.

proo212:

Me vulgar comments?

Everybody knows you are the one who calls people names and insults when you are offended by the falsehood of your religion being exposed. All I have done on this forum is research and give my input (based on research, not hear say).

I have never abused anyone or belittled anyone. If you are not willing to see the obvious falsehood, that is fine with me. Each to their own.

proo212:

Keeps mum,

Hutchie:

Even from the time of ancient Israel, men were forbidden to put tattoos are marks on their bodies. To say then that Jesus has a tatoo would contradict Gods word.

'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. (Lev 19:28)