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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:11pm On May 11, 2015
MrTA:
Surprised Liverpool allowed Terry to score from a corner, they're usually good at defending racists.
Nawa o!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:19pm On May 11, 2015
SailorXY:



where can we find midfielders with this kind of vision from deep?
Herrera is capable na. But if we'll buy, we can look at Vidal, Busquet...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SetrakusRa(m): 5:28pm On May 11, 2015
PietroRico:
greetings bro

please can I ask u for a favour?


Yes?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 6:34pm On May 11, 2015
10 Years of The Glaziers
In a press release this evening, Manchester United Supporters’ Trust issued the following comments to mark the 10-year anniversary of the Glazer family’s controversial ownership.

There are two fundamental criteria by which to judge any football club owner:
First, have they put money into the club? They could not have failed this key test any more comprehensively. ‘Not
investing a single penny might be considered an ‘ownership crime’ by fans at most clubs but far worse than that they’ve actually extracted colossal sums from Manchester United. When all interest and charges on their leveraged buyout is added up, plus money they’ve
paid themselves, plus related debt still on the club, they’ve taken more than £1 BILLION and it’s still rising.
No owner in the history of football in any country, ever, has taken so much money from a club.

Second, have they successfully handled the appointment of the two key roles of CEO and football manager?
Any business owner needs to oversee the appointment of the CEO and then let them get on with the job. It’s the same in football except there are two key appointments, CEO and manager. There can be no argument that they utterly botched Sir Alex Ferguson’s succession –
arguably the most important in the history of the club. It was clearly on the horizon years in advance, but when the time came, incredibly, they allowed experienced CEO David Gill to step down simultaneously. This was completely avoidable at such a destabilising time.
They crassly under-estimated Ferguson’s genius at working within the tight resources they allowed him, believing David Moyes, with a similar relative ‘austerity management’ background, could follow smoothly.

When the Glazers took over in 2005 we already had an exciting young squad including Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney. With continued investment that squad should have gone on to dominate Europe for years but the Glazer era squandered that golden chance and
although still successful on the pitch it has to go down, in Europe in particular, as a decade of wasted opportunity. United should have knocked Liverpool off their European perch too by surpassing their 5 European Cups. It seems very likely we would have done had it not been for financial austerity imposed by the Glazers’ ownership.

The mountain of debt meant fans had to pay, with huge ticket price hikes in the early years, and it also prevented the club from competing for the very best players against the likes of City and Chelsea let alone European rivals Real Madrid and Barcelona. Of course the purse strings have been loosened with major spending in the last 18 months but again this is not
them investing their own money. They are simply, once again, allowing the club to reinvest its own revenues in the squad just like a a normal football club! Add to all this the compulsory automatic cup (ticket purchase) scheme, so reviled by many, and zero engagement with the fans. Furthermore with minimal transparency it’s impossible to imagine worse owners. It just happens that Manchester United, unlike many other clubs which have suffered under exploitative owners, was so financially strong that it could withstand the assault.

Having said all that – it could have been even worse. Without Sir Alex Ferguson it seems unlikely the club could have withstood the financial strain they placed
upon it but he performed miracles. That was starkly illustrated when Sir Alex finally stepped down.

Furthermore the scrutiny and pressure created by fans and media coverage also served to protect the club from further damage. If you consider what’s happened at clubs like Glasgow Rangers, Leeds, Newcastle and Blackpool it illustrates just how crucial it is to continue to shine the light on the secretive activities of football
club owners. The Glazers were in position to take more
than £100 million in an additional personal cash “carve out” under a clause they included in their 2010 bond issue.

However this triggered the Green and Gold protests and not surprisingly they never exercised that right for fear of provoking an outright rebellion. It’s worth noting also that despite huge rises in the preceding years, season ticket prices have been pretty much frozen since the Green & Gold protests.

MUST also held them to account over ticket terms and conditions with a complaint to the Office of Fair trading
and went on to, in the face of opposition from their lawyers, register Old Trafford as an Asset of Community Value.

Furthermore without such continued pressure Old Trafford would almost certainly have been renamed with a sponsor but, given the ongoing fan pressure, what business would want to create such a hugely negative association with their own brand?

These actions by fans and the accompanying media spotlight have all helped to protect the club and that is why the watchdog role performed by MUST remains crucial to this day for both the club and fans.

Despite the huge damage inflicted over the last 10 years things are undoubtedly begining to look positive again in 2015. Relations between fans and the senior management team have improved vastly in the last 2 years with genuine dialogue and regular meetings established. The costs of servicing the remaining debt are now down to manageable levels and Manchester
United is climbing back to the position of financial superiority it occupied for 9 years prior to the Glazers arrival. It’s just a shame we had to go through all the pain and waste of the last decade simply to allow a family with no connection to Manchester United to enrich themselves at the expense of our club and fans. That should never be allowed to happen again to any football club and we will be lobbying Government to act to prevent this in future.
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 7:59pm On May 11, 2015
SetrakusRa:


Yes?
I dunno if u can help me with an fmh15, saved game with multiple leagues and enhanced engine


I would really appreciate
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:25pm On May 11, 2015
chrisley024:
Guessing. We might be lucky and have an easier fixture like Arsenal that played Besiktas

I think Spain,England and Germany are not meant to meet.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:20pm On May 11, 2015
SailorXY:



where can we find midfielders with this kind of vision from deep?

We had these creative guys and we lost the match at Old Trafford. Phil Jones played the return leg at White Hart Lane which was difficult to go then, and we were forced to a 1-1 draw with referee helping Spurs out. Ukwu!!!

The bottom line is that we need a right mix. The midfielder should also be able to win balls.


.................................

Defoe + movement

The second goal was not dissimilar, with Bale picking up the ball on the left before sprinting past Rio Ferdinand to score a fine goal. For both goals, the movement of Jermain Defoe played a significant part, despite him not touching the ball. For the first he’d drawn Ferdinand into the right-back position, leaving a gap in the centre of defence. For the second, he made a superb run across the pitch to drag Jonny Evans behind Ferdinand, making Bale’s path to goal much easier.

Tottenham’s directness on the ball was highly impressive, epitomised by Dembele’s second excellent performance at Old Trafford in just over a month, and replacing a passer like Luka Modric with a dribbler like Dembele has changed the way Tottenham play in that zone. For the second week running, United’s lack of a ball-winner was an obvious weakness.


Static United

United were very poor in the opening half, unable to provide reliable service to their forwards. This was partly because of Tottenham pressing limiting Michael Carrick and Paul Scholes’ passing influence, but also because United’s movement was terrible. The game bypassed Giggs on the left, while Nani remained a long way from Robin van Persie. Kagawa doesn’t yet seem comfortable in the side, and a couple of times van Persie moved out to the left, only to look up and find no-one in the box to cross to.

United are still yet to pass to Kagawa in the manner he likes – he wants more incisive balls played beyond opponents for him to run into, rather than short passes into feet when tightly marked. There was only one pass into him that fitted the bill – Carrick’s slide ball between two Tottenham players (just before Bale’s goal), met with a smart turn from Kagawa to get away from his opponents. United haven’t had a player like Kagawa for a long time (arguably, never before in Ferguson’s tenure) and they’re unaccustomed to basing their play around a direct number ten.


United changes

Ferguson rightly removed Giggs at half-time, pushing Kagawa left and bringing on Wayne Rooney in the hole. Immediately there was so much more movement from the home side, with Kagawa drifting in, Nani more central and Rooney supporting van Persie closely. The two wide players scored in the first ten minutes of the second half, which would have been unthinkable before half-time – Giggs and Nani were simply playing too far from goal.

In a frantic three-minute spell, Tottenham also scored. Again, excellent work by Defoe on the left created the chance, dragging Ferdinand out of position – this time with his work on the ball.


United pressure

Tottenham simply couldn’t keep the ball – Defoe’s performance was excellent in terms of movement, but he clearly wasn’t the man to hold the ball up. United completed ten times as many passes as Tottenham in the second half, a staggering statistic.


Conclusion

Lots to talk about here: Spurs’ pressing, their directness and their attempts to nullify Carrick and Scholes before sitting back late on. On the other hand, you can pinpoint United’s poor movement, their lack of a ball-winner and Kagawa’s struggles as reasons for the result.

The key was Spurs’ dribbling ability from deep positions, combined with Defoe’s fantastic movement to drag opponents out of position.

Source: Zonal Marking. Only an excerpt though.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:38pm On May 11, 2015
@elampiro the .gif against Spurs up there was a 5-2 for United
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:45pm On May 11, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Herrera is capable na. But if we'll buy, we can look at Vidal, Busquet...
yeah but he's an attacking midfielder - box to box yet he enjoys the freedom when positioned primarily as an attacker.

I actually meant a natural DM like Verrati or Bender.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:47pm On May 11, 2015
Nyashnal biting the dust cool
these kind late winning goals against an opponent can sugar cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:56pm On May 11, 2015
Where is that elf? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:56pm On May 11, 2015
SailorXY:
@elampiro
the .gif against Spurs up there was a 5-2 for United

okay.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:59pm On May 11, 2015
chrisley024:
Where is that elf? grin
they may still be calculating how to finish 4th, so we should do the needful. you know Wenger still targets that play-off cash, he's a great economist cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:03pm On May 11, 2015
3rd place don d smell since "a$$" nal lost to Swansea grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ElFenomeno1: 10:27pm On May 11, 2015
chrisley024:
Where is that elf? grin
right here beeyotch
I hope ya ready to get skinned on Sunday
don't even think about anything else.... grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pelvicky(m): 10:34pm On May 11, 2015
ElFenomeno1:
right here beeyotch I hope ya ready to get skinned on Sunday don't even think about anything else.... grin
how market bro?
Rooney shd just do the needful on sat/sun
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:34pm On May 11, 2015
ElFenomeno1:

right here beeyotch
I hope ya ready to get skinned on Sunday
don't even think about anything else.... grin

I can see you're gearing up for your favorite Fourphy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pelvicky(m): 10:35pm On May 11, 2015
ElFenomeno1:
right here beeyotch I hope ya ready to get skinned on Sunday don't even think about anything else.... grin
how market bro?
Rooney shd just do the needful on sat/sun
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:36pm On May 11, 2015
pelvicky:
how market bro?

Rooney shd just do the needful on sat/sun

No. Falcao will use Arsenal to rejuvenate his scoring prowess. useless team
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pelvicky(m): 10:38pm On May 11, 2015
Leyqute:


No. Falcao will use Arsenal to rejuvenate his scoring prowess. useless team
i have the feeling we wil beat them...after all dem don use their luck in the FA
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:42pm On May 11, 2015
chrisley024:
Where is that elf? grin
We wont see him now, ranting abt how useless his team is. Its only wen we lose or dey win u'll see him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 10:48pm On May 11, 2015
The fight for 'fourphy' has just begun. grin


I hope we win them at OT and try to finish above them in 3rd place,if not 2nd place,hoping that other results go our way.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:00pm On May 11, 2015
The match dis weekend should be interesting
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 11:35pm On May 11, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
The match dis weekend should be interesting
Do we've the players. 70% of them are injured.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:25am On May 12, 2015
chrisley024:
Do we've the players. 70% of them are injured.
We dont but we can still beat them. We've to allow dem play us, then we beat dem on d counter. Thats d only option. Our new found Tiki-Taka system especially with the players we'll be fielding against Arsenal wont work
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:30am On May 12, 2015
SailorXY:



where can we find midfielders with this kind of vision from deep?

This gif is confusing. This is not the 5-2 match. Is it not Nani I can see score a goal in your first gif? There was no such incidence. And Carrick did not assist from open play. He won the first penalty in the 5-2 win and that was his only assist.

The second gif where Rooney gave a long rage through pass to Tevez surely is the 5-2 match. I am sure you have two separate matches there.So it's not my fault I got confused about the match.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 12:34am On May 12, 2015
I think we should play 3 CMs (excluding Fellaini) in midfield with Young & Januzaj on the wings. if Rojo is still not fit, that means Blind to LB.
perhaps some young guys can come in for the last two games as well.

I'm tipping Januzaj, Wilson & Pereira
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 12:36am On May 12, 2015
elampiro:


This gif is confusing. This is not the 5-2 match. Is it not Nani I can see score a goal in your first gif? There was no such incidence. And Carrick did not assist from open play. He won the first penalty in the 5-2 win and that was his only assist.

The second gif where Rooney gave a long rage through pass to Tevez surely is the 5-2 match. I am sure you have two separate matches there.So it's not my fault I got confused about the match.


the Rooney pass is 5-2 scoreline, I made the .gif myself. its the PK incident.
the Nani goal is 4-0 against Nyashnal.

I was merely making emphasis on the vision of those through balls.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:38am On May 12, 2015
SailorXY:


the Rooney pass is 5-2 scoreline, I made the .gif myself. its the PK incident.
the Nani goal is 4-0 against Nyashnal.

I was merely making emphasis on the vision of those through balls.

Ok, now u supply us gifs until Coogar returns.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 12:43am On May 12, 2015
elampiro:

Ok, now u supply us gifs until Coogar returns.
Yaaaay! I just landed a job grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SetrakusRa(m): 7:48am On May 12, 2015
PietroRico:
I dunno if u can help me with an fmh15, saved game with multiple leagues and enhanced engine


I would really appreciate


I have one with Club as Man Utd and Manager name: Alex Ferguson..

Save game 1: England / Italy / Spain / Germany
Link: http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/48269307/file.html
Manager & Club: Alex Ferguson - Manchester United

Save game 2: Italy / England / Spain / Germany
Link: http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/38387240/file.html
Manager & Club: Roberto Baggio - AS Roma

Save game 3: Spain / Italy / England / Germany
Link: http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/29526931/file.html
Manager & Club: Afredo Di Stéfano - Real Madrid

Save game 4: Germany / England / Italy / Spain
Link: http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/81528144/file.html
Manager & Club: Olivier Kahn - Bayern Munchen
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 8:42am On May 12, 2015
SetrakusRa:


I have one with Club as Man Utd and Manager name: Alex Ferguson..

thanks bro, but the links there have all expired

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