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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 6:19pm On Jul 29, 2016
adeyemi2015:

Do you think the two names I highlighted will get playing time?! Why did they procure Andrew Gomez in the first Place?!
Where are Welbeck, Fletcher and Cleverley now?! This is a clear sign that the era of class 92 is over! Pep won many Trophies with Barca's La Masia Products, why Luis Enrique is not following the Footsteps?!
The Reason Arsenal is not winning Trophies is the same Reason we should avoid to start winning Trophies!

Samper is quite different from Andre Gomez who's a box-box midfielder. More so, he's been tied down to a new contract which showed how highly rated he is.

No doubt that the likes of Cleverley and Welbeck weren't good enough but we aint looking at the quality here but the intention behind it. Fergie atleast gave them chance and it was up to them to cease the opportunity but sadly, they weren't good enough. (Fletcher was good though before his injury struck).

What Fergie should have done at that moment was to accept that they weren't good enough rather than sticking with them with the belief that they would come good eventually. And that's the exact problem Wenger is having with a lot of Arsenal's average youth players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:28pm On Jul 29, 2016
Diademk07:


Samper is quite different from Andre Gomez who's a box-box midfielder. More so, he's been tied down to a new contract which showed how highly rated he is.

No doubt that the likes of Cleverley and Welbeck weren't good enough but we aint looking at the quality here but the intention behind it. Fergie atleast gave them chance and it was up to them to cease the opportunity but sadly, they weren't good enough.

What Fergie should have done at that moment was to accept that they weren't good enough rather than sticking with them with the belief that they would come good eventually. And that's the exact problem with Wenger with Arsenal's average youth players.
That exactly is the point! We need Trophies not developing Players at this moment! Besides, Rashford and Lingard are gonna be given enough playing time by Mourinho! He didn't change their numbers to 19 and 14 respectively for nothing, but because the duo are parts of his Plan!
Martial is also a young Lad, same as Shaw, Bailey and Depay! Jose is not completely overlooking young Players, he's only picking the better, and ready ones!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:32pm On Jul 29, 2016
undecided



Kinda pissed of reading news and rumors about Pogba imminent signing!

grin


Enough of breaking joor..... I hope the Transfer doesn't end up breaking our hearts!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 6:44pm On Jul 29, 2016
adeyemi2015:

That exactly is the point! We need Trophies not developing Players at this moment! Besides, Rashford and Lingard are gonna be given enough playing time by Mourinho! He didn't change their numbers to 19 and 14 respectively for nothing, but because the duo are parts of his Plan!
Martial is also a young Lad, same as Shaw, Bailey and Depay! Jose is not completely overlooking young Players, he's only picking the better, and ready ones!

Quality young players don't prevent a team from getting trophies. The youth players only become a problem when they are basically shite! Don't forget the young Ajax team won the CL.

More so, our young players outperformed the other seasonal experienced players in the team last season. Hence, they weren't the one that prevented us from getting trophies. Without the likes of Martial and Rashford, the FA cup would have never happened.

That said, I don't see why the likes of TFM, CBJ and Varela can't compete with the average joe in the squad coupled with some other quality youth players awaiting to be promoted from the academy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:48pm On Jul 29, 2016
"Everybody has been waiting for that moment, There has been a lot of talk and to make my debut in my country will feel great. I think the fans are waiting for me to come back and they are waiting to enjoy not only me, but the team as well. Hopefully, we can give them a good game and, at the same time, we are in the preparation. We need to keep focused, to build up the physical part and the conditioning part but we will give them what they want."

- Zlatan Ibrahimovic

ZlatanTime

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jul 29, 2016
Diademk07:


Quality young players doesn't prevent a team from getting trophies. The youth players only become a problem when they are basically shite! Don't forget the young Ajax team won the CL.

More so, our young players outperformed the other seasonal experienced players in the team last season. Hence, they weren't the one that prevented us from getting trophies. Without the likes of Martial and Rashford, the FA cup would have never happened.

That said, I don't see why the likes of TFM, CBJ and Varela can't compete with the average joe in the squad coupled with some other quality youth players awaiting to be promoted from the academy.

grin


It will be easier for Buhari to turn Nigeria to America within 4 years than that Feat to happen again in this lifetime!


I think I've sorted out the issue of Martial and Rashford! They've proven their readiness and Mourinho is gonna reward them with first Team Footie!

As for TFM (he's part of Mourinho's plan), CBJ and Co..... they need to go out Loan! I like Januzaj very well, but I think he needs to go out on Loan too, probably joining Moyes at Sunderland!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Talsima: 7:01pm On Jul 29, 2016

Mourinho gives update. Smalling and Mensah are injured. Smalling is also suspended from the first game of the season. Mensah will not join until 100% fit.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:04pm On Jul 29, 2016
adeyemi2015:


grin


It will be easier for Buhari to turn Nigeria to America within 4 years than that Feat to happen again in this lifetime!


I think I've sorted out the issue of Martial and Rashford! They've proven their readiness and Mourinho is gonna reward them with first Team Footie!

As for TFM (he's part of Mourinho's plan), CBJ and Co..... they need to go out Loan! I like Januzaj very well, but I think he needs to go out on Loan too, probably joining Moyes at Sunderland!


Why? A youthful German team almost won the 2010 world-cup and they did won the third place prize.

You actually think Rashford will get playtime? With the acquisition of Ibra in the team, he would only get the Balotelli treatment
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:06pm On Jul 29, 2016
PietroRico:
oga calm down.
TFM, (my name namesake grin) no dey go anywhere.
So ur name na Fosu-Mensah?? Awesome. grin grin


Some papers are reporting that he had been given assurances of his future actually, s that a new deal is being prepared..
Abegi. Even Rashford was assured of his future. The club even opted to sign an old 1yr striker instead of a younger, long term striker so as not to stunt his growth as our future CF. But we both know Rashford ll hardly get time under Mourinho. Na Zlatan e go be almost every match day.

And why should the likes of Januzaj, Mensah and other make sense youth players be sent on loan?? Does he plan on using the same starting 11 he plays on Thursday nights to start league games on Sunday??
The Europa group games and up to the round of 32 should be relatively easy games for us. And dat is d best place to gve our youth a chance while the big boys play on weekends. Every one stays fresh and well rested that way with little risk of injuries.


Sending those players out on loan is a bad idea and will only come back to hurt us later in the season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:07pm On Jul 29, 2016
Sales in Just One Week

We now know the main reason behind Manchester United‘s decision to bring Zlatan Ibrahimovic to Old Trafford – in fact there are about seventy six million reasons.

United are known to have the savviest and most profitable marketing team in world football, with the money men hired by the Glazer family unlikely to miss a trick that could earn them a few quid.

So, when Jose Mourinho opted to sign Zlatan Ibrahimovic on a free transfer, the Red Devils hierarchy would’ve been all too happy to finance the Swede’s big wages, because they knew exactly how much they’d make back from shirt sales and advertising revenue.

But even the most optimistic employee inside United accounting department probably wouldn’t imagine the club would rake in an astonishing £76 MILLION from fans buying the red home shirt with ‘9 Ibrahimovic’ on the back in just the matter of one week.

According to The Sun, that’s exactly what’s happened.
[img]http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/zlatan-ibrahimovic-of-manchester-united-poses-after-signing-for-the-picture-id544084852[/img]

And if the sales continue, Zlatan could end up financing the world record transfer deal for Paul Pogba all on his own.

To put the figure into perspective, Leicester City’s entire title-winning squad cost just £54 million in total. Incredible, eh?

What do you make of the numbers? Are United putting money before the team?

http://talkingbaws.com/2016/07/zlatans-manchester-united-shirt-makes-76-million-in-sales-in-just-one-week/?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Talsima: 7:08pm On Jul 29, 2016
"Fosu-Mensah is not so much injured," Mourinho told MUTV . "But he has this little thing that we want to be careful with given that he is young. He is separate from the group until he is 100 per cent back.
"Chris Smalling has had a recurrence of an old injury from the previous season. We shall see what happens, but already he is suspended for the first game against Bournemouth."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Talsima: 7:10pm On Jul 29, 2016
Even Pogba will make his transfer money for us via his shirt sale.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:18pm On Jul 29, 2016
Woodward is an astute business man, Ibra and Pogba will ease the financial constraint that comes with missing out on the UCL...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 7:18pm On Jul 29, 2016
SailorXY:
Sales in Just One Week

We now know the main reason behind Manchester United‘s decision to bring Zlatan Ibrahimovic to Old Trafford – in fact there are about seventy six million reasons.

United are known to have the savviest and most profitable marketing team in world football, with the money men hired by the Glazer family unlikely to miss a trick that could earn them a few quid.

So, when Jose Mourinho opted to sign Zlatan Ibrahimovic on a free transfer, the Red Devils hierarchy would’ve been all too happy to finance the Swede’s big wages, because they knew exactly how much they’d make back from shirt sales and advertising revenue.

But even the most optimistic employee inside United accounting department probably wouldn’t imagine the club would rake in an astonishing £76 MILLION from fans buying the red home shirt with ‘9 Ibrahimovic’ on the back in just the matter of one week.
And if the sales continue, Zlatan could end up financing the world record transfer deal for Paul Pogba all on his own.

To put the figure into perspective, Leicester City’s entire title-winning squad cost just £54 million in total. Incredible, eh?

What do you make of the numbers? Are United putting money before the team?

http://talkingbaws.com/2016/07/zlatans-manchester-united-shirt-makes-76-million-in-sales-in-just-one-week/?
impressive
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:19pm On Jul 29, 2016
SailorXY:
Sales in Just One Week

We now know the main reason behind Manchester United‘s decision to bring Zlatan Ibrahimovic to Old Trafford – in fact there are about seventy six million reasons.

United are known to have the savviest and most profitable marketing team in world football, with the money men hired by the Glazer family unlikely to miss a trick that could earn them a few quid.

So, when Jose Mourinho opted to sign Zlatan Ibrahimovic on a free transfer, the Red Devils hierarchy would’ve been all too happy to finance the Swede’s big wages, because they knew exactly how much they’d make back from shirt sales and advertising revenue.

But even the most optimistic employee inside United accounting department probably wouldn’t imagine the club would rake in an astonishing £76 MILLION from fans buying the red home shirt with ‘9 Ibrahimovic’ on the back in just the matter of one week.

According to The Sun, that’s exactly what’s happened.
[img]http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/zlatan-ibrahimovic-of-manchester-united-poses-after-signing-for-the-picture-id544084852[/img]

And if the sales continue, Zlatan could end up financing the world record transfer deal for Paul Pogba all on his own.

To put the figure into perspective, Leicester City’s entire title-winning squad cost just £54 million in total. Incredible, eh?

What do you make of the numbers? Are United putting money before the team?

http://talkingbaws.com/2016/07/zlatans-manchester-united-shirt-makes-76-million-in-sales-in-just-one-week/?

Lol!
See exaggeration at its best! Why don't they find out how much sales Ronaldo's shirt made in a year at Madrid. It wasn't even up to 13mil euros but Zlatan will finance Pogba fees? Lol!
People should know the club only get 10% cut of the sale.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:32pm On Jul 29, 2016
Journalist = parrots. No deal done between Clubs. Its a game between Italy press and UK press who announce it first and who is worse.
--Mino Raiola on Twitter


United eye Payet
--France Football
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:34pm On Jul 29, 2016
Diademk07:


Lol!
See exaggeration at its best! Why don't they find out how much sales Ronaldo's shirt made in a year at Madrid. It wasn't even up to 13mil euros but Zlatan will finance Pogba fees? Lol!
People should know the club only get 10% cut of the sale.

grin

I know if everyone falls for the news, you won't!

undecided

I'm kinda skeptical too! £76m within a Week?! It's hard to believe!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Talsima: 7:48pm On Jul 29, 2016
Diademk07:


Lol!
See exaggeration at its best! Why don't they find out how much sales Ronaldo's shirt made in a year at Madrid. It wasn't even up to 13mil euros but Zlatan will finance Pogba fees? Lol!
People should know the club only get 10% cut of the sale.

So where does the 90% go to?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:56pm On Jul 29, 2016
Talsima:
So where does the 90% go to?
probably to finance ISIS.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:00pm On Jul 29, 2016
Talsima:

So where does the 90% go to?
To the shirt company! Abi na manutd dey make the cloth?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:05pm On Jul 29, 2016
Diademk07:


Lol!
See exaggeration at its best! Why don't they find out how much sales Ronaldo's shirt made in a year at Madrid. It wasn't even up to 13mil euros but Zlatan will finance Pogba fees? Lol!
People should know the club only get 10% cut of the sale.
Real Madrid have said shirt sales featuring the name and number of world record signing
Cristiano Ronaldo have already surpassed the initial £80 million it took to sign him from Manchester United.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2010/04/15/cristiano-ronaldo-shirt-sales-have-already-paid-off-80m-fee-to-manchester-united-real-madrid-claim-242129/#ixzz4FpHCMoRs

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:14pm On Jul 29, 2016
SailorXY:

Real Madrid have said shirt sales featuring the name and number of world record signing
Cristiano Ronaldo have already surpassed the initial £80 million it took to sign him from Manchester United.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2010/04/15/cristiano-ronaldo-shirt-sales-have-already-paid-off-80m-fee-to-manchester-united-real-madrid-claim-242129/#ixzz4FpHCMoRs

Did you read the article?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by atebesunny: 8:23pm On Jul 29, 2016
SailorXY:

Real Madrid have said shirt sales featuring the name and number of world record signing
Cristiano Ronaldo have already surpassed the initial £80 million it took to sign him from Manchester United.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2010/04/15/cristiano-ronaldo-shirt-sales-have-already-paid-off-80m-fee-to-manchester-united-real-madrid-claim-242129/#ixzz4FpHCMoRs



The income of around £100 million has not
all gone towards paying back the outlay
for the player’s services due to
production and marketing costs and
payments to kit manufacturer Adidas and
Ronaldo himself.
But experts are predicting throughout the
player’s six-year contract he will more
than make up for his market value in
merchandising alone – regardless of his
performances on the pitch.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 8:25pm On Jul 29, 2016
Obviously... undecided


This is being used by fans to justify the exorbitant fee which United are purporting to pay for Paul Pogba. In addition to stemming a click-bait epidemic during a summer-long transfer saga, the number six jersey has been left vacant for the French international to step into.

However, those with a basic understanding of business and finance will know that United will by no means gain anything close to the Pogba fee off the back of their free signing.

The whole point of Adidas’ “richest ever” jersey contract with United is so they profit from the jersey sales themselves. In 2015, the Old Trafford club began receiving a reported yearly windfall of £75 million over ten years from the German company. Dividends from the likes of Ibra as well as last year’s high vendors Memphis Depay and Anthony Martial will form what Adidas expected to be a £1.5 billion (yes, with a “B”) profit for them over the span of the deal.

Firstly, clubs usually only begin to make their royalty money once a certain amount of jerseys are sold. Given the market expectation for a worldwide brand like United, one would imagine that Adidas relinquish no capital until at least three or four million jerseys have been sold. Ergo, the majority of that £76 million will be resting in German coffers.

The club makes a percentage on each shirt that is subsequently sold. Jerseys bought from the club’s official site retail at €90 (roughly £75). Let’s say, as an example, that United receive 15% of every jersey sold. Obviously, as Adidas is the retailer producing the jersey (in Vietnam!), they bare the cost of that and set up deals with retailers around the globe. Therefore, United only see their cut of the money at the tail end.

Should half a million jerseys be sold at that £75 retail price, the gross profit figure stands at £37.5 million. United’s 15% bags them a total of £5.625 million. If you think that the 15% is too low a cut, let’s increase it to an outlandish (given their Adidas yearly reparations), 20% of one million jerseys sold. That astronomical volume of jersey sales would net a total of €15 million. Of course, all of this is before tax.

These are by no means paltry sums, but if you are paying Zlatan £200,000 a week (over £10 million a year) you definitely have a smaller pot of “profit” to sign your £100 million man from.

Garbh Madigan, Pundit Arena

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:27pm On Jul 29, 2016
Diademk07:


Lol!
See exaggeration at its best! Why don't they find out how much sales Ronaldo's shirt made in a year at Madrid. It wasn't even up to 13mil euros but Zlatan will finance Pogba fees? Lol!
People should know the club only get 10% cut of the sale.

I agree with you totally. Even cash cows like Neymar, Messi or Cr7 has never sold such in a week, how much Zlatan.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:29pm On Jul 29, 2016
Diademk07:


Did you read the article?
what exactly are you contesting?
The reported sale in a week? OR
The % to club coffers? OR both.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 8:30pm On Jul 29, 2016
dopeJemi:


Your name na timothy?
SailorXY:
no na Mensah. You no sabi say he from Tema?

So ur name na Fosu-Mensah?? Awesome. grin grin
dopeJemi:


Serious?


grin

All join
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:31pm On Jul 29, 2016
sinizia:


I agree with you totally. Even cash cows like Neymar, Messi or Cr7 has never sold such in a week, how much Zlatan.
do you know Martial, Bastian & Rooney sold more shirts than Neymar last season?
Infact Bastian saw a rise of over 790% demand from his Bayern days.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:34pm On Jul 29, 2016
SailorXY:
do you know Martial sold more shirts than Neymar last season?

Yes , I know that. The keyword is the 'week' in my post. Zlatan will fetch that purported amount but not in a week. Zlatan's jerseys are barely a week old.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:37pm On Jul 29, 2016
SailorXY, the link you dropped didn't show the span of days, weeks or months with which Cr7 jerseys out-sold the amount he's bought with.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:39pm On Jul 29, 2016
sinizia:
Yes , I know that. The keyword is the 'week' in my post. Zlatan will fetch that purported amount but not in a week. Zlatan's jerseys are barely a week old.
I can't start disputing figures from markets I don't know how they run.
One underlying factor you cannot ignore tho, is the effect of a new high profile signing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:42pm On Jul 29, 2016
sinizia:
SailorXY, the link you dropped didn't show the span of days, weeks or months with which Cr7 jerseys out-sold the amount he's bought with.
if experts were predicting that in the 6-years of his contract he'd more than make up the fees splashed on him, then it's safe to conclude these were shortly after he sign for Madrid.

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