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Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 3:15am On Feb 21, 2012
Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome has stated as Errors
1. Isaac is not Abraham’s seed

2. There is no mediator in the New Testament

3. You’re not told to obey in the New Testament

4. Jesus is not the word of God now “Entrance of thy word teaching” Jesus is no longer the word of God? Because we are and I am because Jesus is in heaven God he gives you his word in order to make you his word, so Jesus is no longer the word we are we? The trees clap in the presence of the congregation of the gods he states the trees are clapping over us from the book of (Isaiah55: 12 You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands.)

Jesus is no longer the word of GOD you are and we are God gives you his word in order to make you his word yet the bible tell a different story (Revelation 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.) (John1:1) (Revelation21:6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. (NIV) John 15:3 you are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.

5. God wants you rich

6. We are spirit beings

7. They call him Father
1. Some have said you are interferer in mens afairs (Y) Fine
2. Some People say you are Jesus Christ in a white suite? (X)(X) (N.I.V)Matthew 24:4-5,11,14,24-26-51
3. Your our life coach (X) (N.I.V)Matthew 23:10
4. Your our teacher (X) (N.I.V) (Matthew 10:24 Matthew 23:8
5. Your our father (X)(X) Matthew 23:9
6. Your Our Daddy (X)(X) Matthew 23:9
7. We glory in your bossem (X)(X) (K.J.V) 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 (Romans 15:17).
8. Your our prophet (X) 50% right
9. Your Our man of god (Y) 50% right
10. Your a Gift to the World (X) (K.J.V) John 3:16
11. God gave you as a Gift to the World (X) (K.J.V) John 3:16
12. You Have Made Us Champions For Life (X) (K.J.V) Hebrews 12:2
13. You’re the best there is no one like you (Y) 50% right, Matthew 23:11-12
14. Pastor (Y) Ephesians 4:11 100% right
15. Your are God’s General (Y) 50% right

8. They called (Pastor. Anita, Oyakhilome) Mother of god they call her Mama The member say you have given birth to us we at “Christ embassy” are your sons and daughters

9. He is a god

10. Christianity is not a religion yet it is in the bible 7 times and religious 5 time in the (niv)

11. Christianity does not mean God with us) it’s Christ in us alone he said people have got it wrong? This was said during the higher life conference (U.S.A) 2010

12. This was said during the higher life conference (U.S.A) 2010 There is no one in the bible that he can think of in heaven that was poor point 1 only 3 people are in heaven the now from earth 1 Enoch 2 Elijah 3 Jesus they were all rich and that is his reason for being rich none where poor? There was only one (Lazarus was poor) and he was rich because he was in Abrahams bosom. Correction 1 Steven was not rich the man on the cross was not rich yet he will be with him in heaven? Moses he said was he was “Rich” he was not rich that is wrong (Moses did not have any worldly wealth it was against the law for them have wealth, for God was there inheritance in the land) Levites did not have a portion in the land of Israel

13. He quote that David was the one that made a statement when in fact it was Solomon

14. “Christ is a place” in the rhapsody of reality. Christ is a person we become part of him but not a place?

15. Pastor Chris said that Christianity is not God with us, but GOD in us? Wrong it is both now and to come and forever in the future?

16. If you ask anything from father in the name of Jesus and you will get it? (wrong partly? only if it is according to Gods will) we have not cause we ask not but ask a miss that we can consume is upon our own lusts) you must ask it according to scripture? (James 4:3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.) 1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
1 John 5:14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
1 John 5:15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.

17. self-service (self-service is not a sin against God in its self) many Christian think it is sin against God it is a bad habit apparently it has nothing to do with God at all its your own body you needed to stop it just a habit and the devil makes you condemned change the habit the bible does not mention it anywhere wrong very wrong? This was said on the pastor Chris live. 5:30 pm Sunday 12th June 2011 (2 Peter 2:1) But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

18. Just like smoking is not a sin in Christ Embassy

19. In order to be sick as a Christian you must be back sliding and stop being a Christian and Christians don’t get mentally I’ll said on pastor Chris live on TV and tom time (5:30pm Date Sunday 19/6/11)


20. There is no mediator in the New Testament

21. Nowhere does it say in the New Testament that we are told to “Obey

22. Christianity did not start at the cross it start at the resurrection, but in order to believe in his death you must believe in the resurrection, so Christianity start at the resurrection? But does it in fact started at the cross when Jesus dies for the worlds sins, the term Christian did not start until the book of (Acts 11:26) another lie with “Pastor Chris”

23. Baptism for children is fine even if their parents are in the lord

24. The word goes to your “spirit” wait I thought it went to your “mind” but the spirit brought it into your mind? Why do people never question things or read the word?

25. You should cream your dream if you get a bicycle and keep the car and throws the bike away? This is wrong that is why the Japanese over run china during world war 2 using bikes and the German war machine stopped in it track for lack of fuel at the battle of the bulge think not ever problem is nail and not every solution is hammer it might be a screen you will need a screw driver

26. He teaches that we are savours and he uses the (king James bible) to confirm this doctrine mixed with we are gods implying we are Christ meaning little Christ’s? The passages he uses is taken from these verses which out of context this reasoning comes out the book of (Obadiah1:17,21) delivers will come out of Zion and Zion is not a place it is a destination so the members see them self’s as “Christ”?

27. (Not everyone can use the name of “JESUS” only his followers) (Rubbish everyone can use the name those who are for us are not against us (Mark 9:38"Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us."(Mark 9:39"Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, Mark 9:40for whoever is not against us is for us.) Jesus said because people using the name of Jesus and they use scripture from act son Jesus I know Paul I know but we don’t know you (Acts 19:11-19)

28. Ask Pastor Chris a question? A woman asked is it ok to get her tubes tided she meaning, her “fallopian tube” sterilised he told her to see the doctor this woman was told it is ok to get sterilized what does the bible teach well it tells you clearly to be fruitful and increase upon the earth the fruit of the womb is a blessing he did not even tell her to read the bible about this it is very much the same as Sodom and Gomorra

29. He said we are part of the God kind and he said it is currently translated wrong in the (KJV) of the scripture? It is not nature but God kind (2 Peter 1:4 whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.) (NIV) 2 Peter 1:4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.{read this (Young’s Analytical Concordance) ( Page 588) Greek 2. Nature “Phusis” not the word for God is Greek “Theos” (page 419) so easy to see the word does not make us part of the GOD KIND false prophet debunked}

30. “It is a sin to be poor” (Time 18:43 Sunday) (Date 07.08.2011) (Pastor Chris live) It is a sin to be poor no Christian should be poor? poverty start in the garden of Eden this was said on ask a question it is not wrong to be born poor but you should not remain poor as a Christian it is a sin to remain poor

31. “The Consummate Man” “Sermon” there is no incompetent in me, I am competent there is some that say quote the Apostle Paul which says there is nothing good in me like the flesh but I can’t be incompetent I am in the spirit? So I can’t make errors (Romans 7:18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.)and if someone speaks against me I never repay them with the evil but only with good Pastor Chris,

32. Faster crisp “worth hearing” Being roasted with the words of our very own “Hell Boy” our very own supper demigod, He tends to association wealth with righteousness I am the righteousness of God the fact I am rich means I am righteous but there is many in the bible that where rich even Solomon in the end turned wicked yet he was rich and wise like no other his early writings where perfect but in old age

33. (GOD is not limited) this was said during his bible seminar series (28/10/2011) (13:00) but this not true there is many things God cannot do here is a list? God can not lie (Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?)1 Samuel 15:29 He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a man, that he should change his mind."Titus 1:2 a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,

34. Hebrews 6:18 God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged.
35. God cannot break his word
36. God cannot change what has gone out of his mouth
37. God cannot do evil
38. God cannot sin
39. God cannot be around sin

40. In other words he must keep to his own words almost like the perfect gentleman which is crude description but accurate?

41. Pastor Chris said on the (time 13:1401.11.2011) this was during the bible seminary in Nigeria for ministers? He said the jars they were full of dirty water from cleansing at the wedding where Jesus turned water into wine (John 2:4-6-11) they are dirty because of the cleansing which is wrong Stone water jars at Qumran during the wedding which is another they held water and where clean because there for ceremonial duties.

42. Christianity is not a religion yet it appears (5) times in the Bible (NIV) and he uses religious costumes during services the people have been double crossed? How many times the word “Religious” (7) appears in the (NIV) bible How many times the word “Religion” (5) appears in the (KJV) bible How many times the word “Religious” (2) appears in the (KJV) bible

43. The gospel is not a promise? It means good news said on “Arise and shine broadcast” It means “God spell” good news

44. A Christian cannot be possessed with evil spirits “Arise and shine broadcast”

45. “We are the glory of God” Also in rhapsody of reality share your victory, program and this is common in the church we are the glory of God? (This was to do with prayer point on “Yokoos” with Pastor Chris) and (This is blasphemy) the presenter is “Pastor Val” she is a pastor from Colchester Christ embassy (December 30th time 6:05pm)

46. Jesus name, can only be used by Christians? They are the only ones licenced to use the name of JESUS but this is not true Jesus disciples come across men using the “name Jesus” and they were not believers the thought should we stop them he said those are for us are not against us? (NIV) Mark 9:38 "Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us."(NIV) Mark 9:39 "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me,(NIV) Mark 9:40 for whoever is not against us is for us.(NIV) Mark
9:41 I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward.Their reasoning is this they use book of acts some Jews who were driving out demons but the demons they beat up them up when using the name of Jesus (NIV) Acts 19:13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out."(NIV)
Acts19:14Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. (NIV) Acts19:15One day the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?"(NIV) Acts19:16Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house Unclad and bleeding.(NIV) Acts 19:17 When this became known to the Jews and Greeks living in Ephesus, they were all seized with fear, and the name of the Lord Jesus was held in high honour.(NIV) Acts 19:18 Many of those who believed now came and openly confessed their evil deeds.(NIV) Acts 19:19 A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When they calculated the value of the scrolls, the total came to fifty thousand drachmas.(NIV) Acts 19:20 In this way the word of the Lord spread widely and grew in power.


47. Acts 19:20 Paul in the city of Ephesus “So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed”. The peace of Jerusalem is Jesus said during atmosphere for miracles

48. They use the Eucharist in communion services in a catholic way

49. There called a universal church this means catholic

50. The wealth of the ungodly is stored up for the righteous (Proverbs 13:22 A good man leaves an inheritance for his children's children, but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous.) he said don’t think like that because who wants the second hand goods we should think this way because we are on higher class and level why should we wait on the ungodly dyeing to get used goods we should make our own way? God is So, so rich we don’t want worn out things this was asked to him in south Africa he said this at the higher life conference

51. There is no one left in the earth that is a descendent of Cain and some say this is the sign a man which was on Cain they made him black man he said there wrong he is getting the names confused the man asked was being black part of the curse of Cain murdering some have used this to justify slavery mark on his head was a blessing point of confusion? The Canaan was the father of ham, and was the black man I am working debunking this I know what he was saying was not based on scripture?

52. They state Pastor Anita Oyakhilome: 26th February birthday on here birthday this she is the mother of God the members call her mother mama she is full of grace she gave birth to them

53. They said she “is the light of the word” and a gift to the world a wise woman for this generation

54. (John 8:12) Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

55. A Christian should not be sin conscious because a Christian can’t sin Jesus died for their sins said at the higher life conference 2011) A Christian should not be sin conscious because he should not be thinking sin

56. (Pastor Chris said this on live TV broad cast 1/4/2012 5pm) Quote (Tattoos are not mentioned in the bible and the bible does not talk about tattoos anywhere in the entire bible?) so that is that he gave advice I can’t think of anything in the bible that mentions tattoos so you should only be concerned about permanent tattoos because your making changes in your body? But what does bible say (NIV) Leviticus 19:28 "'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

57. (Bible Seminar Teaching Series Volume 2) (Date 13/4/2012 Time 7am GMT) he was teaching on the book of (James 4 smiley “He said it is not talking to the church but to your body” which is it is not the truth? Yet at the start of the letter in (Chapter 1) to the churches it states it is the lost tribes in the world, and the chapter in fact is talking about people in the group which would the church judging summiting to God and it is also talking to a person and persons meaning the people of the church?

58. Title: “Money seeds” (Date 13/4/2012) is the latest false teaching from the rhapsody of Reality you must sow money to get money?
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by Goshen360(m): 4:03am On Feb 21, 2012
Apostasy watch! Coming soon.
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by FXKing2012(m): 7:40am On Feb 21, 2012
Here we go again, all these anti-Christs and atheists being used by the devil to bring down powerful men of God. You all will fail and the devil who is instructing you to do these things will lead you all to hell with him.
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 1:24pm On Feb 21, 2012
well i hope you like the post  lipsrsealed lipsrsealed undecided
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by freshcvv(m): 1:25pm On Feb 21, 2012
@FXKing2012

Sorry but who's a man of God?

 I thought the bible says as many that receive him, they are the sons of God?


Now answer me, did he say these things or not?
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 1:34pm On Feb 21, 2012
he said all these things i have proof of them all in books and videos and some are online i am the one that posted the video


ma.st.ur.ba.tion is not sin Pastor Chris Oyakhilome says? Really full version for all the doubters?

that is just one in hunderds of videos i have and book like the Rhapsody of realities


Rhapsody of realities and the false teaching of Christ Embassy
Date 15th February 2012 Wednesday
1 “Productivity”

Key word here “Productivity” this reveals the true mind set of the church and the pastors in charge of it is all about production and making more of an increasing faith in the almighty manna, which is money,  their language is clear and truly revealing as Someone once said:
Dr Samuel Johnson Born on 18 September 1709 "Language is the dress of thought"
This shows the true version of their Christianity and it is a business model to these “Spiritual Entrepreneurs"
Their own speech and language betrays them and tells us a hidden truth about them?
2. God has never made a failure; 3. that He gave birth to you means you’re a success already.

1 Thessalonians 2:18 For we wanted to come to you-certainly I, Paul, did, again and again-but Satan stopped us.
See even apostle Paul was stop he failed sometimes proof for those who doubt me
On a good note this is positive and a welcoming thought, we all need encouragement in times of darkness, but what we don’t need is a false representation of the word truth which this statement reveals it is a “Think Positive Gospel” but it is not the “Gospel of Christ” and Jesus told us in the world we would have tribulation but be of good cheer I have overcome the world.
John 16:33 "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."
But there is hope here in this passage, but there is also tribulation which is a fact of life in this world, but in “Christ Embassy” you as a child of God you will never have this because your born again and you are gods which is a lie, one (you are not a gods) we are “god like beings” second there is not one apostle that did not have trouble or tribulations
The key word here is tribulation how can you be a success if you were told you would have tribulation which would lead to sickness and pain and suffering unclothedness and poverty like Jesus said we would have the poor always with us but me meaning Jesus you shall not always have?
4. Sickness, poverty, disease, death and defeat are not consistent with your life;
Now I know the next comment I will get is this I will be called a baby who is in “Spiritual Darkness” but the apostle Paul was sick and there is many cases in the bible where people where sick and they were believers there was an article in the December issue in the 15th as well saying much the same thing this is more than likely ill-conceived attempt at spiritual regurgitation bring up the same old thing over and over again?
But I would say I have a book that commands us to have “None of These Lies” and it is none other than the “Holy Bible” its self the embodiment of truth?
Here is a list of things and the reason why you get sick according to the this church “Teaching and Thinking” and there reasoning for being “Sick”  is this, it could be the fact that I am not “Speak in Tongues” enough or you’re not “Born Again” or “Backsliding” or your “Understanding is Lacking” in regards to the word of God, or you’re not in the “Vine” meaning “Christ” because children of God and “Zion” don’t get “Sick” even lol the “Paul the Apostle” was “Sick” which some translation call “illness” “infirmities” and others call it “Weakness” and others call “Sickness” yet he was a child of “Zion” according to “Christ Embassy” teaching yet the “Paul the Apostle” was sick?
Here is Brief History of the Apostle’s Pauls Sickness
“Formatia trans sicere educatorum” the Latin means  “Enter All Ye Who Seek Knowledge”
Here is the proof for the unlearned in the church, from the bible, the foundation of all knowledge.
Pauls Vision on the Road to Damascus

(KJV) Acts 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

(KJV) Acts 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

(KJV) Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

(KJV) Acts 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

(KJV) Acts 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

(KJV) Acts 9:8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.

(KJV) Acts 9:9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

(KJV) Acts 9:10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.

(KJV) Acts 9:11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

(KJV) Acts 9:12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

(KJV) Acts 9:13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

(KJV) Acts 9:14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

(KJV) Acts 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

(KJV) Acts 9:16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

(KJV) Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightiest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

(KJV) Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

This is where Paul got his illness from which is proof positive?

(KJV) 2 Corinthians11:30 If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:5 I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weaknesses.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:6 Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:7 To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me.

(KJV) 2 Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
(NIV) 1 Timothy 1:15 Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst.
(KJV) 1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

(NIV) Galatians 4:13 As you know, it was because of an illness that I first preached the gospel to you.

(NIV) Galatians 4:14 Even though my illness was a trial to you, you did not treat me with contempt
or scorn. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself.

(NIV) 1 Timothy 5:23 Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.

(NIV)  Thessalonians 2:17 But, brothers, when we were torn away from you for a short time (in person, not in thought), out of our intense longing we made every effort to see you.

(NIV)  Thessalonians 2:18 For we wanted to come to you-- certainly I, Paul, did, again and again-- but Satan stopped us.

(NIV)  Thessalonians 2:19 For what is our hope, our joy, or the crown in which we will glory in the presence of our Lord Jesus when he comes? Is it not you?

(NIV)  Thessalonians 2:20 Indeed, you are our glory and joy.

5. they’re not part of your "spiritual DNA."
Well Spirit does not have “D.N.A” this is preposterous to think along these lines only the very spiritually ignorant would even use such crowd metaphors, because the word of God, tells you clearly spirit is not based on the physical but on the spirit its self, spirit can only give birth to spirit as the book of john states clearly as the passages reveals below:
(NIV) John 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit.
God is Spirit
John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."
But the physical is a shadow of things to come that is why the tabernacle was built in such a way to give representation to the heavenly tabernacle but to say spirit has “D.N.A” which It has “NOT” the term “D.N.A” (Deoxyribonucleic acid)
(NIV) John 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
1 John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
What will we be like when he comes Jesus Christ that is easy to see the bible spells is out clear as crystal the answer is and “angel” or better put “Spirit Beings” but notice he did not say Gods like he teaches? And we will be god like beings
Mark 12:25For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
So this exposes (Pastor Anita Oyakhilome) “her school girl errors” in teaching and these people writing this are meant to be the best of the spiritual crop this only reveals there ignorance and poor quality of teaching where did he (Pastor Chris Oyakhilome) get is (P.H.D) from it does not even tell you what his (P.H.D) is in it could be pluming for all we know?
6. God made you for His glory; 7. therefore your life is to the praise and glory of His Name;
This is wrong we were “made to give him glory” and not made for his glory; even thou God gets glory from us he does not need a thing from man, but I know this is classic “Christ Embassy” teaching from (Pastor Chris Oyakhilome) but the bible reveals another story all together? Here this passage below showing clearly Gods mind once again over ruling man kind
(NIV) Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images.--

This passage show God does not share his glory with no one

This shows clear what (Pastor Chris Oyakhilome) is doing is usurping the very glory of God for himself and the members of the church and the people are so charmed with the school boy smile they don’t see how terrible his deception is it is utter blasphemy to the highest order?

Coupling it with his other teaching on “we are gods” which is also another  “false teaching” based on partly wrong translation form the “Masoretic text” it actually says “we are god like beings” in the Hebrew I know I have translated this myself using a computer?

Psalms Chapter 82 תְּהִלִּים
ו  אֲנִי-אָמַרְתִּי, אֱלֹהִים אַתֶּם;    וּבְנֵי עֶלְיוֹן כֻּלְּכֶם. 6 I said: Ye are godlike beings, and all of you sons of the Most High.
(KJV) Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
This shows now the clear ignorance of these people who don’t know there bibles or run after truth like there life’s depend on it, because your life does depend on it? There nothing more than slick business people, making dims into dollars out of the precious truth of the Gospel there nothing more blind guides, there not even theologies they carve up the word like it a Sunday roast at the meal table? Devouring it for personal gain?

8. never look down on yourself.
This is part of another teaching which he (Pastor Chris Oyakhilome) says your made in the image of God so don’t speak against Gods workman ship this is to silence reason in the person so you will not question anyone in the church hence, he is mentally disarming you in short your put in metal chains and become a spiritual slave to their ministry?
9. You’re the glory of God.
This is got be said this is the most blasphemies thing I have ever heard come out of a man’s mouth this is the same as Satan did he will be like the most high he will exalt himself above the most high God throne? Satan want to get all the glory for himself he was not content with being number 3 covering angel so hatched a plan to take the throne of God?
(KJV) Isaiah 14:13 For you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the farthest sides of the north:
(NIV) Isaiah 14:13 You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain
Now we know that some blasphemies can be forgiven but I would charge anyone to never do it in the first place and this call yourself the glory of God is an abomination 
Shekinah (alternative transliterations Shekinah, Shechinah, Shekina, Shechina, Schechinah, שכינה) is the English spelling of a grammatically feminine Hebrew word that means the dwelling or settling, and is used to denote the dwelling or settling divine presence of God, especially in the Temple in Jerusalem. It also means the presence of God in where his spirit comes down tabernacle it translates as “Glory”
Glory (from the Latin gloria, "fame, renown"wink is used to denote the manifestation of God's presence in the Christian religious tradition. God's glory is often associated with visible displays of light, e.g. thunderbolts, fire, brightness.
quote] "Glory" is one of the most common words in scripture. In the Old Testament, the word is used to translate several Hebrew words, including Hod (הוד) and kabod; and in the New Testament it is used to translate the Greek word doxa (δόξα). The Hebrew word kabod (K-B-D) originally means "weight" or "heaviness." The same word is then used to express importance, honor, and majesty. Greek versions of the Hebrew Bible translated this concept with the word doxa, which was then used extensively in the New Testament as well. Doxa originally means "judgment, opinion", and by extension, "good reputation, honor". Assuming that these various words and uses should refer to a single underlying concept, St. Augustine renders it as clara notitia cumlaude, "brilliant celebrity with praise".
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These words above and there terms are now explained for the layman to understand we can now see this is not based on the scripture?
“We cannot be the glory of God” and this is clearly a false teaching and “Blasphemy” and this is leading to idolatry which there introducing through
(NIV) Matthew 12:31 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
Once again here is another scripture showing God does not share his glory
And God goes further and says it has to do with profaning his name
For how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another.--
Isaiah 48:11 For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; For how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another.--
And before the usual we are his radiance and glory like they teach in the church this scripture show the Son is the radiance of God's glory read it this is clear?
(NIV) Hebrews 1:3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

KJV) Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: [/quote
This is another attempted with your demigod to make himself a god and now shows there is no level he tries excel and exalt himself to if he keeps teaching and claiming he is the glory of God then he is an antichrist?
[quote] 2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Read the rest of this chapter yourself and it will become clear (2 Thessalonians 2smiley
10.  It doesn’t matter what your experiences may have been; believe and receive the Word of God to you today. Refuse and refute any description that tends to portray you otherwise.
This is telling the members you don’t listen to your circumstance and people that is how some in the church would translate this passage here.
11.  Call yourself what God has called you. He has made you healthy, victorious, 12 .  super-intelligent, 13. prosperous, strong, influential and rich!
This is a joke seeing they can’t even reason out the word of truth in scripture
12 .  super-intelligent
14. Therefore, say "Yes, Lord, I’m what you say I am. I’m healthy, victorious, super-intelligent, prosperous, strong, influential and rich!"

1 Thessalonians 2:18 For we wanted to come to you-certainly I, Paul, did, again and again-but Satan stopped us.

14. Therefore, say "Yes,
This is called the power of suggestion telling you; what to think this I mind over matter?
Cogito ergo sum (French: "Je pense donc je suis"; English: "I think, therefore I am"wink is a philosophical Latin statement proposed by René Descartes. The simple meaning of the phrase is that someone wondering whether or not he or she exists is, in and of itself, proof that something, an "I", exists to do the thinking — However this "I" is not the more or less permanent person we call "I". It may be that the something that thinks is purely momentary, and not the same as the something which has a different thought the next moment.
This is simple I thinking therefore “I think so I am” this one “O” one philosophy here for the simple?
Pavlov effect the virtual bell on the cash machine gets rung for the members with the key words below:
14. He has made you healthy,
victorious,
super-intelligent
prosperous
strong
influential and rich
14. ! Therefore, say "Yes, Lord, I’m what you say I am. I’m healthy, victorious, super-intelligent, prosperous, strong, influential and rich!"
This is nothing more than some person using the carrot and stick for the donkey routine?
(NIV) Luke 12:15 Then he said to them, "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions."
There being conditioned and they don’t know it very sad
15. Believe and keep talking like this everyday!
16. Some people may say you’re boasting,
17 but as Pastor Chris always says, "Keep saying it; don’t stop talking it!"
18. Keep declaring who you are;
This reveals the minds set of all these Christ Embassy people chasing a treasure pot at the end of rainbow they may as well believe in “little Green Leprechaun”
19. He gave birth to you to show you off as first-class and the crown of all His creation

Psalm 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Hebrews 2:6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?

Confession
20. My life is for the glory of God! I’m created for success and the good life;
21. I have in me the indestructible life,
22. therefore I can never be defeated!
23. I walk in health, victory, prosperity and strength today, because the Greater One lives in me!
[quote]22.  therefore I can never be defeated! I walk in health, victory, prosperity and strength today, because the Greater One lives in me!
1 Thessalonians 2:18 For we wanted to come to you-certainly I, Paul, did, again and again-but Satan stopped us.
















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Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by newmi(m): 2:12pm On Feb 21, 2012
Anti-PastChris:

Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome has stated as Errors

1. Isaac is not Abraham’s seed

2. There is no mediator in the New Testament
3. You’re not told to obey in the New Testament

4. Jesus is no longer the word of GOD you are and we are God gives you his word in order to make you his word yet the bible tell a different story (Revelation 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.) (John1:1) (Revelation21:6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the

End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. (NIV) John 15:3 you are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.

5. God wants you rich
6. We are spirit beings
7. They call him Father
1. Some have said you are interferer in mens afairs (Y) Fine
2. Some People say you are Jesus Christ in a white suite? (X)(X) (N.I.V)Matthew 24:4-5,11,14,24-26-51
3. Your our life coach (X) (N.I.V)Matthew 23:10
4. Your our teacher (X) (N.I.V) (Matthew 10:24 Matthew 23:8
5. Your our father (X)(X) Matthew 23:9
6. Your Our Daddy (X)(X) Matthew 23:9
7. We glory in your bossem (X)(X) (K.J.V) 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 (Romans 15:17).
8. Your our prophet (X) 50% right
9. Your Our man of god (Y) 50% right
10. Your a Gift to the World (X) (K.J.V) John 3:16
11. God gave you as a Gift to the World (X) (K.J.V) John 3:16

12. You Have Made Us Champions For Life (X) (K.J.V) Hebrews 12:2

13. You’re the best there is no one like you (Y) 50% right, Matthew 23:11-12

14. Pastor (Y) Ephesians 4:11 100% right

15. Your are God’s General  (Y) 50% right

8. They called (Pastor. Anita, Oyakhilome) Mother of god they call her Mama The member say you have given birth to us we at “Christ embassy” are your sons and daughters

9. He is a god

10. Christianity does not mean God with us) it’s Christ in us alone he said people have got it wrong? This was said during the higher life conference (U.S.A) 2010

11. This was said during the higher life conference (U.S.A) 2010 There is no one in the bible that he can think of in heaven that was poor point 1 only 3 people are in heaven the now from earth 1 Enoch 2 Elijah 3 Jesus they were all rich and that is his reason for being rich none where poor? There was only one (Lazarus was poor) and he was rich because he was in Abrahams bosom. Correction 1 Steven was not rich the man on the cross was not rich yet he will be with him in heaven? Moses he said was he was “Rich” he was not rich that is wrong (Moses did not have any worldly wealth it was against the law for them have wealth, for God was there inheritance  in the land) Levites did not have a portion in the land of Israel

12. He quote that David was the one that made a statement when in fact it was Solomon 

13. “Christ is a place” in the rhapsody of reality. Christ is a person we become part of him but not a place?

14. Pastor Chris said that Christianity is not God with us, but GOD in us? Wrong it is both now and to come and forever in the future?

15. If you ask anything from father in the name of Jesus and you will get it? (wrong partly? only if it is according to Gods will) we have not cause we ask not but ask a miss that we can consume is upon our own lusts) you must ask it according to scripture? (James 4:3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.)

16. self-service (self-service is not a sin against God in its self) many Christian think it is sin against God it is a bad habit apparently it has nothing to do with God at all its your own body you needed to stop it just a habit and the devil makes you condemned change the habit the bible does not mention it anywhere wrong very wrong? This was said on the pastor Chris live. 5:30 pm Sunday 12th June 2011 (2 Peter 2:1) But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

17. Just like smoking is not a sin in Christ Embassy

18. In order to be sick as a Christian you must be back sliding and stop being a Christian and Christians don’t get mentally I’ll said on pastor Chris live on TV and tom time (5:30pm Date Sunday 19/6/11) 

19. Jesus is not the word of God now “Entrance of thy word teaching” Jesus is no longer the word of God? Because we are and I am because Jesus is in heaven God he gives you his word in order to make you his word, so Jesus is no longer the word we are we? The trees clap in the presence of the congregation of the gods he states the trees are clapping over us from the book of (Isaiah55: 12 You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands.)

20. There is no mediator in the New Testament

21. Nowhere does it say in the New Testament that we are told to “Obey

22. Christianity did not start at the cross it start at the resurrection, but in order to believe in his death you must believe in the resurrection, so Christianity start at the resurrection? But does it in fact started at the cross  when Jesus dies for the worlds sins, the term Christian did not start until the book of (Acts 11:26) another lie with “Pastor Chris”

23. Baptism for children is fine even if their parents are in the lord

24. The word goes to your “spirit” wait I thought it went to your “mind” but the spirit brought it into your mind? Why do people never question things or read the word?

25. You should cream your dream if you get a bicycle and keep the car and throws the bike away? This is wrong that is why the Japanese over run china during world war 2 using bikes and the German war machine stopped in it track for lack of fuel at the battle of the bulge think not ever problem is nail and not every solution is hammer it might be a screen you will need a screw driver

26. He teaches that we are savours and he uses the (king James bible) to confirm this doctrine mixed with we are gods implying we are Christ meaning little Christ’s? The passages he uses is taken from these verses which out of context this reasoning comes out the book of (Obadiah1:17,21) delivers will come out of Zion and Zion is not a place it is a destination so the members see them self’s as “Christ”?

27. (Not everyone can use the name of “JESUS” only his followers) (Rubbish everyone can use the name those who are for us are not against us (Mark 9:38"Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us."(Mark 9:39"Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, Mark 9:40for whoever is not against us is for us.) Jesus said because people using the name of Jesus and they use scripture from act son Jesus I know Paul I know but we don’t know you (Acts 19:11-19)

28. Ask Pastor Chris a question? A woman asked is it ok to get her tubes tided she meaning, her “fallopian tube” sterilised he told her to see the doctor this woman was told it is ok to get sterilized what does the bible teach well it tells you clearly to be fruitful and increase upon the earth the fruit of the womb is a blessing he did not even tell her to read the bible about this it is very much the same as Sodom and Gomorra

29. He said we are part of the God kind and he said it is currently translated wrong in the (KJV) of the scripture? It is not nature but God kind (2 Peter 1:4 whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.) (NIV) 2 Peter 1:4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.{read this (Young’s Analytical Concordance) ( Page 588) Greek 2. Nature “Phusis” not the word for God is Greek “Theos” (page 419) so easy to see the word does not make us part of the GOD KIND false prophet debunked}

30. “It is a sin to be poor” (Time 18:43 Sunday) (Date 07.08.2011) (Pastor Chris live) It is a sin to be poor no Christian should be poor? poverty start in the garden of Eden this was said on ask a question it is not wrong to be born poor but you should not remain poor as a Christian it is a sin to remain poor

31. “Consulate man” “Sermon” there is no incompetent in me, I am competent there is some that say quote the Apostle Paul which says there is nothing good in me like the flesh but I can’t be incompetent I am in the spirit? So I can’t make errors (Romans 7:18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.)and if someone speaks against me I never repay them with the evil but only with good Pastor Chris,

32. Faster crisp “worth hearing” Being roasted with the words of our very own “Hell Boy” our very own supper demigod, He tends to association wealth with righteousness I am the righteousness of God the fact I am rich means I am righteous but there is many in the bible that where rich even Solomon in the end turned wicked yet he was rich and wise like no other his early writings where perfect but in old age

33. (GOD is not limited) this was said during his bible seminar series (28/10/2011) (13:00) but this not true there is many things God cannot do here is a list? God can not lie (Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?)1 Samuel 15:29 He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a man, that he should change his mind."Titus 1:2 a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,
Hebrews 6:18 God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged.

God cannot break his word

God cannot change what has gone out of his mouth

God cannot do evil

God cannot sin

God cannot be around sin

In other words he must keep to his own words almost like the perfect gentleman which is crude description but accurate?
Pastor Chris said on the (time 13:1401.11.2011) this was during the bible seminary in Nigeria for ministers? He said the jars they were full of dirty water from cleansing at the wedding where Jesus turned water into wine (John 2:4-6-11) they are dirty because of the cleansing which is wrong Stone water jars at Qumran during the wedding which is another they held water and where clean because there for ceremonial duties.
Christianity is not a religion yet it is the 7 time in the bible and he uses religious costumes
The gospel is not a promise? It means good news said on “Arise and shine broadcast” It means “God spell” good news

A Christian cannot be possessed with evil spirits “Arise and shine broadcast”
“We are the glory of God” Also in rhapsody of reality share your victory, program and this is common in the church we are the glory of God? (This was to do with prayer point on “Yokoos” with Pastor Chris) and (This is blasphemy) the presenter is “Pastor Val” she is a pastor from Colchester Christ embassy (December 30th time 6:05pm)


Jesus name, can only be used by Christians? They are the only ones  licenced to use the name of JESUS but this is not true, because Jesus disciples come across men using the “name of Jesus”  and they were not believers  they thought they should  stop them Jesus said those who are for us are not against us? (NIV) Mark 9:38 "Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us."(NIV) Mark 9:39 "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me,(NIV) Mark 9:40 for whoever is not against us is for us.(NIV) Mark 9:41 I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward.Their reasoning is this they use book of acts some Jews who were driving out demons but the demons they beat up them up when using the name of Jesus (NIV) Acts 19:13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out."(NIV) Acts19:14Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. (NIV) Acts19:15One day the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?"(NIV) Acts19:16Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house Unclad and bleeding.(NIV) Acts 19:17 When this became known to the Jews and Greeks living in Ephesus, they were all seized with fear, and the name of the Lord Jesus was held in high honour.(NIV) Acts 19:18 Many of those who believed now came and openly confessed their evil deeds.(NIV) Acts 19:19 A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When they calculated the value of the scrolls, the total came to fifty thousand drachmas.(NIV) Acts 19:20 In this way the word of the Lord spread widely and grew in power.

Acts 19:20 Paul in the city of Ephesus “So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed”. The peace of Jerusalem is Jesus said during atmosphere for miracles

They use the Eucharist in communion services in a catholic way

There called a universal church this means catholic

The wealth of the ungodly is stored up for the righteous (Proverbs 13:22 A good man leaves an inheritance for his children's children, but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous.) he said don’t think like that because who wants the second hand goods we should think this way because we are on higher class and level why should we wait on the ungodly dyeing to get used goods we should make our own way? God is So, so rich we don’t want worn out things this was asked to him in south Africa he said this at the higher life conference

There is no one left in the earth that is a descendent of Cain and some say this is the sign a man which was on Cain they made him black man he said there wrong he is getting the names confused the man asked was being black part of the curse of Cain murdering some have used this to justify slavery mark on his head was a blessing point of confusion? The Canaan was the father of ham, and was the black man I am working debunking this I know what he was saying was not based on scripture ?

http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headlines/118146-nigerian-fake-pastors-and-church-businesses-exposed-video.html
Another attention seeking lunatic has surfaced again, anyway at first glance l have spotted serveral errors and gliches in his posts. l'll comment soon.
Mabell are you there?
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by mabell: 2:22pm On Feb 21, 2012
I dey gidigba o jare! This psycho is at it again o! Terrible
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 3:12pm On Feb 21, 2012
Christ is a place
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new

In John 14:2-3 Jesus said
“In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”

Many misinterpret this portion of Scripture to mean that when someone gives his life to Christ, God starts building a mansion for him (or her) in heaven. That’s not true. In the verse above, Jesus wasn’t talking about heaven. He was referring to our place in Christ.

There’re no mansions being built in heaven for anybody. The Bible says

all the works in heaven and in the earth were finished from the foundations of the world (Hebrews 4:3).

The angels aren’t building structures in heaven. Heaven is a beautiful place, and it’s already been built. The place Jesus went to prepare for us is our place in the right hand of the Father, where we now sit with Him in the heavenly realms, far above all principalities and powers. That place is also called Christ.

So, not only is Christ a Person, He’s also a place. That’s what the Apostle Paul alludes to in our opening scripture. We are in Christ.

We’ve been made to sit together with Him in heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6);

that the place Jesus went to prepare for us and we’re there now. You came into Christ when you were born again; it’s a heavenly realm called Zion, the city of the living God. That’s the city of our habitation:

Hebrews 12:22
“But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels”

In Christ there’s no sin, sickness, disease, failure, poverty, defeat, weakness or death; all you have is health, joy peace, success, strength, prosperity, beauty and life forevermore! That’s your place of inheritance; it’s the place of divine authority and power, where you reign and rule over satan and the cohorts of darkness.

So when you say “I’m in Christ,” you ought to understand the import of that statement, for it means that’s where you live; your address is Christ! Therefore, view the world from there.

You can make this declaration in Prayer:
Dear Father, I thank you, in the Name of Jesus, for raising me up and making me to sit together in heavenly places in Christ! Not only does Christ live in me, I’m in Christ, and I function from the heavenly realms of glory, as the heavenly man in Christ. Hallelujah

Further Study
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:
Lawsuits Among Believers

(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 1 If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people?
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 2 Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 4 Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church?
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 5 I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? 6 But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated?

(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters.
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who Be Intimate with men[a]
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

intimate Immorality

(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:12 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything.
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:13 You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for intimate immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:14 By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also.
15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a LovePeddler? Never!

(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a LovePeddler is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[b]
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.[c]
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from intimate immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
(NIV) 1 Corinthians 6: 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who Be Intimate with men translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in gay acts.
b.1 Corinthians 6:16 Gen. 2:24
c.1 Corinthians 6:17 Or in the Spirit

John 14:2 In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you.
Romans 8:17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.


Christ is a person and not a place we are part of him “Christ”  we are joined together with him join heirs with him does not mean he is destination 
But did you notice he put here there is no masons in heaven this not what the bible teaches it says there is rooms made for us
Denying the words of Jesus making him a liar which he is not


(NIV) 2 Timothy 2:13 if we are faithless, he will remain faithful, for he cannot disown himself.
2 Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

Titus 1:2 a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,
Clearly twisting scriptures to suite is invention of truth
They invented ways of doing evil?

(NIV) Romans 1:30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Wow them that call evil good and good evil?

(NIV) Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


2 Peter 3:14-18
(NIV) 2 Peter 3: 14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.
(NIV) 2 Peter 3:15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
(NIV) 2 Peter 3: 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
(NIV) 2 Peter 3: 17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.
Be Steadfast


2 Peter 3: 14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
2 Peter 3: 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
2 Peter 3: 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
2 Peter 3: 17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
2 Peter 3: 17 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.

2 Timothy 2:2 And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable people who will also be qualified to teach others.
This is what the scriptures: says: not many should be quick to call them self-teachers because teachers will be judge more harshly? It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living GOD?

James 3:1 Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you
know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

Hebrews 10:31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God!
Hebrews 10:31 [It is] a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Hebrews 10:31 It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Matthew 23:26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

Matthew 23:27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which looks beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.

Matthew 23:28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 3:28pm On Feb 21, 2012
The word (Heresies) in the scripture appears (3) in the (KJV)
11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness,
lasciviousness, 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

The word (Heresies) in the scripture appears (1) in the (NIV)
2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction


Counterfeit in the scriptures appears 2 time in (NIV)
(NIV)2 Thessalonians3:9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,

(NIV)1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

(KJV) 2 Thessalonians 3:9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.

(KJV) 1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him


so i am mad for telling you the truth to you false teachers

mabell Another attention seeking lunatic has surfaced again, anyway at first glance l have spotted serveral errors and gliches in his posts. l'll comment soon.
Mabell are you there?

How many times the word “Madness” appears (cool times in scriptures
Deuteronomy 28:28 The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind.

Ecclesiastes 1:17 Then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom, and also of madness and folly, but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind.

Ecclesiastes 2:12 Then I turned my thoughts to consider wisdom, and also madness and folly. What more can the king's successor do than what has already been done?

Ecclesiastes 8:25 So I turned my mind to understand, to investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things and to understand the stupidity of wickedness and the madness of folly.

Ecclesiastes 9:3 This is the evil in everything that happens under the sun: The same destiny overtakes all. The hearts of men, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterward they join the dead.

Ecclesiastes 11:13  At the beginning his words are folly; at the end they are wicked madness-

Zechariah 12:4 On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness," declares the Lord. "I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations.

2 Peter 2:16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey--a beast without speech--who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's madness.

Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by FXKing2012(m): 4:15pm On Feb 21, 2012
@Anti_PastChris, you are definitely anti-pastor Chris and u are an anti-Christ as well cos I've been seeing your dubious posts. You are an agent of the devil and yet again u wallow in ignorance going by your posts.
You are just pathetic and in need of help!

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Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 6:34pm On Feb 21, 2012
Well if I am the “Devil” grin grin wink then your “Church Christ Embassy” made me what I am today your false church, created and no you are wrong I love “Christ” and I am his servant now and for ever more I love the bible I beat it must really bother you wondering who this man is and yes I am a man?
If you people where faithful to the truth of the Gospel I would not be fighting you think about this for a moment
If you think this is bad I am just getting started very soon there was will be more videos like the self-service is not sin videos but in better quality see I am going to be on TV one day preaching the bible against all false teachers and false doctrine and yes if idiotic fool like me can poke holes in your paper tiger of a demigod  grin then that shows how weak in truth you really are this not the end but the beginning of the end for your church after I am finished with you the things you took from me you will wish you never took them?
Your false prophet is getting a big shake up
I am not standing for your get quick rich gospel
Your church is of the devil  tongue tongue tongue undecided undecided
And anyone who defends lies they are as guilty as those who preach them
(Sir Winston Churchill) once said this “the truth is so precious, that it has to be surrounded with a body guard of lies”
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

1 John 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Just like in the movie wizard of Oz when Dorothy is going to see the great and powerful OZ well they see there is a man behind the curtain and he tells them on the projection pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

So when you take the time to think examine yourself or thoughts or actions or what is going on around and you will see? Or are you just going ignore the man behind your curtain of the mind and the man in the pull pit preaching?
The bible says much the same?

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
2 Corinthians 13:6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates.


As one great scientist said once albert Einstein, God does not play dice?

but Pastor chris thinks to him self I play around with truth like I play cards with you

your the one letting him play dice with your life

beat on christ he is a safe beat and sure foundation

Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by mabell: 6:36pm On Feb 21, 2012
FXKing2012:

@Anti_PastChris, you are definitely anti-pastor Chris and u are an anti-Christ as well cos I've been seeing your dubious posts. You are an agent of the devil and yet again u wallow in ignorance going by your posts.
You are just pathetic and in need of help!
grin grin grin
Now you see
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by maddock(m): 7:46pm On Feb 21, 2012
Gosh na wah @op if u spend all this valuable time you used in chasing Pas Chris in pursuit of knowledge you might just stumble on another curative therapy for Cancer.smh

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Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by FXKing2012(m): 8:17pm On Feb 21, 2012
maddock:

Gosh na wah @op if u spend all this valuable time you used in chasing Pas Chris in pursuit of knowledge you might just stumble on another curative therapy for Cancer.smh

Abi oooo! Some people spend their entire lives chasing the downfall of others while those they are chasing keep waxing stronger and they (the chaser) remain stagnant in life.
@Anti-PastChris and @crossman had better go get a life and make something positive out of their lives rather than chasing the downfall of another man.
Sometimes I even wonder maybe it's a mental case.
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by oloriooko(m): 8:21pm On Feb 21, 2012
@ maddock
Gosh na wah @op if u spend all this valuable time you used in chasing Pas Chris in pursuit of knowledge you might just stumble on another curative therapy for Cancer.smh
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin cannot stop laughing

@ poster
you are actually a pro-pstchris cos if you could be so engulfed in all his teachings and materials to this extent, dude you are actually propagating his messages and teachings. are you sure you know what you doing? cos the man you are obviously behind trying to pursue is spreading and progressing at the speed of God.

if you think you can do better than he's presently doing then start your own ministry and do it your right way!
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by newmi(m): 8:53pm On Feb 21, 2012
@Mabell
so tell me what do you think about this anti-Chris(t) lolll?
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by Ngwakwe: 9:18pm On Feb 21, 2012
newmi:

@Mabell
so tell me what do you think about this anti-Chris(t) lolll?

Don't attack Anti-PastChris. Take him on all his write-ups and repudiate them one after another.

His debate is intelligent and precise. He is not confused in any form but quoting Pastor Chris and using Bible to highlight falsehoods in his teachings.

Fantastic and resourceful research I may say, if you think otherwise take him point by point while not attacking his personality. Thank you
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by Azibalua(f): 9:31pm On Feb 21, 2012
@ Anti - pastchris
Thanks for publishing the message
It's good for people to know that in Christ imcompetence does not exist but all round success and great ability ,that the wealth of the ungodly is stored up for the righteous, and also that we are the best of the best

Anyhow the gospel is being preached
Gracias!
grin"> grin
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by crossman9(m): 9:36pm On Feb 21, 2012
Believe me beating up on you  goons is a life challenge I spend all my days reading up on this false ministry  I have a ministry myself this is why I become so good in understand to their false teaching like this man I was part of the church for a long time?
They make peoples life’s a misery I will do better  
Join the fight for the gospel truth
Revelation 20:



Revelation 20:7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Revelation 20:8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Revelation 20:9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Revelation 20:10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by mabell: 9:37pm On Feb 21, 2012
newmi:

@Mabell
so tell me what do you think about this anti-Chris(t) lolll?

Idlemindedness : sad
Time wasting cry
Very sad indeed
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by mabell: 9:46pm On Feb 21, 2012
crossman9:

Believe me beating up on you  goons is a life challenge I spend all my days reading up on this false ministry  I have a ministry myself this is why I become so good in understand to their false teaching like this man I was part of the church for a long time?
They make peoples life’s a misery I will do better  
Join the fight for the gospel truth


Maybe that's the reason you are the way you are
You have carved out your own fantacies and live in them
Come out to reality
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 1:31am On Feb 23, 2012
Warnings and Encouragements

(NIV) Luke 12:1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be[a] on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

(NIV) Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.
These are the words of them talking and they were painstakingly typed out for all the defenders of evil pastors and there false doctrines?

I.e. Christ Embassy Members 




These are the words of them talking and they were painstakingly typed out for all the defenders of evil pastors and there false doctrines? I.e. Christ Embassy Members 
Who love there pastor more than the truth of the bible his word is God’s word to them
This shows the complete conflict of lies from  the truth form the bible which exposes them?
Transcribe for the spiritual blind people in Christ embassy


Rev. Ray Okocha (“Word Alive”. program)
Also the (Secretary-General) (Believer’s’ Love World Inc.)
Pastor Chris Oyakhilome:

From Kwaku (Ghana)

Question: from Ghana how does one overcome ma.st.ur.ba.tion?


1. Rev. Ray Okocha Ha-ma ha- firstly it’s a thing of the mind, you’ve allowed the chance that you have to become a habit to you I am sure and a problem to you; am its first stop It! and you have the power to do that as a child of God, if you don’t want something you can stop it! So don’t think about it! Don’t go in that direction and stop it! And you obviously have a problem with it?  That’s why you are in need of distribution a and the bibles says: (KJV) Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure ____and the ability of Christ in is you can if you don’t want it you can stop it.

2. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: it’s really that simple, the question is how does someone overcome ma.st.ur.ba.tion?

3. The reason your thinking about it the reason is it’s become a habit for you,
4. it’s the way you stop any habit,

5. see ma.st.ur.ba.tion it not em more of habit than any other habit ok SO

6. Once you make up your mind you “don’t”!! You want to break a particular habit, you do it, you stop you just it-stop it!!!

7. By getting em your mind to think of something else in fact the way the way destroy a habit is replace that habit with another habit,


8. That is the habit of not doing it see!!
9. But there is something I would like to- I would like to- bring to your mind that may be of help to you because the reason,
10. em you want to stop this is!!!
11. Is because of what you think it is!!
12. If you were in the habit of em playing football you probably would not ask us!!
13. How can I stop playing football?
14. Because you think there is something wrong with this!!!
15. Alright so that is where your problem is coming from.

16. But no matter how wrong it is!!! in your mind!!!
17. Get this straight in its self!

18. It is not a sin against God.

19. Now I say that for a reason!
20. There is many Christians think that is a sin against God em?
21. and Satan use it in oppressing them
22. oppressing their minds and making them feel ineffective

23. and inefficient in the things of God

24. But once you get to understand!!

25. It’s got nothing to do with God

26. It all about you and your own body
27. Then Satan loses his power to use it!!
28. To accuse you!!!
29. Alright!!
30. So if you don’t like it stop!!!

31. But Gods got nothing to do with it!!!

32. Its your own body

33. ma.st.ur.ba.tion is about you and your body

34. and Em and

35. God is not offended by it.

36. He is only offended by any habit that takes hold of your mind?
37. And if this takes a hold of your mind and dominates you?
38. God is offended by the fact that you let yourself become enslaved by any habit by what so every?
39. So let’s first of all take the power away from Satan to accuse you?

40. When it’s got nothing to do with God

41. in the whole bible
42. It doesn’t say anything about ma.st.ur.ba.tion?
43. Well Now somebody may say –
44. What about Lasciviousness
45. What about Uncleanness
46. That’s not the meaning of ma.st.ur.ba.tion
47. But you can have Lasciviousness and Uncleanness in ma.st.ur.ba.tion and as well in many other things that people do?
48. You see
49. So there not isolated to ma.st.ur.ba.tion its self
50. Uncleanness can be something about your mind ok
51. Thoughts that you bring in your mind 
52. Uncleanness can be having ah, ah this kind of s,e,x,u,a,l relations with an animal?
53. That is Uncleanness
54. In fact that is more of what the bible calls Uncleanness than anything else!!
55. And then am ah en ah!!
56. Homosexuality is Uncleanness that’s what God means by Uncleanness
57. These are all the things it talks about?
58. So just be clear that Satan should have no power of dominion over you as far as this is concerned!
59. It can be a dirty habit
60. It can be a habit you don’t like?

61. Or its got nothing to do with God

62. God is not thinking about it!

63. So you want to stop it
64. Stop it like any other thing
65. And it’s always easier to be able to stop things like this when you know!!!!!
66. God will have no problem with it!! 
67. As long as you are!!!
68. Oppressed by Satan the same devil will push you to do something
69. And make you believe God is against it, so he can you use it to condemn you 
70. But once you know!!

71. Gods got nothing to do with it

72. And Satan does not have the power to accuse you with it
73. You will find you will not even do it anymore?
74. See you, you, you just you just don’t just don’t do it
75. If you don’t like it
76. It’s,- it’s  just over
77. And you win?


Alright there is another one here
Siphilisiwe (Croydon United kingdom) question can apostles and prophets be ordained just as pastors are ordained by senior ministers

Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 3:17am On Feb 23, 2012
How Pastors Get Rich
exposes the secret methods some dishonest pastors use to take money from their church
Article
How Pastors Get Rich
Cultwatch
This article exposes the secret methods certain pastors use to get rich off God's people. Have you ever wondered how some pastors start a church and then become wealthy living in flash houses and driving luxury cars? Well this article exposes how they do it, extracting money from their congregations to fund their lifestyles. Here are the secrets they definitely do not want you to know.
Important Note: As you read please remember that very few pastors use the techniques you are about to discover. The great majority of Christian pastors do not earn much money even though they work hard at their jobs. Most Christian pastors would find these techniques repugnant. Please do not make the mistake of tarring the many good pastors with the brush reserved for the spiritually corrupt few
Table of Contents
Introduction
The Multilevel Marketing Pattern
Books
DVDs
Hyped Conferences
The Christian Speaking Circuit
Pastor Owned Businesses that Feed Off the Flock
The Honor the Pastor Scam
High Pressure Offerings
Cathedral Building Wars
Siphoning Cash into Property
Excessive Wages
Perks
Nepotism
Their Fabricated Tithing Doctrine
The Carrot and the Stick
Summary
Why you should read this Article
You will discover the secret techniques that certain pastors use to transfer money out of your pocket and into theirs.
You will understand the overall pattern behind their tricks.
You will learn enough to protect your friends and family.
You could gain thousands of dollars (or pounds or euros), literally. Reading this article can set you free. Free to keep more of the money that you have worked hard for. Money you can take and invest in genuine works of God, or in toys for your kids, or perhaps something shiny for your spouse.
Finally, reading this article can help you please God more, since you will no longer be investing in ungodly works.
Introduction
Like Judas reaching into the money bag, the sad reality is that a small minority of Christian pastors steal from God's people. As Christians we hate to face this truth, but I believe we must, because it is our duty to protect our less aware brothers and sisters - keeping them from these thieves.
Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. - 2 Corinthians 2:17a
Here exposed are the secret techniques used to fleece money from God's people. Don't be naive thinking that these schemes have spread throughout the world by accident. These techniques are talked about and shared behind closed doors by the clique of pastors who employ them.
It's big business. Some of them laugh at us like con-men laughing at their marks. Seriously, if you don't believe that there are men like that, then watch the 1972 documentary Marjoe. You'll soon realize that these wolfs in sheep's clothing have been a blight on Christianity throughout its history.
I will start by outlining the primary pattern that underpins these modern schemes. Then I will drill down, listing each technique one by one, exposing how they work. Finally, at the end, I will outline the biggest monetary scam of all.
First let's discover the primary pattern behind their methods,
The Multilevel Marketing Pattern
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!" - John 2:13-16
We've all been approached at some time by a friend caught up in the hope of multilevel marketing. The business they are pushing is simple, sell toothpaste or web sites or whatever, and then recruit people under you doing the same, taking a cut from their sales. Soon you will be so rich that you can buy a flash European car and give stacks of money to Godly causes.
That is the dream. The proof the dream works is embodied in the wealth of the dream's leaders. Do you see how rich our leaders are? They made all their money by following the dream, proving that you can too. Except, that it's a lie.
Coming up is the key to the pattern, are you ready? These leaders did not become wealthy by following the dream, instead they became wealthy by building up a group of people who believe passionately in the dream, and then selling dream-promoting wares to this captive audience.
I will say it again, because you need to understand this pattern. They did not become rich by selling toothpaste; they became rich by hyping dream-promoting books, tapes, DVDs, and conferences to their own private market of dream believers.
This same pattern is practiced by some Christian leaders and their churches. The dream is the prosperity gospel. Their captive market is their congregation. The products are, well you guessed it: books, tapes, DVDs, and conferences, and t-shirts, and most ominously spiritual rewards and the prevention of spiritual punishments.
These leaders use their faked "success" to promote a distorted gospel which basically says: "tow the line obeying the leaders buying whatever we tell you to buy, and donate money whenever we tell you to donate, and then God will pour riches into your life." They tell us that they became successful by following this dream, but in reality they became rich by sucking money out of those caught up in the buzzing environment where this distorted gospel seems real.
Let's drill in and discuss some of the products and techniques they use to line their pockets with money that ought to have stayed with God's people or gone to legitimate good works. You are about to discover how these spiritual vampires feed,
Tip: A clue that you are caught up in one of these churches is if you hear things like, "This is your spiritual home, you can't go to another church. You must be loyal." They are very jealous about protecting their market, and do not want to lose one of their paying customers to another church. Some even try to prevent their patrons leaving by making them sign contracts or "covenants", like a mobile phone company locking you into a two year term. But the Bible does not teach that Christians are bound to their local church organization, this idea is foreign to Scripture.
Books
The first product is the leader's book (often ghostwritten and fraudulently claimed to be authored by the leader). Let's be honest, many of these books are below par. Like bad business books they have one good idea, if that, and then are padded with motivational sayings and anecdotal stories of how the leader obeyed the dream and so God hosed him down with wealth. The theological content is basically non-existent. These books would tank on Amazon or in a real bookstore, but hyped to their captive market they sell like hot cakes.
Your Counter Strategy: Buy the book if it's got good reviews or if your friends have read it and liked it. In other words treat it like you would any other book. Avoid buying it if the pastor or speaker has hyped it during his talk and especially if there is a lot of peer pressure from the group to buy. Be aware that conferences and seminars are designed to emotionally hype these products. If you've ever been to a high pressure time-share sales session, then you will know what it's like. If you're feeling the hype, then cool off for a few days, buying the book later if you still want to.
DVDs
Next comes the ever popular DVD. Most of which are videos of the leader preaching in his church on a certain topic. Let me ask you a question, is it ethical for a leader who has been paid by his church to prepare and deliver a sermon, to then take that performance and sell it back to his own church members for a healthy profit? I'm not talking here about paying for reproduction costs or the money going into church funds. I'm talking about DVDs being sold at the same cost as a movie DVD and the profit going into the leader's own pocket.
And like the books most of these DVD's are awful, not worth the money paid. Minimal content with gallons of fluff. Some are so bad that my friends and I have been in hysterics, like the preacher whose proofs for his latest invented doctrine is to slap the bible he's carrying and say, "It's bible, it's bible!"
But, these DVDs are hyped and hyped, and the captive audience buy stacks of them. In the worst money hungry churches you're expected to buy them, and it is noticed if you don't.
Your Counter Strategy: The same as for a hyped book. Is it good? Do you still want the DVD after the hype has dissipated? Then buy it, otherwise save your money.
Hyped Conferences
The hype for these conferences start months before hand. Other church members look at you strangely if you are thinking about not going. What, you can't afford the huge entry fee? What's wrong with you, don't you love God? Don't you want to be blessed? Don't you want to be successful and wealthy? Don't you want to be part of us? Because you won't be, unless you go to THE CONFERENCE!
Each speaker is completely amazing. The next best thing to the second coming.
He's built a church up from nothing to one with thousands of people. She's the most Godly woman in the universe who is the best wife ever with the best kids and the best lifestyle, and she's the pastor's wife too. He's from overseas. She's a corporate CEO. Wow. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be triple awesome! It's going to be mega massive triply awesomely awesome!
The spiritual reward for going is implied to be life changing. The conference fee is nothing, compared to the fire-fighting-bomber worth of blessings and wealth God will dump on your head from upon high.
And Jesus had conferences too, don't forget, like the Sermon on the Mount, where He charged, oh, he didn't charge anything for that spiritual teaching. In fact it was free wasn't it? Hmmm. Well, often the first-movers can't figure out how to monetize their success, we can't blame Jesus for that, can we? Gosh, if only He had some books to sell at the back,
Understand, I'm not against conferences. I'm against overly expensive hyped conferences that deliver hardly any lasting value to their attendees; Conferences that are linked to your standing in your church, and supposedly what God thinks of your commitment to Him.
And why are they so expensive? Where does all that money go? Well, in the next section you're going to find out,
Your Counter Strategy: Hire a hotel room, and sit there reading your Bible with a few Christian friends - trust me, spiritually you'll get more out of it and it'll cost less. Realize that you don't need the sugar high of a conference to get closer to God. Deprogram yourself from the idea that conferences are like a spiritual hot-point you just have to be at. See the hype for what it is. Be led by the Spirit to conferences, not pulled by the fear of losing your church friends and God's blessing.
The Christian Speaking Circuit
If you have a big market (congregation) and are willing to let others come and sell there, then your fellow pastors will invite you to come and sell into their markets (congregations) too. The bigger your own market, the larger the markets that will open their doors to you - as long as you are willing to reciprocate. Quid pro quo.
There is a Christian speaking circuit, just like there is a motivational speaking circuit. The circuit has no formal structure like say a football league, but rather is like an exclusive network or an old boys club.
Young speaking-cubs sweat blood to be allowed into the circuit. These wannabes practice hard and desperately seek in-circuit patrons because the financial rewards are significant. Revenue flows in four ways: from sales of products, from special "love offerings" taken for the speaker, from various perks, and from the formal payments (honorariums) for speaking.
Not all visiting church speakers are on the circuit, the difference is in the amount of money their visit extracts. There is nothing wrong with a speaker's flights and accommodation being paid for, along with the speaker receiving a fair payment for his time. But if the amounts are excessive and the perks extravagant, then that is an unacceptable waste of the Lord's money.
Some speaker's egos are so ripe that they demand business or first class flights, expensive chauffeured cars, five star hotel accommodation, gourmet dining, and the right to bring a small entourage along with them (at the church's expense). Their fees can be enough to buy a family car, and then they have the audacity to expect a special "love offering" to be made for them. The sales of their books and DVD's are carefully planned, and the hosting pastors are expected to hype their products.
Of course the hosting pastor will then get the same treatment later at the visiting speaker's church, including his own big fat love offering. If the visiting speaker does not have a church, then the hosting pastor will expect a cut from the speaker's product sales.
These Sunday service speaking engagements are the bread and butter, to the glamour and super-liquidity of the hyped conferences. Only the true speaking-circuit superstars get to keynote at these hype-fests. The speakers at these conferences are like sharks in a feeding frenzy, seeking to boost their profit margins with the over inflated prices of their products. Their speaking fees and perks are why these conferences cost so much, and can sometimes even run at a, ahem, cough, "loss".
It is unbelievable what some of these speakers expect from the Body of Christ. I would not like to be in their shoes when they finally meet our Lord, or for that matter anywhere within the blast radius.
Your Counter Strategy: Don't go to these conferences. Demand transparent accounting to the whole church of all costs of visiting speakers, and for that matter transparency about any income your pastor is earning while speaking at other churches and conferences. No pastor earning reasonable fees from away engagements would have a problem with this, assuming of course he is on leave when he speaks and not double dipping.
Pastor Owned Businesses that Feed Off the Flock
Another way bad pastors extract money from their captive market is to set up a business, and then get their congregation to patronize their business.
Businesses like: bookshops, counseling, gyms, production firms, computer consulting, cinemas, business coaching services, supermarkets, building firms, music festivals, music studios, real-estate firms, and many more. The bookshop is the most common, often located inside the church itself.
Members in the church who show loyalty to their pastor's businesses are rewarded, often with increased standing in the church. Members who refuse to use the pastor's businesses are frowned upon.
Your Counter Strategy: Don't frequent these types of businesses. Ask questions about who owns them, and where their customers are from, if eighty percent or more of the customers come from the pastor's church then that indicates where its marketing is targeted.
The Honor The Pastor Scam
Money focused churches tend to be run on cultic patterns. One of these cultic patterns is the division of the church into exclusive rings: the all-powerful pastor perched at the center, the inner-ring of sycophants around him consisting of the pastor's lieutenants and the church's privileged class (the rich, the famous and the very pretty), and the outer-ring of the ordinary folk who would love to be in the inner-ring, but are not.
The power of those in the inner-ring is determined by the amount of favor the pastor bestows upon them.
To get more favor the inner-ring will employ many favor-currying measures, one of which is a scam called "Honoring the Pastor". It works this way, the inner-ring will figure out what the pastor would like, say for his birthday. Then the inner-ringers will squeeze the outer-ringers for the money to buy this item.
Using this method pastors have been "given": diamond rings for their wives, cash gifts, jet skis, luxury cruises, motorbikes, cars, holidays, boats, and a myriad of other expensive luxury items.
Are the pastors complicit in this game? Of course they are. They couldn't demand the gift openly themselves, but seek plausible deniability by having their inner-ring lieutenants do the work. Of course they could refuse the gift when it is presented, and make it clear that they don't want the Lord's money spent on such things again, but they never do. These pastors exchange their favor, for cash from their congregation.
Your Counter Strategy: Unless it's something reasonable like a bunch of flowers for the pastor's wife, don't give to this sort of fund raising.
High Pressure Offerings
Another way the pastor uses his inner-ring to extract cash, is via high pressure offering talks in the church services.
One of the church's inner-ring will take the Sunday offering, which in these money focused churches can turn into a mini-sermon. These inner-ring members are competing against each other's past high scores. At stake is their standing with the pastor and hence their standing in the church. If they rake in the cash then their position is secure, but if they score low then no matter what excuses they have they know the pastor will blame them.
In the extreme money focused churches it is made known who gave the most and who gave the least, and in these churches the giving will not be in secret but people will be expected to come up the front so that everyone can see how much they give. Or people will be watched to see if they put anything in the offering container as it is passed down the aisles.
Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. - 2 Corinthians 9:7
Your Counter Strategy: If you feel you are being compelled to give then don't give a penny, no matter how much pressure is applied.
Cathedral Building Wars
Like the cathedral building wars in the middle ages where cities and countries vied against each other to build the most impressive cathedral. The pastors of these money focused churches fight to own the most impressive church to top their rival pastors - their egos demand that they are the king of the heap.
The most impressive churches require the most magnificent buildings, the most professional entertainment in their services, the best church programs, and the best conferences, the best websites, the best radio and TV programs, and the most members. All this costs a lot of money.
And just like in the days of old these self anointed church kings seek to tax their subjects to fund their private war.
Understand that these cultic churches ultimately exist to serve their pastor's insecure egos, and their congregation suffer under their madness. This type of church culture breeds a harsh environment where people are discarded as soon as they are no longer useful. This is a dysfunctional ethos entirely alien to that of Jesus's teachings.
Your Counter Strategy: Don't help fund these monuments to the pastor's pride and prestige, these pet projects, these grandiose visions. Realize that these churches are not focused on Jesus, but are centered around the narcissistic pastor and what he desires most. Don't be part of this game. Surely we are accountable to God to how we spend our money. Surely then it is our duty as Christians to give that money to true Godly works that bear real fruit for the Kingdom.
Siphoning Cash into Property
Is it ethical for the pastor (or his company or trust) to own property that the church is paying for? Of course not.
Another variation on this scam is the church trust being controlled by the pastor and his family, so they control both the church's cash and property.
Some of these pastors are very clever in how they hide the money trail. But ultimately if church money is paying for an asset the pastor owns, except via his wages of course, then it is almost certainly wrong. Imagine the furor if a politician was caught siphoning off government money into property or assets owned by himself.
Your Counter Strategy: Check who owns your church's property. If it is a trust or company then find out who owns and controls that entity. Then look at what your pastor owns directly or indirectly, and who is paying for those assets. Stop giving to that church until any unethical dealings like these are stopped and the money repaid.
Excessive Wages
The Bible teaches that the spiritual worker deserves to be paid:
The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, "Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain," and "The worker deserves his wages." - 1 Timothy 5:17-18
I believe it is reasonable to assume that Paul the Apostle meant only fair wages, not excessive wages, and that Paul would have agreed with what Peter the Apostle wrote:
To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder, a witness of Christ's sufferings and one who also will share in the glory to be revealed: Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseers-not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve; not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. - 1 Peter 5:1-3
Obviously one of the ways greedy pastors can extract money from God's people is via excessive wages. The amount of which they will often decide themselves, or have conferred on them by their sycophants (via the church board, or the church wages review committee, for example).
No honest pastor would have a problem with his congregation knowing how much their church pays him, or at least what range his wage fell in, like say "between $50,000 and $60,000". This is normal. Openness regarding the pastor's stipend has been a practice of the Christian church for hundreds of years, and continues today. Only those pastors who have an excessive wage would be reluctant to let the amount become public knowledge.
If your pastor refuses to be open about his wage then be very suspicious. It is likely he knows that the amount would be considered excessive. If it is excessive, then watch him dodge the issue like a sweaty politician.
Be even more suspicious whenever you hear a pastor's wage being justified by comparing him to a CEO. If you hear this CEO nonsense then you can instantly know two things: first, the pastor's wage is massive; second, you are being scammed. A pastor is not a CEO no matter how big his church empire is; a CEO runs a for monetary-profit organization, a pastors serves the people of God - they are not the same thing.
By the way, if the pastor claims to be a CEO, then you must be a shareholder. Shareholders have full rights to the accounts, including how much their "CEO" is earning.
Your Counter Strategy: Find out how much your pastor is paid. If he will not reveal the information then stop giving to that church until it is revealed. Especially stop if you hear any of this "CEO" rubbish.
Perks
Expensive leased cars, holidays, clothing allowances, spending money, restaurant meals, hotels, flights, and expense accounts, are some of the perks demanded by these luxury smitten pastors.
Some say that if they are preaching the "prosperity gospel", then they have to appear prosperous to "walk their talk". But of course that is a deception. They are using God's money to misrepresent how wealthy they are, to help prove their false teaching works. Despicable.
Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. - 2 Corinthians 4:2
What is worse, many of these churches make their members complicit in this deception. Members are instructed to wear expensive clothes and groom themselves in the manner expected of the rich. They are encouraged to buy (or lease) the most impressive car they can afford. Members are required to appear happy and successful. The excuse given is that the appearance of success breeds success, but this is nonsense, more likely it breeds significant debt. The real reason the leaders want their church members to appear successful is to trick others into thinking that the prosperity dream that they preach really works.

Your Counter Strategy: Stop giving money in protest, until the excessive perks are removed. Ignore any pressure to live beyond your means.

But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. - 1 Timothy 6:3-10
Nepotism
A church isn't a family business you know; it is a family, but it's not a business.
Are the pastor's relatives high up in the church? Are they the ones with the most powerful positions? Then that is nepotism. A good church will choose the very best people for the job, while a bad church will reward those closest to the pastor with the lucrative positions of power.
If you see nepotism, then that is a sign that something is very wrong.
Your Counter Strategy: Yup, you guessed it - stop giving to that church until the pastor's little family fiefdom is disassembled.
Their Fabricated Tithing Doctrine
This is the big daddy. This is their sacred cow. This is the beating heart of their evil empire. The crown jewel. The Death Star. The one ring to bill them all. The pot of gold. Their matrix (into which they want to plug you). Their Wizard of Oz. Their magic spell. Their special power. Their secret recipe with the eleven herbs and spices. Their Golden Goose. The very air upon which they breathe!
Question this doctrine and watch these money hungry pastors bare their fangs. This is a teaching that they will bear no compromise on. Tithing, or at least their own version of tithing, is their one true love.
Here are some bullet points about tithing that these money hungry pastors don't want you to know:
The New Testament Church did not tithe.
The New Testament does not teach tithing for Christians.
Their favorite Malachi verses cannot be used for Christians since Christians are not under the law of Moses.
Abraham's one off tithe of his war booty did not set up a precedent for Christians to regularly tithe their income.
The version of tithing they teach cannot be found in Scripture (see below).
The "Storehouse" in Malachi cannot be equated to your local church organization.
There are plenty of rich (money wise) Christians who do not tithe. This would be impossible if their version of tithing was true.
The New Testament teaching is that you decide how much to give, and there are no rules about where it goes. You cannot be compelled to give.
It may come as a surprise to learn that their tithing doctrine is a combination of twisted scriptures and wishful thinking, as opposed to solid Biblical exegesis reflecting a central thrust of New Testament teaching. Here is their tithing doctrine stated in a nutshell:
"Christians must give ten percent of their gross income only to their church organization. If they do, then God will bless them for any offerings they make to the church organization beyond this ten percent. But if they do not give ten percent gross, then they are stealing from God and God will curse them."
There are variations of this teaching, and sometimes it is called a "principle", but the above definition contains the core essence of this doctrine.
It is vital to grasp that tithing is not for Christians. Tithing was part of the old law (of Moses) which was fulfilled (completed) by Jesus. You know that Christians are not under the law of Moses don't you?
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. - Romans 7:6
know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified. - Galatians 2:16
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." - Galatians 3:10
New wine should not be put into old wine skins, nor should new unshrunk cloth be used to patch an old garment; if you think you need to obey the law of tithing then you need to obey the whole law (or you will be cursed, Galatians 3:10).
What is more, this tithing doctrine they teach isn't found in either the New or Old Testament. Tithing in the old testament does not match what these pastors preach - this unique tithe teaching is of their own invention.
This is such an important subject that Cultwatch has a special website TithingDebate.com dedicated to setting Christians free from this fake doctrine. There are free books to download and articles to read. Make sure you read our article "Should you give? New Testament Giving Supported!", because Cultwatch is not anti-giving. If you think tithing is for Christians today, then you need to read TithingDebate.com
Tip: If you are struggling to feed your family or buy them clothes, then understand that you do not need to give to the church. You can still do so if you choose, but you should not feel under compulsion since your family is more important. Also understand that if you are poor then that does not mean God is cursing you, or that you have done something wrong; this is an erroneous teaching these greedy men promote to guilt you into giving. Remember, your duty is to your family first. If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. - 1 Timothy 5:8
Tip: Churches that push this erroneous tithing doctrine will often try to enforce tithing via written agreements (called covenants), and also by monitoring what people give (so they can compel them to give more if they are not meeting the ten percent target). First, grasp that these "covenants" are illegitimate and not worth the paper they are printed on, because they contain false doctrine (like tithing) and set up the pastors as a false authority over you. God would not be party to a covenant that contains falsehoods, therefore God was not party to the covenant you were pressured to sign, therefore you are free from this burden. It is as if you never signed it. Second, recording what you give and using that information to pressure you to give more is wrong, the Bible implies that our giving is best done in secret so that only we and God know what we gave. Don't go to a church where they monitor what you give. (note: some churches voluntarily let you record what you have given via a numbered envelope system for tax purposes. Done correctly, no one in the church will know what you gave. There is nothing wrong with this kind of recording.)
Your Counter Strategy: Stop giving to that church until they change their ways. That doesn't mean to stop giving to Godly works, we would encourage you to give as the Holy Spirit prompts you and as you decide. But it is valid to protest false doctrine by refusing to fund the system that promotes that false doctrine.
The Carrot and the Stick
These pastors are not only money hungry, but often power hungry too. They want to be both pastor and master. They commit the sin of the Pharisees and appoint themselves as middle men between God and you. They seek to replace the Holy Spirit in your life. They "lord it over" their flocks. Read Cultwatch's articles on the "Super Apostles" here if you want to find out more.
Using the connection they claim to have with God they threaten you with the stick of spiritual curses if you disobey them, and dangle the carrot of spiritual blessings if you comply. They seek to dominate your life; often implying that they have say in where you work, where you fellowship, who you marry, and of course, when, where, and how much you should give.


This is a false spiritual authority not supported by Scripture. In fact I believe it to be quite devilish (the desire to control and dominate others).
In these pastor's prosperity teaching, obeying the pastor and giving money are the two pillars necessary for a successful Christian life. If you sit back and think about it, you will quickly see what a con it is.
These men want to be at the head of everything, they want to dominate you, they want to be seen as the big man, and some even secretly desire adoration (almost worship). This is the opposite of true Christian leadership:
Also a dispute arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greatest. Jesus said to them, "The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves. - Luke 22:24-27
I call God as my witness that it was in order to spare you that I did not return to Corinth. Not that we lord it over your faith, but we work with you for your joy, because it is by faith you stand firm. - 2 Corinthians 1:23-24
Jesus called them together and said, "You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. - Mark 10:42-44
Threatening people with curses if they do not obey or donate is spiritual extortion. It is contrary to the nature of grace and the person of Jesus.
Your Counter Strategy: Don't be afraid of these men. Ignore their bluster. Grow a backbone and stand up to them. And if you give, then give to honor God and not out of fear of punishment or greed for financial gain. Memorize this verse: Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. - 2 Corinthians 9:7
Summary
I believe many church goers would be shocked if they could comprehend the real attitude their pastor has towards them. From my experience with both the cults and these money focused churches, it is my impression that instead of being looked upon with love, these pastors see their congregation as farm animals to be milked.
It is my prayer that this article will set you free from this kind of spiritual bondage. I hope now you will be able to spot this counterfeit Christian life and be able to transition into a closer walk with Jesus; a walk built on love, trust and grace, not fear.

To summarize what we have learnt about the methods money hungry pastors use to feed off their flock: We discovered the multilevel marketing pattern that these often ex-salesmen (not theologians) model their churches. We examined some of the products they sell into their captive market like books and DVDs. We unhyped the hyped conferences, and exposed the christian speaking circuit. Next we talked about how spiritually dishonest pastors set up their own businesses that their followers are expected to patronize. After that came the scam of "honoring the pastor" with gifts of luxury items. We delved into the high pressure offering mini-sermons that are designed to guilt people into giving. We examined how most of the money gained is used to build the pastor's modern day cathedrals, projects that their fragile egos demand. We exposed the scam of siphoning the church's cash into properties and assets owned by the pastor. We covered the obvious points of excessive wages and extravagant perks, and that was followed by the not so obvious problem of nepotism. Their big daddy came second to last - their fabricated tithing doctrine was exposed for what it is, a fraud. Finally we discussed the spiritual carrot and stick of the false authority that the pastors claim.
There are other methods these guys use to extract money from churches. Revisit this article regularly to discover these methods in future updates.
Realize that a number of churches follow the patterns that this article exposes. However there are many good churches who do not practice these methods. If you have been hurt by these practices then feel free to give up on these twisted money-focused environments, but please do not give up on Jesus.
Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God. - 2 Corinthians 2:17. Therefore, can we conclude that men who peddle the word of God for profit are not sent from God?
Feel free to think this one through for yourself.

Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by diluminati(f): 6:19am On Feb 23, 2012
pastor chris is just exciting his followers, making them to feel so excited. there is no piousness in him and in his teachings. so because he carries a serious face when he spills out his ego tripping messages, we should now believe him ehn? and for all those staged managed miracles, unverifiable miracles and healing that takes care of themselves hmmm is that why you will get excited by this guy's apostasy?. its a pity! sad
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 6:34am On Feb 23, 2012
not once do anyone of you mindless goons from Christ embassy ever correct me with the bible you only say crazy or i am Satan for telling you the truth

come on tell me in the bible were I am not to tell you the truth and not speak against false teachers I will tell you can't find one passage if you do it will be psalms 105: touch not the anointed one it is talking about Israel there not you blind guides?
You are paid with the church to do this I have tracked you down some of you people who defend this demigod in a white suite are full time pastors your only protecting your benefits



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Quote from: newmi on February 21, 2012, 08:53 PM
@Mabell
so tell me what do you think about this anti-Chris(t) lolll?

Idlemindedness : 
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« #21 on: February 21, 2012, 09:46 PM »
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Quote from: crossman9 on February 21, 2012, 09:36 PM
Believe me beating up on you goons is a life challenge I spend all my days reading up on this false ministry I have a ministry myself this is why I become so good in understand to their false teaching like this man I was part of the church for a long time?
They make peoples life’s a misery I will do better
Join the fight for the gospel truth

Maybe that's the reason you are the way you are
You have carved out your own fantacies and live in them
Come out to reality



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Quote from: FXKing2012 on February 21, 2012, 04:15 PM
@Anti_PastChris, you are definitely anti-pastor Chris and u are an anti-Christ as well cos I've been seeing your dubious posts. You are an agent of the devil and yet again u wallow in ignorance going by your posts.
You are just pathetic and in need of help!
   
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« #13 on: February 21, 2012, 07:46 PM »
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Gosh na wah @op if u spend all this valuable time you used in chasing Pas Chris in pursuit of knowledge you might just stumble on another curative therapy for Cancer.smh

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« #14 on: February 21, 2012, 08:17 PM »
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Quote from: maddock on February 21, 2012, 07:46 PM
Gosh na wah @op if u spend all this valuable time you used in chasing Pas Chris in pursuit of knowledge you might just stumble on another curative therapy for Cancer.smh

Abi oooo! Some people spend their entire lives chasing the downfall of others while those they are chasing keep waxing stronger and they (the chaser) remain stagnant in life.
@Anti-PastChris and @crossman had better go get a life and make something positive out of their lives rather than chasing the downfall of another man.
Sometimes I even wonder maybe it's a mental case.

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« #15 on: February 21, 2012, 08:21 PM »
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@ maddock
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Gosh na wah @op if u spend all this valuable time you used in chasing Pas Chris in pursuit of knowledge you might just stumble on another curative therapy for Cancer.smh
                   cannot stop laughing

@ poster
you are actually a pro-pstchris cos if you could be so engulfed in all his teachings and materials to this extent, dude you are actually propagating his messages and teachings. are you sure you know what you doing? cos the man you are obviously behind trying to pursue is spreading and progressing at the speed of God.

if you think you can do better than he's presently doing then start your own ministry and do it your right way!

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« #16 on: February 21, 2012, 08:53 PM »
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so tell me what do you think about this anti-Chris(t) lolll?

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« #17 on: February 21, 2012, 09:18 PM »
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Quote from: newmi on February 21, 2012, 08:53 PM
@Mabell
so tell me what do you think about this anti-Chris(t) lolll?

Don't attack Anti-PastChris. Take him on all his write-ups and repudiate them one after another.

His debate is intelligent and precise. He is not confused in any form but quoting Pastor Chris and using Bible to highlight falsehoods in his teachings.

Fantastic and resourceful research I may say, if you think otherwise take him point by point while not attacking his personality. Thank you

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« #18 on: February 21, 2012, 09:31 PM »
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@ Anti - pastchris
Thanks for publishing the message
It's good for people to know that in Christ imcompetence does not exist but all round success and great ability ,that the wealth of the ungodly is stored up for the righteous, and also that we are the best of the best

Anyhow the gospel is being preached
Gracias!
 




FXKing2012 (m)
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« #10 on: February 21, 2012, 04:15 PM »
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@Anti_PastChris, you are definitely anti-pastor Chris and u are an anti-Christ as well cos I've been seeing your dubious posts. You are an agent of the devil and yet again u wallow in ignorance going by your posts.
You are just pathetic and in need of help!

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I dey gidigba o jare! This psycho is at it again o! Terrible

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Here we go again, all these anti-Christs and atheists being used by the devil to bring down powerful men of God. You all will fail and the devil who is instructing you to do these things will lead you all to hell with him.

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Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 6:48am On Feb 23, 2012
are you a christian diluminati
i know you don't like him
but God is real i am living proof and he dose heal?

but pastor chris is fake in most of his healings and teaching ??

Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by AntiPastChris(m): 6:51am On Feb 23, 2012
Bomb targeted at Christ Embassy Church by Islamic sect Boko Haram exploded at Suleija Niger state

Another Bomb planted by unknown person believed to be members of the Islamic sect “Boko Haram” exploded today at Suleija Niger state. The bomb targeting the Christ Embassy church in Suleija exploded injuring a passer-by, it was kept in a Polythene bag and was said to have exploded at the entrance of the Church.
This is coming after the arrest of members of the December bomber  believed to be main players in the Islamic vex against the government of Nigeria

Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by Azibalua(f): 8:21am On Feb 23, 2012
Proverbs 22:15
15 Foolishness [is] bound in the heart of a child; [but] the rod of correction shall drive it far from him
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by diluminati(f): 8:25am On Feb 23, 2012
Azibalua:

Proverbs 22:15
15 Foolishness [is] bound in the heart of a child; [but] the rod of correction shall drive it far from him


oh make we dey fear you now? abeg go sleep jare!
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by crossman9(m): 8:32am On Feb 23, 2012
So we must weigh and measure the truth according to the scripture? 
(Oscar wild) Phrases and philosophies for the use of the young: (Chameleon, December, 1894) Religions die when they are proved to be true. “Science is the record of dead religions “
As I like to put it science is the study of dead religions
But why then does man think he is a spirit being then strange hey?
I would be happy to debunk the “theory of evolution”
Or as I like to call it the “Theory of evil Allusions” 

When the very books of the bible teach a different picture to the one these teachers teach or preacher or pastors like (Pastor Chris Oyakhilome)
The Answer is this man loves his own knowledge not the knowledge of the “Eternal and living God”
“Yahweh” he sent us his prophets teachers and men of great wisdom but man in his own arrogance loves his own understanding?
So now is the time for truth to be restored to the people of God and you wonder which truth?
The bible is this truth, because like in most “cults” just like in (Christ Embassy) they replace the word of God with their own books explaining away simple truths, putting faith in man not the creator’s ultimate book his holy word the “holy bible”
Re: Things Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Has Stated As Errors & False Teaching From Bible? by Joagbaje(m): 8:34am On Feb 23, 2012
Stop spuing your ignorance . cool

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