God2man: Why is there so much arguments about tithe on nairaland? Why? If you search very well, you will discover that this topic is not new, we have argued extensively on this very Topic of helping your brother with your tithe.
Silence is a sign of wisdom, when you begin to show that you know everything, then there is a problem, it shows that you are not ready to listen to other christians explanation on the issue of tight, this is a manifestation of ignorance, a wise man will think deeply on various opposing views.
Anti-tithers should think deeply on the statement made by our LORD JESUS CHRIST on tithe, Mattew 23:23, especially the part of not leaving the other undone.
Now, how do we know the person that is saying the right thing? Do we pray to God for inspiration? What do we do on the issue of tithe? God will help us on nairaland on tithe wahala. God bless you all. God2man.

ljila:
Hiya,yes i am aware as i read Hebrews 7:4-9 yesterday, so you are VERY WRONG IN SAYING I DON'T KNOW. Don't make conclusions on what you're not certain of ok, admit your limitations.
The scripture in Hebrews doesn't change the fact that Jesus approved tithing by saying "this you ought to have done but not neglecting the others." Whether Abraham's tithes was converted to the Levitical tithes is not the matter, it still stands that tithing preceded the law. There are things that were initiated by men that God adopted and approved. E.g 1 -Tithing was initiated by Abraham as far as biblical records are concerned.
E.g 2 -Anointing with oil: Jacob initiated anointing with oil in the bible in Gen 28:18, and God showed His approval of that in 1 Samuel 16:1,12-13 by commanding Samuel to anoint David as king.
Each according to the measure of faith God has given him. The OP said she'll feel guilty if she doesn't pay the tithe and you're encouraging her to make that decision. Don't make her stumble on what she thinks is right and the choice is still hers by the way. It seems you're trying to enforce your opinions on everyone. Not everyone's gonna agree with you, that's life. If you read my entire post, i gave my view and what i think i'll do in such a scenario, and left the matter there. You may wanna adopt that approach sometimes. God bless you too Goshen360

goshen360:

God2man,

For a while you and I have not engage much in talk on the religious session. I do not claim to lay hold of total knowledge of the word but as much as I have come to know is the fact I spend much time with the word of God asking God to show me more by His Spirit. You see my brother, many things are going on right now and it was prophesied by Christ. What do I mean? Christ prophesied false prophets. And what is it under heaven you think false prophets will offer? False teachings and falsehood of course!

Now le'me come to your own words that "when you begin to show that you know everything, then there is a problem, it shows that you are not ready to listen to other christians explanation on the issue of tithe, this is a manifestation of ignorance, a wise man will think deeply on various opposing views".

I will like you learn the truth yourself here in regards to Matthew 23:23 and I will show you the truth therein, it's left for you to accept it or not.

First, Jesus was speaking to the scribes and Pharisees in Matt 23:23 and before that verse in the same chapter, Jesus already told the multitudes and his disciples (which is being interpreted as we today as disciples of Christ) that they should NOT DO ACCORDING TO THE WORKS (tithe is a works according to the law) of the scribes and Pharisees. Hence, Jesus could not have justify tithing using the hypocrisy of the scribes and Pharisees. Read Matthew 23, the whole chapter and interpreted it in context please. There are couple of woes to the scribes and Pharisees in that chapter, why is it tithe alone that is lifted. Let's divide the word of God right please.

Again, remember Jesus CANNOT DESTROY THE LAW IN HIS DAYS BECAUSE HE WAS BORN INTO THE LAW AND HE HAD TO LIVE THE LAW. At the time Jesus was speaking in Matthew 23:23, the law was still in effect, so that is why the scribes and Pharisees were still practicing the law. Have you ever asked why Christ did not pay tithe or taught tithe or received tithe? That I will offer to you as an assignment if you don't mind.

I am not trying to impose knowledge as this forum is for us to also learn. Am open for you discussion sir.

God2man: Why is there so much arguments about tithe on nairaland? Why? If you search very well, you will discover that this topic is not new, we have argued extensively on this very Topic of helping your brother with your tithe.
Silence is a sign of wisdom, when you begin to show that you know everything, then there is a problem, it shows that you are not ready to listen to other christians explanation on the issue of tight, this is a manifestation of ignorance, a wise man will think deeply on various opposing views.
Anti-tithers should think deeply on the statement made by our LORD JESUS CHRIST on tithe, Mattew 23:23, especially the part of not leaving the other undone.
Now, how do we know the person that is saying the right thing? Do we pray to God for inspiration? What do we do on the issue of tithe? God will help us on nairaland on tithe wahala. God bless you all. God2man.

God2man: Why is there so much arguments about tithe on nairaland? Why? If you search very well, you will discover that this topic is not new, we have argued extensively on this very Topic of helping your brother with your tithe.
Silence is a sign of wisdom, when you begin to show that you know everything, then there is a problem, it shows that you are not ready to listen to other christians explanation on the issue of tight, this is a manifestation of ignorance, a wise man will think deeply on various opposing views.
Anti-tithers should think deeply on the statement made by our LORD JESUS CHRIST on tithe, Mattew 23:23, especially the part of not leaving the other undone.
Now, how do we know the person that is saying the right thing? Do we pray to God for inspiration? What do we do on the issue of tithe? God will help us on nairaland on tithe wahala. God bless you all. God2man.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

dalaman: Interesting debate.

dalaman: Interesting debate.

goshen360: @ ndu chucks,

Enigma had given you much reply. Should you not be satisfied, let me know and we look at the views together. Thank you.

Enigma: Where in the Bible is it stated that God will open the floodgates of heaven and pour out a blessing if a person makes a donation of 10% or "tithe" to his place of worship?

Where o where?

Enigma: Where in the Bible is it stated that God will open the floodgates of heaven and pour out a blessing if a person makes a donation of 10% or "tithe" to his place of worship?

Where o where?

Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

Sijo01: Gudday folks.
Am nt a fan of religious section, i decided to come in here due to dis liru issue i hav. Wanna kno if wat am abut to do is ok.

My brother who has never asked me for financial assistance b4 is really in need of money &has asked me to help out. I in person, am nt always confortable wen sombdy ask me for somfin n am unable to giv.

D issue now is dat, am nt boyant @d moment but i hv my tithe which i kno wil be reasonabl enof to giv out because hv nt been to my church for some time now (went on a visit to another church, was on duty, went out of d state etc) so, i did nt pay my tithe neither did i spend it.

If i give out this money (my tithe) to my brother, wil i b on point?
Plz folks ur opinion is seeked here.
Thanks!

ndu_chucks:

Malachi 3:10

Now go back and answer the question I asked.

buzugee: listen here woman. first off do you know going to church is a sin ? so u berra give your money to your brother or else

buzugee: listen here woman. first off do you know going to church is a sin ? so u berra give your money to your brother or else

Enigma:


Wrong!!!!!

Malachi 3:10 required people to bring tithes of agricultural produce and the tenth livestock to Levitical priests.

It does not say that anyone who makes a donation of 10% or tithe will receive the blessing of open flood gates etc

Try again or try another one.

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

goshen360: @ ndu chucks,

Le'me use the word, "I guess" you are not a bible student. If you truly are, you will know by know in the context of Malachi, God wasn't talking to the Israelites, the "man" referred to in that verse is keyed into the context of who God was talking to in the context. Now Le'me show you, if you care:

Malachi 1:1 nkjv
The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

Malachi 2:1
"And now, O priests, this commandment is for you.

Chapter 2 of Malachi continued all the way to chapter 4, GOD STILL TALKING TO THE PRIEST. Brother, you can see it wasn't the members or Israelites that Malachi is addressed to. You can read to verify for yourself,okay.

Now le'me also show you that, EVERY BELIEVER IN JESUS NOW ARE THE PRIEST. THERE IS NO MORE PRIESTS LIKE IN THE DAYS OD THE TEMPLE THEN BECAUSE NOW WE OURSELVES ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD AND WE ARE THE PRIEST THAT REPRESENTS OURSELVES AND GOD.

But you [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. 1 Peter 2:9 nkjv

Again, who was Peter writing to in context: Let's see again:

1 Peter 1:1-2 nkjv
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace be multiplied.

That we are now the temple of God, to show you:

1 Cor 3:16 nkjv
Do you not know that you are the temple of God and [that] the Spirit of God dwells in you?

1 Cor 6:19 nkjv
Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit [who is] in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?

goshen360: ^^^
Yes is the answer in a simple honest term. However, not according to the law of tithing. This is what we are saying. Give whatever with free will, cheerfully, not grudging and as God blessed you. Tithe is works of the law that brings self righteousness and compulsion. Like Enigma said, no body is saying you wont be blessed when you give any amount aside of tithe. As you said, giving can be less or more than 10%. So will that be fair on your part to say, the percentage of tithe should be abolished? and giving should be done freely as you are blessed?

ndu_chucks:

It appears that common sense is being introduced into the discussion. You have indicated that you are required to make charitable contributions, and in fact that the contribution should be more than 10% of your income in your earlier wtite-ups. On the other hand, you are telling people who want to contribute 10% of theirs that they should not do so, because the said contribution is called tithe? Does this make common sense to you? This is at best a semantic disagreement and at worst senseless.

If people want to contribute 10% of their income as charitable donations to their places of worship on a monthly basis, then you sir, are completely wrong to tell them not to do so because the said contribution is called tithe. Telling them not to, is a contradiction to what you yourself have admitted to being, an expectation of Christians i.e. making charitable donations (even if its through your place of worship).

Telling people to stop making charitable donations to their places of worship on a monthly basis is outright wrong and senseless.

Now, on a separate note, each individual has a responsibility of making sure that they avoid being taken for a ride by unscrupulous "pastors or imams".

ndu_chucks:

It appears that common sense is being introduced into the discussion. You have indicated that you are required to make charitable contributions, and in fact that the contribution should be more than 10% of your income in your earlier wtite-ups. On the other hand, you are telling people who want to contribute 10% of theirs that they should not do so, because the said contribution is called tithe? Does this make common sense to you? This is at best a semantic disagreement and at worst senseless.

If people want to contribute 10% of their income as charitable donations to their place of worship on a monthly basis, then you sir, are completely wrong to tell them not to do so because the said contribution is called tithe. Telling them not to, is a contradiction to what you yourself have admitted to being, an expectation of Christians i.e. making charitable donations (even if its through your place of worship).

[s]Telling people to stop making charitable donations to their places of worship on a monthly basis is outright wrong and senseless. [/s]

Now, on a separate note, each individual has a responsibility of making sure that they avoid being taken for a ride by unscrupulous "pastors or imams".