Nihilist:


What is this?

Behave yourself na?

Lool, keep arguing with him, b4 u know it, u myt start wishing u put a gun to his head with the amount of nonsense he posts just to bring down Eden.

read what your coach has to say about the nonsense fabregas said


http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/24/antonio-conte-dismisses-cesc-fabregas-claim-that-eden-hazard-must-be-more-selfish-to-surpass-lionel-messi-6594436/

Nihilist:


I think you misunderstand this entire discussion doctor.

Let me remind you

I followed from the beginning.
You just can't multiply number of shots by a factor.
If he takes more shots his accuracy will drop and he won't be as prolific. He does not have the talent level to score Messi and CR7 levels of goals just like the rest of the human world.
He is not as tall, powerful, dominant in the air and does not shoot from both sides as well as a prime Ronaldo. He does not have the box awareness.
Change of mentality or team or increase in volume of shots won't push Hazard to Messi or CR7 levels.
He does not have it in him and you guys should stop putting such pressure on the young man.

The difference is TALENT. Not selflessness, not mentality, not shot shyness, not supporting cast.

dopeJemi:
read what your coach has to say about the nonsense fabregas said


http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/24/antonio-conte-dismisses-cesc-fabregas-claim-that-eden-hazard-must-be-more-selfish-to-surpass-lionel-messi-6594436/

So you expect Conte to agree that his team's only real creative player needs to be more selfish?

dopeJemi:


quick question, minus youtube videos. who dribbles more between neymar and hazard?


another question, what else does hazard do except what we have stated here, are you trying to tell me that all of hazard's videos on YouTube were edited to make him look inferior? if there is something else hazard does, you would see it on YouTube too, hazard has fans there too

hazard dribbles more than neymar.. Skills showing is not dribbling

lordfalcao:
hazard dribbles more than neymar.. Skills showing is not dribbling

correct me if I am wrong, dribbling is getting past your marker with a bit of skill right?

Nihilist:


So you expect Conte to agree that his team's only real creative player needs to be more selfish?

That tells you the level of his reasoning. Thats why i didn't reply his last comment. Even in training sessions, coaches tell strikers closely to be more selfish not openly.

lordfalcao:
hazard dribbles more than neymar.. Skills showing is not dribbling

Just ignore him.

Nihilist:


So you expect Conte to agree that his team's only real creative player needs to be more selfish?

but he is telling the truth, no?

how selfish is messi?

dopeJemi:


correct me if I am wrong, dribbling is getting past your marker with a bit of skill right?

dribbling is when you make a run, taking out 3-4 men, that is what messi does with his left foot without doing step over, over heading e.t.c while skill showing is when you do step over, over heading, nutmegging just like neymar , queresma e.t.c

props to raumdueter for calling you airmark a fool, you really are a fool
yes offence
now die it and move past me like sane people walk past mad people

dopeJemi:


but he is telling the truth, no?

how selfish is messi?

if messi starts passing in front of goal, will he be on 46 goals this seasons?

lordfalcao:
dribbling is when you make a run, taking out 3-4 men, that is what messi does with his left foot without doing step over, over heading e.t.c while skill showing is when you do step over, over heading, nutmegging just like neymar , queresma e.t.c

kindly answer my question with a yes or no response, I am going somewhere

afrodoc2:


I followed from the beginning.
You just can't multiply number of shots by a factor.
If he takes more shots his accuracy will drop and he won't be as prolific. He does not have the talent level to score Messi and CR7 levels of goals just like the rest of be human world.
He is not as tall, powerful, dominant in the air and does not shoot from both sides as well as a prime Ronaldo.
Change of mentality or team or increase in volume of shots won't push Hazard to Messi or CR7 levels.
He does not have it in him and you guys should stop putting such pressure on the young man.

Actually, Hazard does have the talent. We've seen him do it time and again against some of the biggest teams in the game.

Accuracy is relative. Ronaldo's shot accuracy is lower than Lukaku's this season. The difference is the volume of shots Ororo takes. Hazard is usually very accurate with his shots. If he shot more, I am super confident that his goal tally will also jump exponentially.

For him to then reach Messi and Ororo levels, Hazard needs to play in similar team with similar team mates.

Suarez is not as good as Messi, but last season he had more goals AND assists than Messi. So don't tell me Hazard cannot reach Messi level of scoring.

Put him in the right team with the right teammates and see what happens. Just Neymar and Suarez average 40 assists per season between them for the last 3 seasons, and I haven't counted Iniesta Rakitic alba etc.

This season Pedro, Matic and Fabregas have 20 assists between them. Those are our 3 highest assisters o.

Forget story bros.

lordfalcao:
if messi starts passing in front of goal, will he be on 46 goals this seasons?

this is funny, so you have to be selfish to score 30 or more goals? is that what you are saying?

dopeJemi:


kindly answer my question with a yes or no response, I am going somewhere

I have answered your question, you should be thinking, how many special skills do messi have? But he is beating 5-6 men to score

dopeJemi:


this is funny, so you have to be selfish to score 30 or more goals? is that what you are saying?

for every chance that messi gets to score and pass, how many goals do you think he will have a season ?

dopeJemi:


but he is telling the truth, no?

how selfish is messi?

Go and check who takes the most shots at Barcelona.

Go and check who takes the most shots from outside the box at Barcelona.

Come back and report your findings

Nihilist:


Actually, Hazard does have the talent. We've seen him do it time and again against some of the biggest teams in the game.

Accuracy is relative. Ronaldo's shot accuracy is lower than Lukaku's this season. The difference is the volume of shots Ororo takes. Hazard is usually very accurate with his shots. If he shot more, I am super confident that his goal tally will also jump exponentially.

For him to then reach Messi and Ororo levels, Hazard needs to play in similar team with similar team mates.

Suarez is not as good as Messi, but last season he had more goals AND assists than Messi. So don't tell me Hazard cannot reach Messi level of scoring.

Put him in the right team with the right teammates and see what happens. Just Neymar and Suarez average 40 assists per season between them for the last 3 seasons, and I haven't counted Iniesta Rakitic alba etc.

This season Pedro, Matic and Fabregas have 20 assists between them. Those are our 3 highest assisters o.

Forget story bros.

Suarez is a central striker and when he was EPL he was better than Hazard so that does not help the Hazard argument.
The Lukaku case just buttresses my point that if u take more shots like Cronaldo your accuracy will drop.
I hope Hazard moves so you guys' doubt will be cleared.
He will score more goals yes, but prime Messi and Cronaldo levels ? No

Nihilist:


Go and check who takes the most shots at Barcelona.

Go and check who takes the most shots from outside the box at Barcelona.

Come back and report your findings

pogba isn't selfish but he has the most shots from outside the box at united

I hate messi as much as you do but you can't call messi selfish cause of those stats, messi is someone that creates more than he tries to score

afrodoc2:


Suarez is a central striker and when he was EPL he was better than Hazard so that does not help the Hazard argument.
The Lukaku case just buttresses my point that if u take more shots like Cronaldo your accuracy will drop.
I hope Hazard moves so you guys' doubt will be cleared.
He will score more goals yes, but prime Messian Cronaldo levels ? No

The point I'm trying to make is that Messi's numbers are not unachievable by anybody else.

Suarez bettered Messi and with Neymar continues to post similar numbers, and that goes to show that a very good player playing in a very good team will post good results.


Obviously Messi is in a different class, but if Hazard was playing in that same team the difference between Mesi and Hazard will not be anywhere near as stark...especially if he starts shooting more.

dopeJemi:
[s]props to raumdueter for calling you airmark a fool, you really are a fool

yes offence

now die it and move past me like sane people walk past mad people[/s]

I have no biz arguing soccer with a dullard like you. From relying on youtube videos to form an opinion to misinterpreting a coach's move to stall a possible crack in his team by fab's advice, it's obvious you hardly use your brain to think stuffs out.

dopeJemi:


pogba isn't selfish but he has the most shots from outside the box at united

I hate messi as much as you do but you can't call messi selfish cause of those stats, messi is someone that creates more than he tries to score

Relativity is key.

Messi isn't a selfish player, but he is way more selfish than Hazard. All we're saying is that Hazard should learn how Messi does it.

Physically and technically, there is little to no difference between the two.

lordfalcao:
for every chance that messi gets to score and pass, how many goals do you think he will have a season ?

maybe "selfish" is not the word to use, but I know messi isn't selfish

ronaldo? now that is selfish

airmark:


I have no biz arguing soccer with a dullard like you. From relying on youtube videos to form an opinion to misinterpreting a coach's move to stall a possible crack in his team by fab's advice, it's obvious you hardly use your brain to think stuffs out.

you will die faster of foolishness than of ignorance, don't get it twisted, you exhibit both traits, but it is obvious your foolishness has overwhelmed you

you are too slow to comprehend intelligent posts and too foolish to make one.

do what I asked you then we can start from there, for now, SCRAM

dopeJemi:


you will die faster of foolishness than of ignorance, don't get it twisted, you exhibit both traits, but it is obvious your foolishness has overwhelmed you

you are too slow to comprehend intelligent posts and too foolish to make one.

do what I asked you then we can start from there, for now, SCRAM

O ti dun werey. Even my 13 year old niece understands what conte did to counter fab's words. Use your brain next time.

SIRcumalot:

Hazard is just another clone of a superior player,Ribery.
nothing Hazard do wey never see before.
Nani isnt a failure Abeg.

Baba just tibe. Champions League is kuku coming and local champion go soon find him level. I don't know how many Balon D'or winners are in Atletico, Juve e.t.c

Nihilist:


Relativity is key.

Messi isn't a selfish player, but he is way more selfish than Hazard. All we're saying is that Hazard should learn how Messi does it.

Physically and technically, there is little to no difference between the two.

i agree with the first part, the thing is, hazard doesn't know when to shoot and when not to pass, Same thing sef

now the second part is the problem, but I will agree to disagree

These Hazardistas have no shame.


Hazard literally lost a PFA award to a player with 0 technical ability on the same night Messi delivered football's first 100/100 performance.


In fact,new profile picture.

Nihilist:


The point I'm trying to make is that Messi's numbers are not unachievable by anybody else.

Suarez bettered Messi and with Neymar continues to post similar numbers, and that goes to show that a very good player playing in a very good team will post good results.


Obviously Messi is in a different class, but if Hazard was playing in that same team the difference between Mesi and Hazard will not be anywhere near as stark...especially if he starts shooting more.

It won't be as stark because Hazard's numbers will improve but it will still be CLEAR and no one will confuse the two.
Of all the prolific players that will get near Messi it is not Hazard's name that should be mentioned.
Let him out score Dele Alli or Alexis Sanchez first before you compare him to his gods.

bykebyke:
These Hazardistas have no shame.


Hazard literally lost a PFA award to a player with 0 technical ability on the same night Messi delivered football's first 100/100 performance.


In fact,new profile picture.

Kante has decent technically ability for his position my friend. He's very good on the half-turn which you don't see in many midfielders these days.

Lol. Excuses! Excuses!

During Mourinho's time, they said Hazard wasn't scoring much bcoz of his defensive responsibilities and "Mou tantrums".

When Conte came, same people said Hazard will score more goals now that Conte has unshackled him from his defensive responsibilities and he has free reigns in attack.

Now the excuse is he isn't shooting enough....


What next??

Excuses! Excuses!

airmark:




O ti dun werey. Even my 13 year old niece understands what conte did to counter fab's words. Use your brain next time.

did conte tell a lie? yes or no please?

neymar scores 20 plus goals and still create chances, he has created the most chances in barca this season I think, with 42

like I said, hazard doesn't know when to shoot, it doesn't mean you have to be selfish to score goals, "selfish" is not the word to use