Today on CNN, there was this story from Saudi Arabia. A young woman was sentenced to 6months in jail with 200 lashes of the cane . She was raped sometime ago by 7 men. According to the judge, she set up herself for it by leaving her home without permission from a male relative . The sentence was also for talking to the press about it. Her lawyer was also stripped of his licence because he also spoke to the press about the case.
How barbaric can this people get? Only God can save the women in that country. It is really sad. As if she was not traumatized enough by the rape itself. If only the stupid judge could go through the same experience. Stupid idiot

i feel u. that sounds kind of babaric. jailed for being raped? i wonder what d girl will be going thru now

those people in dat country really be mugus to the highest order. Some might say we are not better than them but I really would argue that the country is just a very annoying place to hear about talkless of even visiting . Hopefully, when their oil dries out they would be courageous enough to vote/select someone in and stop sticking to their assumed 12th century traditions built for those times; yet the same people the laws were built around have everything modern. How ironic?

Unlike most Nairalanders, Im not big on bashing Islam but if there's one thing about that religion that NO Muslim should even bother defending, it's laws like this

i hate to sound biased towards other people's country, but those guys arre real animals ! ! !
one lady came to speak at ma school. she's the only femal memeber of the afghan parliament and she spoke about all them warlords out there . . . they are just straight up insane, they treat women like they were not meant to exist in the first place !
this is not the first case of such in thos arab countries, i also heard of a cast where sum girls where burnt to death,
why:
the building was on fire, and they tried to escape but because they had no hijab on, sum dude prevented them so they all burnt in the house !
its just dummy retarded, whoever kills in the name of Religion . . . .

I just saw this on CNN as well. this action is barbaric and inhumane. but lets not forget, this is the tradition and law.

What is the modern world like USA doing to condemn this act? we went after saddam because they said he has nuclear weapon and he treated people bad. Yet this useless administration is not saying a word about this act.

I heard the news last week on the BBC and just could not figure out what my reaction should be. This case is about the one we hear of but what about the many that we never hear of?? The Reason why we hear of this is cause she appealed and instead her  punishment was increased cause she did.

Islam and Islamic societies bore me now.Its completely depressing

Mamajama:

I just saw this on CNN as well. this action is barbaric and inhumane. but lets not forget, this is the tradition and law.

What is the modern world like USA doing to condemn this act? we went after saddam because they said he has nuclear weapon and he treated people bad. Yet this useless administration is not saying a word about this act.

And when the US intervenes you people will start mouthing off that the US is interfering in another country's legal process. Besides, not even the US has the power to overturn this sentence.
last year an Afghan man converted to Christianity from Islam and told the press about it. Afghan scholars and legislators went mad with rage, it's islamic law that anyone that converts from islam must die. The US managed to smuggle him out and gave him refuge in USa, but this cost them a whole lot of face in Afghanistan and distrust from the rural areas. Not one of you guys picked up on that story.

Next thing we know we'll start petitioning the US to release Uwazuruike for real.

Yes, this is completely barbaric.

But how come the US is very cozy with Saudi Arabia?
How come it doesn't speak out against these kinds of atrocities like this in Saudi Arabia?



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Mamajama:

I just saw this on CNN as well. this action is barbaric and inhumane. but lets not forget, this is the tradition and law.

What is the modern world like USA doing to condemn this act? we went after saddam because they said he has nuclear weapon and he treated people bad. Yet this useless administration is not saying a word about this act.

@Mamajama,

Your candor on all issues political is a sane voice of reason in a cacophony of mediocrity and bias.

Keep the flag flying!

@texazzpete
It's that catch 22 scenario. The US are damned if they do, and they are damned if they don't. It comes with the territory of being the world's only super power. However, being the world's only super power makes up for it n times, over any criticisms.

@RichyBlack
Stop being a one-trick pony! Before i even clicked on this topic, as soon as i saw your name i just knew you were going to bring up the US, definitely in a negative light.

This judgement tallies with their religion. it's not some corrupt or obscure law being invoked, it's Sharia in its pure form that's at play here. And you know it. If the US (or any other country) starts calling Islamic courts agents of atrocity, you can imagine the amount of furore that would be generated.
Asking the Us to infer that there's something wrong with Islamic value is plain silly. of course the US isn't going to interfere. all they can do is appeal for clemency. anything else is of no matter.
it's like asking the African Union (or UN) to try and intervene when the Saudis behead caught drug traffickers.

The Bible says you need to remove the beam from your eye before you tackle the speck in someone else eyes.  Extra-judicial killings are rampant in Nigeria. people are burnt to death by mobs, police shoot and kill innocent motorists. Have you ever called for the US to intervene?

texazzpete:

@RichyBlack
Stop being a one-trick pony! Before i even clicked on this topic, as soon as i saw your name i just knew you were going to bring up the US, definitely in a negative light.

This judgement tallies with their religion. it's not some corrupt or obscure law being invoked, it's Sharia in its pure form that's at play here. And you know it. If the US (or any other country) starts calling Islamic courts agents of atrocity, you can imagine the amount of furore that would be generated.
Asking the Us to infer that there's something wrong with Islamic value is plain silly. of course the US isn't going to interfere. all they can do is appeal for clemency. anything else is of no matter.
it's like asking the African Union (or UN) to try and intervene when the Saudis behead caught drug traffickers.

The Bible says you need to remove the beam from your eye before you tackle the speck in someone else eyes. Extra-judicial killings are rampant in Nigeria. people are burnt to death by mobs, police shoot and kill innocent motorists. Have you ever called for the US to intervene?

@texazzpete,

You, being the half-trick pony you are, tell me how come they deemed it fit to interfere in Iraq?

One would think that a busy-body nation like the US that loves solving the world's problem will condemn atrocities like these?

Please don't blame this on Islam. There are many Islamic nations that will NEVER tolerate this.

The US invaded Iraq because they painted the picture that Saddam was stockpiling weapons of Mass destruction, trading with terrorists and preparing for an imminent attack on US assets.
That turned out to be false, but it was a handy excuse anyway.
Saddam and his sons had been killing hundreds of Iraqis for years. Do you think the US would have been able to sell the idea that they were going in to punish Uday and Qusay hussein to even their people?


This is not a 'world's problem'. it is justice as far a Saudi Arabia is concerned. An opinion poll will find that a vast majority of Saudis will be happy with this judgement. they've lived under Sharia all their lives, after all.

RichyBlacK:


Please don't blame this on Islam. There are many Islamic nations that will NEVER tolerate this.

It may have skipped your mind in your haste to get in a feeble dig at me, but Saudi Arabia just isn't *any* islamic country, it's the foremost Islamic country, the bastion of Islam and the Holy land to muslims all over the world. As a Christian, this seems barbaric to me, but to Muslims it is Justice. it would amount to disregard and disrespect of Islam for the US government directly to interfere.

This point is all too easy to see. Why must your hatred of all things american blind you to reason?

texazzpete:

The US invaded Iraq because they painted the picture that Saddam was stockpiling weapons of Mass destruction, trading with terrorists and preparing for an imminent attack on US assets.
That turned out to be false, but it was a handy excuse anyway.
Saddam and his sons had been killing hundreds of Iraqis for years. Do you think the US would have been able to sell the idea that they were going in to punish Uday and Qusay hussein to even their people?

True, we are on the same page - America LIED against Saddam Hussein.

This is not a 'world's problem'. it is justice as far a Saudi Arabia is concerned. An opinion poll will find that a vast majority of Saudis will be happy with this judgement. they've lived under Sharia all their lives, after all.

I disagree, well, unless the Saudi government organize and conduct the polls.

It may have skipped your mind in your haste to get in a feeble dig at me, but Saudi Arabia just isn't *any* islamic country, it's the foremost Islamic country, the bastion of Islam and the Holy land to muslims all over the world. As a Christian, this seems barbaric to me, but to Muslims it is Justice. it would amount to disregard and disrespect of Islam for the US government directly to interfere.

This is where I firmly disagree with you. There are many Muslims in Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, and even Saudi Arabia that will disagree with you also. Saudi Arabia, being ruled by the corrupt House of Saud, maintains an extreme (sometimes perverted) view of Sharia Law as a means of maintaining its tyrannical hold on its people. This extreme view of the Sharia stems from the teachings of Wahhabism. 15 of the 19 hijackers in the 9/11 plot were Saudis and all were believed to have been schooled in the philosophy of Wahhabism. This shows that this extreme view of Islam, entrenched by the House of Saud, is deleterious to the US.

Tyrants should not be excused, just because they cloak their evil machinations with the shroud of religion.

This point is all too easy to see. Why must your hatred of all things american blind you to reason?

I do not hate all things American. I love America, but detests its government, especially the current one - the worst America has ever had.

mamajama,
you are a very big idiot. hopw many countries are in the world? tell me in which aspect of this life that you have praised america? if you had time to listen to the news, u would have heard that american has already sent envoy to the country. what is the gaurantee that you are not going to turn back here to ask usa why they are going to saudi arabia. usa was up against the judgement of a sharia court in nigeria during obj regime that sentenced a woman to death via stoning for getting pregnant without marriage.
in iran two teenagers were hanged for practicing homosexuality and usa condemed the gov yet fools like you were asking what the matter was with usa in iran. last month, a nigerian studying in saudi arabia was sentenced to six months in prison for helping a sick old woman who was not related to him.
very soon, u will be up here to blame usa for your low reasoning ability.

the girl in question has been a muslim all her life and as such shld know the dos and donts so going to unrelated males and talking to press shld not come in.
she shld be able to life for the religion and doctrines she love and believe in.
why are the others not complaining now? they will only complain when it is their turns. if she was not a muslim, she will not receive the same treatment so it is normal to give such verdict owing to the fact that she has been living on such laws.

chidichris:

the girl in question has been a muslim all her life and as such shld know the dos and donts so going to unrelated males and talking to press shld not come in.
she shld be able to life for the religion and doctrines she love and believe in.
why are the others not complaining now? they will only complain when it is their turns. if she was not a muslim, she will not receive the same treatment so it is normal to give such verdict owing to the fact that she has been living on such laws.

So because she's been a muslim all her life, she's supposed to have inner powers telling her that she's gonna be raped? What the hell are you babbling?
Do they really think a hijab is gonna stop a female from being molested and who even cares if she went out without a male escort, are they saying that their land is so barbaric that a woman cant walk the streets without bodyguards and should EXPECT rape? That's kinda ridiculous dont you think?

belloti:

[b]The very fact that it became a news item should atleast give some insight into the peculiarity of the adjudication. We don't see that kind of prosecution around and surely its a legal exception.

Not sure who you think you are fooling by making it seem like such events dont happen. This is not the first time nor will it be the last that you hear that in such countries, the rape victim is also punished. I've been hearing about such for years, supposedly rape is still viewed as "having sex" which is completely idiotic.

Mamajama:

I just saw this on CNN as well. this action is barbaric and inhumane. but lets not forget, this is the tradition and law.

What is the modern world like USA doing to condemn this act? we went after saddam because they said he has nuclear weapon and he treated people bad. Yet this useless administration is not saying a word about this act.

Why do you expect the ones you call useless to be the ones to save the world?? We went after saddam and look what happened. Why then call on them now to do something about this when you already deemed them useless?? Why is the USA supposed to be police of the world when you want to but when a mistake is made but Saddam is reached, you are quick to slash at the same??

Are you spineless that instead of addressing the Saudi dude who heads the country where this actually took place, you decide to attack the USA in this? Something happens in Saudi Arabia and you are already blaming America for it ? Are you another one of them bitter ranters I need to avoid or something ?? What the heck is this?? What do you want the USA to do that they have not already done ?? The USA has been condemning this for so long, but people like you still throw it back in their face that they are being hypocritical cause they use torture on prisoners and now the USA wants to go silent and you stilll raise hell?? Na wa ooo!!!!


The story is about some gals in [size=20pt]Saudi ARABIA[/size], see,[size=20pt]NOT USA[/size],   [size=20pt]but Saudi ARABIA[/size],  that was gang raped and then punished for opening her mouth. Why not attack the Saudi Legal System that actually committed the act?? Why insult the USA whom, I am assuming you do not support when it comes to them being the POLICE OF THE WORLD.

childchris. I wonder what zoo your mama stole you from with that kind of reasoning? what kind of spell was cast on you at birth?

back to the topic @texazzpete USA is very influential in the world, we all know that. This kind of barbaric act should be condemn and denounce just like senator OBAMA and senator Clinton are standing up for justice.
If this was your sister or your mother. will you have the same opinion?

All we are asking for for this administration to make the right call. the king can over turn the judgement if they are under pressure from the USA. comeone be realistic.

Some airheads here are forgetting the issue at stake.
Who in their right minds would hear of a country that has the "holy land" punishing a girl that was gang raped and not call them animals.
When people say the  Islamic  sharia is barbaric and anal,they are called Islam bashers.

There we go,Islam at it's best
it's only a matter of time and the glorious sharia will reveal it's next victim.
I'm even glad they are are not talking of tying her to the stake and stoning her to death while the hurlers chant allahu akhbar.

Islam is evil,I said it once,I'll say it a zillion times

Mamajama:

childchris. I wonder what zoo your mama stole you from with that kind of reasoning? what kind of spell was cast on you at birth?

back to the topic @texazzpete USA is very influential in the world, we all know that. This kind of barbaric act should be condemn and denounce just like senator OBAMA and senator Clinton are standing up for justice.
If this was your sister or your mother. will you have the same opinion?

All we are asking for for this administration to make the right call. the king can over turn the judgement if they are under pressure from the USA. comeone be realistic.

Why make this another VAIN rant against the USA and forgetting the main issue at hand. Saudi Arabia has ALWAYS been this way, they did not just make it up for this girl's case. It has been this way for a long time. Why blame America for this?? Are you also going to blame Darfur on America?? Was Clinton's own husband able to stop the many cases of rape punishments that happened during his own administration, in Saudi Arabia?? Why make this about America?? Jeeezzzz!!!!


Have we become a society that is controlled by only that which is in the news one day or the next. There have been issues like this happening all over the world for decades. Have you not noticed how we have become the media's pawn?? One day we get posts about evil from darfur, people start to hail insults at america for not doing anything about it. The next minute the same people do not want america around, another minute, america is to be insulted for the rape victims in Saudi Arabia and maybe tommorow, the situation in Bhurma. What have we achieved so far?? The Situation in darfur is still bad, the situation in bhurma is still bad, when this one dies down, the girl may still get the 200 lashes or the cane and 6 months prison sentence she was supposed to get under the Saudi Law. What has the USA to do with all this Should the USA go into Saudi Arabia to force em to change their laws cause they say so?? Now, if that happened, tommorow, I know many folks in here would call them imperialists and call for a jihad or something.

I read about that on Friday. Whats stupid is that she was originally sentenced to 90 but b/c her lawyer said that it was wrong to flogg a rape victim they worsened it. Even the man she went to break up with will get lashed. It's so stupid, like rape is not bad enough. Also it's standard that any girl raped will be punished. As if people go around begging to be raped.

Kobojunkie:

Why make this another VAIN rant against the USA and forgetting the main issue at hand. Saudi Arabia has ALWAYS been this way, they did not just make it up for this girl's case. It has been this way for a long time. Why blame America for this?? Are you also going to blame Darfur on America?? Was Clinton's own husband able to stop the many cases of rape punishments that happened during his own administration, in Saudi Arabia?? Why make this about America?? Jeeezzzz!!!!

The statement in bold exposes you as just another Republican. Wasn't Clinton an American president?

Have we become a society that is controlled by only that which is in the news one day or the next. There have been issues like this happening all over the world for decades. Have you not noticed how we have become the media's pawn?? One day we get posts about evil from darfur, people start to hail insults at america for not doing anything about it. The next minute the same people do not want america around, another minute, america is to be insulted for the rape victims in Saudi Arabia and maybe tommorow, the situation in Bhurma. What have we achieved so far?? The Situation in darfur is still bad, the situation in bhurma is still bad, when this one dies down, the girl may still get the 200 lashes or the cane and 6 months prison sentence she was supposed to get under the Saudi Law. What has the USA to do with all this Should the USA go into Saudi Arabia to force em to change their laws cause they say so?? Now, if that happened, tommorow, I know many folks in here would call them imperialists and call for a jihad or something.

@Kobojunkie,
Why are you always defending the US? Are you a paid apologist for US foreign policy? Why do you constantly fail to see the link between the US and major political issues around the globe?

As long as America continues to have its shitty foreign policy, it will continue to be blamed for many of the problems in the globe.

nwando:

Some airheads here are forgetting the issue at stake.
Who in their right minds would hear of a country that has the "holy land" punishing a girl that was gang raped and not call them animals.
When people say the Islamic sharia is barbaric and anal,they are called Islam bashers.

There we go,Islam at it's best
it's only a matter of time and the glorious sharia will reveal it's next victim.
I'm even glad they are are not talking of tying her to the stake and stoning her to death while the hurlers chant allahu akhbar.

Islam is evil,I said it once,I'll say it a zillion times

It's unbelievable and depressing. Very depressing.

Nwando, we no see ya brake like again o, even your paddy Laudate don go AWOL. . .

RichyBlacK:

The statement in bold exposes you as just another Republican. Wasn't Clinton an American president?

@Kobojunkie,
Why are you always defending the US? Are you a paid apologist for US foreign policy? Why do you constantly fail to see the link between the US and major political issues around the globe?

As long as America continues to have its shitty foreign policy, it will continue to be blamed for many of the problems in the globe.

Well,  once again you go off trying to make me what I am not. Do you really need to tag me so you can mentally handle me as a person?? Does everything have to be labelled some way for you to feel good?? If you actually read what I was replying to you would see that Hillary Clinton, whose Husband was also in good terms with the Saudi's did not stop these issues during his own eight years, why then does she accuse the next of not being able to step up, even when she knows her own was unable to do anything about it. It is called simple REASONING ,  try it sometimes,  and Like I told you before, if I be Republican, lndependent, democrat or non-voter,  it is no business of yours and so I see no reason why that would come up in here at all. YOu already made false accusations about me in the past, do you ever QUIT

If you haven't noticed yet, this post is not about america and all things that actually affect us as a people. 99.9%, of the topics in Nairaland have nothing to do with America or what america ACTUALLY does. Even this particular one. I don't defend America but I am quick to point out how trying to link everything to America is childish and stupid on all levels, that behaviour is a classic sign of serious issues deep in the life of persons who continually play the blame game. Kind of like the woman who nags and blames every single thing on her mother inlaw even when the woman long been dead.

Name one of those FOREIGN POLICIES that affects your life as a Nigeria @RichyBlack

And Tell us reason why that particular FOREIGN POLICY AFFECTS YOUR DAILY LIFE MORE THAN THE MANY bad Policies Made  by the Government in the Country you live in @Richy Black

Educate us please

It is barbaric to try and incacerate a girl who already suffered the humility and trauma of rape.
This is part of the inhuman treatment which Islam meets out to its people. THe doctrine of Sharia was a man-made ste of rules and laws, designed to subjugate woman, suppress, oppress and enslave the ordinary men. It is a doctrine un like the cast system in India, which was designed to keep the darker skinned people, termed the untouchables!

The fact is Saudi Arabia (the foremost Islamic Nation) is a country ruled by a select group of people (extended family of King Faad) His family hold all positions of power and will go all lenghts to protect the statu quo!. They rule by intimidation and use the powers of coersion to suppress their citizens. This is why they have achaic laws to rule over the people.

Bush (American president) has a special relationship with the rulers of saudi Arabia, which is basaed purely on greed, oil and money. It has nothing to do with the American people (who will not condone barbarism by anyone).
The reason terrorism seems to be synonymous with Islam, is the way they are treated in their own country.
Rapes and homosexuality are very commonplace and prevalent among muslims.
It very common among the Nigerian moslems in the North also. The major reason is that sexual expression and practise is suppressed and seen as a dirty thing. Women are regarded as chartel to be owned, bargained and traded at the whims of men, especially the more powerful among them.
This is why you will notice that only the people of lesser means end up on the receiving end of arbaric and unfair rules and laws.

We as a people should condemn and reject was is basically unfair and against the priciples of human rights and dignity!

Like all legal systems around the world, we have imperfections
some more pernicious, egregious and . . .(I-man help me out abeg ) than others.

As for me sha, the woman brought it on herself.

She revealed too much skin

doyin13:

Like all legal systems around the world, we have imperfections
some more pernicious, egregious and . . .(I-man help me out abeg ) than others.

As for me sha, the woman brought it on herself.

She revealed too much skin

When